Darth Vader was Gay

Rezbi

16 years ago

First thing I'd have to ask is... how do you know?

To answer your question, it wouldn't make me curious in the least.

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Davey T

16 years ago

It got me to click...

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Ken Strong

16 years ago

Unless your product is aimed at gay online marketing Star Wars fans, I'd say it's a miss.

I think you'll get some curiosity clicks, but they'll probably get annoyed when they see you're selling something unrelated.

How are you planning to segue from the head into the rest of the letter? If you actually had a story related to the headline that transitioned into your sales pitch without sounding forced, maybe it could possibly work. But I think it's a long shot.

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The Copy Nazi

Banned 16 years ago

Originally Posted by KenStrong

Unless your product is aimed at gay online marketing Star Wars fans, I'd say it's a miss.

I think you'll get some curiosity clicks, but they'll probably get annoyed when they see you're selling something unrelated.

How are you planning to segue from the head into the rest of the letter? If you actually had a story related to the headline that transitioned into your sales pitch without sounding forced, maybe it could possibly work. But I think it's a long shot.

Yeah I do have a story. It doesn't stand alone. Just trying to find the band that had songs like "XXXXX are gay" (XXXXX for the words I cant remember). Maybe a Chicago band? Point being that "gay" didn't mean "gay" in the usual sense. It meant "not cool". And it was very funny.

By the end of the 20th century the word gay was recommended by major style guides to describe people attracted to members of the same sex. At about the same time, a new, pejorative use became prevalent in some parts of the world. In the Anglosphere, this connotation, among younger generations of speakers, has a derisive meaning equivalent to rubbish or stupid (as in "That's so gay."). In this use the word does not mean "homosexual", so it can be used, for example, to refer to an inanimate object or abstract concept of which one disapproves. The extent to which it still retains connotations of homosexuality has been debated.

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tun80

16 years ago

And his kids were in love for two episodes.

Man, that's one f****d-up family!!

What about:

"Darth Vader was Gay...
But did Luke know?"

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The Copy Nazi

Banned 16 years ago

Found it. The band was/is called AnalC..t from Massachusetts

Anal C..t are often cited as having common lyrical themes that include misogyny, homophobia, anti-Semitism, racism and ridicule of the unfortunate, although this has not always been the case. Many of these songs included insults, either general or specific to one person.
Their I Like It When You Die developed the idea of containing insults in their songs, with a recurring song title being "X Is Gay", with X being a person, place, thing, idea or event. Examples include: "You're Gay", "Technology's Gay", "Recycling Is Gay", "The Internet Is Gay", "Windchimes Are Gay" and even "The Word 'Homophobic' Is Gay." Another recurring song title is "You X", with examples including "You Own a Store", "You Live in a Houseboat", "You Are an Orphan", "You Go to Art School", and "You Keep a Diary". The band even parodied themselves about this with the songs "You (Fill In The Blank)" and "I'm in Anal C..t".
The 1999 album, It Just Gets Worse, took the idea of intentional offense a step further with more extreme examples of racism and sexism, which proved controversial, as they covered topics seen as taboo. Examples include: "You Were Pregnant So I Kicked You In The Stomach", "I Lit Your Baby On Fire" and "Women: Nature's Punching Bag." The lyrics to two of the songs on this album were censored and one of the songs on this album had its name changed from "Connor Clapton Committed Suicide Because His Father Sucks" to "Your Kid Committed Suicide Because You Suck" because they were working for a record label in Britain, where libel laws are very stringent.
It was also in this album that the band began to joke about the Holocaust in numerous songs, including "I Sent Concentration Camp Footage to America's Funniest Home Videos". This theme of seemingly glorifying Adolf Hitler and his actions continued on their subsequent EPs, with songs such as "Hitler Was A Sensitive Man", "Body By Auschwitz", "I Went Back in Time and Voted for Hitler" and "Ha Ha Holocaust."
Another common lyrical theme in the band's material is that of insulting other bands, as well as music in general.
Next to this offensive material, some of their other songs which are more light-hearted appear even more confusing and hilarious. This includes the satirical Picnic of Love album, and also covers of songs completely different from their style including "Can't Touch This", "Stayin' Alive", "Escape (The Pina Colada Song)", "Theme From Three's Company", "You're Gonna Need Someone on Your Side", and "Hungry Hungry Hippos" as well as their bizarre karaoke rendition of the "Steve Miller Band" song "Abracadabra" (with the lyrics changed to "Sabbra-Sabbra-Cadabra") on the split EP with Eyehategod. Other contrasts are provided by the innocent silliness of tracks such as "I Got Athlete's Foot Showering At Mike's".

