Beginner Looking for his way

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Hello Warriors,

My name is Jason, I am new to the Warrior Forum and very excited to be here.
I spent the entire year of 2018 getting my life back in gear from a devastating 7 year breakup, multiple losses of family members, and crippling depression. But I, along with 2019 am here and happier than ever. I am 29 years old and probably like most people here, hate their job and want to be freed from being a 9-5 slave. The problem for me is that I have no idea where my passion lies.

I went to a school called Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Arizona, I didn't choose to go to this school, it was mainly my parents decision since I was young and stupid, having no idea what life was about. My degree was called Global Security Intelligence Studies and I minored in Middle Eastern Studies. The studies varied between history, politics, geography, and government so it was pretty broad range. Most students who graduated were expected to join a government agency like the NSA, CIA, or other three letter acronym, which is what I grew accustomed to as well. The agency I applied to constantly was called the National-Geospatial Intelligence Agency or the NGA for short. I cannot remember how many times I applied to this place, but approx over 200 times, with no response.

I took my first job out of college at my towns local Assessors Office were I learned about taxes and property values and soon worked my way into the Geographic Information Systems department because it was closer related to what I studied and had at least something to do with geography. I worked at that place for two years before a private defense contractor called BAE Systems finally decided to hire me working for them in Pittsburgh. My position was a Geospatial technician and I thought that this was it, I had made it! This job ended up being the most God awful, boring, tedious job that I have ever done. I was devastated and decided to move back to Arizona and work for the Assessors Office again, this time in Phoenix, a much bigger city than I was in before.

This was, I would say the approx time period I began to change. I started reading books by Tony Robbins, Tim Ferris, and Napoleon Hill. My entire mindset began to change and it was like seeing the world for what it was for the very first time. I wanted to do this, I wanted to be just like them and do what i wanted, when i wanted, and with whom I wanted to do it with. My problem is that I don't know what my passion is, I have the same skill set as anyone going out and trying it, I am good at a lot of things, but not great at any. I try to focus on one thing and just study that, but end up getting bored or realize i didn't like it as much as I thought. I have tried different methods of finding my passion all the way from what makes me the most excited to listing my strengths and weaknesses. I have joined Meetup and am doing activities now I never would have imagined myself doing. I have joined Bumble and meet new friends who I tried connecting similar niches with, it just seems like nothing excites me enough to take that jump and do it. I do have an insane passion for music, particularly for classic rock, I absolutely LOVE bands like AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, Billy Squire, and Metallica. Currently, I spend a lot of time meditating and trying to find my passion that way.

I am just lost right now and any help at all would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for such a long intro post, I got a little carried away.
Thank You

-Jason T
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    A bit TMI () but I get your point.

    it just seems like nothing excites me enough to take that jump and do it.
    Don't over analyze - don't buy all the info about 'must be your passion'. Truth is most of us are not experts at much of anything - but know quite a bit about a varieity of topics/niches.

    I know it's not easy - but put the past behind you where it belongs. What you have is the path you plan to day and steps you take going forward.

    Your first plan of action is to develop a focus and realistic approach to starting in IM. You don't have to be 'excited' to take a jump - you don't have to identify your 'passion' to get started.

    Do research on this forum and in google search on how to find a niche - how to research a niche - how to create a simple plan of action. Make a list of topics that interest you - not passions, just things you don't hate.

    Want motivation? Choose a method of working online (product creation, affiliate marketing, etc etc etc), focus on learning how best to start earning with that method (you are a student - study!) and jump in.

    The 'passion' may not be the niche you work in - but in the money you earn and the freedom it provides. There is little as motivating as being paid for your efforts.

    Shift your thinking from 'me' to 'who needs help' - 'who wants to buy' - 'what do they want to buy' - 'what can I do to sell to that target market'.
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  • Profile picture of the author pdk12003
    Hi,

    As you said you are interested in Music particularly classic rock, then pursue the same as it will be like a hobby rather than work.Internet is a large ocean you can search for the music term & lot of websites giving useful information will pop up.

    Join any of the sites and observe anything suitable for you. Definitely you will find something which will attract you.

    What I can see from your long post is you have read good books of TOny RObbins & others.I am also a big fan of Tony Robbins.Use the simple techniques taught by him so that you will never get bore again.You have to be serious whatever you are doing & never ever quit.And understand one thing nobody knows the thing where he is interested.Take a decision & Move on.You will win.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    As you said you are interested in Music particularly classic rock, then pursue the same as it will be like a hobby rather than work.Internet is a large ocean you can search for the music term & lot of websites giving useful information will pop up.
    You would think this would be a good idea and maybe you can make it work somehow. I will just share my experience:

    I'm a musician from a family of musicians. I've been close to the music business my entire life. I tried numerous ways to make money in the music market. The only success I had was promoting guitar lessons as an affiliate before the million-and-one free lessons swamped YT.

    It's a tough nut to crack but that doesn't mean it's not an option. Just be aware it will not be easy. You would need to find a really unique angle.

