The Lazy Man's Way To Riches

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Hi Fellow Warriors,

Many of you have probably already seen Joe Karbo's legendary ad, "The Lazy Man's Way To Riches":

http://www.teddersrandomnotes.com/bl..._Karbo_Ad1.jpg

I've been studying this ad for about a week now and I think that this has to be one of the (if not, the) best-written pieces of copy I've ever seen.

Look at how everything ties in together and follows logically. Look at how he turns what I suspect was a "negative" (doesn't deliver via C.O.D. or bill them) into a positive, and does so seamlessly. The last 2 lines (and especially the last one) are perhaps two of the most powerful I've ever read.

If I was around 35 years ago, I can pretty much guarantee I would have bought this. And I'm sure if this was "recycled" today in some form it would still work great...

Anyway, just my 2 cents for the day.

Regards,
David
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  • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
    Yes, that's an amazingly written piece

    Adverts in magazines and newspapers (the good, intellectual ones, that is) can be a great source for good copywriting - be it a headline or the whole thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Murdaugh
    Funny thing about that ad...

    He wrote it in one sitting, no editing, and it was one of the only ads he ever wrote.

    Classic.

    -Scott
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    • Profile picture of the author Raydal
      Originally Posted by Scott Murdaugh View Post

      Funny thing about that ad...

      He wrote it in one sitting, no editing, and it was one of the only ads he ever wrote.

      Classic.

      -Scott
      You beat me to the punch. This was written in one of Joe Sugarman's
      workshops, but it shows how your copy can FLOW when you write it
      in one sitting--at least for me it does. The letter is very natural and
      its real beauty is in the simplicity.

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      • Profile picture of the author Mr. Subtle
        Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

        This was written in one of Joe Sugarman's workshops...
        Joe Karbo wrote the ad in 1973. He attended Sugarman's seminar in 1978.
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        • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
          I too got the impression Karbo wrote the ad in his room
          during a Sugarman seminar.

          In any case, my impression of Karbo from the bits and
          pieces I've read about his life is that he had been successful
          in mail order for many years and probably written a lot
          of ads. Maybe not the full-page format ads though.

          I think he might have lost all his money at some point and
          the ad for his book about mail order helped him get rich
          again. Apparently the first printing of the book was not
          very good and he got a lot of returns, but the ad was
          a winner, so he improved the product.
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          • Profile picture of the author David Babineau
            Sugarman dissects this ad in "The Adweek Copywriting Handbook". As Mr. Subtle states, it was written in 1973 and he attended Sugarman's seminar in 1978. It sold 3 million books - anyone ever read the book?
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            • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
              Originally Posted by David Babineau View Post

              Sugarman dissects this ad in "The Adweek Copywriting Handbook". As Mr. Subtle states, it was written in 1973 and he attended Sugarman's seminar in 1978. It sold 3 million books - anyone ever read the book?
              YES, I am reading the Revised Edition with Richard Gilly Nixon for the second time and just
              finisehd going through the companion "Roadmap To Riches" workbook for the first time.

              IT CHANGED MY LIFE - (no bull****)

              The first half of the book is all about YOU, then when he helps you get your head straight,
              then he gets into the marketing of products part of the book.

              Best book I ever read.

              I read my declarations daily and do all the other stuff too.

              It wasn't my first exposure to this type of philosophy on self development (first learned about it in Napoleon Hill's Think And Grow Rich), but it was THIS BOOK that made me
              finally take action on it.

              My life is already changing for the better and what he teaches can truly help you
              get everything you ever wanted.

              I also have the original book written by Joe and will be reading that after I finish book 2
              of the revised edition.

              And that ad is definitely one of the best I've ever read. The person I bought hte book from
              on amazon included a copy of the original ad.

              Truly a copy masterpiece.

              But the book is even better than the ad that sold it.

              But more importantly, READ THAT BOOK and do what Joe says. IT WORKS. I doubled my income about 30 days after doing what he says to do in that book.

              Maybe it's a coincidence, but nothing happens by coincidence.