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Alex Cohen

16 years ago

As a general rule, curiosity-only headlines don't work.

Here's a proven headline formula from Gary B -

Marketing Bullets | Bullet #23

Skip down to the subhead: "To Write Great Headlines"

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GeorgR.

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Alex Cohen

As a general rule, curiosity-only headlines don't work.

Here's a proven headline formula from Gary B -

Marketing Bullets | Bullet #23

Skip down to the subhead: "To Write Great Headlines"

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PURE GOLD to read!!! thanks for this!

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The Copy Nazi

Banned 16 years ago

I give up. I thought you guys knew me by now. Why is you Americans take everything literally? Unless its flagged with "joke approaching"?

But I bet if it were Vin Montello or Frank Kern or Harlan Kilstein posting this you'd be stroking your beards going "hmm...interesting".

It...was...just...a...bit...of...fun. Something to get you to "think outside of the box" - as I.M.ers are fond of saying.

So maybe now its been flagged as a joke you'll have some fun with it?

BTW...windchimes are gay.

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Matt_L 16 years ago

I think Darth Vader was Gay could be a good Google Ad.

If you're going after clicks from the dress up, role playing nerd crowd you should change it to present tense though.

Of you could try --

Who else wants to find out if that's a lightsaber in my pocket or if I'm just happy to see you?

-- to reach an entirely different demographic.
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Ken Strong

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Metronicity

I give up. I thought you guys knew me by now. Why is you Americans take everything literally? Unless its flagged with "joke approaching"?

I don't think it's an American thing -- I think it's a problem with things like humor not always translating well into print. After all, you market yourself as the "Copy Nazi" -- with that in mind, it's not such a strange thing that we wouldn't immediately figure out that "Darth Vader Was Gay" is a joke.

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The Copy Nazi

Banned 16 years ago

Originally Posted by KenStrong

I don't think it's an American thing -- I think it's a problem with things like humor not always translating well into print. After all, you market yourself as the "Copy Nazi" -- with that in mind, it's not such a strange thing that we wouldn't immediately figure out that "Darth Vader Was Gay" is a joke.

Thing about humor is that someone, somewhere is always going to be offended- usually a minority group. The chickens are filing suit right now. They say they didn't go anywhere near the road.

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scrofford

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Metronicity

I give up. I thought you guys knew me by now. Why is you Americans take everything literally? Unless its flagged with "joke approaching"?

But I bet if it were Vin Montello or Frank Kern or Harlan Kilstein posting this you'd be stroking your beards going "hmm...interesting".

It...was...just...a...bit...of...fun. Something to get you to "think outside of the box" - as I.M.ers are fond of saying.

So maybe now its been flagged as a joke you'll have some fun with it?

BTW...windchimes are gay.

I liked it

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16 years ago

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Rezbi 16 years ago

Originally Posted by IM Viper

In my opinion I am not sure why we would make such sensationalized headlines as this. Is the creative tank so low on fuel where we need to offend?

Umm, hellloooo!

Boy eats own head!

Preacher explodes on pulpit!

I'm sure those are American.
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- Irish Intuition 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Rezbi
  
  Umm, hellloooo!
  
  Boy eats own head!
  
  Preacher explodes on pulpit!
  
  I'm sure those are American.
  
  Hello Rezbi,
  
  Aren't those headlines from a rag that went belly up? I may be mistaking.
  
  Also, I did not make it clear that I meant by using a derogatory in a sensationalized headline.
  
  I guess I was looking at it as a headline for a sales page. Keep in mind my copywriting skills are at a bare minimum. Hopefully I will learn a little from you guys.
  
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  Rezbi 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by IM Viper
  
  Hello Rezbi,
  
  Aren't those headlines from a rag that went belly up? I may be mistaking.
  
  You're kidding, right?
  
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Banned 16 years ago

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dtendrich

16 years ago

Sugarman's headline worked cause it was an advertorial.

Originally Posted by Metronicity

You really are new at this aren't you. Google "Vin Montello" and "Harlan Kilstein" - copywriters.

