Lost my job and searching for a business idea

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Hi everyone. Well, one month ago I lost my job.

I am now thinking, it's time to start working for me instead of working for others.

My main expertise and knowledge is related to nature, wild animals, plants and the different ecosystems (wetlands, woodlands, grasslands ...). I have studied in Earth sciences and Ecology so my knowledge on those topics is very strong. But I can't find any good business idea to help me earn some profit.

I am also excellent in writing in French and public speaking. I also have some good knowledge about wilderness survival and map & compass.

But I am also open to try something completely different.

Do you think of something I could sell?
#business #idea #job #lost #searching
  • Profile picture of the author jennykhan
    hi dear, it s a very difficult time when you lose your job. if your writing skill is good you start your own blog or website
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    • Profile picture of the author cashflowxplorer
      Originally Posted by jennykhan View Post

      hi dear, it s a very difficult time when you lose your job. if your writing skill is good you start your own blog or website
      I was thinking about a blog but is there a way to earn money in the next months from blogging?
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  • Profile picture of the author kursat
    If you want to make some passive income streams, you need to put time into it.

    There are many platforms like Fiverr, Redbubble and etc.

    You can watch youtube videos to learn and create free account. The more streams you have, the easier it is to make the first bit of money. Then just repeat the process.
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    • Profile picture of the author cashflowxplorer
      Originally Posted by kursat View Post

      If you want to make some passive income streams, you need to put time into it.

      There are many platforms like Fiverr, Redbubble and etc.

      You can watch youtube videos to learn and create free account. The more streams you have, the easier it is to make the first bit of money. Then just repeat the process.
      Thanks for the info. Yes, I am open to every opportunity, passive income included. I know that to produce passive income, I need to put in hard work before.

      How can I earn passive income on Fiverr? I thought that people on this platform have to be self-employed.
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  • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
    Originally Posted by cashflowxplorer View Post

    My main expertise and knowledge is related to nature, wild animals, plants and the different ecosystems (wetlands, woodlands, grasslands ...). I have studied in Earth sciences and Ecology so my knowledge on those topics is very strong. But I can't find any good business idea to help me earn some profit.
    I am also excellent in writing in French and public speaking. I also have some good knowledge about wilderness survival and map & compass.
    But I am also open to try something completely different.
    Do you think of something I could sell?
    You could sell your skills. If the link to usatoday doesn't work, search GOOGLE for 12 survival schools

    Article: Link removed, USAToday doesn't let you link to articles. But do google, and you'll find many survival schools. Canada is an idea place to have one.

    https://www.udemy.com/course/basic-c...chool/3807671/

    Well shucks, links don't work. But Udemy and other sites have COURSES IN MAP reading, compass and all things right up your alley.


    At least you brought something with you, unlike most new Warriors, who just want to get.

    So, my best advice, is GIVE what you know, convert those skills you already have and a little bit of time on Google and YouTube will yield you several niches in which you can jump right in and be an AUTHORITY. Use your authority to build your business around, to start with.

    GordonJ

    GIVE, then get.

    Not only wilderness skills.
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  • Profile picture of the author blairquane
    I'm thinking a blog where you can write about your experience. Given you have an in-depth knowledge on ecosystems etc, this could tie into a blog nicely. Making money from this quickly will be hard because blogs take time to get established and eyes on them. Could you get a job somewhere and build this up on the side until its making enough money to do the switch and work for yourself? There is no quick fix here, so you need to think with the mindset of years, not months and plan your moves carefully.
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  • Profile picture of the author prasanth1964
    Since you are good in French, you can try accepting a few translation jobs across the Internet. Search for writing jobs. Use your experience in the said fields and you can surely go forward.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Originally Posted by cashflowxplorer View Post

    Hi everyone. Well, one month ago I lost my job.

    I am now thinking, it's time to start working for me instead of working for others.

    My main expertise and knowledge is related to nature, wild animals, plants and the different ecosystems (wetlands, woodlands, grasslands ...). I have studied in Earth sciences and Ecology so my knowledge on those topics is very strong. But I can't find any good business idea to help me earn some profit.

    I am also excellent in writing in French and public speaking. I also have some good knowledge about wilderness survival and map & compass.

    But I am also open to try something completely different.

    Do you think of something I could sell?
    Could you help francophone firms in Quebec access English-speaking markets? Or the reverse, translating English into Quebecois French with idiom to help existing businesses reach new customers? Survival/outdoor/prepper/orienteering/gardening/beekeeping etc. niches all jump out at me as possibilities for you.

    Using your language/translation skills is a good way to create value and be unusual. You get paid more in such situations. And to find an existing business that already has cash flow, with the aim of helping them get more customers in a market they could not access easily without you, is a way of looking for clients that won't have a lot of resistance to it. They'll either be open to the idea or they won't...but they should be able to pay for your help, which is the #1 thing you really want to be looking for.

    I have discussed an outreach process many times. Have a look here. Do some googling and find some companies in a niche you'd like to work in. Look for 20 or 30 such companies. Go on LinkedIn and see if you can find their marketing managers. If the company has a LI page, you can click to see People who work there. Then reach out and have a conversation. I'd phone, but it wouldn't hurt to try connecting on LI first.

    The main question you want the answer to is, "How open are you to hiring an outside writer?", meaning outside their organization. I talk about The Danger Of The Two Sales, in which the first sale to be made is "Is this idea a good one in general?" and the second sale is "Is MY solution the best one for you?" People rush to the second sale, ignoring the first, and then wonder why they can't get hired. If they are open to an outside writer, then you can have the discussion about you specifically doing some work for them.