              All The Best,
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              • Profile picture of the author David Babineau
                Originally Posted by jasondinner View Post


                IT CHANGED MY LIFE - (no bull****)

                ...

                Best book I ever read.

                ...

                But more importantly, READ THAT BOOK and do what Joe says. IT WORKS. I doubled my income about 30 days after doing what he says to do in that book.
                Wow Jason that's an amazing story! Can't wait to read it...

                Judy - no problem


                For further Karbo reading here's an interview with him...

                The Lost Joe Karbo Interview…Was He Really Lazy?


                Cheers,
                Dave
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                YES, I am reading the Revised Edition with Richard Gilly Nixon for the second time and just
                finisehd going through the companion "Roadmap To Riches" workbook for the first time.

                IT CHANGED MY LIFE - (no bull****)

                What a beatiful story, i too have read Napoleon Hill and i am about to try and order the one you are referring too sounds really good. I am so pleased that it all worked out for you.
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        • Profile picture of the author Raydal
          Originally Posted by Mr. Subtle View Post

          Joe Karbo wrote the ad in 1973. He attended Sugarman's seminar in 1978.

          Just reread Sugarman and realize that Karbo spoke about
          writing the ad at Sugarman's seminar, but actually wrote it
          earlier. My mistake.

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    • Profile picture of the author erwindegrave
      Originally Posted by Scott Murdaugh View Post

      Funny thing about that ad...

      He wrote it in one sitting, no editing, and it was one of the only ads he ever wrote.

      Classic.

      -Scott
      Really? It was written one time sitting with no revisions at all? It's great!
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    • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
      Originally Posted by Scott Murdaugh View Post

      Funny thing about that ad...

      He wrote it in one sitting, no editing, and it was one of the only ads he ever wrote.

      Classic.

      -Scott
      Scott, did you ever read the book? I was around back then and remember the ad. I also bought the book.

      Before writing this post I dug out my copy of "The Lazy Man's Way To Riches."

      The first half of the book is about positive mental attitude - he called it "Dyna/Psyc."
      The second half of the book is about how to get into direct response advertising. There is even a chapter on how to write advertising copy. He talks about some of the ads he had written. He wrote a lot of copy.

      He was an advertising man who bought the all-night air time at a local TV station. This was in the days when TV stations just beginning to be on the air 24 hours a day. He bought the night spot, sold advertising, wrote copy, and put on an all-night program in which he did schtick and played movies.

      He then committed to a quarter million dollars worth of purchases when the station decided to drop him. The station figured they could make more money selling that all-night time to other advertisers, so the station management did not renew Karbo's contract to buy the air time.

      Here he was in hock up to his eyeballs. A quarter million dollars in the late 1960's would be like 2 million dollars today. He refused to file for bankruptcy, and instead, began researching how to get out of debt. He contacted all his creditors, and let them know they would be paid eventually, then Karbo began selling a book about "How To Get Out Of Debt."

      With that, the California Bar Association tried to claim he was giving legal advice without being an attorney. He won the case and continued to sell his out of debt info.

      A friend gave him a box full of peep-hole viewers - those fish-eye lens things you find in hotel doors or appartment doors so you can look out and see who is knocking on the door. Karbo repositioned them as the "Amazing Spy Scope" "See thorough walls, see through fences, see through doors." He sold-out of the viewers and had to buy more.

      Strangely enough he didn't mail to the list of buyers of his "Lazy Man's" book to sell a back end product to them.

      :-Don

      @wizard - A fellow named "Richard G. Nixon" (no relation to dead presidents) bought the rites to Karbo's book. He acquired it from Karbo's family in the early 1990s. Nizon then re-wrote the book to add some of his own infirmation to it.

      If you look real closely at the ad on that webpage, you will see the name "Richard Nixon" is also on the cover of the book. It's not the same as the original book. Nixon later came out with a workbook as a companion book the TLMWTR book.
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      • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
        Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post


        Strangely enough he didn't mail to the list of buyers of his "Lazy Man's" book to sell a back end product to them.
        This was one of Joe's mistakes which he readily admitted...he wasn't thinking life time value or long term...however, his "backend" for many years was his list, which was one of the first to be computerized and it rented over and over and over again...for years.

