Insightful question from Elon Musk

2 years ago

The technology can really make the difference in the marketing field as well the AI is one of the best innovation as well

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max5ty

2 years ago

It seems like historically every time new technology replaced jobs, it also created different jobs.

Just 50 years ago we didn't have home computers and now they're so common most don't think twice about how it was before everyone had one. Computers were supposedly going to put a lot of people out of work...which they may have put some out of work, but also created a lot of new types of jobs.

Also, as we get closer to the 2024 election I suppose we'll be hearing a lot of stories about how AI is shaping politics.

I'm not really impressed right now with AI when it comes to copywriting or even article writing. I think it has a long way to go yet to be a serious contender. Yes, some are excited they can write articles and such, but the articles aren't that great and lack a personal touch.

AI hasn't been able to replace creativity yet. I tried to prompt it to create a new idea for a product and could only get it to rehash what has already been done.

All the articles and all the sales pieces still are only as good as the product you're selling. If your product isn't newsworthy with an original plot or original something it will be limited in sales.

I do think AI is impressive with some of the things it's doing in the medical field. Some of the breakthroughs are life-changing.

Occasionally I'll see a comment on the forum that was written by AI. It immediately tells me the poster really has no clue what they're talking about. I think it goes for AI-written articles also.

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GordonJ

2 years ago

Originally Posted by max5ty

It seems like historically every time new technology replaced jobs, it also created different jobs.

Just 50 years ago we didn't have home computers and now they're so common most don't think twice about how it was before everyone had one. Computers were supposedly going to put a lot of people out of work...which they may have put some out of work, but also created a lot of new types of jobs

Thanks max5ty, you may not know this, but I am known as the Seer of Cuyahoga Falls, although some like to add sucker to my moniker.

I have a rear view mirror crystal ball, and although the future is foggy, sometimes hard to see, however, I do get crystal clear reception when viewing the past.

The TELEGRAPH was a big tech game changer.
Until that darn Bell guy. Side note of history, Western Union had the chance to pick up the telephone license for 100k dollars...their wise board of investors, couldn't see it.

By 1975, there were almost half a million TELEPHONE operators, one ringy dingy, two ringy dingy types.

Today, if you know one, you are a rare person.

So where will the worker of today go when AI takes his job (they won't take women's jobs, even AI won't work for half of what a man makes)...

In less than 15 years, millions will have been replaced with AI, and many of today's workers will be tomorrow's ________ worker.

Wonder what it will be? My crystal ball sez _______ !!

Anyone else?

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Elvlin

2 years ago

Originally Posted by max5ty

It seems like historically every time new technology replaced jobs, it also created different jobs.

Just 50 years ago we didn't have home computers and now they're so common most don't think twice about how it was before everyone had one. Computers were supposedly going to put a lot of people out of work...which they may have put some out of work, but also created a lot of new types of jobs.

Also, as we get closer to the 2024 election I suppose we'll be hearing a lot of stories about how AI is shaping politics.

I'm not really impressed right now with AI when it comes to copywriting or even article writing. I think it has a long way to go yet to be a serious contender. Yes, some are excited they can write articles and such, but the articles aren't that great and lack a personal touch.

AI hasn't been able to replace creativity yet. I tried to prompt it to create a new idea for a product and could only get it to rehash what has already been done.

All the articles and all the sales pieces still are only as good as the product you're selling. If your product isn't newsworthy with an original plot or original something it will be limited in sales.

I do think AI is impressive with some of the things it's doing in the medical field. Some of the breakthroughs are life-changing.

Occasionally I'll see a comment on the forum that was written by AI. It immediately tells me the poster really has no clue what they're talking about. I think it goes for AI-written articles also.

agree, but unfortunetly no matter when, everytime technology like this show up, most people focus on what they lost, not how to utlize this opportunity and become early bird on taking the new job

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DABK

2 years ago

Why do you have to get meaning from your job?
If AI frees 8 hours a day for you, can't you fill them with painting? Making wooden tables from scratch, for your friends? To sell? Or volunteer at a battered women shelter?

Originally Posted by Kay King

Talking about AI, Musk asked an interesting question:

'How do you find meaning in life if A.I. can do your job better?'

Which leads to 'how can you take pride in your work if A.I. does it for you?'

How fulfilling is a life when all the answers are just the push of a button away?

Theoretically, A.I. has the potential to DO the jobs FOR us - but then where will our income come from? I've read estimates that within a short period of time A.I. will eliminated up to 50% of jobs. How will those people earn a living?