    What do they think about the idea of entering a new-to-them-different-language market? Do they believe it can be successfully done? Have they tried before? Do they have any prejudices about the idea?

    You need to be solving a problem large enough to be worth them paying your monthly bills. So if they are to pay you $2000 or $5000 or whatever, 10X to 20X+ that amount you want to earn and see that as their revenue target. Is there a path to them pulling in $50K+ per month because of your efforts in helping them connect with that new market niche? If it's a $5-10 product that's going to be tough, isn't it. But if it's $100, or $500 (say it's a specialty survival knife or kit) then that is possible. You want to know what their advertising strategy is going to be. You give them this engaging content...where are they going to use it? How are they going to get it in front of the correct eyeballs? If they're just going to post articles you write on their website and hope for SEO to kick in, well, that's a tough road and will probably lead to disappointment.

    You'll probably have to get 2-3 clients and keep busy but I can see this being lucrative (see my example in the linked post above). Up to you to put in the outreach effort to make things happen. Don't rely on some magic bullet to bring customers to you.

    This is one idea, and of course you could make money many other ways. For me, it seems the most solid. An existing company can affort you. Unlike affiliate marketing, you don't have to go find the end customers--they'll run the marketing plan with your content. You don't have to make or sell anything after the first sale to get the client--all you have to do is write, and that may be as simple as adapting their existing content to the new language and idiom to start with.
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  • Profile picture of the author Phillip111
    I would go with something low risk High Gain that involves a service something labor-intensive once you get good at it scale it up and then Outsource it. It's going to take you 6 months to a year at least to build a business like this whether it's Lawn Care window washing or anything like this. But you don't want to dump a bunch of money in a business if you've never had one it is hard to do if you don't have any money anyway. A job is a good place to start if you need money to invest.
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  • Profile picture of the author kilgore
    My advice: find another job

    I'm probably old fashioned, but I came up with a business idea before I started my business. I also didn't rely on a bunch of online strangers who know almost nothing about me, my skills, my talents, my interests, my resources, my networks (of friends, family and colleagues) to come up with my idea for me. I thought about what I (based on my skills, talents, interests, resources, etc.) could do for people in a way that was either better, faster or cheaper than what others were doing. I also figured out where I lacked skills or resources and found a partner who could fill in the gaps in my own abilities.

    I'll also note that even if you're ultimately successful, you'll almost certainly make far less at first with your business than you would getting a job. Being unemployed sucks. I've been there. And even in the best economic times, finding a job can be challenging. But make sure you're on solid financial footing first, then come up with a great business idea and then start a business. Don't do it backwards.
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    • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
      Good advice.

      And the idea of coming up with a business idea (and plan) first, is also good advice.

      We also don't know what financial shape the OP is in, maybe they got a severance, or have adequate savings so as not to rely on having to get a job quickly. And the golden key in this post is:

      "I thought about what I could do for people in a way that was either better, faster, or cheaper than what others were doing."

      If more Warriors started with this ^^^^ idea, and with a solid foundation to operate from, then they might get to their goals faster with less slop and mess as we normally see here.

      People come here and ask, where to start? Start with THINKING of what value you bring to the marketplace first, then begin your search.

      GordonJ



      Originally Posted by kilgore View Post

      My advice: find another job

      I'm probably old fashioned, but I came up with a business idea before I started my business. I also didn't rely on a bunch of online strangers who know almost nothing about me, my skills, my talents, my interests, my resources, my networks (of friends, family and colleagues) to come up with my idea for me. I thought about what I (based on my skills, talents, interests, resources, etc.) could do for people in a way that was either better, faster or cheaper than what others were doing. I also figured out where I lacked skills or resources and found a partner who could fill in the gaps in my own abilities.

      I'll also note that even if you're ultimately successful, you'll almost certainly make far less at first with your business than you would getting a job. Being unemployed sucks. I've been there. And even in the best economic times, finding a job can be challenging. But make sure you're on solid financial footing first, then come up with a great business idea and then start a business. Don't do it backwards.
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  • Profile picture of the author spartan14
    well earning online its not easy and i would advise you to search for a job because making a decent income takes time and its not easy as guru make it .Or at least a part time
    My suggested business its to learn affiliate marketing ,if you go to youtube you will find plenty of method on how you can earn 100$ daily but it takes time
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  • Profile picture of the author albertmelon
    You're talented and you have a lot of skills. Don't set the limit for you. It doesn't have to be a full-time job, you can try something on the side or become a freelancer.
    A report from CouponBirds states that from 2021 to 2022, the traffic to freelancing platforms is continuing to surge.
    Since more and more people begin to try freelance, you can look for opportunities in some large freelance platforms, which are more flexible and also can earn money.
    Of course, the first thing you need to make sure that you are familiar with the rules of the platform, at the same time complete your first task as soon as possible, so that more employees will be more interested in you.
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    This is definitely not the space to get into if you need money today.
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  • Profile picture of the author DorianSmith
    Originally Posted by cashflowxplorer View Post

    Hi everyone. Well, one month ago I lost my job.

    I am now thinking, it's time to start working for me instead of working for others.

    My main expertise and knowledge is related to nature, wild animals, plants and the different ecosystems (wetlands, woodlands, grasslands ...). I have studied in Earth sciences and Ecology so my knowledge on those topics is very strong. But I can't find any good business idea to help me earn some profit.

    I am also excellent in writing in French and public speaking. I also have some good knowledge about wilderness survival and map & compass.

    But I am also open to try something completely different.

    Do you think of something I could sell?
    Wilderness survival for girls came up in one of my search tools. Many survival courses for women online but not many for girls. I'd do some more research on this, but it's a start. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author WF- Enzo
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    Wonder if OP got started.
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      When are you going to get jaded and start assuming that OP's usually just ask questions, then disappear, never act, or argue with the advice?


