PPC/CPM networks that allow direct to affiliate or email squeeze page?

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10 years ago

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celente

10 years ago

I wouldnt totally disregard BING, we make a killing with CPA and CPS / clickbank on there.

Its a gold mine, test, test, test and then UPSCALE when you find the winners.

BING and 7Search are good, if you know what you are doing. That is for sure.

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IDoTheLegWork 10 years ago

Originally Posted by celente

I wouldnt totally disregard BING, we make a killing with CPA and CPS / clickbank on there.

Do you send ads directly to offers/sales pages?
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- celente 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by IDoTheLegWork
  
  Do you send ads directly to offers/sales pages?
  
  always always send traffic to some sort or lander or squeeze page.
  
  But then again, you can test. We are not really MARKETERS are we, we are TESTERS of things, and we do more things that work and less of what doesnt.
  
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rayboking4

10 years ago

I'm new too, I just spent $30 (from $50 coupon Code) .. in a Gaming Offer.

And I got 150 Click / 95 Unique Clicks / 5 Leads

$0.70 /Lead = TOTAL : $3.50 . xD

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svetod

10 years ago

I really don't get it why people refuse to build a simple landing page? It just doesn't make any sense. If you have your own website you can use all traffic sources and you are much more flexible to experiment until you find the best converting layout.

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IDoTheLegWork

10 years ago

Originally Posted by celente

always always send traffic to some sort or lander or squeeze page.

Originally Posted by svetod

I really don't get it why people refuse to build a simple landing page? It just doesn't make any sense. If you have your own website you can use all traffic sources and you are much more flexible to experiment until you find the best converting layout.

You have both missed the point of this post. I am trying
to find PPC/CPM networks that allow ads to be directed
to a squeeze page or directly to an affiliate offer. That's
what I want to do. Google doesn't, Bing is vague, and I
would like to get confirmation that Facebook does.

BTW, nothing is "always, always".

And please no more PM's about alternate pages for
Googlebot vs visitors. That's a great way to get your
account suspended.

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svetod

10 years ago

Originally Posted by IDoTheLegWork

You have both missed the point of this post. I am trying
to find PPC/CPM networks that allow ads to be directed
to a squeeze page or directly to an affiliate offer. That's
what I want to do. Google doesn't, Bing is vague, and I
would like to get confirmation that Facebook does.

BTW, nothing is "always, always".

And please no more PM's about alternate pages for
Googlebot vs visitors. That's a great way to get your
account suspended.

The reason I suggest to build a landing page is because it give you more control. That way you can control your own sales funnel and can tweak your website in order to improve your conversion rate. There might be a little more work involved in the beginning, but it should pay off in the future. I don't use Facebook ads, so I can't confirm that. Maybe someone more experience in this field will be able to help.

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celente

10 years ago

Originally Posted by IDoTheLegWork

You have both missed the point of this post. I am trying
to find PPC/CPM networks that allow ads to be directed
to a squeeze page or directly to an affiliate offer. That's
what I want to do. Google doesn't, Bing is vague, and I
would like to get confirmation that Facebook does.

BTW, nothing is "always, always".

And please no more PM's about alternate pages for
Googlebot vs visitors. That's a great way to get your
account suspended.

first of all.....No one has missed your point. You are getting help from 2 senior warriors actually making good money online.

Secondly, and most importantly direct linking is going to make a few sales here and there, but if you do understand the first thing about list building is it can make you alot of money very fast. Alot faster than direct linking, so I would test that, but Rather our business is better spend and invested on doing OPTIN Squeeze pages.

Lastly, BING and FACEBOOK are not that strict. They will let you direct link (which is silly anyway) and we make lots of money on BING and FACEBOOK each month. To flip BING off like that, tells me alot. BING when done properly can be tested for cheap, and lists built for cheap.

I was not the one who PM'ed or spammed you about Googlebots via PM. Maybe you are confused somehow.

