What Would You Tell Him or Her

1. What was your goal when you started the site? How do you expect to sell 'make money online' to others when you don't make money online yourself?

What have you DONE to improve the site in the past three years?

2. If you are not getting results it is a result of either what you have DONE or what you have NOT DONE. Doesn't matter how many courses you've taken - the 'results' are directly dependent on what you DO.

3. The "SEO" thing is one of the most over discussed subjects in online marketing. It is not rocket science - it is not that hard to learn the basics. "Fearing" SEO is wasting emotional energy on a practical subject.

Nope - you have to create your own plan and challenge yourself. Again - what HAVE you done? keywords....content creation....videos....sales pages....???

After three years you may need to start over - or just to remake your site/plan of action and put some work into it. If you explain more about what you have done and your goals...members here can help more effectively.

I don't know where you're going with this, but I'd tell them to stop being a fraud. Anyone who's never made any money online has no business trying to flog MMO courses.

darn it, frank - I was trying to be diplomatic...


It is a vicious cycle that chews up bright eyed IMers hoping for profit. They fall for sales pages promising 'money for nothing' and end up promoting their own sales pages promising money for nothing.



In the end, only thing missing...is the money.

If you fall, it's because you tripped over something. It may have been wrong niche, wrong products, the content, the links/promotion, etc. no way to tell 3 years in. There is nothing wrong with falling or failing - unless you don't get up and try again.

BUT - Frank and I (both mods) are being honest with you. If you have NEVER earned money online...promoting MMO products is an uphill climb every time. We aren't making fun of you - just a reality check. Some will say 'just keep going - never quit' - and that's hogwash. If what you have been doing is not working - you need to change what you are doing.

Frank was just stating bluntly what I was saying in a more roundabout way. The competition in the (SMALL) MMO niche is fierce and you are up against sellers who own those products, have used and tested the products.

It's not just the MMO niche - applies to any 'specialized' niche like individual sports, camping or digital nomad lifestyle, animal training or care, etc. You would have an easier path if you could transition to selling products in a niche you know something about.

Wait hold on, a budget of $150? Lol go take venture capital, go get a job, tell me you dont like my tie but DONT TELL ME YOU DONT HAVE $800 TO MAKE MORE MONEY ONLINE

The MMO is not a niche.

Niches are smaller.

MMO for left-handed teenagers would be. Not a useful one, I'm not into mmo so can't give you good niches.

Just an example.

Notice that there were two words that narrowed down the focus.

You need to do some exercise research. Go to amazon.com. Click on a department, say home, garden and pets. (Because it is easier to focus on a department rather than all of amazon.com).

Click on one of the subcategories, say furniture (Because it is easier to focus on furniture than on the whole home, garden and pets.)

Click on sofas and couches. (Because, you know the drill.)

Now, come with a twist.

Sofas for small spaces is one.

Environment-friendly produced sofas is another one.

Then you create a site that sells such sofas. For which you write good copy (some story as to how you got to sell such sofas, or how you got into the environment-friendly sofas, or...).

Then you find a way to have your site seen by people who care a lot about small spaces or environment-friendly sofas, or whatever you choose to focus on.

It is simple, but hard (tedious). You need to know how to niche down, how to connect to the people who are buying whatever you're promoting, how to talk to them their language (one way to learn, is to read posts they have on forums and quora and such).

Once you've found your hungry crowd and know how to reach them, you find something that speaks to their hunger and present it to them... in their language.

You took courses, you learned... I have the feeling you learned a lot of technical stuff, not enough positioning and marketing or copy.

SEO is pretty simple. Go read backlinko.com on keywords and the skyscraper technique. Read Bruce Clay's posts on the silo method.

First and foremost, learn how to find a hungry crowd (in a niche, not a market). Then find how to reach them. (Where to advertise, what keywords to use, how to talk to them.. which means you talk to them or read stuff they post about the niche, its products or services, the problems they have.)

You can read some Dan Kennedy on sales letters and marketing (he's got books on these subjects specifically. The Ultimate Sales Letter... The Ultimate Marketing...).

Read stuff on this forum from Claude Whiteacre, from Savidge4, Gordon, Frank Donovan, Kay King, Jason Kanigan, etc.

Read Bkelley301's threads about his journey: https://www.warriorforum.com/main-in...ly-normal.html

That one gets a lot of people in trouble. The theory is if you just keep going....you'll get there. It sounds good so people repeat it ad nauseum.

If you just get in your car and start driving - will you reach your destination if you just keep going? Only if you are headed in the right direction.

I often recommend the thread below because it is excellent information - written by someone who walks the walk. It's a good place to start reading.

https://www.warriorforum.com/warrior...m-nothing.html

No problem - it's not easy to be told you are doing it wrong....but at least you are listening and that's to your credit.

I can recommend to get some coaching. It helped me a lot to get the right view and to not lose motivation.



But since you don't have the budget to afford it, you need to find help for free.

YouTube can be a great place if you are using it right and watch the right videos.



I'd recommend to watch videos about business mindset etc, it will help you to get clarity in your head about how to treat your business and soon you will discover better opportunities to work with instead of trying something which obviously doesn't work.

I would tell him to take that 3 years of hard work and apply it to another niche. It should not take you 3 years to make at least $100 online. Something is wrong with the site. I would ask for the link and provide some constructive critiscm. That way he can take the advice and what he learned to create a masterpiece the next time around.

A budget of $150 a month is not bad. Maybe try some of the smaller traffic sites to purchase targeted traffic to your site. Leave Google, Facebook and other big traffic sources alone for now until you build up your capital to invest in those larger traffic sources.