strugling beginner marketer

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Hello,

I would like to get some tips from experienced marketers or people who were in similar position like me. I know it is not possible to get rich overnight I just want decide about my next steps.

Im a student and I finishing my study this year and then I will look for a job. However since I was a kid I have a dream about being my own boss and live independent life. I read a lot of successful stories from internet marketers who are experiencing financial freedom thanks to internet marketing and this motivated me even more.

But there is a problem. I dont have much money to spend and I´m not sure which kind of online job would be best for me? Ecommerce? Like shopify or Amazon or selling t-shirts on sites like gearbubble etc..?
Affiliate marketing, CPA??

I know one of the most important thing is build a list. I have tried a promote different offers but since I dont have a list or audience on social sites it is a very difficult. Currently Im promoting Yoonla with Bing Ads (I can afford it thanks the coupons but not for the long run) and even though I got clicks I have very low opt in rate, so I dont know what Im doing wrong. One person told me the keywords I use are good, but maybe it is in landing page? Seeing this results is frustrating because instead of making money I´m lossing money. I also need to pay for clickbank and autoresponder as well.

Building audience on social site takes a lot of time and there is no guarantee people will be interested in my offers, the same with youtube videos and paid traffic is expensive. I´m also a subscriber of a few marketers and they send me offers about different softwares and programs that can help people to make money and even though it is a good thing I feel overhelmed by all these informations I know jumping from one program to another is not a good thing.

That is not what I want, so that is the reason why Im asking you here. To make sure where to start and stick to it, master it. So i dont know maybe CPA marketing would be good to start? Do you know anybody who can help with it

Any suggestions will be appreciated.
#beginner #marketer #strugling
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  • Profile picture of the author Pratik Patel
    Hay Berry38,

    I can understand your situation, most of beginner used to in same situation at starting point.

    There are lots of ways to start & build your success online.

    Constant learning & implement right way with right mindset is the key for Online Success.

    There are big list but I would advise you some:
    1) Select something with suitable to your passion/interest
    2) Learn the things & take first step towards your success... (Base on my experience affiliate is best way to strat)
    3) Decide your goal and make plan with your budget (You have to have fuel enough to reach your destination)
    4) Don't rush behind FREE/CHEAP stuffs, Do stuff for RESULT
    5) You don't need BIG list at all
    6) Start own website, blog to provide value to your target market
    7) Learn new things & implement it step by step

    Look all onliner is learning constant to build better future, so always invest in self to learn it.

    Keep going & hit your target,

    Don't hesitate to contact further for any help/guidance,

    Cheers,

    Pratik Patel
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    • Profile picture of the author berry38
      Hi,

      thank you for your reply. May I ask you Do you think it is good for beginners to buy established automated affiliate website to start making some money?
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      • Profile picture of the author Oziboomer
        Originally Posted by berry38 View Post

        Hi,

        thank you for your reply. May I ask you Do you think it is good for beginners to buy established automated affiliate website to start making some money?
        Ask yourself. . . if it is automated and making money why would someone sell it?

        Back to your opening post.

        You say you were studying something and finishing this year and going to look for a job.

        What were you studying?

        Can you use the skills you've already learned to get a job where you expand on those skills?

        Do you have a passion for that area of study?

        If you have a passion can you look how to expand your passion both through employment (to learn more) and via something you can do online?

        A common route to success online is to become the guide who people find when they are seeking to do something they want to.

        Best regards,

        Ozi
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Spend the next 2 weeks:

    - reading posts from this forum
    - taking notes on these posts
    - studying these notes

    This gives you some marketing 411.

    Before that though, lock yourself in a room today, throw away the key, and ask yourself: what feels most fun to me? Your struggles and failures are FEAR, and FEAR arises when you do stuff like look outside for jobs and money, versus looking within for your fun-passion. Get the passion down, the fear dissolves,and you feel clearer on your journey.
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  • If you have no budget, then CPA marketing or affiliate marketing will be the best for you to start. There are also many free traffic methods, just that you need to spend more time to build them up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Try not to delve into too many opportunities to make money. You need to know the lifestyle that you want to live - along with the kind of business that will help you to reach that lifestyle. If you dont like talking on the phone, or waking up early in the morning, or dealing with customers and refunds.... then a successful affiliate marketing business is one option for you. The same is true about the ebook business, but it can be very profitable if you design the backend portion of your campaign correctly.
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  • Profile picture of the author DaveMartin
    First of all you absolutely need to allow yourself a certain amount of time for learning. Many newbie marketers spend years chasing their tail, when if they had of just dedicated 6 months to mastering a certain type of marketing they would have been a lot more successful.

