Mentor Wanted Please?

You say that you've been there, done that, got the t-shirt, etc. but still no business.

What do you think the problem is?

You say you need traffic so what have you done the last year to drive traffic?

Mark

Many thanks for your reply. I simply haven't tried to get traffic as I have yet to build a page for a freebie or giveaway. Probably answered my own question!
Problem is even if I did have type of capture page how do I get the traffic?
Are there WF members who could help me build a capture page?

With a domain and hosting.

A ten-year-old can do it.

I really don't understand the problem???

Here's the thing Gary. If I was your mentor and I told you to immediately:

1. Stop buying products until your first pages/site is done.
2. Stop looking at products until your first pages/site is done.
3. Figure out how to put the page up through your own forum research and get it up today.

Would you do it?

That's a legitimate question.

If you would, then go and do just that.

If you wouldn't, then you are going to keep getting the same results you've been getting.

It's decision time.

Mark

Search google for a free template.
Hire a freelancer to create one for you.
Use a service like lead pages, click funnels, etc...
Get a plugin for WordPress that will make it easier to create.
Autoresponder service may have a page builder.

However, do you know what you want to promote and use for a giveaway?

Go to you user name and highlite it. Switch to the classic view, than at the top of the thread subscribe to it. Subscribe is located on the left side next to the upvote button. If you don't how to get traffic visit the All in one traffic thread by PaulMyers. https://www.warriorforum.com/main-in...ffic-tips.html

Of course, most don't know, or are giving their sig, links a plug and still don't know, some do know, but anyway you get the picture.

But eventhough l have been online for 10 years and here for 8, so should be allowed a certain amount of gravity, but l will keep this serious.

My first site was a SiteSell one, which has a great totorial on SEO, keyword selection, monitizing, etc, which is free, but the site costs $30 or more a month depending on location.

They also have a pretty good private forum.

So if you are after training and like minded people, and can afford it, it might be a good place to start?

But if you want more flexability, (SS, isn't 100% user friendly, or has restrictions) then Hostgator or Bluehost are good options.

I was and am with Host,.., or almost have 10 sites with them, (including a blog).

Their is something to learn about the C panel, and getting the hang of the building platform they offer to create your site.

But it is cheap, ($10 a month for up to 10 sites) and you can create a squeeze page, etc from scratch, (more professional ones can be done, but that requires HTML grids, etc, not something a newbie will find easy).

Magic, hmmm, ok, l tried boardgames and puzzles, since l successfully did one some time ago, (tried pretty much everything, to make that cough up, and it made peanuts).

So the idea may be the reason?

But don't get me wrong, you could do some videos on Youtube, etc, but yeah, sounds like it is on similar tines to what l tried, so......

In all honestly, if you have little money, l would ditch the site idea, or at least learn about it, but put most of your focus into Fiverr, or other similar sites.

Fiverr has its own traffic, so that problem is gone, and should be a good platform to build your Magic business on.

And it is free, (well, apart from the $5 to start your account).

Good luck.

PS The Freelancing Mods here do moderate, and are paid to do so, apart from a myriad of other tasks; But there are also other mods that have been invited to moderate, on their own free time. And they are usually long standing members with track records!

I would say that a little less mentor and a bit more action is needed in this case. You have the writing experience.. you have the interest and expertise... so whats the hang up? Look for topics like " Best deck for Card tricks " and offer some affiliate offers to buy decks

Best trick decks
best premium card decks
best custom card decks
best coins for magic tricks
finger exercises for magicians
how to improve slight of hand

and I think you get the idea.... the amount of content is probably about endless.

Magic is obviously visual... videos to go along with the post content would be nice.. doubles the platform accessibility.. throw in insta and facebook, and your reach widens and widens.

At this point I have yet to mention an autosponder or a landing page. You have created a block, not only to the path to success, but the path to getting started.

Startwith building a base.. and from there you can add things like mailing lists and offers to a list.. but right now there is nothing stopping you from not writting and directly from thatcontent page offering product related to the article.

Gary,

I've loved magic since I was a teenager and did it professionally for several years doing birthday parties and library shows. It was great fun and I miss it.

One of the things I would advise is to decide who is your target market. It could be those who are new to magic and want to learn a few card tricks. In which case you'd focus on what an icebreaker it is at parties, or "Magic Tricks to Impress Women."

