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Need Copywriter who want High Gravity Clickbank products under their belt

by WAmember
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I'm in need of a new up and coming copywriter who thinks they can make some good copy.

Right now I have a number of quick projects I need worked on and if you prove to be a good copywriter I have even bigger projects for you in the future.

I'm looking for a copywriter who's maybe still learning and improving but already has decent copywriting skills.

This will be a great chance for you to get a number of products to put in your portfolio.


Budget

Right now I'm thinking it will be most beneficial if I pay on a performance basis. By that I mean a percentage of earnings. I think this is a good way of doing things because the better you write the more money you can make.

Now this is really only an idea since I see a lot of good work done when people are payed a certain amount up front then get a %.

If you rather get paid in one sum that can be discussed as well.


We can discuss all the details through PM or over the phone.



Info needed

I want to know what courses you've taken for example John Carltons courses and Id like to see samples of any previous work you have done. Any conversion info of previous work would also be great but not necessary.

Job Details

We'll do it one project at a time although I have about 3 in total for now.

I'll need sales page, autoresponders, and some stuff for the affiliate/JV page.

I'll give you the details about the niches through PM.



If you think you might be interested in working with me and getting a couple high gravity Clickbank products under your belt just send me a PM and we can discuss it more thoroughly.


Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    "Right now I'm thinking it will be most beneficial if I pay on a performance basis. By that I mean a percentage of earnings. I think this is a good way of doing things because the better you write the more money you can make."

    Good luck finding someone decent who will put days and weeks into a writing project with only a chance of getting paid. There are too many variables involved for a writer (this writer at least) to take on a project on a performance basis.

    You could have the best copy on the planet but if your promotion efforts and traffic to the offer suck the writer loses while you have no risk at all. As for the courses taken they may be relevant and may not be. Courses don't make the writer.

    This part of your appeal really says it all: "Any conversion info of previous work would also be great but not necessary."

    Conversions would be great, but not necessary? When it comes down to evaluating a writer, proof of prior conversion rates are really the only relevant issue, not courses, or willingness to work on a promise. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised you get some takers. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Murdaugh
    Let me rephrase this for you from a copywriters perspective...

    Hello, I have 14 posts here and I'm looking for a copywriter who can work for free.

    This is a great opportunity for a new copywriter, because you can work for free. I am not providing any details about my ability to generate traffic, any prior success in IM, or anything of that nature.

    Since I don't need anyone with any actual experience writing my copy, I would like to know what courses you've gone through. I hope you have a friend who will let you borrow one, because they're expensive and I know that's tough to afford when you work for free.

    My plan for these products is to have you write the copy for free...

    1. You write the copy for free.
    2. I put it online.
    3. ?
    4. Profit!

    I know there's got to be a talented copywriter out there who knows how to write compelling, high converting copy and can't wait to get started... For free.
    Sorry if that's a little harsh, but that's how we see it.

    I wouldn't bother replying but after the "This is an easy job" thread and now this one, people need to get a clue.

    If you don't have a budget write it yourself. Let's think about this logically for a second...

    You want copy that converts, right? I'm assuming you do, 1,000 visitors at a 0% conversion rate is $0.

    Ever wonder why copywriters get paid well? Because writing copy that converts isn't easy.

    You may find a taker or two, but I don't see a snowballs chance in hell of this working out for either party involved.

    Chances are you're going to end up with "copy" that doesn't convert, and the writer who takes you up on it is going to waste days of their time for absolutely no reason.

    No offense intended... Just the way it works.

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    • Profile picture of the author WAmember
      You guys misunderstood. When working on a performance basis your given money at the start of the job known as a retainer then given more money as the site makes it.

      This is why I asked for anyone interested to PM me.

      Why would I ask for them to work for free? And I do in fact have money to spend on a copywriter just not the thousands that already well known copywriters want to charge.


      And the reason I said conversion stats is not necessary is because I am looking for a newer copywriter so I understand if they do not already have good conversion info on hand.

      Courses are important to me because if you've studied someones course like maybe John Carlton it tells me that you have learned the right teqniues and with practice you can be a good copywriter.



      Hope that clears things up. Sorry if I wasn't all that clear in my listing but I was tired as hell last night.

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author maximus242
        Ah FYI thats how every sane copywriter on the planet writes.

        Gary Halbert for example charged $10,000 upfront plus 5% of gross sales

        Gary Bencivenga charges $30,000 up front plus I think 5 cents per piece mailed.

        Almost every copywriter works that way. At least direct marketing copywriters do, internet is kind of screwed up because there are people dumb enough to work for flat fees. All the money is in royalties. You can make half a million in royalties from one letter offline.

        Anyways, any real pro copywriter works the way you described. Their fees are actually only there to deter people who dont have the money to make a huge profit off their killer sales letter. So really the only question now is how much of an upfront fee can you afford. That will determine the calibre of copywriter you can hire.
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  • Profile picture of the author WAmember
    So you guys can understand why I need a upcoming still not known copywriter.

    Now I have a couple side projects I want worked on but they are pretty simple and there is no need for a $10,000+ copywriter. This is the type of project I would write myself if I was any good at writing but I'm horrible so I need to hire it out anyway.


    So basically what I'm looking for is a new copywriter who will work for a much lower price since he's not yet known. This copywriter can handle all my smaller projects and if he proves to be real good he can move up to the bigger projects as well.

    This is a chance for the copywriter to make money while toning his skills and still get noticed.


    As you all know you can't charge $5000 - 10000 unless you have a couple good sales pages in your portfolio.



    Just trying to clear it up some more since I got a few PMs about it.



    I haven't completely revealed my budget yet since I don't want to insult anyone. But I'm thinking for a new copywriter without all that much experience about $500 would be reasonable.

    If your interested just shoot me a PM

    Thanks
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