trying to switch jobs and into the online world

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in the middle of switching from construction to the online and computer world. gaming is what got me into computers an online i know a little about programming an coding an making logos and making websites i would like to know about or get into drop shipping or afflicted marketing or something like that but im not really sure on how to or what to do or what is best to do or easier to do. or if there is anything else to do that makes money all most right away or what to do or even look into for someone that is just starting out an new to it all anyone willing to help me out with ideas advice knowledge or that wants to show or teach or take me under there wing or show new thing im open to all advice or just a good word anything im open maybe start something in the gaming world or esports
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  • Profile picture of the author Serene Carmen
    Hey there, welcome to the forum. There's loads of experience on here but there are so many possibilities that you will need to do your research and narrow down your options based on what you believe are your strengths and what you would enjoy.

    Whatever you choose will require consistent work and persistence, there are no get rich quick options and beware anyone who promises you otherwise!
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  • Profile picture of the author Monetize
    You could setup a dropshipping business
    for construction materials such as roofing
    or drywall or whatever you would want to
    specialize in, but dropship is a pita so I
    wouldn't want to do it for more than a
    year.

    You could sell your graphics services on a
    freelance site or you could get into gaming
    but you need to figure out how to monetize
    that. Search thru the forums here for ways
    to earn income by gaming.
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  • Profile picture of the author TobiMDD
    Since you obviously have a preference for gaming, I would definitely do something in this field because you're doing something you love and then it will be much easier for you to be successful online.

    You could either start playing games like many others and then stream on YouTube but be aware that there is already a huge market for this and the competition is very big.

    As Monetize said you could also freelance and offer website services or graphics services on sites like Fiverr.

    Affiliate marketing is also a good option. You could find out which products you could market by searching Google.
    On Clickbank, for example, there is also a category gaming in which you can be active for different products as an affiliate.

    However you should remove your desire for quick money directly from your head because no matter what you decide whether for affiliate marketing or dropshipping at the end of the day it is a business and that means that you have to work for it and that it will take time especially if you start new before you see any kind of results.
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    • Profile picture of the author culpetm
      Originally Posted by TobiMDD View Post

      Since you obviously have a preference for gaming, I would definitely do something in this field because you're doing something you love and then it will be much easier for you to be successful online.
      YES! YES! YES! That is some of the best advice you'll ever see.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    get into drop shipping or afflicted marketing
    Do you mean Affiliate marketing? How many websites/blogs have you built and maintained? What I'm asking is this: what have you DONE that has utilized the skills you have?

    anything else to do that makes money all most right away
    That's not realistic - but the closest would be freelancing - if you are good at programming/coding or building sites or graphics....Hiring out your services may be the quickest way to earn $$$ but you need to be good and have the ability to attract buyers with bids and to work with them.


    Gaming is a rough one - there are so many experts in the field - trying to compete may not be practical as a plan for someone new to working online. No idea about esports but my guess is that is not a cheap online business to start and you didn't mention how much money you have to invest in a business.

    You need to decide what you WANT to do - what area/niche/method you WANT to work in. No one can hand that to you. I would not quit my job until I was earning money online...just a caution.

    I would advise reading the two 'path' threads below - some very good money making advice .

    https://www.warriorforum.com/warrior...days-ebay.html

    https://www.warriorforum.com/warrior...m-nothing.html
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    • Profile picture of the author Old Molases
      I agreed to what Kay said about affiliate marketing. You can only earn from affiliate if you happen to have website firstly related to the niche, secondly, it should be big enough so that people reach out to for affiliation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Handy
    Originally Posted by Money Staxs View Post

    in the middle of switching from construction to the online and computer world. gaming is what got me into computers an online i know a little about programming an coding an making logos and making websites i would like to know about or get into drop shipping or afflicted marketing or something like that but im not really sure on how to or what to do or what is best to do or easier to do. or if there is anything else to do that makes money all most right away or what to do or even look into for someone that is just starting out an new to it all anyone willing to help me out with ideas advice knowledge or that wants to show or teach or take me under there wing or show new thing im open to all advice or just a good word anything im open maybe start something in the gaming world or esports
    Yes, I also advise that you refrain from leaving your job until you actually begin to generate income from a proper alternative. I also suggest that whatever you decide to do, make sure that it's something you love and enjoy doing; something you are passionate about. . But I want to clear a slight misunderstanding concerning affiliate marketing:

    You don't need a website to do affiliate marketing.
    With affiliate marketing, there are two different routes you can go. You can promote affiliate products using your affiliate link directly, like doing a paid ad and placing your link in the ad, and send traffic straight to the sales page.