A big audience I see are those who love magic and have been doing it for years but have no idea how to make money doing it. You could write a report on 7 ways to make money doing your magic. Including walk arounds at restaurants and parties, children's shows, trade shows, or teaching magic classes.

Another idea might be -- How to Create a Birthday Party Show on Budget. You could even buy magic wholesale and put together a short show and sell it as a package.

I have friends who did birthday parties to help pay for their college. It was a lot more fun and paid better than McDonalds.

As others have already mentioned, when teaching or performing magic -- video is obviously the way to go.

The point being, even in the market of Magic there are profitable sub-niches.

Being a non-techie I understand how overwhelming this can all be. My advice is just take it one step at a time. YouTube may become your best friend. When things became too much of a time waster I hire someone to help me do the things I can't figure out.

Good luck!

Rose or Ramblin' Rose as I was known in my magic days

These "Im looking for a mentor" posts always amaze me. Sorry if I initially come across rude as that is not my intention.

Let me ask you a couple of questions.

If you want someone to mentor you, would like someone that is the real deal, actually in the trenches with an IM business making serious cash?

or

Would you want to some that has no clue what their doing but talks a good game and will most likely leave you worst off then when you started?

Ok the answer is obvious right, now you didn't mention how much you are willing to pay your mentor?

Actually come to think of it, did you expect someone who is successful in IM to down tools, put their business on hold, tell all other potential students willing to pay $1000's to be mentored that their schedule is full so they mentor you ?

I am sorry but it does not work that way, people that do extremely well in IM who have the ability to mentor you and make you successful already have many people banging down their down begging for their money to be taken.

That's the harsh reality of it, they can command big mentoring fees and very few if any will do it for free unless of some sort of divine intervention.

POOF. Here it is.

Your question is about a a sales/giveaway page, and you'll get your answer.

This would be the beginning. It is a way to get someone into your funnel, onto your list or behind the closed doors of your bigger offer. It is a LEAD generation system.

So the question is WHAT are you leading them to? We have no idea, and it appears you don't either.

Here is a scenario to at least get you thinking about the END, which you should have in place before the beginning.

MAGIC is a huge evergreen MARKET. If you want to make money, you need to niche it down, break it up and you've done a little in your post with REVIEWS, SELLING SECOND HAND AND AFFILIATE.

Which honestly confuses me. IF you have "PROFOUND knowledge" with affiliate marketing for magic, why aren't you using it, or applying it and making a killing in the affiliate marketplace? NOT a criticism, just a disconnect from what you say you know and what you say you are doing. Am I wrong?

But, lets continue. New tricks. It is a niche. Old tricks and USED or second hand which is also an area you claim knowledge of.

So...the sales/giveaway page.

A simple one page site, and it doesn't have to be html, and you don't have to go out and buy a hosting site either, not to get started. You don't need anything other than Word or a word processor like the free one; OPEN OFFICE.

You write out your deal. FREE REPORT on how to find good prior owned magic tricks.

You need a form, something to catch their email. You can get started with MailChimp with tons of tutorials on YouTube and at their web site, the FREE version will suffice to get you started.

Instead of html, you export your doc from Open Office as a pdf file, and you can put that up at your FREE Dropbox account. So far, not a dime spent, but education on the how to coming at you.

OK, the giveaway is a REPORT on buying or selling second hand magic tricks. s
Is this something you can create? It could be a simple HOTSHEET, a one page PDF with links to sources of buyers and sellers.

To get started, to learn how...you write the short sweet offer, GET YOUR FREE REPROT sign up here.

Someone signs up. What's next? Well you can do it a couple of ways, but use your free MailChimp auto responder to send them the report.

Normally, you want to have an offer in your freebie. What do you have for them? You want to step them up from a freebie to a buyer. Maybe a deck of cards as has been mentioned in another post. Maybe a sleight of hand trick. Or coin. SOMETHING, anything really to get them to buy from you. Normally it is a low cost item.

You now have a customer if they buy, and if not, you may have some PROSPECTS, those people who signed up for your free report. So that is sort of an overview of the FUNNEL and what happens after they sign up along with a little how to get started for free so you learn how to do it.

But that is the easy part. WHO sees your giveaway page? You can't give away anything if no one is around.