    I suggest you study sales funnels and traffic generation. If you know how to generate targeted traffic on a consistent basis then things like niche become unimportant. Go where the money is!

    The 'passion' may not be the niche you work in - but in the money you earn and the freedom it provides.
    If I wasn't so anti-religious, I would say amen!

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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Thatcher
      I actually saved this quote, that's a great way to look at it
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Thatcher
      Brent, I appreciate your insights

      I was actually thinking of creating music digitally, I have been taking classes on Garageband and Logic X Pro on Mac.
      I am also in the process of learning electric guitar because i believe it is also important to learn the basics of what you want.
      I'm actually taking inspiration from bands like Greta Van Fleet and Tame Impala in learning what to create, If you haven't already heard of them i would highly suggest listening to them, they are what i believe to be the most influential music of my generation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Hi Jason,

    A few questions...

    Are you good at math?

    In the Middle Eastern studies part of your education, did you learn a language?

    Out of the various subjects of your education, which part do you now appreciate and maybe even like the most?

    What kind of problems would you like to solve, and for what kind of people or organizations?

    You've had some experience which gave you contrast. That's important and valuable. Knowing what you don't want is just as important as what you do want.

    My education was around factory management. At 25 I became a factory manager and at 26 had 150 people and 6 supervisors reporting to me...and I discovered I HATED it. Contrast.

    Interested in your reply.

    Thanks,

    Other Jason.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Thatcher
      Hi Other Jason,

      I am not the best at math, the most i took in college was Calculus and Statistics, I have probably grown to like it more as I left the school atmosphere actually.

      For the Middle Eastern Studies minor I did learn Arabic and used it for awhile while at my job with BAE but since then I have barely used it at all and have forgotten a great deal of it.

      I would say my favorite part about the classes was learning about history and geography for a particular area of the world, even now I would say I know a lot more geography than the normal person. It was also a military school so the teachings were very along those lines. I even considered joining the Air Force as an Officer when I graduated because I love being active on on my feet as well. But of course, that never happened and not sure if that would be the kind of life I want to live now. To be honest, I'm not sure of the life I want to live, I just know that I hate my job because its definitely not what I want to spend my days doing.

      I don't think I would want to become a manager of anyone, even though starting a business is being your own CEO, I can see why you would have hated it at that age though.
      I appreciate your questions, thanks

      -Jason T.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
        Originally Posted by Jason Thatcher View Post

        Hi Other Jason,

        I am not the best at math, the most i took in college was Calculus and Statistics, I have probably grown to like it more as I left the school atmosphere actually.

        For the Middle Eastern Studies minor I did learn Arabic and used it for awhile while at my job with BAE but since then I have barely used it at all and have forgotten a great deal of it.

        I would say my favorite part about the classes was learning about history and geography for a particular area of the world, even now I would say I know a lot more geography than the normal person. It was also a military school so the teachings were very along those lines. I even considered joining the Air Force as an Officer when I graduated because I love being active on on my feet as well. But of course, that never happened and not sure if that would be the kind of life I want to live now. To be honest, I'm not sure of the life I want to live, I just know that I hate my job because its definitely not what I want to spend my days doing.

        I don't think I would want to become a manager of anyone, even though starting a business is being your own CEO, I can see why you would have hated it at that age though.
        I appreciate your questions, thanks

        -Jason T.
        I hated it because it turned out to be, in both experiences, managing a bunch of children--regardless of their age. They wanted to tattle on one another. They did not have a Why for being there. They had bad vices (though that is certainly not exclusive to them.) They did not want to improve their skills. I have seen the same in many places since.

        What I found I wanted was a group of self-motivated, skilled people who wanted to cooperate, and knew why they showed up that day. That's been a guiding star ever since.

        My brother started out in GIS, got into environmental science, and since became an expert on construction in the arctic where permafrost is the big problem.

        I wonder if your interest in geography could be transferable, to something like mapping organizations. That would come down to whether you enjoy "understanding the territory and representing it" ... or are more interested in knowing the names of the places.

        I'm going to PM you to book a call to discuss this further...hopefully you'll accept. Some of the other members will know that's a valuable offer ;-) EDIT: it won't be to pitch anything or sell anything...but to communicate faster and dig more into what you want.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    I was actually thinking of creating music digitally,
    That's great but how will you make money?

    There are numerous threads on this forum titled something like "How do I make money from my music." For a while, we got one a week. I'm not saying you can't, just be realistic.

    I would definitely start in some other way if making money is the goal.

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  • Profile picture of the author cherry enders
    Wow, that's quite the bio!

    IMO, affiliate marketing is the easiest way to start your online career. What you choose from and decide on is different for everyone.

    You don't have to deal directly with clients, create any products or need much experience to make it work.

    Simply find someone who is doing what you want to do and model them.

    I've read Tony Robbins, Russell Brunson also, but my daily reader is Straight Line Leadership by Dusan Djukich.

    By the way, you have great taste in music!
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Hi Jason,

    That's a very long story

    I think you should just pick a traffic source and go! Don't overthink it. Jump in and start and learn as you go.
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