        And the money he earned from his list was, perhaps, greater than if he would have had a backend because he didn't have any fulfillment costs with it. But he did later wish he would have developed a "family of products" to go along with Lazy Man.

        gjabiz
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      • Profile picture of the author Rezbi
        Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post


        A friend gave him a box full of peep-hole viewers - those fish-eye lens things you find in hotel doors or appartment doors so you can look out and see who is knocking on the door. Karbo repositioned them as the "Amazing Spy Scope" "See thorough walls, see through fences, see through doors." He sold-out of the viewers and had to buy more.
        That made me smile - I remember the ads.

        Is that what they were? Glad I never actually went ahead and bought one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Murdaugh
    Never read it...

    But you just got me curious enough to check it out on Amazon, and it's got some great reviews...

    Ugh... Blowing through the book budget today.

    -Scott

    P.S. I'm talking about "Lazy Mans Way To Riches"... Not Sugarman's stuff, which is what I think leads to the confusion later in the thread.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr. Subtle
      Originally Posted by Scott Murdaugh View Post

      Never read it...

      But you just got me curious enough to check it out on Amazon, and it's got some great reviews...

      Ugh... Blowing through the book budget today.
      Dude, you really need to buy and read the basics FIRST before buying some $100 book that you mentioned in the other thread. Betcha every dime in my pocket that 5 of my top 10 list of copywriting books (see sticky) are going to teach you a TON more than that Garber book.

      I can't believe you haven't read Sugarman's book new for $15 or used for $10... and you're buying some $100 book that is going to rehash stuff you can get for under $10.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Babineau
      Originally Posted by Scott Murdaugh View Post

      Never read it...

      But you just got me curious enough to check it out on Amazon, and it's got some great reviews...

      Ugh... Blowing through the book budget today.
      Haha.. I've added it to my Amazon wishlist too (among with ~ 200 other books I have on there!) The annoying thing with living in Canada is that many of these "older" books aren't available to be shipped here...

      maximus242 --"I have first edition of Joe Karbos Lazy Mans Way To Riches. Its a great book, has a section on writing copy."

      Thanks for the feedback -- I'll try to get my hands on it..


      Back to the ad, noticed something interesting...

      You know how they say "talk about them" and not about yourself? Well, here are a few word counts on this ad (boxes excluded):

      I / I'll / I'm -- 48
      We -- 3
      Me / My -- 16
      You / Your -- 32

      So basically 67 to 32 or a 2:1 ratio of "forms of I" versus "forms of you".

      Now obviously this doesn't mean this works all the time but as always, there are exceptions to every rule. Anyway, food for thought...
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      • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
        well, it is conversational to use these pronouns a lot.

        There's a book called "The Art of Plain Talk", by Rudolph Fleisch.
        He devised a system for assessing the sorts of sentences and
        words that engage people's attention.

        In a nutshell: don't use abstractions if you want maximum
        engagement from the broadest audience. Use short sentences,
        use lots of pronouns and names. Have people doing things
        to other people, with other people, or have animals as named
        or "pronoun-ed" participants in the story.

        I wrote briefly on my Warrior blog, on a lark, about this a few months
        ago:
        http://www.warriorforum.com/blogs/lo...your-copy.html

        I haven't located evidence to support it, but I have a personal
        theory that hearing simple stories releases endorphins in the brains
        of most people. It may be a learned, Pavlovian reaction from
        childhood, of it may be something in our DNA.

        Along the same line some friends and clients will waste your time
        (they have mine) wanting continual support, encouragement
        and, basically, to hear other people speak warmly to them.
        Some folks like going to church for this reason too. They like
        to hear good news, spoken to them by somebody who seems to
        care. In writing this is a useful thing to be aware of if
        storytelling doesn't come naturally to you.
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        • Profile picture of the author Raydal
          Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye View Post

          Some folks like going to church for this reason too. They like
          to hear good news, spoken to them by somebody who seems to
          care.
          I happen to be one of those people. Never thought of it that
          way. I even speak the "Good News" sometimes.

