NEED ADVICE: Should I sell my stock for PPC/PPV Advertsing money?

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(I'm reposting this from another topic because I meant to post it here and accidentally posted it in the wrong place)

Ok, so this may be a first on this forum, but I'm generally in a dilemma here and the question might be kind of random a bit.

Anyways, I purchased some stock roughly a year ago for around $400 and the net value is approaching roughly $800 (roughly 100% gain) as of the tail end of last week.

I'm really fascinated by a lot of this PPV and CPC advertising stuff and I'm considering selling my stock to begin really focusing on all of this. Any advertsing I've done up until this point has generally been subsidized by me purchasing bing/google adwords discount cards and so I've tended to take shortcuts/not really focus as much as I should on what I was doing. I have some decent HTML/CSS experience and can make landing pages pretty easily and so I was wondering what you guys think.

Any of you out there could really coach me on some of this stuff? I've posted a couple other threads the last couple weeks, but I really want to make sure what I'm doing is going to work (at least partially).

I know that most people say the best way to learn is to do, and that's why I'm strongly considering selling my stock. Point noted, when I first got into investing I lost $200 but now I've gained over $400, so maybe that's what's due for me to learn how to be successful with IM advertising.

I don't know what do you guys think?
Could anyone specifically coach me on some of this?
Depending on how it works I might be willing to pay you guys for some help...
(so long as I make a bit of money and don't lose my shirt)

I've dabbled with BingAds, Peerfly, LeadImpact (haven't used it yet though), Adwords a bit, and a few others...done a few CPA campaigns and Clickbank campaigns but haven't found much success with CPA although I did make a little bit with Clickbank last summer. Let me know what you all think...
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  • Profile picture of the author svetod
    If I understand you correctly you will have $800 to invest in PPC once you sell your stock? $800 is a good amount to start with ppc and make it work. In fact I started with less money, it took me more time, but I still made it work.
    Would be happy to help if you have any questions!
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    • Profile picture of the author sonixkid3000
      My personal advice, check how the company is doing. Yes stocks can be tricky but if it doubled in a year, odds are the company is doing fairly well. Nobody here can really tell you whether to buy or sell I mean, that's just playing the stock market.

      With that said, $800 is a good budget to get started with IM. Keep in mind that most of the people on here who will "coach" you will gladly charge you tons of money. There's a select few on here who truly try to help people and won't charge you money. I would take Greedy's advice on this, I believe it's 10%. She says don't spend more than 10% of your total budget on a coach. Which means you're lookin at $80 for a coach.... just use this forum. It is the single most helpful tool you will find when starting your internet marketing career... and it's free!

      Lastly, before you jump into anything you need to do some work on your part. Decide what type of advertising you'd like to start with. Affiliate network(s) you'd like to work with. Write it all down on a piece of paper. Step by step. I know it sounds weird but I do this before I do any type of new IM. It really does help. So write down a step by step plan. How they'll get to your offer. Whether or not you'll use a landing page, etc. Next, write down every problem that you could run into or challenge you may face. Keyword competition, low CTR, etc. Obviously you won't know every problem but try to account for things before they happen. That way it doesn't set you back too far.

      Once you have a step by step plan on exactly what you want to do we'd be able to help you a little better. I'm just getting started in PPV, but if you have any questions regarding PPC or list building I'm just a message away!
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    • Profile picture of the author defeasible
      Originally Posted by svetod View Post

      If I understand you correctly you will have $800 to invest in PPC once you sell your stock? $800 is a good amount to start with ppc and make it work. In fact I started with less money, it took me more time, but I still made it work.
      Would be happy to help if you have any questions!
      Hey man! Thanks so much for the comment. And yeah that's the plan at least (or what I'm entertaining to do).

      If I sell the stock I will have roughly $800 and some change to put into PPC/PPV stuff.
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      • Profile picture of the author defeasible
        Seriously guys, thank you so much for the support. You have no idea how much it means to know you have people just a message away ready to help. And yeah, I'll try to get a plan together later today. And I appreciate the info about coaching and what not.

        One other question: Do any of you use prosper202 for tracking? I currently have a shared hosting plan that I use to host my websites, but I'm wondering if I can run prosper on that too or would I need a completely separate hosting account?

        Likewise, I am thinking of upgrading to a VPS pretty soon, so now might be the time.
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        • Profile picture of the author sonixkid3000
          Originally Posted by defeasible View Post

          Seriously guys, thank you so much for the support. You have no idea how much it means to know you have people just a message away ready to help. And yeah, I'll try to get a plan together later today. And I appreciate the info about coaching and what not.

