Feeling lost on my first steps on affiliate marketing

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Hello guys,
I started affiliate marketing 3 months ago, I've launched many sweeptstakes's campaigns and leadgen through bing ads and Zeropark. But everytime I'm getting -100% ROI aka 0 conversions, I spent more than 300$ and I'm running out of savings.
I feel very confused and down, because I have a decent amount of knowledge and followed step by steps many methods of gurus of affiliate marketing, in vain.
Maybe I'm doing something terribly wrong, and lately I'm just thinking this thing isn't for me.
I would keep some hope if I were getting at least 1 or 2 conversion on campaigns, I would say that I need to tweak it or just a weak product.
Can you please guide me and give me some insights? Go to another thing maybe? Some things I should take into consideration? It could be anything.
It's really critical for me because I need a second income to help my family.
Thank in advance.
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  • Profile picture of the author IGotMine
    step by steps many methods of gurus
    You need a system that works and to stick to that system.
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    • Profile picture of the author ilyass123
      oki thank you for this insight
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by ilyass123 View Post

    Hello guys,
    I started affiliate marketing 3 months ago, I've launched many sweeptstakes's campaigns and leadgen through bing ads and Zeropark. But everytime I'm getting -100% ROI aka 0 conversions, I spent more than 300$ and I'm running out of savings.
    I feel very confused and down, because I have a decent amount of knowledge and followed step by steps many methods of gurus of affiliate marketing, in vain.
    Maybe I'm doing something terribly wrong, and lately I'm just thinking this thing isn't for me.
    I would keep some hope if I were getting at least 1 or 2 conversion on campaigns, I would say that I need to tweak it or just a weak product.
    Can you please guide me and give me some insights? Go to another thing maybe? Some things I should take into consideration? It could be anything.
    It's really critical for me because I need a second income to help my family.
    Thank in advance.
    Can you share more details on what you've tried? it sounds like you're falling into the same trap that many do when starting out and jumping around too much.

    I recommend you start by focusing in 1 area and keep in that area and learn it inside and out before jumping around. Pick either bingads or Zeropark (or another traffic provider) and stick with it
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    • Profile picture of the author ilyass123
      Should I share some screenshots of my campaigns?
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  • Hi, I understand that feeling. I had been there but the last thing to do is to give up after trying.

    I am not sure if you had been moving around too much coz you have to be laser-focus as well. Affiliate Marketing is a journey and not an overnight success story. I am still learning - everyday. I used different traffic driver for my 2 different niches. However, I am now focusing on just 1 niche.

    Maybe you need a strategy behind your advertising or any form of promotion so as to navigate better. Perhaps building your e-mail list to couple your Affiliate Marketing with E-mail Marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author xjason2x
    If you are doing paid traffic with affiliate offers, you need to make sure you are doing your tracking properly. For example android vs Iphone which has better ROI? Chrome VS Firefox, Desktop VS mobile, and GEO etc. You can use tracking software like voluum and BeMob to do this. Cut off the ones that are perform badly in terms ROI or conversions.

    Just model after a campaign that is already doing well don't reinvent the wheel. You can take a winning campaign, copy their ad creative, targeting, affiliate offer and improve it.
    You can just spy tools such as adplexity to do this.

    If your campaign does not convert after spending 3x the commission of the affiliate offer, I would stop the campaign and look for a new offer. And $300 is not a good amount to start with paid traffic. You need a bigger budget to buy a lot of data and do a lot of split testing in order to find a winning campaign. It took me more than $2k ad spend before I found a winning campaign.

    If you do not have the budget, maybe you should not be doing paid traffic. As there are many other ways to make money online without doing paid traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author ilyass123
      Thank you for those insights, I will try to work it out using thos informations
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Miller
    Create affiliate campaigns to the audience who are most likely to buy the product.
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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliateRag
    First off...it's a trap! Let me explain
    followed step by steps many methods of gurus of affiliate marketing, in vain.
    #1 You don't need many methods or to follow those who claim to be gurus. Most won't help you in any way...usually just regurgitated garbage they can sell to people who haven't figured out yet that they aren't actually a guru...
    ---What you need there is 1 proven method from those who have made millions
    (a few of these folks are Matt Bacak, Igor Khiefits, Jo Han Mok, Tom Gaddis just to name a few...there are many to choose from just make sure they are truly experts.) Figure out how these people are doing it and copy them!
    #2 You need a good product to sell..
    ---as an affiliate this can be tougher to figure out...but start by looking at the rep of the product creators (ie. on Warrior Plus you can go to the vendors profile and see their reviews and ratings) Choose vendors who only have the best reps
    #3 Focus on one niche....don't sell everything to everyone or you'll end up selling nothing to no one....sell one thing to one person...that person is your Perfect Customer. But first you must know WHAT market....You must get a tight (narrow) focus on your target audience. (ie. Photography (too big)>>Macro Photography (getting closer)>> Macro Photo Tips (perfect!)
    #4 Define your perfect customer. To do this, you need to know what your niche is. Once you have a narrow focus on a niche (ie. macro photo tips). Now that you have this...figure out who is looking for products in this niche. Find where they hang out (FB groups...forums...linkedin..etc) Learn what issues they are having. Get very detailed about who is going to be your perfect customer. The better you know your P.C. the easier it is to market to them.
    #5 MOST IMPORTANT!!>> Build an email list! Find ways to capture emails from your P.C. so you have a group of people to market to. This will be a targeted list of people who have designated themselves as potential customers. They have raised their hands and said "pick me" when they signed up for your list.
    #6 Email your list the best possible products to solve the problems you have already defined when you defined your P.C. Solve the problems of your P.C.

