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How many of y'all had mentors when you first got started, and how did you find them?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Demonstrate some serious effort, first. Not saying you haven't: I don't know you.

    But what I do know is a lot of people want something for nothing.

    I've helped a lot of people since 2011, and the fact of the matter is most wanted something for nothing.

    They didn't commit.

    They dipped their toes in. They wanted the free conversations, the pointers... but would they then go DO anything with it?

    No.

    Most of the time, no.

    We call these people "Askholes." You find them a few months later asking someone else for advice. Turns out they don't like that direction, either.

    Some of these people are still struggling--they were struggling in 2012 and they're struggling today 7 years later.

    So what I have done is learned to heavily filter.

    It doesn't matter how nice the other person, the mentee, is.

    Them sitting there listening to all I have to say, and then going and doing absolutely nothing about it (I had a web designer as my last version of this, he was in eastern Europe and ended up doing something different about helping a hair salon--nothing to do with the direction he approached me for help with--and then his FB account got nuked) is a waste of everybody's time.

    Rather than asking the so-general, "What should I Doooooooo...?" question, I recommend you take some action. Learn something. Figure a thing or two out for yourself.

    THEN you can look for specific help in a specific field: "Hey, I tried email marketing and here's what I learned...the system fell down at this point, and what can I do about that, exactly?"

    MUCH better question than, "I have no idea what I'm doing and all things appear equally important; please help me! What do I do?"


    Get some specific experience so you have a baseline to talk about and compare with.

    Then look through posters and find some who resonate with you.

    It could be by subject matter, eg. video marketing, or it could be their personality.

    As a mentee the best thing you can do is TAKE THE ADVICE given to you and come back with specific questions. These demonstrate to your mentor that you have indeed done something...and that is the biggest factor ensuring they'll continue to work with you.

    Mentorship is not about money, for the mentor. It's about the pleasure of watching the mentee learn, grow, do the thing. And if you don't give them that in return for their time and expertise, then you're an Askhole ;-) and the relationship does not deserve to continue.

    More people are willing to be mentors than you might think. The issue is what I've stated: for the most part, it's just not worth it. Learn something, and buy coaching. But for gosh sake, get specific. There are an infinite number of ways to become successful. Some people sell pet rocks. Others provide complex security services. It's your move.
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    • Profile picture of the author blackbelt
      WOW nice post. Mentors come in all shapes and sizes depending on what your doing, like graphics, building links, promotions, marketing etc.The first thing I look for when looking for a program is what do they offer. That is why I went with the program I'm in now and earning like nicely. The program must offer tools to work with they must have everything I need to start earning along with videos you can understand. They must offer excellent training. With that training you can use it to build any online business. I was lucky when I found the program I did.I was amazed when it flat out worked.
      With that said it takes commitment, it takes time to go threw the training, for me it was a weekend. I spend 45 min everyday working it and doing what I'm told of course I learned some tricks along the way. But as far as mentors go no one will do it for you. The CEO of my program does a webinar live every week for members to invite new members to in my opinion that is a mentor. Still today I'm still earning daily cash, I also have started with other programs all because the training was their. Bottom line is commitment and action with a program that actually provides it all. Sorry I got long winded.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I didn't find them - they found me. I was a newbie - asked questions and then reported back on the results of what I tried (as a result of advice here and elsewhere).


    The questions were detailed and specific rather than 'how do I do affiliate marketing' or something broad like that. When people see you are working on your own - learning on your own - they are more willing to share their time with you.



    A mentor is anyone who knows more than you do - and is willing to share that knowledge with you. Too often, new IMer seem to expect a mentor to take them from 'zero to hero' online - and that's not usually how it works.


    More likely you will have many mentors along the way - each teaching you something based on their experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jamell
    I found them by networking asking questions reading blogs and listening to YouTube videos
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  • Profile picture of the author edward liam
    Well, you don't need a mentor especially since they are really expensive now! Cheap ones might be no good!

    The way I started was to read a bunch of things on google and then practice later on with the help of a mastermind (a group of people like yourself trying to get the campaigns or website to become profitable).

    You'd be surprised at what you can do yourself and your group if you ONLY just try and keep trying!

    My 2 cents...
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Originally Posted by Steve Spiro View Post

    How many of y'all had mentors when you first got started, and how did you find them?
    Are you looking for a coach or a mentor .

    A coach plays the role Jason talks about .as for mentors/masters you generally need to work for them so they teach you what you need or they need you to know.

    And it could only take a few days or few weeks.