          One other question: Do any of you use prosper202 for tracking? I currently have a shared hosting plan that I use to host my websites, but I'm wondering if I can run prosper on that too or would I need a completely separate hosting account?

          Likewise, I am thinking of upgrading to a VPS pretty soon, so now might be the time.
          I use prosper202 with a VPS from beyond hosting. There's 50% for 6 month coupons on this forum which is perfect about $25/month. You can run it with shared hosting but it's not optimal.

          Regardless, you MUST use tracking software - Glad you know that right off the bat.
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          • Profile picture of the author defeasible
            Originally Posted by sonixkid3000 View Post

            I use prosper202 with a VPS from beyond hosting. There's 50% for 6 month coupons on this forum which is perfect about $25/month. You can run it with shared hosting but it's not optimal.

            Regardless, you MUST use tracking software - Glad you know that right off the bat.
            Hmm, I'll maybe check them out but I'm thinking of possibly just sticking with Bluehost since it would be easier to upgrade. Could I host my sites AND run prosper on the same VPS account? I know it may not be optimal, but I'm curious if it's possible...until I've made a bit of money from this I want to keep expenses down as much as possible.
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            • Profile picture of the author sonixkid3000
              Originally Posted by defeasible View Post

              Hmm, I'll maybe check them out but I'm thinking of possibly just sticking with Bluehost since it would be easier to upgrade. Could I host my sites AND run prosper on the same VPS account? I know it may not be optimal, but I'm curious if it's possible...until I've made a bit of money from this I want to keep expenses down as much as possible.
              Pretty sure bluehost is one of the generic EIG brands now. I'd stay away from them. I can understand wanting to keep expenses down but with a VPS you really just need to bite the bullet and do it. It's more so for PPV though - as you might need to be able to support 2,000 visitors in an hour. As far as running prosper on shared hosting, you're going to run into a lot of problems, but yes you can do it.

              Just a heads up though - I thought VPS's were account-based too when I started, but they're actually website based. So I pay $25 / month for my VPS, but that's just one website.

              Most people host a VPS but name it something generic so that they really only need one site.

              the other thing is that a lot of those EIG brands charge a fee for installing prosper202, and they have minimum requirements before you're able to do it.

              Ex - HostGator - You can't install prosper202 *with their help* unless you're paying for the $70/month VPS and then they charge you $15 to have it installed.

              Beyond hosting - You click 2 buttons from your control panel, select the root domain for the tracking software, and click install. Picture tutorials and all, no min requirements, and no fee lol.

              With that said, if you're concerned about costs you might take a loook at some unmanaged VPS'. It might be a little more work on your part but it would definitely cut your costs down quite a bit. Obviously I personally like Beyond hosting, as I purchased my VPS and immediately paid in advance for 4 months of hosting, but you might be interested in LiquidWeb or some other unmanaged ones.
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              • Profile picture of the author defeasible
                I guess I may end up looking at an alternative web hosting solution for prosper, and just keep my current sites on shared hosting. So I assume you can host your landing pages also with a beyond hosting account?
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                • Profile picture of the author sonixkid3000
                  Originally Posted by defeasible View Post

                  I guess I may end up looking at an alternative web hosting solution for prosper, and just keep my current sites on shared hosting. So I assume you can host your landing pages also with a beyond hosting account?
                  Of course! There's ways to link your HTML/CSS/PHP/etc etc etc software to your VPS or website using FTP or a plethora of other means but I just upload everything using the file manager on my cpanel. And yeah don't get me wrong shared hosting is great but if you're going to run prosper you're going to want a VPS.

                  Also, when/if you do get setup with prosper and need any help whatsoever, just shoot me a message. It can be tough getting campaigns set up in there for one of your first few times. They have tutorials for some things but not all. Anyways, I'm happy to help in any way I can!
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                  • Profile picture of the author defeasible
                    So the stock is officially sold..I guess only time will tell whether or not it was the right decision. In the end though, I guess you live and learn.

                    I'll be getting a plan together though in the next day or so
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                    • Profile picture of the author sonixkid3000
                      Good luck! $800 is a decent budget for starting out. Be sure to account for a learning curve for a new type of advertising, and a new network. Don't be discouraged if you're not profitable by the end of your budget though. IM is trial and error and can take a very long time to get the hang of. With that said, once you do figure it out, you'll know how to do it again and again in more campaigns.

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        • Profile picture of the author dotdash
          I'm in a pretty similar situation to you except I'm a trader.