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IDoTheLegWork

10 years ago

Originally Posted by celente

first of all.....No one has missed your point. You are getting help from 2 senior warriors actually making good money online.

I asked specifically for networks that allowed direct affiliate linking.
They responded with you should build a list. They assumed I didn't
know the power of building a list. I do. So they did miss the point
in not answering the question posed.

Originally Posted by celente

Lastly, BING and FACEBOOK are not that strict. They will let you direct link (which is silly anyway) and we make lots of money on BING and FACEBOOK each month. To flip BING off like that, tells me alot. BING when done properly can be tested for cheap, and lists built for cheap.

Flip Bing off? How'd I do that. I just said the policy was vague and
wanted some feedback from people who used it.

Your feedback that you have successfully used Bing and Facebook
for direct linking is helpful.

Your "silly" comment is what is silly.

Originally Posted by celente

I was not the one who PM'ed or spammed you about Googlebots via PM. Maybe you are confused somehow.

That comment was not directed at anyone in this thread. I just
wanted to let those who read it and felt inclined to PM me to not
because I wasn't interested and didn't want my PM box clogged.

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celente

10 years ago

Originally Posted by IDoTheLegWork

I asked specifically for networks that allowed direct affiliate linking.
They responded with you should build a list. They assumed I didn't
know the power of building a list. I do. So they did miss the point
in not answering the question posed.

Flip Bing off? How'd I do that. I just said the policy was vague and
wanted some feedback from people who used it.

Your feedback that you have successfully used Bing and Facebook
for direct linking is helpful.

Your "silly" comment is what is silly.

That comment was not directed at anyone in this thread. I just
wanted to let those who read it and felt inclined to PM me to not
because I wasn't interested and didn't want my PM box clogged.

Look your inexperienced I get that, from your comments, and you are getting awesome help in here, you would probably normally have to pay for, so there is no need for rudeness. Warriors do really like that, so I am giving you a BIG heads up!!

I mean.... seriously the advice I have seen given to you above, can make alot of money. So stop whining and start taking action. ok?.

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IDoTheLegWork 10 years ago

Originally Posted by celente

Look your inexperienced I get that, from your comments,

Your assumption is wrong and insulting, but...

I've realized where there might be some confusion. In the
title when I mentioned a squeeze page I meant my own. I
can see how the wording could be misconstrued. I would
never send my traffic to someone else's squeeze page.

I'm new to the PPC game but have more than a few years
under my belt with online marketing.

The bottom line is this was a policy/TOS question not a
strategy question. Any advice offered as to strategy was
off topic from the get go.
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Saintsfan40

10 years ago

Originally Posted by svetod

I really don't get it why people refuse to build a simple landing page? It just doesn't make any sense. If you have your own website you can use all traffic sources and you are much more flexible to experiment until you find the best converting layout.

You seem to always have the answers don't you?

Maybe it doesn't make sense to YOU. Maybe the OP has a different plan you know? I noticed you hijack a lot of threads on this forum trying to recruit newbies and struggling marketers to your sig bragging and telling everyone of them they're doing it "wrong" and you're doing it "right".

If you were such an "Adwords Expert" you would not spend all this time trying to get people into your *coaching gig. and leaving remarks such as: "Any Questions Let Me Know".

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svetod

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Saintsfan40

You seem to always have the answers don't you?

Maybe it doesn't make sense to YOU. Maybe the OP has a different plan you know? I noticed you hijack a lot of threads on this forum trying to recruit newbies and struggling marketers to your sig bragging and telling everyone of them they're doing it "wrong" and you're doing it "right".

If you were such an "Adwords Expert" you would not spend all this time trying to get people into your *coaching gig. and leaving remarks such as: "Any Questions Let Me Know".

Saintsfan40 I am not sure what you are talking about. I gave my opinion on this topic and speak from my personal experience. You are not committed to take any of my advices. There is no right or wrong, people discuss different topics and that's why it's called a forum.

