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General Data Protection Regulation ("GDPR")?

by Jay Pasquarille
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I have a very high concern about this compliances issue that the European Union union is doing right now in the marketplace about the General Data Protection Regulation Act ("GDPR")

I have a few questions about this issue about the overreach within the online community
there are large businesses going out of business because of this huge threat
that is coming May 25 is when it will come out. Here are the questions
1 . Will it affect the affiliate marketers?
2 . What will it do to warrior forum?
3 and how do we all comply with this heavy regulation?
These are the questions I have, and also a lot of concerns about this new regulation that is coming out .
Can anybody put my mind at ease concerning this new regulation? Thank you, from Jay
#data #gdpr #general #protection #regulation
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  • Profile picture of the author Ged3
    Hi Jay,


    I think it is mainly concerned with how companies store people's data.


    So unless you have a list you should be fine.


    If you have a list you will need to make sure guidelines are adhered to.


    I think the auto responder companies cover people that have lists.


    Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    It will do nothing and nothing will change.

    Unless you're a fortune 500, nobody has the time or money to pursue the MILLIONS of sites collecting data that won't comply.

    The whole thing is bullshit.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ged3
      Originally Posted by jazbo View Post

      It will do nothing and nothing will change.

      Unless you're a fortune 500, nobody has the time or money to pursue the MILLIONS of sites collecting data that won't comply.

      The whole thing is bullshit.

      I wish this was true, but unfortunately the means exists to pursue even small website owners, so it is always wise to make sure that we abide by the guidelines that are set out.


      Best Regards
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Why does OP even care? He's in New Mexico (United States).

    You people worry about stuff that doesn't even matter.
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    • Profile picture of the author IGotMine
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Why does OP even care? He's in New Mexico (United States).

      You people worry about stuff that doesn't even matter.
      Increased Territorial Scope (extra-territorial applicability)
      Arguably the biggest change to the regulatory landscape of data privacy comes with the extended jurisdiction of the GDPR, as it applies to all companies processing the personal data of data subjects residing in the Union, regardless of the company's location.
      https://www.eugdpr.org/key-changes.html
      It should get interesting.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ged3
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Why does OP even care? He's in New Mexico (United States).

      You people worry about stuff that doesn't even matter.

      That's true, but if he has a site and visitors from EU countries visit it then compliance will be needed - I know this seems unfair but its worth pointing out.


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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Ged3 View Post

        That's true, but if he has a site and visitors from EU countries visit it then compliance will be needed - I know this seems unfair but its worth pointing out.


        Ged

        No.

        If EU traffic visits my US hosted sites they do so on US law, not EU law.

        EU doesn't govern the world.
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  • Profile picture of the author IGotMine
    Can anybody put my mind at ease concerning this new regulation?
    Probably not. You can try this: https://www.eugdpr.org/eugdpr.org.html

    The whole thing is bullshit.
    Whistling past the graveyard...always a good idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Pasquarille
    Thanks for all your answers
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    What they're doing is using this as a way to skim money off Facebook, Google, etc... Those big businesses have roots in EU. They're specifically targeting EU traffic.

    EU has them by the balls because those businesses have server farms and offices located in their jurisdiction. EU owns them.

    Modern day mafia, lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author bionictortoise
    Several responses on this thread are incorrect speculation.

    It does include small businesses, not just large ones.

    It does include every business that has EU members or subscribers.

    No they might not go after the little guy for millions. We don't know how it's going to pan out.

    Only once we see the consequencies of GDPR in place, will we know if it's effective or not, both in keeping people's data private, and keeping the vast majority of consumers happy.

    My guess is the rest of the world will eventually follow, and there will be a version of GDPR in the US and most places. But marketers will evolve and move on.

    We all survived the many Google slaps. This is just another slap from a different source.

    This page from Optin Monster gives a pretty reasonable solution:
    https://optinmonster.com/what-you-ne...-optinmonster/

    Yes, there might be fewer opt-ins as a result, but more transparency for the visitor might result in higher calibre subscribers.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by bionictortoise View Post

      Several responses on this thread are incorrect speculation.

      It does include small businesses, not just large ones.

      It does include every business that has EU members or subscribers.

      No they might not go after the little guy for millions. We don't know how it's going to pan out.

      Only once we see the consequencies of GDPR in place, will we know if it's effective or not, both in keeping people's data private, and keeping the vast majority of consumers happy.

      My guess is the rest of the world will eventually follow, and there will be a version of GDPR in the US and most places. But marketers will evolve and move on.


      No offense but you've guessed wrong because the rest of the world doesn't care.
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  • Profile picture of the author squeebo
    I'm sorry, but last I checked, US citizens in the US aren't governed by EU laws, no matter how many uninformed articles parrot these phrases saying otherwise. That's not how this country works.