    Some good advice has been provided, spend time reading the forum and taking notes. There are many golden nuggets to be found here and a lot of the posts are as good as any course out there.

    Pick one type of affiliate marketing and attempt to master it, realise it will take time. Not having money for paid traffic is not a bad thing as it is good to get experience with free traffic.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author jt120651
    First of all you need a Mentor who has proven success to teach you how successful online businesses are operated. Only then can you put a plan into action.

    You must be focused with your blinders on not to stray away from the path to success. Go after what actually works and get rid of the unbelievable promises and stay on track to each goal you set along the way to your final destination of BUSINESS SUCCESS.

    This is not Internet Marketing. This is Internet Business. Please get this point in your head first. It takes money to create a successful Internet Business. Don't think you can succeed without investments of TIME and MONEY. The online investment may not be as expensive as an offline brick and mortor business, but don't be fooled, you will need money to invest if you want true online success.

    Remember: "You Can't Scale Free Traffic."

    So if you think you can create a $10,000 per month online income only with free traffic, YOU ARE LIVING IN A DREAM WORLD. $500 per week on a regular basis is not attainable without paid traffic.

    To realize exactly what is needed to be done to have the "Internet Lifestyle", you need to learn the truth, not some pipedream that some scammer tries to sell you just to make a quick buck. You have to wake up to the truth. It may be difficult to accept, but once you realize what is real, a whole new world of possibilities are now clearly set in front of you. Just go for it and don't stop until you reach that feeling inside that says, "I am where I want to be."

    I know that the promisses of overnight success is tempting, but in the long run is 6 months down the road or even a year down the road, after the effort is put in, too long to wait for what you really want?

    I think I've made my point...

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  • Profile picture of the author Slippers
    Forget running cpa campaigns if you don't have a budget for testing.

    Start with organic traffic by cranking out content, This can be a blog, youtube channel, etc.

    Once you gain some traction focus on money articles (or money videos), that you monetize with affiliate links. Check the link in my signature for a detailed guide.

    After you make some money, start looking into paid traffic.

    P.S. There's no such thing as free traffic, unless you're time is worth nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ora Foods
    Hello Warrior Forum Community,

    Thank you it helps me a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author mfarg
    It's great that you see the value in starting your own business. I don't know what field you're in, but a lot of graduates have trouble finding jobs and paying their student loans. Personally, I think all colleges should require a course on entrepreneurship or at least offer and highly recommend it. Sadly, the entrepreneur path doesn't seem to be very highly regarded by most colleges.

    Dismounting the soapbox now, I humbly offer the following suggestions:
    1) Spend some time learning, but do so as systematically and economically as possible. Someone above said to read a lot on this forum, and I agree. Just realize a lot of people on here don't know much more than you do and are just posting to build up their clout by having a lot of posts. Take the time to learn who knows what they're talking about from who doesn't and spend your time listening to the good guys and gals.

    2) Learn how to investigate and figure out how people are really making money. Most people are making their money by teaching rather than by doing. As a general rule, you make a little by doing and a lot by teaching. Learn how to do something well others are struggling to do and then teach them how to do it. Basically, become an expert at something like writing sales copy, building lists, conversions, product creation, traffic generation, or something similar and teach others how to do it.

    3)Become a doer rather than a just a learner. A lot of folks are stuck in learning mode and think they need to learn one more thing before they start doing something. That inevitably leads to needing to learn one more thing. You can start doing business without knowing everything. In fact, you really don't know what you need to know until you start doing. It's in the doing that the best learning happens.

    4) DO NOT hire a coach or a mentor unless you KNOW they are trustworthy and will teach you what you need to know. In my opinion, it is better not to hire anyone until you have determined your path. There are plenty of people who will take your money and try and teach you their system. But they don't care about you and your success.

    Find someone who is doing what you want to do and ask them to help you. Try to work out an alternative arrangement if you can't pay them for their time. Maybe you can intern for them or even volunteer for a time as long as they will teach you what they know. You will learn more in 90 days working in an actual business than you will taking a 2K or even a 10K course.

    Hope you find this helpful.


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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Learn how to use other people's audiences.

    You don't have time to build your own? You don't have to :-)

    This forum is an example. You don't have to build the audience: it's already here. Facebook groups, same thing. Of course, don't act like a jerk and smear your crap around the room. That should go without saying, but apparently people need to hear it.

    If you demonstrate your ability to solve a problem to the relevant audience (eg. I should not be speaking in front of chicken farmers as I know nuthin' about chicken farming; however, a group of advanced marketers or business owners earning $40K+ a month would be a fit) they'll start coming over to you.

