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I have an affiliate site and the pages automatically generate from Affiliate window feeds.

As the pages are just pretty much copy's from the OG products the SEO is pretty none existent and traffic is extremely low.

Yesterday had one visit, this resulted in £6 commission but it was only a single visit.

What can I do to get more visitors to the site? But more specifically the product pages to click through.

Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    Market your site.


    Google ads, facebook ads, facebook particpation, forum participation, create pages that you rank in Google, buy newsppaer ads, radio ads, banners on sites your prospects visit.


    Originally Posted by Farmingstock View Post

    I have an affiliate site and the pages automatically generate from Affiliate window feeds.

    As the pages are just pretty much copy's from the OG products the SEO is pretty none existent and traffic is extremely low.

    Yesterday had one visit, this resulted in £6 commission but it was only a single visit.

    What can I do to get more visitors to the site? But more specifically the product pages to click through.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author LawrenceNetto
    Ranking affiliate website in the search engines is much difficult. Moreover, you can't run an AdWord campaign. The best solution is Facebook ads with a good design landing page. Please note, you can directly promote your affiliate pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author savidge4
    Originally Posted by Farmingstock View Post

    I have an affiliate site and the pages automatically generate from Affiliate window feeds.

    As the pages are just pretty much copy's from the OG products the SEO is pretty none existent and traffic is extremely low.

    Yesterday had one visit, this resulted in £6 commission but it was only a single visit.

    What can I do to get more visitors to the site? But more specifically the product pages to click through.

    Thanks
    Did you hear that? it sounds like knocking no? where is it coming from? Just check the front door. <creek> You open the front door and guess who is standing there? OPPORTUNITY.

    THIS exact scenario is what gets me up in the morning... THIS exact scenario doesn't let me sleep at night... THIS exact scenario is a marketers wet dream.

    I can only hope you have Google Analytics or the like installed. You want to find the data on that ONE single visit that turned into a conversion. I am going to bet your duplicate non ranking content is buried on page 8 or something of the SERPS for the term this person searched. THIS is the opportunity.

    Out of shear fortitude this end user just searched through 8 pages ( or more ) of content and decided to buy from your link. What does this say for the 80 plus pages before yours? not much right? That means the competition for this term is weak. THIS is the opportunity.

    What happens if you throw content that is worth something up to the first page of the SERPS? a conversion a week? one a day? 4 a day?

    THIS is the very strategy I use... when you are first creating a site and doing SEO you can only rely on general keyword term data. Be it Google Keyword tool or whatever else tool. they only give you an idea, and generally not a very good one. THIS however is different in the fact it is user driven data. The end user scanned across 80+ links to land on your page and then actually bought something.

    This literally takes the first mentioned moment from "Did you hear that?" to "Hey someone is at the front door."

    When opportunity knocks you have to answer the door!

    Hope that Helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author Apratim Barua
    SEO is a long term strategy. Getting organic traffic from Google and other search engines doesn't happen in a day or two. It requires continuous effort in creating quality content for your target audience.

    Having said that, if you want to get instant traffic then you should be concentrating your efforts at social media marketing. Be consistent in creating content for social media and share your posts. Don't forget to engage with your audience. It helps create awareness about your brand.

    Paid advertising is another way to get traffic to your website instantly. Google and Facebook ads are highly targeted and if you know what you are doing, you can see good ROI.
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    • Profile picture of the author savidge4
      Originally Posted by Apratim Barua View Post

      SEO is a long term strategy. Getting organic traffic from Google and other search engines doesn't happen in a day or two. It requires continuous effort in creating quality content for your target audience.
      I am going to say this is not true. The example I used above would be an example of this... If the OP can identify the exact point of entry to his site that created the conversion, and then create content that will have the ability to rank vs the current content that is "duplicate" in nature. They ( the OP ) should see an amount of results in DAYS.

      SEO when kinda blindly following Keyword tool data directly from Google or from the use of a tool is indeed Long term ( usually ) But, in this instance there is something a bit more clear that can be used. the end user scrounged thru who knows how many pages to find a site to buy what they are looking for. THIS is real time actual data vs a data pool that is provided by google that we all know in way or another is skewed.

