Are Private Blog Networks (PBNs) Worth Building?

by N1nj4
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I loved to use PBNs when i was doing SEO back in 2010. I daily used to grow my network. But for now i noticed google is catching all strategies. Even i've tried by using different DNS. Is there any work full strategy to make PBNs?
#blog #building #networks #pbns #private #worth
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  • Profile picture of the author options
    Yes they still work, as long as your link profile doesnt contain just PBN's try and have a diversity of links.

    There is a good site here to find expired domain names with metrics. https://domregister.org/
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Thanks to RANKBRAIN, even if you were to artificially boost your rankings now, if your content delivers a mediocre or bad user experience, you'll get dinged by Google

    I'd focus less on backlink trickery and more on high quality, long form, multi-angle content
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    • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
      Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

      Thanks to RANKBRAIN, even if you were to artificially boost your rankings now, if your content delivers a mediocre or bad user experience, you'll get dinged by Google

      I'd focus less on backlink trickery and more on high quality, long form, multi-angle content
      I couldn't agree with you more. Backlinking is just too risky in 2019. Building a PBN network will cost you $1,000 per year for 10 sites. In my opinion it is not worth the return.

      Spend that money on 2,000 word high quality content, and watch as your site gets hundreds of rankings.

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    • Profile picture of the author savidge4
      Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

      I'd focus less on backlink trickery and more on high quality, long form, multi-angle content
      This is a bit of a catch 22. you can have all of the high quality content you want, but if no one is seeing it.. well what good is it? On any given subject the BEST content is buried deep in the serps because the author A) doesn't care or thinks SEO is a waste of time. or B) they flat out don't know. I might suggest B is the greater percentage of the 2.

      As an example I search scientific data all the time and the best science write ups are almost always on page 10 or something, because scientific data is not so SEO friendly in general. There have been cases that I refer to the original page and re write the article in my own style just to get it to rank... and it does.

      Rank Brain is good for the user.. KINDA

      Its better for the Author that understands what is going on and presenting information in a manor that pleases Rank Brain - by default being more end user friendly. In the case of scientific data type stuff adding images, and info graphics and charts goes a long way.

      So is it worth building PBN's? It depends on the value at the end. I have a tendency of building sites within the same vertical and specializing on individual topics... so in a way I develop PBN's. I don't go all crazy and buy expired domains and all of that.. I really don't see the need. UNLESS you are buying domains that are in CONTEXT to the topic of the site you are building.
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  • Profile picture of the author CherryMiss
    I don't use PBN. My business was ruined in 2015 because of PBN scheme. I restored it but I don't want this risk anymore.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Any scheme or strategy designed to manipulate people or systems, dies Move away from PBN. Create valued content. Make strong bonds. Succeed long term through your organic approach.
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    Ryan Biddulph, Blogger, Author, World Traveling Digital Nomad at Blogging From Paradise
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  • Profile picture of the author BillyPilgrim
    Well, the folks over at Income School have consistently shown that great content coupled with time and volume DOES produce high (even number one) SERPS results. SEO has gone past PBNs. It's a good thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author savidge4
      Originally Posted by BillyPilgrim View Post

      Well, the folks over at Income School have consistently shown that great content coupled with time and volume DOES produce high (even number one) SERPS results. SEO has gone past PBNs. It's a good thing.
      Interesting to look over... something caught my eye while looking over things.. "Jim bought this and he built the site" or "Rickys dad bought this and Ricky helped"

      The sites Involve EXPERIENCE - Experience equates to AUTHORITY - Authority equates to conversions. Conversions with the "Right" ad networks equates to rank boost

      There is probably a bit more than SEO at work here - BUT 8 months to rank a site to a consistent amount of traffic is not a pretty valid and feasable number to shoot for.