Will using A.I. to do the jobs cut the retail/service prices way down....or push corporate profits way up? How will the economy be affected? Just thinking about the potential is fascinating to me. However, if I were currently in a job that could be replaced by A.I., I'd be nervous.

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Frank Donovan

2 years ago

Originally Posted by max5ty

Occasionally I'll see a comment on the forum that was written by AI. It immediately tells me the poster really has no clue what they're talking about. I think it goes for AI-written articles also.

That's because the vast majority never make it - or get removed pretty quickly. But the technology is progressing at such a pace, I doubt anyone will be able to identify an AI-generated post before much longer.

All of us of a certain age have lived through many changes - some fundamental - in our working and leisure activities. This feels like an almost existential shift, not least because of the speed of its evolution. It's going to take a lot of people and industries by surprise.

Originally Posted by GordonJ

So where will the worker of today go when AI takes his job (they won't take women's jobs, even AI won't work for half of what a man makes)...

In less than 15 years, millions will have been replaced with AI, and many of today's workers will be tomorrow's ________ worker.

Wonder what it will be? My crystal ball sez _______ !!

Anyone else?

If lost jobs remove all meaning, I foresee a booming market for counselors and therapists.

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Princess Balestra 2 years ago

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

If lost jobs remove all meaning, I foresee a booming market for counselors and therapists.

Call now for help an' advice on any ishoos you may be experiencin' regardin'

* feelings of hopelessness
* a profound sense the world is against ya
* weird pseudo-origami visions evry time you around SNAKES (for example, snake = potential noose)
* persistin' merely as a vacuous hole

My door is evah open, an' my drinks cabinet is YOURS for less than prolly even your regulah health insurance.

LIE BACK ON MY SPESHL COUCH AN' PARTAKE OF MY THERAPYOOTICAL GLORIES!

*note to self: run this through AI an' await the suddenly hapless like no kinda sponge*

Originally Posted by Kay King

....blue collar??? trades??? any jobs that require opposable thumbs?

Mebbe AI is the evolyooshnry journey from opposable thumb to supposable dumb.
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Kay King

2 years ago

In less than 15 years, millions will have been replaced with AI, and many of today's workers will be tomorrow's ________ worker.

....blue collar??? trades??? any jobs that require opposable thumbs?

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max5ty 2 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

....blue collar??? trades??? any jobs that require opposable thumbs?

Saw somewhere where someone said this:

"Humans doing the hard jobs on minimum wage while the robots write poetry and paint is not the future I wanted"
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Jamell

2 years ago

Entrepreneurs and employees alike can't afford to get complacent . We have to keep evolving and if we do that we'll be fine .

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socialentry

2 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Talking about AI, Musk asked an interesting question:

'How do you find meaning in life if A.I. can do your job better?'

Which leads to 'how can you take pride in your work if A.I. does it for you?'

How fulfilling is a life when all the answers are just the push of a button away?

Theoretically, A.I. has the potential to DO the jobs FOR us - but then where will our income come from? I've read estimates that within a short period of time A.I. will eliminated up to 50% of jobs. How will those people earn a living?

Will using A.I. to do the jobs cut the retail/service prices way down....or push corporate profits way up? How will the economy be affected? Just thinking about the potential is fascinating to me. However, if I were currently in a job that could be replaced by A.I., I'd be nervous.

kay how do you feel waking up everyday, knowing that you never will reach 120 km/h no matter while your car can reach it in a matter of seconds.

how does your dog feel. I wonder how come he's not jumping in the nearest well to end his days.

how can you possibly live with yourself and find meaning in your life?

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Kay King

2 years ago

So - you DON'T have opposable thumbs? sad.

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socialentry 2 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

So - you DON'T have opposable thumbs? sad.

Yep. I'm a paraplegic and I have 4th degrees burns all over my body. I'm typing this with my right ear.

Tsk tsk how cruel of you.
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Claude Whitacre

2 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Talking about AI, Musk asked an interesting question:

'How do you find meaning in life if A.I. can do your job better?'

That's just the beginning of a question. If your whole job can be done better by AI, then you get a different job. More likely (I think) is "How can you find meaning in life if AI helps you do a better job and faster?"

Originally Posted by Kay King

Which leads to 'how can you take pride in your work if A.I. does it for you?'

If AI does the whole thing for you...why are you being paid at all? It's a shift in work, for a small segment of the work force.