      THIS is the clear indication that the previous pages are not serving "The searcher" so creating content that does just that - Server the searcher, with the needed information and Action ( buying something ) Google WILL move that content up in rank.

      Originally Posted by million 31 View Post

      When you create a website, your site goes in the 'sandbox' in google a while. Google does not like new websites.
      Again I am going to disagree with this statement. a 0 DA is not going to rank for terms that get 1000 visitors per month. Finding terms that get say 10 a month is whats needed. Once your site is ranking for low traffic terms your DA will go up.

      Think of ii this way you have 2 sites that are pretty much the same 1 of them has 10 pages of content targeting keywords with 1000+ visitors a month. Chances are better than good this site will not get any love in the SERPS and on a good day pages might be found on page 5.

      The second site has the same 10 pages but targets terms with far less monthly traffic. anywhere from 0 to 100 visitors per month. These pages will obviously rank better, and you should expect to see listings on page 1.

      Between the 2 sites which will have a greater DA. Greater DA increases a sites ability to rank a page correct?

      Its not that there is a "Sandbox" there is a lower ability ( DA ) to rank a page. And the idea that you will rank for a term with an amount of traffic and competition ( a term with 1000 searches per month ) is more a self imposed sandbox than anything.

      THIS is why most if not 99.9% of people think SEO is a long term strategy. They are overshooting the ability of the site to rank. You can write content based on terms that are out of your league and get no traffic, or you can accelerate your sites ability to rank for more competitive terms by targeting low traffic terms up front.

      That I might add WILL produce an amount of traffic - be it maybe only a few a month, but the probability of the term that gets traffic being long term and of a buying nature means less traffic will most likely translate to conversions, and isn't that what the whole effort of SEO is all about anyways?

      Originally Posted by VirtualVeena View Post

      All new websites go in the Sandbox?
      Google does not like new websites? Why?
      To answer your questions specifically.... does a website go into a "Sandbox"? the answer is no - unless you account for the self imposed one described above.

      Its not that Google does not like new websites... Google is by default prefers sites with ranked pages and an amount of history. Developing a new site you have to target terms that your site DOES have the ability to rank for... vs chasing a a term you think has traffic - that you end up on page 5+ and get no traffic from.
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      • Profile picture of the author VirtualVeena
        Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

        Google is by default prefers sites with ranked pages and an amount of history. Developing a new site you have to target terms that your site DOES have the ability to rank for... vs chasing a a term you think has traffic - that you end up on page 5+ and get no traffic from.
        Awesome info once again from you.
        But isn't it unfair how Google behaves?
        It means new websites have no chance?
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        • Profile picture of the author savidge4
          Originally Posted by VirtualVeena View Post

          Awesome info once again from you.
          But isn't it unfair how Google behaves?
          It means new websites have no chance?
          You are a boss and need to hire a new person to do whatever. you get 2 applicants 1 with 3 years experience and another with no experience. who do you give the job to? I am not sure unfair would be a term I would use.

          You have to keeping in mind we all are playing a game that has a set of rules. 90% of the battle is understanding the rules, and 99% have no clue what the rules are let alone there are any.

          Using the analogy above the rules make sense no? ( they do for me anyways )

          We have to remember that Google doesn't magically understand good content from bad ( unless it is duplicate content or there is not enough content - thin content ) what they do understand is what a end user does when they visit your content.

          do they click on your link and then bounce right back to the search results and click another link ( suggest the content did not answer the end users question )

          Did the end user goto your page and come back to the serps and type a more refined search term? (this is not as bad as the first - but still shows that your content could be better )

          and then we have the end user clicking on your content reading it and either buying or moving on and not coming back to search. ( this last example is an indicator of good content. )

          If your page is stuck on page 5 or 8 or page 30 the chances you have to prove to Google that your content is good becomes slim to none.

          Now, understanding this, and understanding the rules a bit.. does it not make sense to provide content that WILL rank in a position that will get clicks - even if its only 10 clicks a month and let the end user determine the value of your sites content? THIS is playing by the rules and getting ahead in the game we call SEO.

          The old "SEO takes a long time" or "Write for the end user" line of crap is exactly that - crap. That was started by someone that didn't understand the rules and simply threw their hands up in the air and gave up. And now like lemmings the herd follows - because guys like me that don't follow the herd are few and far between and more often than not when we speak we are thought to be crazy and full of BS.