    And Finally!!!!>>>>stay consistent! Millionaires don't get rich by giving up. They typically fail many times before they truly succeed. You don;t have to do it perfect...just keep doing it and eventually you'll get better and better. Learn to write sales copy. There is alot of advise out there. Learn how to be a marketer......Watch some Dan Kennedy videos! You'll get there!
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    • Profile picture of the author ilyass123
      Wow! really needed some answer like that, many thanks.
      And hope you will get the best from what you do.
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  • Profile picture of the author aktar al
    I have started with affiliate marketing during the lockdown time. As my situation demanded to take action what I avoided to do all the years. But now despite of the lockdown periods in lots of country's I am doing well with affiliate marketers even cometing with big stablished marketers. I have also created a fb group where my subscribers get help to get started and create their own success. What I have experienced it is not the shiny get rich mind which helps it just succs. What brings you the success is when you are giving value and have a good proven concept
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  • Profile picture of the author TobiMDD
    I feel you my friend..
    I failed for a long time and just was not able to make it work..
    I lost $3000 before I saw my first sale..

    and in the end it really just was a mindset issue and the wrong products I promoted..


    Affiliate marketing is not as easy as it was for many years because there are a lot of fake gurus and idiots trying to make a sale instead of really helping you


    be careful of what you are trying to sell and always think about whether you would like to buy from yourself



    because that way you make sure that you offer the right thing in the right way
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  • Profile picture of the author cheese1688
    Originally Posted by ilyass123 View Post

    Hello guys,
    I started affiliate marketing 3 months ago, I've launched many sweeptstakes's campaigns and leadgen through bing ads and Zeropark. But everytime I'm getting -100% ROI aka 0 conversions, I spent more than 300$ and I'm running out of savings.
    I feel very confused and down, because I have a decent amount of knowledge and followed step by steps many methods of gurus of affiliate marketing, in vain.
    Maybe I'm doing something terribly wrong, and lately I'm just thinking this thing isn't for me.
    I would keep some hope if I were getting at least 1 or 2 conversions on campaigns, I would say that I need to tweak it or just a weak product.
    Can you please guide me and give me some insights? Go to another thing maybe? Some things I should take into consideration? It could be anything.
    It's really critical for me because I need a second income to help my family.
    Thank in advance.
    To be honest, you had to be prepared to spend money and $300 for testing ads isn't a lot, sometimes people find a winning campaign after spending $50, sometimes you need to spend $500 to make your first conversion. Split testing is the main factor going from ZERO conversion campaign to start to make positive ROI.

    Have you tried different landing pages? If yes, how many?
    Different products, different traffic sources?
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  • Profile picture of the author sirtiman
    I don't like to suggest you to try other paid traffic sources, but if you are near to desperate about making money you can try fiverr or any freelancing sites. Just to collect fast cash and if you are ready to jump on your paid ads again. What happen to 0 ROI? Are you not doing list building? You can kick @ss that gurus for making you broke.
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    I've been promoting affiliate / CPA offers for over 19 years. However, I do things differently than most.

    I heavily promote PPL (pay per lead...lead generation) offers. This is because there is no credit card / purchase required to complete an offer. All a user has to do is fill out a form, so conversion rates are typically much higher compared to offers that require a sale to be made.

    I favor offers that have a make, get or save money benefit to them, as they have overall worked the best. They also tend to have the greatest mass appeal (will be of interest to a large general audience), so the potential exists to produce high volume and they are fairly easy to cross-promote on the back-end.

    Some of the verticals (niches) I have done extremely well with are: education, insurance, loans, debt, credit, mortgage, assistance, discount offers, homeowner offers, etc...

    The bulk of the PPL offers that I promote pay $15-$40 per lead, but I also promote offers that pay more and less. You don't want to get too caught up on what an offer pays because how well it converts is just as important. For example, if you have an offer that pays $9, but if it converts at 2X or more of a $20 offer, then it will perform about the same or possibly better. At the same time, if you have an offer that pays $90 and it converts poorly, it may not even be worth promoting.

    I have also done just as good with dating website sign-ups and pretty good with free trial + S/H offers. I also promote a very limited number of offers that are straight sales. For them, mass appeal is still the number one thing I look for and I also look for one of the following...

    1) The product is new and/or novel-unique and you can't purchase it locally or even something similar. I don't waste my time with it once something similar shows up in Walmart.

    2) The buyer can truly get what is being offered at a decent discount.

    3) Solves a house is on fire type problem.

    However, I mainly promote non-PPL offers on the backend.

    Bottom line, it's far easier to get someone fill out a short form than to get them to pull out their credit card and make a purchase. So why struggle with trying to sell this or that, when you can provide free information that users want/need and get paid well doing it.

    Something to think about.
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  • Profile picture of the author digital55
    It could be a few things. First check your optin page and see if you are getting subscribers. Your optin page should have a major benefit as to why someone would want to subscribe to your list.

    If you are, then the problem is with your email marketing or your product. Make sure you have your autoresponder set up and follow up with your subscribers on a consistent basis. Many of them wont buy right away but you can build a relationship with them and stay in contact with them.

    If you are doing all this, try promoting a different product and see if you get better results.
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  • Profile picture of the author ilyass123
    Thank you guys, I'm really touched for all the efforts answering my first post on this forum.
    I think the problem in IM is the abundancy of informations, and 80% of it is false or useless because the people skew informations for selling through affiliate links etc.., and worst thing is that 80% of this informations hide the other 20%, and make it harder, since you gotta persist through false informations and not give up untill you reach results with the right knowledge, and forums are great source of it, since there's no profit, just people sharing their knowledge.
    I'm starting to see some profits, so thank you again all, and I'm open for any collaboration, and maybe I'm the one who can help now.
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