When Google made encyclopedias obsolete...what happened to all the encyclopedia salespeople? the people who worked for the encyclopedia publishers? They just did something else. Just like always, throughout history.

Originally Posted by Kay King

How fulfilling is a life when all the answers are just the push of a button away?

We have that now with Google. AI just looks it up for us and assembles it in a readable package.

I know you know all this. I just love the sound of my own voice.

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tagiscom

2 years ago

Interesting subject and l read recently that Freelancer, (you know the ones that own this forum) have said that their revenue has increased by about 20% due to AI jobs, or ask the ChatGPT, the right questions and it can turn text commands into works of art, etc.

The article in the paper said that people could earn an extra 10k a year just letting CT do all of the hard work then passing it on to their customer base.

So there is money there, but not as much as a real job though.

People have also tried it on the stock market with mixed results, but the top investment corporations on the planet with millions invested in stock analysis software cannot manage to get past 15% consistently right picks.

It is interesting but it is more collate and pick and choose, l would rather see half a dozen humanoid robots in a maze with machine guns and left to their own devices with CT and see what happens.

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max5ty

2 years ago

I've said this before, and I believe it, even more every day...

AI which so many were and are excited about is really putting an end to more and more online marketers for a ton of reasons. The majority of online marketers fail to see they are really rooting for something that is spelling their end.

People are not stupid. Just because you use AI to write an article doesn't mean the public is buying it.

So many online marketers that weren't doing good before AI suddenly thought AI was going to take their stuff to a whole new level...it isn't and won't.

I've done posts in the copywriting section before explaining what someone should focus on when writing an article or sales piece and yet I still don't think most pay them any attention.

Tone of voice.
Emotional connection...

and on and on...and yet I guarantee you that over 99% of people don't stop for 1 second and consider either of these and others I mentioned when they start writing something.

I've tried to correctly use tone of voice and emotions with AI. It still needed to be tweaked a whole lot to make it even close to what I wanted. Yet most that have no idea what they're doing would have thought AI did a wonderful job.

There really is a reason some make a ton of money and others are always frustrated by their results.

There are no shortcuts. AI can help you if you use it as a tool to help you...but it cannot take you to where you want to go by itself.

Too many are putting too much hope in the AI we now have (I'm referring to the AI for writing)

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DABK

2 years ago

First job's already been created: AI content check software creator.

Originally Posted by max5ty

I've said this before, and I believe it, even more every day...

AI which so many were and are excited about is really putting an end to more and more online marketers for a ton of reasons. The majority of online marketers fail to see they are really rooting for something that is spelling their end.

People are not stupid. Just because you use AI to write an article doesn't mean the public is buying it.

So many online marketers that weren't doing good before AI suddenly thought AI was going to take their stuff to a whole new level...it isn't and won't.

I've done posts in the copywriting section before explaining what someone should focus on when writing an article or sales piece and yet I still don't think most pay them any attention.

Tone of voice.
Emotional connection...

and on and on...and yet I guarantee you that over 99% of people don't stop for 1 second and consider either of these and others I mentioned when they start writing something.

I've tried to correctly use tone of voice and emotions with AI. It still needed to be tweaked a whole lot to make it even close to what I wanted. Yet most that have no idea what they're doing would have thought AI did a wonderful job.

There really is a reason some make a ton of money and others are always frustrated by their results.

There are no shortcuts. AI can help you if you use it as a tool to help you...but it cannot take you to where you want to go by itself.

Too many are putting too much hope in the AI we now have (I'm referring to the AI for writing)

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Princess Balestra 2 years ago

Originally Posted by max5ty

Too many are putting too much hope in the AI we now have (I'm referring to the AI for writing)

Nuthin' beats the purse of joosily hooman lips to suck people your way.

An' I should know because I gaht sevrl pairs.

Originally Posted by DABK

First job's already been created: AI content check software creator.

So what kinda smartsy automation is it anyways if'n you gotta check ovah your shouldah alla the time?

AI: so automatic, frickin' micromanagahs will LOVE IT!

(Actschlly, if'n you runnin' combat drone scenarios based excloosively on AI, word is lookin' ovah your shouldah naht a bad strategy for avoidin virtyool death, if'n anywan seen that story.)

My view?

Expect micromangahs this Christmas.

"All the excitement of the nativity,
implanted in your terrapin's shell as a microchip."
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Elvlin

2 years ago

This AI is, In Real Life, a tool that requires a person to operate and guide what it does. seem most people think this is AI from a sci-fi movie with sentience that can do everything by itself.