      What kind of spirit do you have?!



      Originally Posted by WF- Enzo View Post

      Wonder if OP got started.
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      • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
        Originally Posted by DABK View Post

        When are you going to get jaded and start assuming that OP's usually just ask questions, then disappear, never act, or argue with the advice?
        What kind of spirit do you have?!
        Every once in a blue moon, there comes a new Warrior, who actually does want our advice, knowledge and experience, and this one in a baker's dozen gives us hope that we may actually matter.

        Yea, hope may be the drug of the optimist, but it beats dope in any form, even when dealing with dopes. No??

        GordonJ
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        • Profile picture of the author DABK
          Yes. But I see many become jaded. Wondering about others all the time.


          I seem to encounter jaded people by far. And get accused of being naive, not grown-up because I often look out for the 1in 100, and advocate for the 1.


          So, I wonder what's the difference between those who let themselves become jaded and those who do not.


          Looking only at me gives me only me.


          Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

          Every once in a blue moon, there comes a new Warrior, who actually does want our advice, knowledge and experience, and this one in a baker's dozen gives us hope that we may actually matter.

          Yea, hope may be the drug of the optimist, but it beats dope in any form, even when dealing with dopes. No??

          GordonJ
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    • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
      Originally Posted by WF- Enzo View Post

      Wonder if OP got started.
      Don't know if the poster did or did not. But checked his user profile a few times including yesterday. He has been logging in. When this thread has a new post. At least you know the alerts are working ;>)
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Fountain
    If you are good at writing, you can get onto freelancing sites set up a little operation and start churning out copy for clients. It will take a few months to build and get noticed, but once you have a few gigs of pipeline you can do well on those platforms. Especially if you make a video showing yourself behind the operation. People really respect transparency on those platforms. Personally I think a Blog is pretty difficult to make work these days with everyone's eyeballs on tiktok/youtube. I'd be more inclined to use your French skills to start a french SEO affilaite business, or extend your copyrighting skills to a French based Fiverr alternative - or set up your own!
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  • Profile picture of the author AmrBadran
    You can work as Teacher getting people to know about nature, You can do that through paid teaching platforms or via youtube.
    There is also Jobs like:
    Graphic designer
    Virtual assistant
    Freelance writer
    Copywriter
    And Many
    Good Luck
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  • Profile picture of the author parmarjeet
    Start working on online projects. Jobs are no more secured.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashflowxplorer
    Sorry everyone for the delay. I had to deal with some issues with my personal life and I decided to take some vacation before really starting to start searching for a new job and thinking about a possible side hustle.

    Originally Posted by jennykhan View Post

    hi dear, it s a very difficult time when you lose your job. if your writing skill is good you start your own blog or website
    Thank you. Yes my writing skills are good, especially in french my native language. I was thinking of starting a blog about nature, wildlife and ecosystems but what is stopping me is thinking that; am I going to earn money with this blog eventually or wil I just waste my time?

    Originally Posted by kursat View Post

    If you want to make some passive income streams, you need to put time into it.

    There are many platforms like Fiverr, Redbubble and etc.

    You can watch youtube videos to learn and create free account. The more streams you have, the easier it is to make the first bit of money. Then just repeat the process.
    Hi. I never thought I could make passive income by going on Fiverr ... How can I do that? The only comments I saw about Fiverr is that it's a platform for people who want cheap job for something more expensive elsewhere.

    Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

    You could sell your skills. But do google, and you'll find many survival schools. Canada is an idea place to have one.

    But Udemy and other sites have COURSES IN MAP reading, compass and all things right up your alley.

    So, my best advice, is GIVE what you know, convert those skills you already have and a little bit of time on Google and YouTube will yield you several niches in which you can jump right in and be an AUTHORITY. Use your authority to build your business around, to start with.
    Thanks Gordon!

    Apart from blogging about nature, I was also thinking of maybe blogging about wilderness survival but also how to use map and compass and wilderness safety and security in general; ex; what to do in front of a bear, how to deal with tick bites, toxic plants and fruits ...

    Another option I thought, would be to have a blog combining all those subjects relating to nature; wild animals, native plants, creating a garden for birds, bees, butterflies. Wilderness survival, map and compass ... But I also read a few times that the riches are in the niches so it may be better to focus on one idea instead of a few.

    Originally Posted by blairquane View Post

    I'm thinking a blog where you can write about your experience. Given you have an in-depth knowledge on ecosystems etc, this could tie into a blog nicely. Making money from this quickly will be hard because blogs take time to get established and eyes on them. Could you get a job somewhere and build this up on the side until its making enough money to do the switch and work for yourself? There is no quick fix here, so you need to think with the mindset of years, not months and plan your moves carefully.
    Yes I will have to find a job. The side hustle will come after. I am also thinking about creating a podcast but I can't decide which one will have to come first, the blog or the podcast?

    Originally Posted by kursat View Post

    You don't need to be self-employed as far as I know. You can earn a certain amount of income before it is taxable, but do check it out. Might be different for each country.
    What do you mean exactly? I am not sure I understand you.

    Originally Posted by jennykhan View Post

    fiver and freelancer are good platform for earning
    Like I said on a previous reply up in this thread, I always heard people saying that Fiverr was not paying much because lots of people are competing for the same cheap job. Isn't that true?

    Originally Posted by prasanth1964 View Post

    Since you are good in French, you can try accepting a few translation jobs across the Internet. Search for writing jobs. Use your experience in the said fields and you can surely go forward.
    Thank you for the tip. I will check that.

    Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

    Could you help francophone firms in Quebec access English-speaking markets? Or the reverse, translating English into Quebecois French with idiom to help existing businesses reach new customers? Survival/outdoor/prepper/orienteering/gardening/beekeeping etc. niches all jump out at me as possibilities for you.

    Using your language/translation skills is a good way to create value and be unusual. You get paid more in such situations. And to find an existing business that already has cash flow, with the aim of helping them get more customers in a market they could not access easily without you, is a way of looking for clients that won't have a lot of resistance to it. They'll either be open to the idea or they won't...but they should be able to pay for your help, which is the #1 thing you really want to be looking for.

    I have discussed an outreach process many times. Have a look here. Do some googling and find some companies in a niche you'd like to work in. Look for 20 or 30 such companies. Go on LinkedIn and see if you can find their marketing managers. If the company has a LI page, you can click to see People who work there. Then reach out and have a conversation. I'd phone, but it wouldn't hurt to try connecting on LI first.

    The main question you want the answer to is, "How open are you to hiring an outside writer?", meaning outside their organization. I talk about The Danger Of The Two Sales, in which the first sale to be made is "Is this idea a good one in general?" and the second sale is "Is MY solution the best one for you?" People rush to the second sale, ignoring the first, and then wonder why they can't get hired. If they are open to an outside writer, then you can have the discussion about you specifically doing some work for them.

    What do they think about the idea of entering a new-to-them-different-language market? Do they believe it can be successfully done? Have they tried before? Do they have any prejudices about the idea?

    You need to be solving a problem large enough to be worth them paying your monthly bills. So if they are to pay you $2000 or $5000 or whatever, 10X to 20X+ that amount you want to earn and see that as their revenue target. Is there a path to them pulling in $50K+ per month because of your efforts in helping them connect with that new market niche? If it's a $5-10 product that's going to be tough, isn't it. But if it's $100, or $500 (say it's a specialty survival knife or kit) then that is possible. You want to know what their advertising strategy is going to be. You give them this engaging content...where are they going to use it? How are they going to get it in front of the correct eyeballs? If they're just going to post articles you write on their website and hope for SEO to kick in, well, that's a tough road and will probably lead to disappointment.

    You'll probably have to get 2-3 clients and keep busy but I can see this being lucrative (see my example in the linked post above). Up to you to put in the outreach effort to make things happen. Don't rely on some magic bullet to bring customers to you.

    This is one idea, and of course you could make money many other ways. For me, it seems the most solid. An existing company can affort you. Unlike affiliate marketing, you don't have to go find the end customers--they'll run the marketing plan with your content. You don't have to make or sell anything after the first sale to get the client--all you have to do is write, and that may be as simple as adapting their existing content to the new language and idiom to start with.
    Wow! Thank you Jason for your help.

    I have never thought about helping francophone firms to enter the english market but that is something I should have a check. But I find it hard to imagine that providing a translation service is an unusual service. I thought that translation was very common?

    Originally Posted by Phillip111 View Post

    I would go with something low risk High Gain that involves a service something labor-intensive once you get good at it scale it up and then Outsource it. It's going to take you 6 months to a year at least to build a business like this whether it's Lawn Care window washing or anything like this. But you don't want to dump a bunch of money in a business if you've never had one it is hard to do if you don't have any money anyway. A job is a good place to start if you need money to invest.
    Thanks for the idea. You are talking about local service offering? If I had to start it right now, it wont be lawn care because in one month and a half, we are probably going to have some snow here I live in the north so. I will have to find another idea for now. An idea that I will be able to use without too much work from my right wrist because I am suffering from a wrist tendinitis. I hope that's how it should be written. So some days it's very suffering, others not so much. So physical work will have to take this into account because I don't want to have this problem for years.

    Originally Posted by kilgore View Post

    My advice: find another job

    I'm probably old fashioned, but I came up with a business idea before I started my business. I also didn't rely on a bunch of online strangers who know almost nothing about me, my skills, my talents, my interests, my resources, my networks (of friends, family and colleagues) to come up with my idea for me. I thought about what I (based on my skills, talents, interests, resources, etc.) could do for people in a way that was either better, faster or cheaper than what others were doing. I also figured out where I lacked skills or resources and found a partner who could fill in the gaps in my own abilities.

    I'll also note that even if you're ultimately successful, you'll almost certainly make far less at first with your business than you would getting a job. Being unemployed sucks. I've been there. And even in the best economic times, finding a job can be challenging. But make sure you're on solid financial footing first, then come up with a great business idea and then start a business. Don't do it backwards.
    Yes I am going to find another job. The thing is that I really don't know what kind of job. That is the thing that stresses me the most. Not knowing what I will do and where.

    Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

    Good advice.

    And the idea of coming up with a business idea (and plan) first, is also good advice.

    We also don't know what financial shape the OP is in, maybe they got a severance, or have adequate savings so as not to rely on having to get a job quickly. And the golden key in this post is:

    "I thought about what I could do for people in a way that was either better, faster, or cheaper than what others were doing."

    If more Warriors started with this ^^^^ idea, and with a solid foundation to operate from, then they might get to their goals faster with less slop and mess as we normally see here.

    People come here and ask, where to start? Start with THINKING of what value you bring to the marketplace first, then begin your search.

    GordonJ
    I have some money left so I will not have to take the first job available because I don't have any money left.

    Originally Posted by spartan14 View Post

    well earning online its not easy and i would advise you to search for a job because making a decent income takes time and its not easy as guru make it .Or at least a part time
    My suggested business its to learn affiliate marketing ,if you go to youtube you will find plenty of method on how you can earn 100$ daily but it takes time
    Thanks, I will search for a job but, at the same time, I also want to think about a business or side hustle idea that will provide me with some security.