          My take is that the potential ROI and timescale of scaling a small amount of capital into a large amount is much more lucrative with an IM business. Trading/investing is a way to grow money but it's more methodical and steady (assuming you're doing it sensibly).

          If you want that cash to work harder for you and be more actively involved in the process then use it to start your CPA/IM business.

          To learn I recommend Greed reports, also a war room membership here has lots of good stuff as well.

          Prosper 202 won't work on shared hosting, it might buy you'll be much better off with a VPS. You can get a cloud instance from Amazon and there's a guy on fiverr who'll set it all up for $5-15 - just search fiverr for prosper 202. Cloud VPS from Amazon or Microsoft Azure won't cost much to run compared to what a hosting company will charge you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    If you are going to go for it, go for it, don't dabble and don't quit easily.

    Asking a CPA Forum if you should try CPA, and the answer you'll get is defiantly yes.

    In terms of wondering if a coach can help you, you should be asking yourself personal, if you can be dedicated enough to get the job done... Never rely on anyone else.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by defeasible View Post

    (I'm reposting this from another topic because I meant to post it here and accidentally posted it in the wrong place)

    Ok, so this may be a first on this forum, but I'm generally in a dilemma here and the question might be kind of random a bit.

    Anyways, I purchased some stock roughly a year ago for around $400 and the net value is approaching roughly $800 (roughly 100% gain) as of the tail end of last week.

    I'm really fascinated by a lot of this PPV and CPC advertising stuff and I'm considering selling my stock to begin really focusing on all of this. Any advertsing I've done up until this point has generally been subsidized by me purchasing bing/google adwords discount cards and so I've tended to take shortcuts/not really focus as much as I should on what I was doing. I have some decent HTML/CSS experience and can make landing pages pretty easily and so I was wondering what you guys think.

    Any of you out there could really coach me on some of this stuff? I've posted a couple other threads the last couple weeks, but I really want to make sure what I'm doing is going to work (at least partially).

    I know that most people say the best way to learn is to do, and that's why I'm strongly considering selling my stock. Point noted, when I first got into investing I lost $200 but now I've gained over $400, so maybe that's what's due for me to learn how to be successful with IM advertising.

    I don't know what do you guys think?
    Could anyone specifically coach me on some of this?
    Depending on how it works I might be willing to pay you guys for some help...
    (so long as I make a bit of money and don't lose my shirt)

    I've dabbled with BingAds, Peerfly, LeadImpact (haven't used it yet though), Adwords a bit, and a few others...done a few CPA campaigns and Clickbank campaigns but haven't found much success with CPA although I did make a little bit with Clickbank last summer. Let me know what you all think...

    Tough question.
    Is the stock still going up? If you have the potential to still make money with the stock, I'd leave it in and save up other money. (I do both stocks and affiliate marketing)

    Also think of it like this. For affiliate marketing, only invest what you're willing to lose. This way if whatever happens you are prepared for the worst.
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    • Profile picture of the author defeasible
      Originally Posted by ChrisBa View Post

      Tough question.
      Is the stock still going up? If you have the potential to still make money with the stock, I'd leave it in and save up other money. (I do both stocks and affiliate marketing)

      Also think of it like this. For affiliate marketing, only invest what you're willing to lose. This way if whatever happens you are prepared for the worst.
      Yeah, while I didn't necessarily see the stock going down (but I guess you never know) I still decided to sell it to get jumpstarted with all of this. I'm not completely averse to losing money either, cause I'm sure I'll learn a lot doing this nonetheless. I think that IM might be more difficult (and require more day to day skill) than investing, but you also have the potential to recognize returns a lot quicker (assuming you figure out what works). I am a beginner and so I will have a huge learning curve, but just like anything I hope that I will steadily improve

      Originally Posted by mediamarket View Post

      If your getting into PPC.
      Some advice is to do a very thorough plan of attack.
      prosper for tracking.
      vps for hosting.
      have a killer landing page or capture page.
      good luck.
      And yeah I just upgraded my hosting account to VPS and I installed prosper202 on my server. I'm just still trying to figure out exactly how to track stuff. I'm watching a bunch of vidoes, but they all aren't exactly straightforward. I'm learning things little by little, and I appreciate all of your guys' help and input
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  • Profile picture of the author mediamarket
    If your getting into PPC.
    Some advice is to do a very thorough plan of attack.
    prosper for tracking.
    vps for hosting.
    have a killer landing page or capture page.
    good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author krishparmar
    Best practice is to run 2-4 campaign simultaneously in different landing page and see which converts well. its cost little more but gives you opportunity to see high converting landing page and ad. sorry about my english .
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