          Google really isn't that hard to figure out, once you let go of all the mis-information that fills the internet - and its full of fake news in terms of SEO - it is a culture full of the blind leading the blind.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommen
    Originally Posted by Farmingstock View Post

    I have an affiliate site and the pages automatically generate from Affiliate window feeds.

    As the pages are just pretty much copy's from the OG products the SEO is pretty none existent and traffic is extremely low.

    Yesterday had one visit, this resulted in £6 commission but it was only a single visit.

    What can I do to get more visitors to the site? But more specifically the product pages to click through.

    Thanks
    The only way is to advertise more! For instance, you could start a YouTube channel and make informational "how to" videos about the topic. Another great (and free) place to get interested people to see your offer is Quora.com. Sign up for a free account and start answering questions.

    One thing I highly recommend you do is learning how to build an email list. Promoting affiliate offers directly, usually doesn´t work too well.
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  • Profile picture of the author million 31
    When you create a website, your site goes in the 'sandbox' in google a while. Google does not like new websites. Put some ads in facebook, google, youtube and also, Pinterest if strategically used can generate A LOT of traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author VirtualVeena
      Originally Posted by million 31 View Post

      When you create a website, your site goes in the 'sandbox' in google a while. Google does not like new websites.
      All new websites go in the Sandbox?
      Google does not like new websites? Why?
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  • Profile picture of the author Farmingstock
    Hi guys, thank you for the input it's much appreciated.

    The site has been around for years but I've done absolutely nothing with it as it was just a bit of a trial I did whilst at college.

    Anyway 2 weeks ago I updated the feeds and did a bit of tidying up here and there, the site isn't great but it's about as good as I can get it.

    Anyway in 10 days I made over £70 commission with only 1-2% rates and was getting sales everyday. Now is the 4th day I have had no sales at all.

    I'm not sure how to promote each page or add any input as each page is generated by a script or feed.

    I was thinking I could maybe mention the supplier and or item supplier for each menu, for example:

    If I was selling clothing (I'm not but as an example) and one of my menu pages was T-shirt I could list the shop suppliers and some information on them

    Shop A - bla bla bla
    Shop B - bla bla bla
    Shop C - bla bla bla

    Then also the brand within each shop

    Nike - bla bla bla
    Adidas - bla bla bla
    Puma - bla bla bla

    I'd only be able to do this on the individual menu pages due to the product pages being automatically generated and I can't do anything to those pages.

    Hope this makes sense? I'm completely new to this and it feels like I need to do the basics and on-site SEO first before I do anything else.

    It's strange how I was getting sales everyday but now none at all.

    Thanks again for any advice, I am dyslexic so please dumb anything down and if there are any useful YouTube videos please let me know as I find them much easier to comprehend
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  • Profile picture of the author Freesports
    When you join an affiliate program, the company often give you a lead to trick you into believing that you actually made a real lead.
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  • Profile picture of the author levandau
    There are hundreds of ways to get traffic without seo.
    Join the social networking platforms: group facebook, forums, instagram, whatsapp, ...
    Providing lots of value to fans, branding and selling without Seo
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  • Profile picture of the author Farmingstock
    My pages aren't being indexed for some reason, there are a few older pages that no longer exist and some products that are no longer available but with over 2000 generated feed products, none of them are actually indexed.

    I have submitted an XML and PHP sitemap and although they say successfully indexed the pages says zero.

    I'm sure actually getting the pages into a google search would be a good start.

    Any ideas what I can do??
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  • Ads would also be my way to go. If you're doing nothing else, nothing will come around.
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  • Hi, you are indeed lucky to have one visitor to your website without any form of promotions, I presume.

    There are several ways to drive traffic to your website and they can be done via paid and organic traffic. Paid traffic include but not limited to the usual methods like FB ad, Google Ad, Microsoft Ad, Solo Ad. Organic traffic which is free can be done through methods like joining FB Group of the same niche as you, blogging, Q&A portals, forums, Fan Page, etc.

    The above are some of the ways to get people to 'find' you and 'find' their way to your website.