    Originally Posted by albertmelon View Post

    You're talented and you have a lot of skills. Don't set the limit for you. It doesn't have to be a full-time job, you can try something on the side or become a freelancer.
    A report from CouponBirds states that from 2021 to 2022, the traffic to freelancing platforms is continuing to surge.
    Since more and more people begin to try freelance, you can look for opportunities in some large freelance platforms, which are more flexible and also can earn money.
    Of course, the first thing you need to make sure that you are familiar with the rules of the platform, at the same time complete your first task as soon as possible, so that more employees will be more interested in you.
    Thanks for your help. I will check about freelancing. Apart from writing and translating, I don't know if I can provide freelance in other areas.

    Originally Posted by Alex Fountain View Post

    If you are good at writing, you can get onto freelancing sites set up a little operation and start churning out copy for clients. It will take a few months to build and get noticed, but once you have a few gigs of pipeline you can do well on those platforms. Especially if you make a video showing yourself behind the operation. People really respect transparency on those platforms. Personally I think a Blog is pretty difficult to make work these days with everyone's eyeballs on tiktok/youtube. I'd be more inclined to use your French skills to start a french SEO affilaite business, or extend your copyrighting skills to a French based Fiverr alternative - or set up your own!
    Thanks. I will definitely take a look at freelancing sites.

    Originally Posted by AmrBadran View Post

    You can work as Teacher getting people to know about nature, You can do that through paid teaching platforms or via youtube.
    There is also Jobs like:
    Graphic designer
    Virtual assistant
    Freelance writer
    Copywriter
    And Many
    Good Luck
    Thank you for all your help. I will check any of those ideas.

    Originally Posted by parmarjeet View Post

    Start working on online projects. Jobs are no more secured.
    I know. Do you have an online project that you would suggest to start?
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      Yes I will have to find a job. The side hustle will come after. I am also thinking about creating a podcast but I can't decide which one will have to come first, the blog or the podcast?

      Podcasting is hard to get momentum and monetize unless you dominate with really great content which pulls in a lot of traffic. Personally, I've had more success with blogging and using the podcast as more of a lead magnet than the main form of income.
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        [quote=blairquane;11725899]
        Originally Posted by cashflowxplorer View Post

        Yes I will have to find a job. The side hustle will come after. I am also thinking about creating a podcast but I can't decide which one will have to come first, the blog or the podcast?

        Podcasting is hard to get momentum and monetize unless you dominate with really great content which pulls in a lot of traffic. Personally, I've had more success with blogging and using the podcast as more of a lead magnet than the main form of income.
        Ok I will start with the blog idea instead. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author onpoint
    I ran into Michael Cheney's 7 fig launch and then he has a webinar applying for a do nothing but collect money deal, catch? I see he has some similar other programs like partner & profit and 7 figure franchise, etc. Do any of you happen to have any insight on anyone happy with joining him, etc?

    OP: If legit maybe you can do this while working at a job? I'm old and looking to get back into IM since retired and on a small fixed income.

    Appreciate all input for the OP and myself!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    We've had several members recently posting they are 'trying again' or 'giving IM another shot' or 'getting back into internet marketing'...so why buy MMO 'products' and do the same thing that didn't work before?

    Keep in mind - those products telling others how to 'make money online' or 'make money fast' - or 'make big money easy'....are being sold by 'internet marketers' - that is THEIR online business.

    You can start a profitable business online with very little money - and can learn everything you need to know online. This is more true than at any other time in IM - the free resources/training available online are amazing.

    Reading sales pages for 'make money online' products is an expensive proposition - those gurus spend a lot money hiring copywriters that sell the dreams.


    Edit: I am not reviewing or dissing the offers mentioned above - but we don't promote launches here except in paid ads in the Classified (Underground) section - and don't review them except in the 'review' section. That anyone would take seriously a 'do nothing and collect money' ad line boggles my mind, but that's just me.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashflowxplorer
    Originally Posted by onpoint View Post

    I ran into Michael Cheney's 7 fig launch and then he has a webinar applying for a do nothing but collect money deal, catch? I see he has some similar other programs like partner & profit and 7 figure franchise, etc. Do any of you happen to have any insight on anyone happy with joining him, etc?

    OP: If legit maybe you can do this while working at a job? I'm old and looking to get back into IM since retired and on a small fixed income.

    Appreciate all input for the OP and myself!
    Thanks for the suggestions but no. I have heard enough bad stories about internet marketing like Amway ... It always look like a pyramidal schemes.
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    • Profile picture of the author WF- Enzo
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      Yes they're essentially Ponzi schemes

      Originally Posted by cashflowxplorer View Post

      Thanks for the suggestions but no. I have heard enough bad stories about internet marketing like Amway ... It always look like a pyramidal schemes.
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    Amway is MLM, direct sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author chuckholmes
    Best thing to do is get another job and start a "part-time" business on the side. That way your bills are paid and the financial pressure is gone. Most new businesses take one to three years to make ANY profit. The last thing you want is to be homeless and starve while you are building your business. Just my two cents.
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    • Profile picture of the author cashflowxplorer
      Originally Posted by chuckholmes View Post

      Best thing to do is get another job and start a "part-time" business on the side. That way your bills are paid and the financial pressure is gone. Most new businesses take one to three years to make ANY profit. The last thing you want is to be homeless and starve while you are building your business. Just my two cents.
      I agree 100% with you. I am searching for a new job but I am also searching for an idea that will provide me with some income in the next months. Not a lot of income but some income would be very encouraging.
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      • Profile picture of the author DABK
        You can trade time (and physical presence for money), as in winter's coming, people with swimming pools might be wanting help getting the pool ready for winter.


