[WTH] need a good copywriter

Well yes. This is a good place. At least to see copywriters interacting. Oh, and by the way- you might not need to pay even those $120 to hire a copywriter.

BTW- what's the copywriter supposed to do? Only seventeen sales letters and 219 autoresponders... And you are willing to pay a whopping $120 for that! ?

Man, you are generous!!!

-I'd be wil.ling to do it. Time frame is almost instantly delivered in an eternity.

Oh yeah...

I forgot to mention- The deal has to be international even if you take royalties on the sales... I'll pay you like 10% of all the sales. Cool? But the deal must be international. Period.

Good copywriters cost thousands.

You may be able to find a new copywriter who doesn't know he's good, but the chances are very low. A copywriter who would work for $120 is almost certainly a complete waste of your money.

Hi,

I recognize that $120 represents a serious amount of money in different cultures and even to some people here in the U.S. And I congratulate you for wanting to invest that amount of money into something that has has the possibility of generating a huge return for you. So, I'll tell you what...

You take that $120 and go to Kiva - Loans that change lives. That's a web site that runs a micro loan program for disadvantaged people who have a business idea and need money to get it off the ground. Spread that $120 around to 5 different people there who have business ideas you like. You can lend $25 minimum, so you'll have to raise your copywriting budget to $125.

Then, send me the email you receive when you make each of those loans. I know exactly what those emails look like and what they should say. Send me proof that you loaned $125 out through kiva and I'll write your sales letter for you in return.

Send me a PM if you are interested and I'll send you a questionnaire about your product so I can get into your head.

Let me know what you think.

Regards,

Lisa

Where you say that you want to hire a "cheap" copywriter.

You should take out the word cheap and insert the word "no results". Becasue that is what you are going to get is a no results copywriter.

Instead go to Amazon.com and pick up the book How To Write A Good Advertisement by Victor O. Schwab that will get you going and it will save you $108.05.

Take care,

Bill Jeffels

People don't understand me , I am not a native english speaker and this is my only problem .

The point of this thread...

There is no such thing as a "good" copywriter with "cheap" prices.

If that's your budget, spend it on something besides copy... Because I promise you $120 will not buy you a converting sales letter.

Argue with me, go out and prove me wrong.

Good luck,

-Scott

Then , How much for a good copywriter .
also i don't need a 10000% killer salesletter , This sales letter is for a membership website offering graphics

Well, that makes your job even more easy.

Remember - your sales letter doesn't have to make it into copywriters' swipe files.
It just has to convert decently and sell your product.

So first, write your sales letter answering these 3 simple questions...

a) What are you offering and how's it unique?
b) How can it improve your customers' lives for the better?
c) How to get it?

And then you can add some samples in between to show
what quality of graphics you provide them.

If you can write decent English, then it not being your first
language is also not a problem.


Take care,
Dean.

Lisa's offer was incredible! Not many people would make such an offer!

In the Jewish principle of lifnei iver, if you enable someone to break the law out of ignorance (in this case, enabling someone to lend at interest), then you are responsible for the lawbreaking. And while Kiva do not themselves charge interest, their partners do... so it may violate Shari'a law to loan money to someone who loans money to someone who loans money at interest.

However, if this were the principle at operation, it would mean that no Muslim could deposit money in any normal bank of the Western world. All Western banks charge interest, and they do it by lending deposited funds. By depositing funds, you would enable them to charge interest, and therefore break Shari'a law by enabling them to break it.

So I don't think Kiva's really a problem at all.

Every sales effort, whether in print or electronic media such as TV or radio, has 3 basic things it must do:

1. Establish what it is that is being sold
2. Prove that it is better than the competition
3. Cause the customer to ACT or BUY

The first 2 goals can often be done with one single story-telling photograph, showing not only the product, but WHY IT IS BETTER. There are fancy ways of saying this, like 'demonstrating the unique selling proposition' or 'leveraging the product in the market stream' and so on. But, the basic process is the same. You need to rapidly establish exactly what you're selling, and then credibly and dramatically convince that the reader or viewer or listener that YOUR PRODUCT is worth buying. This is sometimes called a 'comparitive advantage' approach.