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  • Profile picture of the author maximus242
    "Sugarman dissects this ad in "The Adweek Copywriting Handbook". As Mr. Subtle states, it was written in 1973 and he attended Sugarman's seminar in 1978. It sold 3 million books - anyone ever read the book?"

    I have first edition of Joe Karbos Lazy Mans Way To Riches. Its a great book, has a section on writing copy.

    Someone said its one of the only ads he wrote? No its not, Joe made his living in direct mail.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Murdaugh
    Dude, you really need to buy and read the basics FIRST before buying some $100 book that you mentioned in the other thread. Betcha every dime in my pocket that 5 of my top 10 list of copywriting books (see sticky) are going to teach you a TON more than that Garber book.
    I've read Sugarman... I've read most of the books in the sticky thread.

    I think there was some confusion, when I said...

    Never read it...

    But you just got me curious enough to check it out on Amazon, and it's got some great reviews...
    I was talking about "The Lazy Mans Way To Riches". Not Sugarman.

    As for buying the Garber book, he's a master of direct marketing offline... I work primarily online and feel like there's a lot about the offline world that I could learn from him.

    Anyway, just for clarification, I have read the basics. And I'd be the first to agree that people should read the "must read" books before investing in anything else.

    Peace,

    -Scott
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  • Profile picture of the author David Babineau
    Great insights Loren and thanks for sharing that book..
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  • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
    Originally Posted by David Babineau View Post

    Hi Fellow Warriors,

    Many of you have probably already seen Joe Karbo's legendary ad, "The Lazy Man's Way To Riches":

    http://www.teddersrandomnotes.com/bl..._Karbo_Ad1.jpg

    I've been studying this ad for about a week now and I think that this has to be one of the (if not, the) best-written pieces of copy I've ever seen.

    Look at how everything ties in together and follows logically. Look at how he turns what I suspect was a "negative" (doesn't deliver via C.O.D. or bill them) into a positive, and does so seamlessly. The last 2 lines (and especially the last one) are perhaps two of the most powerful I've ever read.

    If I was around 35 years ago, I can pretty much guarantee I would have bought this. And I'm sure if this was "recycled" today in some form it would still work great...

    Anyway, just my 2 cents for the day.

    Regards,
    David
    Yes, it is considered ONE of the great space ads ever written. Now this information comes from Harvey Brody, one of Joe Karbo and Joe Sugarman's mentor.

    Karbo liked to say he wrote it in one evening, and perhaps he actually sat down and did write it, but, it had been tumbling around in his brain for weeks. When he sat down ad "wrote" it, it only took an hour BECAUSE he had THOUGHT it through for long periods of time.

    Joe Sugarman put on his "seminar in the woods" about 7-8 years after he had atteneded A Harvey Brody seminar in S. CA. By the way Hrvey Brody MANAGED both Karbo and Suigarman's list.

    I'm just coming off a summer of intense study into Karbo and Bud Weckesser, another known genius for space ads.

    When Harvey Brody set up one of the first Computer Managed list service, Joe Karbo, Joe Sugarman, Gene Schwartz and many others used his service.

    By the time Karbo spoke at Sugarman's retreat, he had hit his home run, and was never ablle to get close to it again, his Direct Mail letters were quite good too. Joe Sugarman encountered the alphabet government and it was a costly experience for him.

    Many of those OLD masters have passed away or retired...funny thing, at 77 years old, their old mentor, Harvey Brody, is still going strong. Even Dan Kennedy givesHarvey credit for helping him to "see the light" regarding Safe Harbors and Toll Positions.

    gjabiz

    PS. Not only did I read the book, I bought it from Joe's office, and on the way out, I literraly bumped into Joe Karbo. He was amused I was so distracted with his book. We spoke several times while I was a student in Huntington Beach. Joe Karbo was a really nice man besides being an advertising genius.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Babineau
      Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post

      Yes, it is considered ONE of the great space ads ever written. Now this information comes from Harvey Brody, one of Joe Karbo and Joe Sugarman's mentor.