    The second way is to build an email list, which is by far, the most profitable way of doing things. This will make you a lot more money in the long run. Instead of sending the traffic directly to a sales page, you send it to a squeeze page where people sign up to your email list in exchange for a free product. They sign up, join your email list after which you can promote to them multiple products over and over.

    You do not need a website to do affiliate marketing although you can use one if you so choose. Most autoresponder companies provide landing pages at no extra cost.

    What You Don't Need to Sell Affiliate Products:
    You don't need to produce your own products.
    You don't need to be concern about customer service or product fulfillment.
    You don't need to own a website or even a webpage.
    It's simple and fast to get started.
    Affiliate marketing is peddling or selling other people's stuff on the net for a commission; an excellent way to begin.
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    • Profile picture of the author Monetize
      Originally Posted by Gary Handy View Post

      You don't need a website to do affiliate marketing.
      With affiliate marketing, there are two different routes you can go. You can promote affiliate products using your affiliate link directly, like doing a paid ad and placing your link in the ad, and send traffic straight to the sales page.

      The second way is to build an email list, which is by far, the most profitable way of doing things. This will make you a lot more money in the long run. Instead of sending the traffic directly to a sales page, you send it to a squeeze page where people sign up to your email list in exchange for a free product. They sign up, join your email list after which you can promote to them multiple products over and over.

      You do not need a website to do affiliate marketing although you can use one if you so choose. Most autoresponder companies provide landing pages at no extra cost.

      What You Don't Need to Sell Affiliate Products:
      You don't need to produce your own products.
      You don't need to be concern about customer service or product fulfillment.
      You don't need to own a website or even a webpage.
      It's simple and fast to get started.
      Affiliate marketing is peddling or selling other people's stuff on the net for a commission; an excellent way to begin.

      You can also forward your domain to an
      affiliate product. I have successfully done
      this but I hold 500+ domain names and I
      do things in batches. I wouldn't recommend
      this to anyone who only has a couple of
      domains unless they are attracting a
      great deal of traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Originally Posted by Money Staxs View Post

    in the middle of switching from construction to the online and computer world. gaming is what got me into computers an online i know a little about programming an coding an making logos and making websites i would like to know about or get into drop shipping or afflicted marketing or something like that but im not really sure on how to or what to do or what is best to do or easier to do. or if there is anything else to do that makes money all most right away or what to do or even look into for someone that is just starting out an new to it all anyone willing to help me out with ideas advice knowledge or that wants to show or teach or take me under there wing or show new thing im open to all advice or just a good word anything im open maybe start something in the gaming world or esports
    OK. First, you need more periods and separate ideas in your writing. Seriously. To explain yourself to other people and have them give you what you want, you must write more clearly. People should not have to parse run-on sentences. I'm not saying this to be mean. Clarity is important.

    Right now it seems you have a jumble of ideas but no strategy.

    Let me be clear about one thing up front: there is NO "easiest" thing to do or approach to take. Every single one of us had to figure it out on our own.

    Look around the forum. Check out threads and see what appeals to you the most. There are many ways to make money online: the internet is just a medium of communication. Newspapers were a medium of communication. Television, too. Nothing new here, really.

    But you must learn how to use it.

    What you need to start with is a clear understanding of What Problem You Will Solve For Others.

    Who are the Others? Who, specifically, is your target audience?

    What problem, specifically, will you solve for them?

    Are they willing to pay for it?

    People wanting entertainment watch gamers on YT. They are willing to put up with (and sometimes rarely even support) watching ads so the gamer can make some revenue.

    In this situation, Youtube is the platform.

    I LOLed at "afflicted marketing". That's certainly a phrase for it, yup. (Thank you, spellcheck). Affiliate marketing is a business model where the product or service being delivered is fulfilled by someone else. Hopefully someone who's good at it.

    Your job in that model is to get the traffic, ie. target audience people, to come over and look at the offer.