      And I agree, all the tricks in the world can get you only so far... it DOES come down to content - BUT not content alone.
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  • Profile picture of the author BillyPilgrim
    Well no. There are members inside the group who have made job quitting money using content only in 24 months. How that content is made and their keyword research (most of it is available free on their Youtube channel) is what does it. You can speculate but I'm a member. Note I am not promoting them as an affiliate here, just stating the facts..
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    • Profile picture of the author savidge4
      Originally Posted by BillyPilgrim View Post

      Well no. There are members inside the group who have made job quitting money using content only in 24 months. How that content is made and their keyword research (most of it is available free on their Youtube channel) is what does it. You can speculate but I'm a member. Note I am not promoting them as an affiliate here, just stating the facts..
      I can speculate.... so being a member, how is it working for you? How long have you used the program? Are you making job quitting money?

      I know you don't know me... but rest assured I can SEO with the best of them, was just pointing out the examples they have left on their site had that stand out parallel. Happens to be a standout detail that can really make or break a project.

      WHY does buying an RV and then creating content on the subject matter? Its has a lot to do with TRUST factor which has less to do with getting traffic as it does CONVERTING traffic. "I bought an RV and this is my journey" - vs - "5 RV's compared" by some guy that scraped content from other sites THAT helps traffic.. but you really cant have 1 without the other. you KNOW what you are writing about or you don't. And with most things in life, Faking it until you make it can only get you so far. UNLESS, the is a whole lot of research behind the faking part.

      I develop sites on MANY topics based on research. I have created and sold sites that sold .45 cal pistol holsters ( never have owned one ) to Skinny jeans ( never owned or wore any of these either)

      Its pretty common here on WF for many to suggest going with what you know - or YOUR passion... and the underlying reason is the CONTENT will be better for it. the content will have a unique "Voice" it wont be re hashed scraped crap from 5 other sites. Not about to say it works every time, but it is a start in the right direction.

      Just because you have content that "Ranks" because you have learned some SEO trick or 2 or spent the time and money implementing a PBN.. Doesn't mean you are going to convert the traffic that you get - this forum is FILLED with people that don't.

      I can tell you that starting a "Project" based on your personal experience or a journey, or your overall level of expertise makes the content more enjoyable to read, and because you are one of the tribe, you are trying to amass, its easier to convert them.
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      • Profile picture of the author BillyPilgrim
        I know you don't know me... but rest assured I can SEO with the best of them, was just pointing out the examples they have left on their site had that stand out parallel. Happens to be a standout detail that can really make or break a project.

        I have no reason to doubt you. Not certain what you mean by "left on their site". I know what they make.

        WHY does buying an RV and then creating content on the subject matter? Its has a lot to do with TRUST factor which has less to do with getting traffic as it does CONVERTING traffic. "I bought an RV and this is my journey" - vs - "5 RV's compared" by some guy that scraped content from other sites THAT helps traffic.. but you really cant have 1 without the other. you KNOW what you are writing about or you don't. And with most things in life, Faking it until you make it can only get you so far. UNLESS, the is a whole lot of research behind the faking part.

        Ok, and?

        I develop sites on MANY topics based on research. I have created and sold sites that sold .45 cal pistol holsters ( never have owned one ) to Skinny jeans ( never owned or wore any of these either)

        Yup, me too. Made money on things I'd rather forget.

        Its pretty common here on WF for many to suggest going with what you know - or YOUR passion... and the underlying reason is the CONTENT will be better for it. the content will have a unique "Voice" it wont be re hashed scraped crap from 5 other sites. Not about to say it works every time, but it is a start in the right direction.

        Sure, but when you hire good writers that do that...

        Just because you have content that "Ranks" because you have learned some SEO trick or 2 or spent the time and money implementing a PBN.. Doesn't mean you are going to convert the traffic that you get - this forum is FILLED with people that don't.

        I did. But it's not about me.

        I can tell you that starting a "Project" based on your personal experience or a journey, or your overall level of expertise makes the content more enjoyable to read, and because you are one of the tribe, you are trying to amass, its easier to convert them.[/QUOTE]

        Really? Nothing new there. Halbert made money with a stolen Geneology book. Not certain what you're getting at. My point is content can rank and make bank. End of story. To say otherwise is wrong. Unless you listen to Neil Patel;s diatribe.
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