    Some months or years so a realemtor mentee relationship the mentor gains the most as it is going on or at the start
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  • Profile picture of the author DatacomGuy
    Fantastic discussion. In the same boat - just trying to soak up knowledge from anyone sharing it.

    To @odahh, if the question were asked to me i'd probably say i'd be looking for both.

    Masterminds are great sources also.
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by DatacomGuy View Post

      Fantastic discussion. In the same boat - just trying to soak up knowledge from anyone sharing it.

      To @odahh, if the question were asked to me i'd probably say i'd be looking for both.

      Masterminds are great sources also.
      Ok if you are looking for coaches or mentors .

      What are you doing that a coach would help you improve and get better results .

      And what skills do you have that a mentor would allow you to work for them and put time and effort into helping you develop those skills

      If you are in knowledge spu he mode stick to gathering knowledge from recorded or written material and attend workshops and seminars .
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  • Profile picture of the author conleyposts
    I've reached out to potential mentors through applications like LinkedIn or WeWork. Typically, a few are willing to go for a cup of coffee.
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  • Profile picture of the author GodInyou
    I've never done anything like that !!
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  • Profile picture of the author cheese1688
    ohh, i had like 4 mentors in the past.
    2 was from warrior forum and another 2 from facebook.
    Only 1 was really good, he was helpful, very informative and really helped me to get started.
    All the rest was not good, of course i learned something new, but it wasnt worth to spend thousands.

    In my opinion mentors are good decission, but only if you found really a good one and its not easy to find such.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richer
      Russel Brunson may be of interest to you. Since I followed him and read his books my affiliate business has started to really take off. The books are free you only pay shipping incredible value.
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  • Profile picture of the author wasimnaqvi
    Is it necessary for someone to have a mentor?
    Like I have a few friends that inspire me a lot and I follow them just like mentors without letting them know this. Is it the correct way?
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  • Profile picture of the author GraceBaque
    I'm just new here and this question caught my attention.

    I think, we all need mentors to master things. If we really want it.

    This is based on my experience.

    I really want to be a Virtual Assistant, to work from home. Because I wanted to save money and thinking that I can learn it by my own, I try to just search on how to be a VA. But I really struggle and don't know where to start as there are lot of articles found in google that you can read.

    Then one day, I just saw a Facebook Ads offering not just teach you but mentor you to be a VA. Even in doubt, I register and enroll to their course and its also cost money. And I think that is one of the best decision I've made in my life. In just a few weeks, clients notice my profile and even checking if I'm fit to what they need. Unlike learning by my own, it takes too long to really understand the job. Their goal is not just to teach you but to mentor you until I got my first client. And the money that I have to pay them? It really worth it.

    Here's the reason why I chose this career:

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  • Profile picture of the author hedidos
    Nada, no one, first time doing by learning by myself. Because I'm to shy to ask to someone to tell me how to do something..
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  • Profile picture of the author dvz
    simple search and youtube videos , try , must help .
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    Originally Posted by Steve Spiro View Post

    How many of y'all had mentors when you first got started, and how did you find them?
    I got very lucky.

    We're going back about two decades now. I never called him a mentor at the time - doubt I ever thought of the term. I called him a friend. Still do.

    He was the top of the food chain in his niche. I entered the niche. Got chatting to him through a forum, like you and I are doing now.

    Before I knew it, and without asking, and for whatever reason, he sort of took me under his wing. Gave me opportunities. Gave me hands-on help.

    He helped make me a real IMer.

    None of which is very helpful to you, so let me give you some advice . . .

    Make your own way in IM first.

    James Kanigan makes (as he always does, the clever git) some very good points.

    One of which is this:

    They didn't commit.
    I can only help someone if they really want it. Making it in IM is hard work. The people who do well, in my own experience, are the people who stay the course.

    And I don't look down on people who don't stay the course.

    A newbie - or a relative newbie - needs to have a period of time, I think, in which they go it alone and see (nutshell) if this is the right career for them.

    I think there comes a time - a wake up moment - where you either realise you've chosen the right or wrong career path.

    And it's that point that, if you choose a mentor/ coach, where you can make the right decision.

    Last piece of advice . . .

    Find your passion area of IM.

    Maybe it's email marketing or YouTube or apps.

    Whatever.

    Try to decide on that and do indeed ensure you have passion for it. Passion helps because it makes the hard work to come more palatable.

    And, at that point?

    If you go the mentor route?

    Try to find someone with bags of experience in that area.

    Tom
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