So tell me - what's offensive about "Darth Vader was Gay"? You're offended by the word "gay"? Now why is that? There's absolutely nothing offensive about that word. In fact I'm offended that you find it offensive. I have a good mind to report you to the Equal Opportunities for Headlines Board. I haven't set out to be offensive but I've definitely set out to be cheeky and get people to read the line - and wonder what it's all about and read on.

I wonder what Joe Sugarman would do with it? This is from "The Adweek Copywriting Handbook" -

So...

Darth Vader Was Gay

Now you probably wonder what a gay Darth Vader has to do with this new pocket-sized computer. I'm glad you asked. His gayness has nothing to do with it except for one important fact that I will reveal shortly. But first let me explain an unimportant fact...

[leading to]computer features, playing off Darth Vader was gay, and I would use odor or smell to relate to some of the computer features. I would then come up with a computer feature at the end of the ad that would tie into the story.

Voila.

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Cherilyn Woodhouse

16 years ago

Windchimes ARE gay! They make such a gay sound... And they make me gay when I listen to them!

Unfortunately a Darth Vader headline would turn me off completely since I hate star wars LOL - but good idea to get everyone thinking outside the box.

I avoided this thread until I saw it was getting replies, then I got curious (mostly because it was you ha ha ha!) Oh what will you come up with next...

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BrianMcLeod

16 years ago

Here's your gay vader...

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Daniel Sanchez

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Metronicity

Guys...you think I can get away with that head? Yeah...I know - it's a pure "curiosity" headline. I think it a beauty. But maybe I'm losing my grip. Its for an IM product. Maybe it will turn more people off than it will turn on? Here's what it looks like -

"Darth Vader was Gay"

and please...don't pinch it. Is it a hit or a miss?

Fppptt!

I knew that...

I mean doesn't everyone think Darth Vader was a happy glee-filled type fellow?

You have to watch the musical to really get this.

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CDarklock

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Metronicity

Maybe it will turn more people off than it will turn on?

If Darth Vader really was gay, I would be totally turned on.

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Ken Strong 16 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

If Darth Vader really was gay, I would be totally turned on.

Yes, but we're talking conversions here -- would Darth make you convert?
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- CDarklock 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by KenStrong
  
  Yes, but we're talking conversions here -- would Darth make you convert?
  
  Hell, with that voice, he could make me get down on all fours and bark like a dog.
  
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  Hell, with that voice, he could make me get down on all fours and bark like a dog.
  
  I always thought it brilliant that in Seinfeld's "The Soup Nazi" the two toughs who stole Elaine's armoire from Kramer - were gay.
  
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wiseleo

16 years ago

Please don't use that headline. It will detract from your credibility.

In fact, it instantly did for me, until I saw who posted it. Otherwise, I'd be looking for a "report to moderator" button.

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The Copy Nazi

Banned 16 years ago

Originally Posted by wiseleo

Please don't use that headline. It will detract from your credibility.

In fact, it instantly did for me, until I saw who posted it. Otherwise, I'd be looking for a "report to moderator" button.

What...not "report to humor police"?

"credibility" is gay.

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Kella Bella

16 years ago

I would find something like Breaking News-Darth Vadar was Really Luke Skywalker's Mother!!! to be somewhat more interesting.

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The Copy Nazi

Banned 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Kella Bella

I would find something like Breaking News-Darth Vadar was Really Luke Skywalker's Mother!!! to be somewhat more interesting.

Or -

Breaking News: Was Darth Vader Luke Skywalker's Mother?

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Kella Bella

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Metronicity

Or -

Breaking News: Was Darth Vader Luke Skywalker's Mother?

See no offense but I think that might be something slightly more interesting than Darth Vader being gay. I mean it's possible the suit housed a different person but I dunno about the whole gay thing..........besides aren't gay revelations kinda overdone these days? There's no shock value anymore imo.

Why would you ask the question though instead of state it strongly to pique someone's curiosity?

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The Copy Nazi

Banned 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Kella Bella

See no offense but I think that might be something slightly more interesting than Darth Vader being gay. I mean it's possible the suit housed a different person but I dunno about the whole gay thing..........besides aren't gay revelations kinda overdone these days? There's no shock value anymore imo.

Why would you ask the question though instead of state it strongly to pique someone's curiosity?