    Obsessing about this or that traffic source ("should I try Bing ads?") won't help you. Pick one thing and stick with it. Develop some competency in that area. One reason it's hard to succeed with paid traffic is it takes some commitment, financial and time, to learn--and that's a pretty good barrier to entry that will protect you somewhat once you have developed the skill.

    You need Traffic and you need Conversion. Have you literally mapped out your funnel? Drawn it out on paper? Do you see gaps? Don't buy anything at all until you've identified a gap and know this thing will fix the problem. Do not buy just because it sounds cool or the marketing hype is effective.

    The Map Is Not The Territory. Someone can give you the roadmap to success with all the steps laid out in detail, and you'll probably still have trouble with it. What works for me won't necessarily work for you. And what the gurus SAY is not always what they actually DO--even if they don't mean to omit or get things wrong, they will. My current favorite is a top pool player interviewed about how to win by sinking the 8 ball on the break: he got into wonderful detail of the stance, the way he used the cue, and so on.

    The observer tells him, "Uh, you're not actually doing that." And the pool player stands up and thoughtfully says, "You know, you're right. What really happens is I hear the sound of the balls going into the pockets before I break. And then that happens in real life."

    Uh huh. Can't trust 'em ;-)

    Pick a thing you know people are buying. Stick with a traffic method you can afford so you can learn it. Send the traffic to a conversion tool that's proven to work (that's why these Clickbank offers are useful: someone has already done the work of that part of the funnel for you.)

    Understand the work you are about here. Success comes from YOU, not the shiny object.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Jason mentioned selling to an audience of chicken farmers.

    He's right, they're not his audience.

    But if someone has a coop in their backyard, hasn't bought an egg (or bucket of chicken) in years, chicken farmers just might be a great audience for them.

    Everybody has a strength and a sweet spot. you just need to find yours.

    In the copywriting world, even seasoned A-listers tend to specialize. Clayton Makepeace writes for financial newsletters. Carline Anglade-Cole writes for nutritional supplements. Bob Bly does technical products. Each of these very talented and skilled writers could probably cross over successfully, but they tend to stick to what they do best.

    Find what you do best, then do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by berry38 View Post

    Hello,

    I would like to get some tips from experienced marketers or people who were in similar position like me. I know it is not possible to get rich overnight I just want decide about my next steps.

    Im a student and I finishing my study this year and then I will look for a job. However since I was a kid I have a dream about being my own boss and live independent life. I read a lot of successful stories from internet marketers who are experiencing financial freedom thanks to internet marketing and this motivated me even more.

    But there is a problem. I dont have much money to spend and I´m not sure which kind of online job would be best for me? Ecommerce? Like shopify or Amazon or selling t-shirts on sites like gearbubble etc..?
    Affiliate marketing, CPA??

    I know one of the most important thing is build a list. I have tried a promote different offers but since I dont have a list or audience on social sites it is a very difficult. Currently Im promoting Yoonla with Bing Ads (I can afford it thanks the coupons but not for the long run) and even though I got clicks I have very low opt in rate, so I dont know what Im doing wrong. One person told me the keywords I use are good, but maybe it is in landing page? Seeing this results is frustrating because instead of making money I´m lossing money. I also need to pay for clickbank and autoresponder as well.

    Building audience on social site takes a lot of time and there is no guarantee people will be interested in my offers, the same with youtube videos and paid traffic is expensive. I´m also a subscriber of a few marketers and they send me offers about different softwares and programs that can help people to make money and even though it is a good thing I feel overhelmed by all these informations I know jumping from one program to another is not a good thing.

    That is not what I want, so that is the reason why Im asking you here. To make sure where to start and stick to it, master it. So i dont know maybe CPA marketing would be good to start? Do you know anybody who can help with it

    Any suggestions will be appreciated.
    It sounds like you need to pick something and start moving forward.

    If budget is a problem, then perhaps you will need to look at free methods. Do you have any ideas on where to start?
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  • Profile picture of the author 100jancic
    Affiliate marketing would be cheapest for you to start with. Since you are on a tight budget, first find an offer you would like to promote, and learn about few free traffic methods and start combining them and try to master them fully... Learn how to divert that traffic to your offers. After you get some results, put those bing ad coupons to use and try making more cash, that will help you to grow further.
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  • Profile picture of the author IGotMine
    Currently Im promoting Yoonla with Bing Ads (I can afford it thanks the coupons but not for the long run) and even though I got clicks I have very low opt in rate, so I dont know what Im doing wrong.
    You're trying to promote the digital equivalent of a "chain letter."
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