    Now you can just send one of these people directly, called a "hop", or you can put them into a warm up sequence of emails through an autoresponder. After the warm up sequence, then you send them on to the seller's sales page.

    All business... back to the time of the cavemen... works on the principles of Traffic and Conversion.

    You need people coming from somewhere. The sharper you can hone in on this target audience the better. This is Traffic.

    Then you need a way of turning some of the traffic into buyers. This is Conversion.

    A distribution channel or platform are key here. In the old days, newspapers fit that role. Sellers would put an advertisement in it. Assuming the readers, at least some of them, were a match with the target audience, some would come down to the store or phone in to the number provided or whatever method was indicated. Then the Conversion method would happen: there'd be a sales conversation of some kind and the prospect would either buy or not buy.

    It's no different today. You have Amazon or Facebook or whatever, and that's the platform. People are on there. It's your job to filter down and find the target audience for the offer you've chosen. How do you do that? A zillion different ways. No magic bullets. That's your barrier to entry as you figure it out, and your protective moat once you have. As I said above, everyone has to go through this.

    So check out threads in the forum. Look at the different ways you can make money online. See which contributors you resonate with.

    Think in terms of traffic, conversion, platform / distribution channel.

    WHO am I targeting?

    WHAT problem am I solving for them?

    Will they really pay for it? (Many offers are never going to sell: the seller put them out there without testing, because THEY like it... but you are not your customer--a line you will have to read and hear a million times before it truly sinks in).

    HOW will I capture those leads?

    HOW will I warm them up? WHAT platform will I use (eg. an autoresponder) to do this?

    WHAT conversion tool will I use to turn some of those filtered prospects into buyers? An Amazon product page? A Clickbank offer? Someone's affiliate sales page for a coaching program offer? Direction to a sales call, which you'll make a % off of if the salesperson can help convert that prospect?

    Are you starting to get nervous? Thinking that this looks like a lot of work? That you'll have to learn a lot of new terminology?

    Yeah.

    Internet marketing is a job like any other. HVAC guys who are at my house right now are in the middle of a 4-year apprenticeship. You'll have an apprenticeship, too.

    Beware of shiny objects and promises that someone makes that they can instantly solve all of your problems and give you The One Right Way. It doesn't exist. They're lying. I have over 10 years of experience making money online, and when I start out with a new-to-me offer, I have to figure it out all over again. Sure, I have structure and understanding, but the offer still needs to be validated. Traffic needs to be found. Costs need to be made to work.

    Right, let's talk about costs and then I'm out. It costs you some amount of money to generate a lead. If you pay for traffic this is clear. But if you do all the work in finding and bringing in traffic, the tendency I've seen from founders is to treat it as if that costs $0. Not true! That kind of traffic generation is probably the most expensive way you can do it. What's your cost/hour? At least $100/hr if you are a founder. So if you spend 10 hours hunting down a great coaching prospect, that's $1000 sunk in.

    Problem? If the coaching solution to their problem is only $750, you've lost money.

    If you're serious about making money online, you MUST get good at basic (very basic, IMO) math. If you're afraid of a little math, it's not going to work: your efforts will always be these blind lunges of faith and no skill that I see so often on this forum.

    This takes commmitment. Are you willing? Or have you been enticed by the shiny videos of Lambos and mansions... the lie presented by people who simply rented for a day--or even JUST STOOD OUTSIDE A HANGER and took a selfie with a plane and said it was theirs (true story)?
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  • Profile picture of the author wellnesszing
    Dear friend, after reading your post I can surely guess that you are a complete fresher - that you have also mentioned too. I want to share an important fact that it is not easy to earn money 'right away' from online business, as you expect. Even if you are planning to do an affiliate marketing business or drop shipping business you will earn after spending some time and efforts to build the site and traffic. I do not want to discourage you but I feel it is my duty to make you aware about the possibilities in Internet business. This will surely help you keep your expectations under control.

    As one user commented earlier, you can surely start drop shipping business in construction domain but again that will require the knowledge to build a website, promote it and then sell products online.

    All this will take time, so my only suggestion for you is - Do not rush, take some time to learn new skills in internet domain and keep a target of atleast 4 to 6 months (since you are just starting off). I am sure with dedicated efforts you will definitely succeed online.
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