    If I shipped physical products to Europe, customs could seize it. If I had an office there, they could raid it. If I were there, they could arrest me. If I had a bank account there, they could freeze it. If I have no assets there, they can't do jack to me, and they wouldn't even try. It doesn't matter how many EU people are on my mailing list, or how many of them I sell digital products or services to. Granted, they could put me on a list and take steps to block their EU subjects from doing business with me, but they can't come after me here any more than they can come after me for insulting the Queen. Only the US can do that, and only if it's US law. And it isn't.
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    • Profile picture of the author bionictortoise
      Originally Posted by squeebo View Post

      I'm sorry, but last I checked, US citizens in the US aren't governed by EU laws, no matter how many uninformed articles parrot these phrases saying otherwise. That's not how this country works.
      But we're not talking about US citizens, we're talking about the consent and privacy of EU citizens.
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    • Profile picture of the author NetMan
      Originally Posted by squeebo View Post

      I'm sorry, but last I checked, US citizens in the US aren't governed by EU laws, no matter how many uninformed articles parrot these phrases saying otherwise. That's not how this country works.

      If I shipped physical products to Europe, customs could seize it. If I had an office there, they could raid it. If I were there, they could arrest me. If I had a bank account there, they could freeze it. If I have no assets there, they can't do jack to me, and they wouldn't even try. It doesn't matter how many EU people are on my mailing list, or how many of them I sell digital products or services to. Granted, they could put me on a list and take steps to block their EU subjects from doing business with me, but they can't come after me here any more than they can come after me for insulting the Queen. Only the US can do that, and only if it's US law. And it isn't.
      Bingo! Another smart one who understands REAL commercial law and jurisdiction. Indeed, it's not because they SAY so (which is to pretend to have jurisdiction over you, the non-EU citizen, and say in a way to let you believe it) that it is necessarily true. Unless, you CONSENT and comply then it is possible to give EU jurisdiction over you if you wish...

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  • Profile picture of the author nRehman
    This is complex; if most of the European dont speak and understand English then why GDPR been implementing on English sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    I think a better solution is to block European IPs since their Gov doesn't meet TOS of sites hosted outside of Europe.

    There's a few Wordpress plugins that block specific country IPs.
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  • Profile picture of the author oppyeaunome
    Yeah, this has been causing me a lot of stress lately and it's even harder to find some information on the internet about what you can do to be compliant.

    Basically what I've gathered is that if you are collecting data from people in the EU you have to explicitly let them know what you're doing with that data. Also, they have to want to receive information from you.

    The next thing is that it has to be easy for them to opt out of your list if they don't want to receive any more emails from you.

    I see a lot of people in here talking about it won't affect small people, but the truth is I believe that if they want to find you they will. You don't want to be the one they make an example out of.

    Trying my best to learn more about this new law.
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    The Ultimate GDPR Guide for Marketers and Businesses

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  • Profile picture of the author IGotMine
    How will it be enforced in countries outside the EU?

    Politics, of course:

    To complement Giter's excellent answer, procedures to collect internationally already exist through the typical judicial channels. In a nutshell, the judge issuing the fine in the EU would forward the case to a judge in the company's country, and the latter would then consider whether to enforce the collection or not.

    Fined companies could fight the collection for all sorts of reasons, just like individuals would fight an extradition request. And you can bet that some will.

    Whether they'll actually win is anyone's guess until there's case law specific to the issue. But generally speaking, EU judgements have a non-zero chance of getting enforced in a lot of countries. It's not like the EU is some theocracy asking foreign companies to comply with Sharia law or a dictatorship issuing death sentences left right and center. EU members are in good standing with most of the world and their justice systems are mostly well respected.

    Reciprocity also kicks in: if a country's judges don't enforce EU judgements, you can bet EU judges won't be too keen on enforcing theirs; and vice versa. https://politics.stackexchange.com/q...sical-presence
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by IGotMine View Post

      How will it be enforced in countries outside the EU?

      Politics, of course:
      Brexit all them mofos.
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  • Profile picture of the author nRehman
    New wordpress update supports "GDPR" features you are required to complete the compliance issue; is there an explaining video or auto system that helps us get GDPR compliance right?

    I dont collect, store data of any one including EU to assess and communicate with the client in anyway.... Surprisingly; it is wordpress that holds efficiency at all; wordpress is an actual reason
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  • Profile picture of the author bionictortoise
    I just found out that Opt-in pages are supposed to have SSL certificates too under GDPR law.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    As of this moment, the EU has no power to garnish from US bank accounts. They have no power to enforce fines in the US, with US banks. So no worries. If in the future this power is granted by US regulators working with the EU, it will be international news and we can comply knowing fines will be enforced in the US.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi people,

    Yes this ist the new EU law called "DSVGO" ( I come from europe-germany) ist is a shame what they do, try to lock all small people........I hope not.

    I read hours in google but I be frustrated, know about as before- nothing, get headache....

    So I hope this will not have negative affect of european affiliates who will doing business in the USA?

    So EU people can not using anymore Facebook for business and post images and photos on it- or most US website will block them out?

    I do not know it, but perhaps anybody here has a answer on that?

    marco
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    What a sleeping forum.....
    You are Sleeping ?

    marco
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