        You can sell someone else's product (as an affiliate marketer, as a dropshipper).


        You can sell your own products. Lessons on Udemy, informational products (you can sell those on your blog and other people's sites... or little sites you create just to sell that product).


        Blogging and podcasts, typically, take a long time to get going.


        The other things are faster... Given that you already have some specialized skills and are good at writing, even creating your own product will not take you that long. Selling it might, if you're not good at it.



        You also have the option to do joint ventures with someone for whom your skills/knowledge is interesting because it adds (does not compete) with what they sell.


        You could consider approaching owners of sites that sell products wilderness people (campers, the world-is-coming-to-an-end-and-I-need-me-a-bunker people) articles on topics that will help their blogs (visitors)... Don't touch that pretty flower, you'll itch like hell for 30 days, kind of articles.


        These require you to be able to talk to the site owner/ manager... which requires effort, convince them of your writing skills (so you'd be well advised to have a couple of samples ready... preferably on a site you own and on freelancer and other such sites) and accept a price they're willing to pay. Not every one will want to pay you well-enough... Some do.


        You can, of course, just accept to get hired through the freelancer and such platforms... but you get 'there' faster if you take a more involved approach.



        Originally Posted by cashflowxplorer View Post

        I agree 100% with you. I am searching for a new job but I am also searching for an idea that will provide me with some income in the next months. Not a lot of income but some income would be very encouraging.
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      • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
        Originally Posted by cashflowxplorer View Post

        I agree 100% with you. I am searching for a new job but I am also searching for an idea that will provide me with some income in the next months. Not a lot of income but some income would be very encouraging.
        Dear cashflowexplorer,

        You've been adrift, or set free if that is a preference, from an anchoring job for 43 days now, and have taken some time off, a bit of a vacation, which may have helped clear your head.

        And you are searching, still exploring IDEAS, right?

        My questions are, have you organized these ideas, eliminated some, put some on a possible list and then ranked them in order of your personal preference?

        Now, I am not in any way trying to incite, or anger you, just wondering what money making action you have taken over the last month, and what do you think is out there that has not already been suggested here or wherever else you are looking?

        You came to us with some very USEFUL skills, knowledge and expertise...it seems you are struggling with how to best monitize these, is this right or am I way off base?

        It is easy to find Warriors who have been at this thing for Years, without any success or results...far to easy in my opinion.

        It is also easy to find Warriors who just jump right in the water, and some of them hit their heads on the buried rocks or drown quickly.

        There is a balance between planning, which I am big on, vs ACTION, which has to happen to take you down the road.

        I hope you will receive this as it is intended, to get you in motion, OK?

        Why not take 30 mins a day and translate your survival skills into French, just talk into your phone, or on an app. Just go ahead and begin to build audio files in French.

        Then for 30 mins a day, WRITE, because you have that skill also, and as one of the very good Warriors to follow, savidge4, might say, DOCUMENT your process. Just from this thread alone you could create a quick little White Paper, HOTSHEET, or specialty report on SEARCHING FOR THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITY.

        Now, maybe you have been doing this all along, I have no idea....my concern for Warriors is TIME. I've seen too many Warriors turn 43 days into 6 months, and 6 months into years later.

        SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS IN THE DIRECTION OF YOUR GOALS is really all I am saying and beware of

        HOW MUCH TIME

        is passing every day you search, seek and hunt, while a little bit of that time daily can be used to create too.

        Keep us posted, will ya?

        GordonJ
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  • Profile picture of the author MartyTheMarketer
    Hi cashflowxplorer. Sorry to hear about your job.

    Did you find a way forward in the end? I think someone mentioned Fiverr already, but I could see you doing well with that and your set of skills. If no one mentioned it, Upwork is another similar service.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    I have never thought about helping francophone firms to enter the english market but that is something I should have a check. But I find it hard to imagine that providing a translation service is an unusual service. I thought that translation was very common?
    Possibly common. But has the marketing manager / owner of the company thought of it?

    Most people get tunnel vision pretty quickly. "We've always done it this way."

    You being the first person showing up and offering them this possibility may well result in, "Huh. Never thought about that before. Let's try it!"

    And while translation services are common, industry-specific translation is something else. Having an interest in the subject and knowing idiom is important.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashflowxplorer
    Originally Posted by DABK View Post

    You can sell someone else's product (as an affiliate marketer, as a dropshipper).
    Thanks for all the tips.

    - How do I start into affilate marketing? Do I need to have lots of people on my social media account because I don't have any and I don't plan to have a social media account soon.

    Originally Posted by MartyTheMarketer View Post

    Did you find a way forward in the end? I think someone mentioned Fiverr already, but I could see you doing well with that and your set of skills. If no one mentioned it, Upwork is another similar service.
    What do you mean by finding a way forward in the end? Sorry but my first language is french

    Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

    Dear cashflowexplorer,

    You've been adrift, or set free if that is a preference, from an anchoring job for 43 days now, and have taken some time off, a bit of a vacation, which may have helped clear your head.

    And you are searching, still exploring IDEAS, right?

    My questions are, have you organized these ideas, eliminated some, put some on a possible list and then ranked them in order of your personal preference?

    Now, I am not in any way trying to incite, or anger you, just wondering what money making action you have taken over the last month, and what do you think is out there that has not already been suggested here or wherever else you are looking?

    You came to us with some very USEFUL skills, knowledge and expertise...it seems you are struggling with how to best monitize these, is this right or am I way off base?

    It is easy to find Warriors who have been at this thing for Years, without any success or results...far to easy in my opinion.