What's going on here are these internal processes in the target audience's minds:

1. They visually identify the product being presented, and reference internal needs or desire for that kind of product or service. If the customers do not already think they need the product or service, or cannot identify it from the images or words presented, the rest of the advertisement is not read, no matter how great your copy is, and no matter how wonderful your product may be.

You only have 1 or 2 seconds to identify your product accurately to the potential buyer. If they cannot tell what you're selling at a glance, they turn the page or simply stop paying attention, press the back button, and so on. You've lost them. Just a couple of seconds and that's it.

If for some reason you're ad or email is being exposed to an audience that does not already want this kind of product, then you've lost them. You will not be given a chance to give these people a religious experience, or to convert them into true believers or to create internal values and needs for something they don't already know about. The chances of that are so low and the price of success in that effort is so high that almost nobody can afford it. As a result, TARGETING your message to the right audience is extremely important.

2. Assuming the customer had identified the product, and assuming that they know they want it or may want it, then you have a chance to sell something to them. That's where your USP or product benefit or comparative advantage comes in. You really don't have to be the absolute BEST at anything. Nobody would believe that anyway. Just being very good, or even excellent at something that's desirable for a big portion of your audience is good enough to produce good sales.

Compare your product or service's features and benefits to your competition. List the ways it will help the customer. Show why it is a good or even a great buy for them, especially compared to known competing products or services.

That's almost it...

Now, all you have left to do is...

3. Give them a way to BUY from you. Put a button right there on the page that sells the product. Put a button at the bottom, and another back up to the top. Let them buy right now. Don't make them go to another page. In email, put a link to buy now at the top and again at the bottom. Buyers need to be able to take action, whenever they're ready to buy. Give them a phone number. Give them a web address. Give them an email address. Give them every way to buy you can think of. Don't be shy. This is where you make money. Make this as easy as possible.

Those are a few of the points to remember. I'm willing to help you, and probably within your budget. The devil is in the details. If you read the description above and want me to do this for you, feel free to PM me or email me. I'll need to know more about what you really want to do, what you're selling and how long I'd have to work for the money, etc. Otherwise, just follow my advice above and have fun. Good sales copy is not hard to write.

Good luck to you, and have some fun!

Thanks for all people .
Got a copywriter , He would do for me for this price [ as a help ]
He didn't want his name to be mentioned

Obviously and exactly - so yes my case was made in that point and with it closed (at least on my part).

Happy for you mate. Your budget is on the very low end but on the other hand judging by some of what I have seen going for copywriters recently you did well not to get ripped off. As CDarklock pointed out the odds of finding someone good for less than the thousand dollar mark is rather low. I'd add that the chances of finding a good copy writer merely on the basis of their own self promotion as such is only slightly better.

Sometimes you see people using thier price as a calling card for their expertise - don't believe it.

Listen, you won't find a good copywriter for that. You'll find the worst of the worst! So trust me, keep your money. Here's what you do. Find a really good sales letter site. One place to look is in "clickbank". Then click on "market place" the choose one of the catagories that relate to what your selling. Find the top selling item and visit a few of the sites. The best converting sites show "gravity" higher than 100. That's how you'll know it's a high converting sales pitch. Then you just reverse engineer their sales pitch. You break it down into parts. So where they have a photo, you're gonna put a photo. Where they have a testimonial, you'll put your own there. Where they have ad copy you'll put yours. And when writing it you'll just see what they say and rewrite it using your own words, your own product, etc. Chances are if you do that you'll at least come up with a "half decent" sales letter to start with. Don't plagerize anything, but just use their salesletter as a template to create your own. Good luck.

Did I miss something here?

-Scott

I wouldn't work for the guy, and I get the gist of the entire thread... I just don't see where "fraud and stealing" came into play at any point.

Then again I haven't read the whole thing, just glanced over it.

-Scott