Selling products not "stealing" other people's subscribers.

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Hi!
I have 2 questions:

1) If someone promote your product to his e-mail list, every new buyer automatically becomes your customer and becomes your subscriber so later you have any right to promote your other products directly to this customer skipping co-op with guy who promoted your 1st product.
So that's why some of product vendors are giving 100% commission to the affiliates. They give away all incomes for 1st product but that is how they build their own e-mail list so they can promote 2nd product on their own.
Am I right?

2) Is there any technical possibility to not "stealing" other people's subscribers that way? I can imagine how much time e-mail owners spent time to build their e-mail database.
That is why potential partners are allways very careful in choosing products they will promote. No matter how good your product is, if it is low ticket product they just don't want to give their subcribers for few dollars.

I don't want to build e-mail list from my partner's subcribers I just want my partner to drive traffic to my product and keep buyer's emails for themselves. Is that possible? Does this technique have a name?

Regards.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    I'm not sure if I am fully understanding what you're saying..
    It sounds like the initial person is promoting the second person's offer? The lead then becomes a subscriber to both? So it's not really stealing is it?
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    Is that possible? Does this technique have a name?
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  • Originally Posted by DanRock View Post

    1) They give away all incomes for 1st product but that is how they
    build their own e-mail list of targeted buyers, so they can promote 2nd product on their own.

    Building a targeted buyers list is more valuable, than giving away 100% affiliate commissions, for a sale. The entry level product positioned at beginning of your sales funnel, is usually considered low hanging fruit to build your targeted buyers email lists.

    Originally Posted by DanRock View Post

    2) Is there any technical possibility to not "stealing" other people's subscribers that way? I can imagine how much time e-mail owners spent time to build their e-mail database.
    That is why potential partners are allways very careful in choosing products they will promote. No matter how good your product is, if it is low ticket product they just don't want to give their subcribers for few dollars.

    I don't want to build e-mail list from my partner's subcribers I just want my partner to drive traffic to my product and keep buyer's emails for themselves. Is that possible? Does this technique have a name?

    Regards.
    In other words your don't see the need to grow your buyers email list, with the help of your affiliates' marketing efforts?
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    • Profile picture of the author DanRock
      Originally Posted by Internet Trillionaire View Post

      In other words your don't see the need to grow your buyers email list, with the help of your affiliates' marketing efforts?
      That's right. I don't have e-mail list I don't even plan to build my own list of targeted buyers. The only I have is a product very valuable (i guess) and I need someone in my niche (info product creation and business opps) who will promote my product to their customers.
      Maybe someone will buy it or not, just it.

      I am looking for people with e-mail database in my niche, no matter is it a small or big one.
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      • Profile picture of the author savidge4
        Originally Posted by DanRock View Post

        That's right. I don't have e-mail list I don't even plan to build my own list of targeted buyers. The only I have is a product very valuable (i guess) and I need someone in my niche (info product creation and business opps) who will promote my product to their customers.
        Maybe someone will buy it or not, just it.

        I am looking for people with e-mail database in my niche, no matter is it a small or big one.
        You would need to create a sales page... one that converts preferably?! and then for each "Affiliate" you have you would duplicate the landing page to identify which Affiliate is making what sale. Having been in your shoes before and not interested in the list data, i did capture the e-mail address and pass that data back to the affiliate so they knew who bought and who didnt, in case they wanted to do something on thier end. IE move the buyeer to a buyers list.
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      • If you don't have your email list, then you have to pay every time you ask other people to promote a product. This is not cost effective.
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  • Profile picture of the author DURABLEOILCOM
    Simple have them directly advertise to their customers email list with your offer, link webpage.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimboJim
    While there might be a technical way to do this, I wouldn't bother. Affiliates know that they are sending people your way.

    Here's how it goes. They build that email list and send offers to their subscribers. The person clicks the link, pays for the product and then they become your customer.

    HOWEVER, here's the point you're glossing over. They are going to stay with that original person and still receive their emails. For example, let's say the email list is about IM products and your's caught their attention. They are going to click the link and pay you money, but they are still going to eat up the emails about IM products.

    It's a win-win for everyone. You can have it that you don't collect email addresses...but that just seems weird and will make it harder for you to survive in the long run.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lean Six Sigma
    If someone is giving 100% commission away then yes they are banking on a higher LTV than just the initial purchase. There is no way to sell or rent your list while hoarding your customers for yourself. But also understand that people are customers of multiple things. If you share your customer it doesnt mean they will no longer buy from you. Just don't sell your customers to people who are in direct competition with you.
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