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Greedy

10 years ago

I'm new too, I just spent $30 (from $50 coupon Code) .. in a Gaming Offer.

And I got 150 Click / 95 Unique Clicks / 5 Leads

$0.70 /Lead = TOTAL : $3.50 . xD

I'm using Direct Link

it's for you like an information , and for Gurus here , to tell me if I'm good or not

Thank You !

Have been testing between a few different offers? If you happen to find an offer that converts better you may have a successful campaign on your hands.

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AffGuides

10 years ago

Bing allows direct linking to affiliate offers, but it just sounds like the offer page had an exit pop (hence the interfering message). Ask your affiliate network or offer owner for a page without the exit pop if its doable.

Most traffic sources don't like that.

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celente

10 years ago

Originally Posted by AffGuides

Bing allows direct linking to affiliate offers, but it just sounds like the offer page had an exit pop (hence the interfering message). Ask your affiliate network or offer owner for a page without the exit pop if its doable.

Most traffic sources don't like that.

Yes most affiliates do not check the sites they promote regularly. They find out one day, they vendor will add a squeeze page, and they are just building traffic for the vendor and not making sales.

So I agree with you. You do not want to be building someone else list, you want to be building your own list, and sending them to the affiliates actual sales page, without any squeeze page or optins. CLICKS, and EPC are important, and more clicks to these pages without distractions is only gunna make you more money in the end.

We have even given away 100% of sales PROFITS on one of our products before, because it builds a buyers list for us, all on autopilot. A buyers list is probably one of the most powerful thing you will have in your possesion, and so we do not mind giving away 100% of the profits then. it might sound funny to some, but I would rather have a person on my list, than get half a sale. [just think about it as a marketer, or from a marketers perspective, in terms of what you should be doing each day 'building lists"]

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mikesdebp

10 years ago

The reason Bing and others are vague is that every offer is different and they don't want to chase away advertisers up front!. I've done direct linking with Bing no problem.

If you are sending traffic to a squeeze page there shouldn't be any issue at all. I send as much traffic as I want to a free offer squeeze page using Google Adwords.

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IDoTheLegWork

10 years ago

Originally Posted by mikesdebp

If you are sending traffic to a squeeze page there shouldn't be any issue at all. I send as much traffic as I want to a free offer squeeze page using Google Adwords.

Now I find this interesting because I remember reading Google
TOS and it specifically stated you could not send traffic to a
page with the sole purpose of collecting email addresses. I'll
have to take a second look.

As for the "build a list" chorus, just stop. Nothing is absolute.

Sometimes I don't want to enter a niche, I just want a quick
campaign with a good ROI.

Sometimes I want to test and see if the squeeze page stops
more customers from buying than its worth.

In both cases I need my ads to go directly to the vendor's
sales page.

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IDoTheLegWork

10 years ago

For those interested in the original intent of this thread...

After poking around the net a little more, including some
new posts on this forum, it appears that 7Search.com
allows direct linking to a squeeze page or affiliate offer.

So to sum up It looks like:
Bing
Facebook
7Search

allow both squeeze pages and affiliate links (although
there is some indication that you need to use a redirect).

I am still poking around the Google TOSs to see if I am
mistaken about them not allowing ads to go directly to a
squeeze page (based on the comment by mikesdebp).

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IDoTheLegWork

10 years ago

I finally found the TOS section on Google, it's under "information
harvesting":

"Google AdWords doesn't allow websites whose primary purpose
is to collect personal information."

https://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/answer/190438

My read on this is as long as there is navigation to the rest of
your website a squeeze page is acceptable. Any comments
on that?

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jayjackson

10 years ago

If we ask for help and guidance ...we would get that and more....Try to take and learn something from everyone who is replying without exception . At the end make your own decision based on the knowledge shared . You will learn a lot and will have to test a lot too.

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