    It is also easy to find Warriors who just jump right in the water, and some of them hit their heads on the buried rocks or drown quickly.

    There is a balance between planning, which I am big on, vs ACTION, which has to happen to take you down the road.

    I hope you will receive this as it is intended, to get you in motion, OK?

    Why not take 30 mins a day and translate your survival skills into French, just talk into your phone, or on an app. Just go ahead and begin to build audio files in French.

    Then for 30 mins a day, WRITE, because you have that skill also, and as one of the very good Warriors to follow, savidge4, might say, DOCUMENT your process. Just from this thread alone you could create a quick little White Paper, HOTSHEET, or specialty report on SEARCHING FOR THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITY.

    Now, maybe you have been doing this all along, I have no idea....my concern for Warriors is TIME. I've seen too many Warriors turn 43 days into 6 months, and 6 months into years later.

    SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS IN THE DIRECTION OF YOUR GOALS is really all I am saying and beware of

    HOW MUCH TIME

    is passing every day you search, seek and hunt, while a little bit of that time daily can be used to create too.

    Keep us posted, will ya?

    GordonJ
    Hi Gordon.

    You are right. I am still searching and exploring ideas. I have met twice a career officer and we are talking about different employment possibilities that I have not thought before. I see him again this Tuesday.

    I have also made a list of the different ideas members of this forum and other people gave me about what I could do.

    I have also subscribed to a business building course. In fact, these are ten workshops that will help me start a business (business plan, selling, marketing, finding a good idea ...). The course begin on September the 29th and it's three hours each week.

    I also have a virtual meeting with a lady that help people start their own business. The meeting is on Tuesday.

    I find your idea of creating audio files and writing about my survival skills. I was thinking of maybe starting a blog on the subject so, at the same time, I could learn Wordpress and build a website that will be mine. Not a Facebook page that belongs to someone else. I need to create content (audio and written) so I can sell this content eventually.

    I want to get in motion and I thank you for that. Sometimes I need to be pushed in the back

    My main fear is wasting my time by doing things that will not make me earn money.

    I have also subscribed to a stock market course, one free course for beginners and one for long term investors.

    I also forgot to mention that during my hobby times, I really love to build scale models of buildings, paint and weather them. Same things with tanks and other vehicules used during World War II. I am new into the miniature wargaming world and I see people that, sometimes, offer to other people to paint their miniatures. And I have seen a few of those miniatures and they don't look as good as mine. A few are better than mine but a lot are not
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    If you want to 'get in motion' - YOU have to push yourself to get started Meeting with career experts to find a job is your first priority perhaps...and should be if you need money now.

    You are signing up for business building and workshops and stock market courses.... The business course may be '3 hrs a week' but my guess is you will need to devote more time than that to actually LEARN what to do and master it.

    You have a large amt of excellent advice in this thread...two threads I would urge you read IN FULL are the tutorials below.

    https://www.warriorforum.com/beginne...rs-2020-a.html

    https://www.warriorforum.com/offline...ting-plan.html

    This thread is six weeks old - you've had time to learn by reading threads here - to investigate various ideas suggested here. At some point YOU have to decide what you will do, put a plan together and start working on it.

    Unless something has changed, you've been out of work for more than 2 months now. If finances are your main concern, finding a reliable job should be your priority. Many of us here started working online in our spare time WHILE working full time jobs to pay the bills.
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  • Profile picture of the author phpnetpro
    It sounds like for immediate income, writing and/or translation jobs may be best. There should be a decent demand for French / English work that could help you start earning right away.

    For writing work: Upwork, Medium, TranscribeMe
    For translation work: Rev, Appen, Lionbridge, WordLingo, LanguageLine

    Long-term, I would recommend trying to build your own website and start a blog of some kind (using WordPress is best). Make sure that your niche is in demand and also consider how you're monetize it before you start creating it. This can often take 6-24 months to really make it into something successful that is earning a decent amount of money, so you can't depend on it for full-time work immediately (you could build it on the side while you do paid writing work though).
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    • Profile picture of the author cashflowxplorer
      Originally Posted by phpnetpro View Post

      It sounds like for immediate income, writing and/or translation jobs may be best. There should be a decent demand for French / English work that could help you start earning right away.

      For writing work: Upwork, Medium, TranscribeMe
      For translation work: Rev, Appen, Lionbridge, WordLingo, LanguageLine

      Long-term, I would recommend trying to build your own website and start a blog of some kind (using WordPress is best). Make sure that your niche is in demand and also consider how you're monetize it before you start creating it. This can often take 6-24 months to really make it into something successful that is earning a decent amount of money, so you can't depend on it for full-time work immediately (you could build it on the side while you do paid writing work though).
      Last week, I met with a woman who specializes in helping new entrepreneurs. She told me that writing, proofreading and translation is very overcrowded and that I may have to find another niche.
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      • Profile picture of the author DABK
        Nah.

        You need to understand niches.

        Proofreading in general, yes. Proofreading mechanical engineering stuff?

        Translating legal texts from Tagalog to English?

        Originally Posted by cashflowxplorer View Post

        Last week, I met with a woman who specializes in helping new entrepreneurs. She told me that writing, proofreading and translation is very overcrowded and that I may have to find another niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    You seem to abandon one idea after another - without ever TRYING anything.


    No matter what you decide to do - if you ask enough people someone will tell you it is 'overcrowded' - or 'not profitable enough' or will give you THEIR idea of how someone should get started.


    Eventually you will get a job - or you won't. You will start an online blog, business or service, or you won't.