      Karbo liked to say he wrote it in one evening, and perhaps he actually sat down and did write it, but, it had been tumbling around in his brain for weeks. When he sat down ad "wrote" it, it only took an hour BECAUSE he had THOUGHT it through for long periods of time.

      Joe Sugarman put on his "seminar in the woods" about 7-8 years after he had atteneded A Harvey Brody seminar in S. CA. By the way Hrvey Brody MANAGED both Karbo and Suigarman's list.

      I'm just coming off a summer of intense study into Karbo and Bud Weckesser, another known genius for space ads.

      When Harvey Brody set up one of the first Computer Managed list service, Joe Karbo, Joe Sugarman, Gene Schwartz and many others used his service.

      By the time Karbo spoke at Sugarman's retreat, he had hit his home run, and was never ablle to get close to it again, his Direct Mail letters were quite good too. Joe Sugarman encountered the alphabet government and it was a costly experience for him.

      Many of those OLD masters have passed away or retired...funny thing, at 77 years old, their old mentor, Harvey Brody, is still going strong. Even Dan Kennedy givesHarvey credit for helping him to "see the light" regarding Safe Harbors and Toll Positions.

      gjabiz

      PS. Not only did I read the book, I bought it from Joe's office, and on the way out, I literraly bumped into Joe Karbo. He was amused I was so distracted with his book. We spoke several times while I was a student in Huntington Beach. Joe Karbo was a really nice man besides being an advertising genius.
      Thanks for sharing your story - that's amazing

      It also reminds me that I have a report from Harvey Brody somewhere that I need to read...

      Best,
      David
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    • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
      Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post

      PS. Not only did I read the book, I bought it from Joe's office, and on the way out, I literraly bumped into Joe Karbo. He was amused I was so distracted with his book. We spoke several times while I was a student in Huntington Beach. Joe Karbo was a really nice man besides being an advertising genius.
      That is so awesome that you actually met him in person.

      I want to thank him for helping me take my life to the next level.
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      • Profile picture of the author NyceGuy
        Originally Posted by jasondinner View Post

        IT CHANGED MY LIFE - (no bull****).

        This is just out of curiosity. How did it change your life, exactly?
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        • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
          Originally Posted by NyceGuy View Post

          This is just out of curiosity. How did it change your life, exactly?
          Hard to explain EXACTLY how, but it encouraged me to finally implement
          what I have read about in the past from other authors such as Napoleon Hill
          and Chad Helmstetter.

          And by doing so it opened my eyes to even more possibilities and keeps me
          focused on my goals and desires I want to and will accomplish in my life.

          It reinforced the importance of daily declarations and super suggestion.

          It's really all about controlling your thoughts and what you say about yourself out loud.

          Joe refers to this as Dyna/Psych and whether you know it or not, you are practicing it
          every day.

          Being aware of this FACT is what change my life and I am in total control of my thoughts
          and the words that come out of my mouth and this has made all the difference.

          If none of that makes any sense to you, then it's even more of a reason for you
          to invest in this book.

          Chances are you aren't where you want to be in several aspects of your life in addition
          to the financial side of things.

          This book can help you with that.

          A 30 second conversation with you can tell me whehter or not you need to read this.

          Or even just reading some of your posts can tell me a lot about you as well.

          Hope this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author zapseo
    Yep. Love the ad. Bought the book.

    Wrote it in 1973 ? Dang, could have sworn I was a teen when it
    came out.

    That ad did exactly what good ads are supposed to do: kept me up at night (well, maybe not at night) -- but it definitely did keep me thinking about it.

    And yah, both the ad and the book are great.

    I don't remember everything in the book (in probability) dang little.

    @Jason -- yup, Dyna/Psych, hypnosis, affirmations -- all great stuff.
    We don't go through life without leaving a trail. It's not hard to follow
    the trails -- unless people are trained in how NOT to leave a trail.