    Hope the above helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author DURABLEOILCOM
    You need to get followers through Social Media like Instagram, Facebook. You can also place free ads on Craigslist. Make a YouTube channel. Advertise with Pay Per Click services like Google Adwords, Reddit Ads and Microsoft Ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author luciesmazanska
    Originally Posted by Farmingstock View Post

    I have an affiliate site and the pages automatically generate from Affiliate window feeds.

    As the pages are just pretty much copy's from the OG products the SEO is pretty none existent and traffic is extremely low.

    Yesterday had one visit, this resulted in £6 commission but it was only a single visit.

    What can I do to get more visitors to the site? But more specifically the product pages to click through.

    Thanks
    are you doing enough marketing? are your offers pretty attractive?
    I help people like you on a daily basis so I know this issue very well
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  • Profile picture of the author PatrickTaylor1
    Since this thread is under the beginners area, I'm going to assume that you're not an SEO expert.

    There is a LOT of great SEO information from some I perceive as very experienced SEO experts. What they are telling you to do is spot on.

    Here's my concern for you: If you're a beginner and just trying to figure things out to earn money online (whether as a side income or to replace your day job), you could get so bogged down in the details that eventually you just give up.

    The numbers are ridiculous--I've read that over 90% of those who set out to earn money online never earn a nickel...and most end up in debt after trying many different programs.

    Personally, I find that paid traffic will get you to the front of the line a lot quicker than trying to perform meticulous SEO. But then you have to determine what your costs per conversion are. You can't spend $20 to earn a $15 commission. Unless....unless you have a back end strategy that makes losing money on the front end profitable.

    From what you're saying in the original post, you're competing with dozens, if not hundreds of others for the same product. Is what you're selling your passion? Or are you just trying to generate some affiliate revenue?

    There is just so much noise out there, so many links competing for the same pool of buyers of relatively low-priced stuff out there.

    If you're competing on SEO or trying to enhance your standing through social media posting, it's easy to simply become an hourly employee in your own business. You can become absorbed in stats, standing, SEO parameters, Tweeting, Facebooking, YouTubing, blogging, that you're working for less than minimum wage.

    You cannot really scale SEO. You can optimize it, but you can't scale it.

    So, what I'm telling you is to:

    1) Work on your offer. What exactly is it that you are selling, and what would make it a GREAT offer, a great value (and that does NOT mean the "cheapest" price... if you're trying to compete on price you will lose;

    2) Determine WHERE your customer is hanging out. Who are your customers? What do they read, what do they like, what is their income level?

    3) I would focus on paid traffic through Google Ads, Facebook, or YouTube. Pick ONE and focus on it. (And I would get some good, professional training before launching these ads or you're just throwing money down the drain.)

    4) Your headline and offer is key.

    5) At the same time, I would be building my LIST. (Yes, the money is STILL in the list...even if the type of list is changing.)

    6) Regarding SEO, rather than spending months or years trying to figure all the nuances out, I would HIRE an expert to take care of it for you.

    If you're really going to make a splash at Internet marketing, you need to figure out your strengths and weaknesses. Especially your WEAKNESSES and delegate them. In fact, you should DELEGATE EVERYTHING! You must think like an executive. You need to think like the CEO of Farmingstock Enterprises. You are the ringleader, NOT the chief, cook, and bottle washer.

    I know at the beginning it is difficult to let go. Money may be tight (that's why you want to build something of your own, after all, right?) But you will be surprised what you can get done at some of these gig sites for not a lot of money.

    Anyway, I hope this bit of advice is helpful to you and that I'm not too terribly late to the game to be of value to you.

    All the best,

    Pat
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  • Profile picture of the author Sebastianrahaus
    Target your product pages with social media posting, Pinterest is one of the best platforms. You can also share images of your products on different sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Golabb1
    You can get more traffic from Facebook and instagram. I am using my girlfriend Facebook account to get traffic for my website. 4000 friends on my girlfriend account.
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    • Profile picture of the author luciesmazanska
      Originally Posted by Golabb1 View Post

      You can get more traffic from Facebook and instagram. I am using my girlfriend Facebook account to get traffic for my website. 4000 friends on my girlfriend account.
      Your GF knows about that??
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