    Not sure how helpful this 'woman' was if you only learn what she thinks WON'T work - what did she suggest you DO?
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  • Profile picture of the author vallim
    In my opinion, go find a similar job first. Then find an idea and work on it. If you succeed, resign from your job and focus on your idea all the time.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashflowxplorer
    Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

    You seem to abandon one idea after another - without ever TRYING anything.

    No matter what you decide to do - if you ask enough people someone will tell you it is 'overcrowded' - or 'not profitable enough' or will give you THEIR idea of how someone should get started.

    Eventually you will get a job - or you won't. You will start an online blog, business or service, or you won't.

    Not sure how helpful this 'woman' was if you only learn what she thinks WON'T work - what did she suggest you DO?
    You are right. I am a little like that, not sure where to go and fearful if something I have worked on for a while doesn't work.

    Right now, I am working on a list of all suggestions of jobs or business ideas that people have given me. I will put them in order of wether I would like to do this or not. After that, I will try to focus on one of those ideas until it works.

    Originally Posted by DABK View Post

    Nah.

    You need to understand niches.

    Proofreading in general, yes. Proofreading mechanical engineering stuff?

    Translating legal texts from Tagalog to English?
    Ok I understand. I know nothing about medical, legal or engineering stuff but I know a lot about nature, outdoor, wilderness survival and map and compass.

    Originally Posted by vallim View Post

    In my opinion, go find a similar job first. Then find an idea and work on it. If you succeed, resign from your job and focus on your idea all the time.
    Thanks for the tip.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Right now, I am working on a list of all suggestions of jobs or business ideas that people have given me. I will put them in order of wether I would like to do this or not. After that, I will try to focus on one of those ideas until it works.

    When you have a problem making firm decisions you need to be aware of the problem. Nothing wrong with making a list and narrowing it down.


    But - be cautious of spending endless time getting ready to get ready to prepare to potentially 'do something'. Procrastination is human nature - some of us have to fight it more than others.
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    • Profile picture of the author cashflowxplorer
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      But - be cautious of spending endless time getting ready to get ready to prepare to potentially 'do something'. Procrastination is human nature - some of us have to fight it more than others.
      I completely agree with you. I need to be cautious not to spend too much time thinking and not spending too much time doing. Thanks.
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  • Look into work from home jobs, that compliment your skills. If youre good on computers, social media etc then lots of free lance jobs going
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  • Profile picture of the author Ged3
    Hi,


    I am sorry you have lost your job, but you have many skills and I think that things are very positive for you as you are willing to try something new - being adaptable today is very important and can keep money rolling in for you.


    As you have good writing skills you may consider being a Ghost Writer


    There are plenty of opportunities for anyone who wants to become a ghostwriter. As a ghostwriter, you are simply given the job of writing the content that other people either don't want to do or don't have the time to write.

    You will be given a task with an outline or summary that gives you an idea of what you have to write. And then it is up to you to fulfill your client's vision. There are many different types of content available for ghostwriters.

    You could be writing content for emails, websites, blog posts, eBooks, social media posts, press releases, and more. Brands trust you to write in a professional voice, since your writing will reflect on the brand.

    Try writing a few samples so that you don't have an empty portfolio. These can be basic ideas, as long as they show off how you write in terms of quality and style. Once you have a few things in your portfolio, you can sign up for some freelance platforms.

    Upwork and Fiverr are typically the most popular options for ghostwriters. Make sure to include as much information as you can on your profile. This should include how much you want to be paid, what types of ghostwriting jobs you are searching for, and your experience and education.

    Once your profile is set up, you can start applying for different jobs that are listed that fit your interests and skills. You can also launch your own ghostwriting website to get direct jobs so the platforms don't take a cut, and you'll begin getting jobs as positive word of mouth spreads about your quality.



    Hope this helps.


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  • You can offer some writing gigs in French on Fiverr. You can write a course on public speaking and offer it on your own website, or Kindle/Smashwords. Or put together a public speaking profile about yourself and offer public speaking consulting advice public speakers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Davids22
    If you enjoy what you are an expert in, start creating content for it on TikTok/Facebook Reels/Youtube Shorts + monetize it with patreon.

    People also love survival content btw, and there are enough affiliate products in combination with that to monetize with as well.



    Originally Posted by cashflowxplorer View Post

    Hi everyone. Well, one month ago I lost my job.

    I am now thinking, it's time to start working for me instead of working for others.

    My main expertise and knowledge is related to nature, wild animals, plants and the different ecosystems (wetlands, woodlands, grasslands ...). I have studied in Earth sciences and Ecology so my knowledge on those topics is very strong. But I can't find any good business idea to help me earn some profit.

    I am also excellent in writing in French and public speaking. I also have some good knowledge about wilderness survival and map & compass.

    But I am also open to try something completely different.

    Do you think of something I could sell?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ged3
    Hi,


    Yes if you enjoy the TikTok platform video content has grown more popular recently, which is mainly due to TikTok's rise in popularity. A lot of creators gain their influence by frequently posting on YouTube and TikTok.

    Video content allows influencers to show more emotion and passion, while also showcasing different niches, like fashion or DIYs. Once your client has pressed record and created some videos that can go together nicely, it is up to you to edit and polish them so that each video is appealing and runs smoothly.

    You may have to edit out pauses in your client's talking, and any other noises that may interrupt things. You may need to find good background music and add aesthetic text to go with each video, depending on what your client wants.

    There are plenty of video editing tools that you can choose to download, and some are even free. Before you start applying for these jobs, you may want to consider messing around on the apps you use so that you are fully experienced and prepared.

    If your customer allows it, you may even be able to provide contact information for your services at the end of a video, or in its description. This is a great way to show off your work and gain potential customers.


    Kind Regard
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