    Ah, fond memories.

    @OP(?): Thanks for the link to the ad!

    And about endorphins -- no doubt. Check out the fMRI studies that folks are doing, studying buying behavior. (And re-defining death, apparently! Separate study, but same technology -- I think that's in Deepak Chopra's latest book. About death, that is.)

    But endorphins don't necessarily relate to buying behavior. After all, laughter & humor are known to boost endorphins -- but that's not a good reason to use them in your copy! (Although sometimes people jump to similar kinds of conclusions...)

    Live JoyFully!

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    Yep, good ole' Joe Karbo.

    Good find with that ad.

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    How does the revised version compare to the original? Ive read the original and is one of the best books I've ever read
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    • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
      Originally Posted by MikeMarin View Post

      How does the revised version compare to the original? Ive read the original and is one of the best books I've ever read
      I've only read the revised edition (reading original after 2nd go around with this one)
      and found it to be great (see above testimonial in previous post).

      BUT, the first time around I did not have the companion Roadmap To Riches workbook
      which the revised edition pointed to throughout the book.

      Not having it while going through this version made me want it really bad as if I was
      missing out on something.

      So I found one on Amazon (there are usually only 1-3 copies available at a time) and
      coughed up $100 just to get my hands on it.

      THEN, I read The Lazy Man's Way To Riches again with the workbook close by and
      went through all the steps and that is why my life has changed and is changing.

      The workbook leads you through the actual steps Joe Karbo tells you to take.

      But you have to be ready for it.

      Don't buy the workbook if you won't do the exercises. Let somebody else that WILL do
      them get their hands on it.

      Good luck finding a copy

      Jason
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      • Profile picture of the author tdj
        Originally Posted by jasondinner View Post

        I've only read the revised edition (reading original after 2nd go around with this one)
        and found it to be great (see above testimonial in previous post).

        BUT, the first time around I did not have the companion Roadmap To Riches workbook
        which the revised edition pointed to throughout the book.

        Not having it while going through this version made me want it really bad as if I was
        missing out on something.

        So I found one on Amazon (there are usually only 1-3 copies available at a time) and
        coughed up $100 just to get my hands on it.

        THEN, I read The Lazy Man's Way To Riches again with the workbook close by and
        went through all the steps and that is why my life has changed and is changing.

        The workbook leads you through the actual steps Joe Karbo tells you to take.

        But you have to be ready for it.

        Don't buy the workbook if you won't do the exercises. Let somebody else that WILL do
        them get their hands on it.

        Good luck finding a copy

        Jason
        Jason,

        I have just read the book for the first time and will be going thru the workbook on my second reading. I got the Richard Nixon version 3.0 on Amazon for less than $20 used. It's funny how when I read the book the first time, I could feel a change in my mindset already. It makes you aware of the thoughts that are subconsciously holding you back. Great book!

        I actually came across this book reading one of Gary Halberts newsletters. He recommended this book along with 7 or other books on copywriting.

        Todd
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    Yes, Karbo`s copy is really masterpiece of copywriting.

    It is interesting how "lazy man" described his real life in `75 interview:
    "The idea of being lazy is appealing, but doing it, or rather not doing anything, is not my idea of a way to pass the time."
    Say no more. :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author wizard77
      I read that book around 40 years ago. Yes, I'm old. But it's one of the few books and ads I still remember. The book was a road map to self motivation and building a successful mail order business. Long since lost the book in several divorces and moves, but maybe I'll buy it online again.

      There's a site in Nevada that seems to be offering Karbo's products. Not sure it's still a working site, but here it is: The Lazy Man's Way to Riche$ | News & Information Homepage .

      The ordering/DL parts aren't working for me today, but the main site seems to come up OK.

      Good luck.

      wizard77
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  • Hi David,
    I want to thank you for resurrecting that old Joe Karbo ad. I made it a point to add it to my collection of powerful and effective reference material. This material is the best as you said.
    LLS
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