Which is why TRAFFIC, and more important TARGETED TRAFFIC should be your first concern. And before you can select the sources of the targeted traffic, those people most likely to be interested in buying and selling magic tricks, you need to clearly identify the places they go, where they hang out and if there is a way to get them to your giveaway.

See Gary, you're putting the cart before the horse.

Start with the area of expetise you are most familar with as regards PRODUCTS and the marketplace. If it is buying and selling magic tricks, then start there. By the way I worked in a magic store, SPELLBINDERS in Kent, OH, run by magician Paul Burdick. So I know and have first hand knowledge of buying and selling magic tricks.

YOU must identify your initial customer. When they came into the store, a lot of parents bringing in kids, and they want simple and easy get started stuff. When the pros came in, like Rose, those people who performed as Paul Burdick did, they were looking for more advanced, or in some cases more group entertaining.

You begin where you are at with what you have and zig zag back and forth until you get honed in on exactly where you want to go, and you don't have that yet.

So here's the deal for you Gary. Decide what you want to sell, what the giveaway is and what happens then, and if you can do that, if you can come up with even a general plan, I'll set aside a couple of hours a week to help guide you, fair enough? But it all depends on YOU doing, not me.

And I think you have some problems to overcome first, but let's see shall we?

GordonJ

Comments like that - which you seem to make frequently - don't make people want to advise you.

You tell people what NOT to tell you and that is hurting YOU.

You plan to use FrontPage....but sold a video here years ago about how to use Wordpress. Do you have a WP blog about magic? Why not?

You posted about building/selling 'mobile sites' in the past - and that makes it difficult to understand why you can't build a landing page.

Some people are rude - but others are trying to understand where the problem is so they CAN help you. You have some excellent suggestion above - more than enough to get started working in the 'magic' niche. A week from now or a month from now, will be interesting to see where you go with the advice provided.

Make a simple list of what you need to do - build a landing page - build a blog - join affiliate programs...whatever. Then tackle the list one by one.

Have confidence in your own abilities - what's the worst that can happen? Isn't that where you are now? Stop digging, start climbing.

That's the best offer you will get here - take it and run with it!

Gary,

Frankly, very few people know how to do EVERYTHING themselves. So, if there is a technical task you don't know how to do, the solution is simple... OUTSOURCE IT.

There are people in the Work For Hire section of this forum (or on Upwork) that will help you do almost anything -- often for a reasonable fee. (Just make sure to choose people with experience and excellent testimonials.)

John

If you don't have one, get a digital video camera. It doesn't have to be fancy. You can use your smart phone or check eBay. I just checked and found a number of Samsung cameras for under $50 that will work. Also, get an inexpensive tripod. In a pinch a baggie filled with flour will do.

Download and master the basics for the FREE video editing program ShotCut to edit your videos. ShotCut is FREE and there's plenty of FREE training videos for it on Youtube.
https://shotcut.org/

Get an autoresponder account with someone like Getresponse. They have landing page creators and will even host them for you. If you can type and click you can create a landing page.

Create videos for Youtube about what you know and love, magic. Make some public and some "unlisted". Encourage people to get access to your unlisted videos by sending them to your GetResponse landing page.

Set GetResponse to automatically email them the link(s) to your unlisted videos on Youtube.

For example, make a video doing a magic trick. In the video itself and in the video description, have a call to action for something like "click the link to discover easy step by step instructions how to do this trick". The link goes to your GetResponse landing page. They sign up and Getresponse automatically sends them the links to your unlisted video(s).

Taking this a step further, you can create courses on magic and post them on Udemy and Skillshare, using your Youtube videos and Getresponse autoresponder to build a list to help promote your magic video training course as well as other products and courses.

You won't get anywhere making one or two videos for Youtube. You'll need a bunch to get traction. Check out the most popular Youtube channels in your niche and see which of their videos are the most popular. Then ask yourself:

Which ones can I make quickly and easily?
Which videos can I make for free (or cheap)?

You will need to learn how to shoot and edit video, how to promote on Youtube (including keyword selection and creating thumbnails that get clicks), how to promote and use both Udemy and Skilllshare, etc.

Youtube, Udemy and Skillshare all have built-in traffic. Create videos about magic and focus on them.