Asking a question piques curiosity - getting someone to think about it - asking for their input. So maybe this thread title should be "Was Darth Vader Gay?"

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Kella Bella

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Metronicity

Asking a question piques curiosity - getting someone to think about it - asking for their input. So maybe this thread title should be "Was Darth Vader Gay?"

Yeah or you could do the "Did you know Darth Vader was gay?" Cause then it may be a yes or no answer but.......a little more to it. Imma decent star wars fan but my thinking was if I saw a headline like Darth Vader is Gay....I would just think whatever and move on to the next topic. I could be wrong though this thread seems to have received a lot of response

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colmodwyer

16 years ago

It's a stopper... but perhaps you aught to stick a benefit in there too?

"Darth Vader is Gay... and How This Kept In The Closet Secret Could Make You a Billionaire Filling in Surveys Online!"

Would want something more tried and true to test against though.

You could flip this idea to something like so...

"7 Unusual Ways Super Straight Men Turn Gay..."

Then it's like gay as in happy because you're driving a Ferrari... after becoming a billionaire filling in surveys online.

Or...

"How Gay Are You? Take This Gay Test and Find Out..."

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Banned 16 years ago

Originally Posted by colmodwyer

It's a stopper... but perhaps you aught to stick a benefit in there too?

"Darth Vader is Gay... and How This Kept In The Closet Secret Could Make You a Billionaire Filling in Surveys Online!"

Would want something more tried and true to test against though.

You could flip this idea to something like so...

"7 Unusual Ways Super Straight Men Turn Gay..."

Then it's like gay as in happy because you're driving a Ferrari... after becoming a billionaire filling in surveys online.

Or...

"How Gay Are You? Take This Gay Test and Find Out..."

Colm

But of course. Like I said - "Yeah I do have a story. It doesn't stand alone." Not only do I have a story but a deck as well -which qualifies the "Darth Vader was Gay".

I like what you've done with it though.

BTW I found this 3 year old Associated Content Article on it - 'That's Gay': Unintentionally Offensive Phrase Unlikely to Decline in Popularity - Associated Content - associatedcontent.com

'That's Gay': Unintentionally Offensive Phrase Unlikely to Decline in Popularity

By Samantha Griffin Recently there has been a great deal of emphasis placed on language and who it might be offensive to. New York banned the N-word because the city felt it might be offensive to people who use the term to make a living; Wisconsin banned the phrase "greatest quarterback of all-time" unless it was preceded by "Brett Favre and/or Bart Starr is." In Boston, the word "sucks" was outlawed, the only exception being when it's used in reference to a player on the Yankees.

But whereas these words are used for the sole purpose of being derogatory towards the subject in question, the most commonly used offensive phrase, known as either "that's gay" or "that's so gay," is rarely, if ever, intended to be negative towards the population that represents the adjective in question. That's gay dominates the lexicon of today's youth, it's that simple. It's versatility and ease of verbalization make it appealing to boys and girls of all ages. But unlike phrases along the lines of, "that's such a woman thing to do," or perhaps, "that's so Jewish," both of which clearly imply that there is something inherently wrong with women and Jews, respectively, that's gay is used without any thought of homosexuals or their stereotypes.

Take a look at these examples:"They were out of coke today," response: that's gay. "The teacher gave us a ton of homework," response: that's gay."I went to get those shoes we saw at the mall the other day, but the lady said the sale ended on the 15th, and I was like, the sign says it goes through the 15th, and she was like, that means it was over on the 15th, and I was like, that's gay," response: Oh my God, that's really gay. So gay.

So obviously this is quite a conundrum. And more than ever, people are catching themselves saying that's gay, only to be informed a few minutes later that there is a gay person in the immediate vicinity. They then wonder, did they hear me? Do I apologize? What if I apologize and he hadn't heard me, then I'm confessing unnecessarily? Where did he get that bracelet? If he did hear me, was he offended?There's no way of knowing.

Now, you would think that young gay people would be so used to hearing it every day that they'd stop noticing. Moreover, they should also realize that 99.999% of the time, the person means absolutely no disrespect towards the gay community. Of course, if you say "the gays" instead of gay community, that's offensive. As is the term homosexual, which, according to Wikipedia, is "too clinical-sounding. They believe it is too focused on physical acts rather than romance or attraction, or too reminiscent of the era when homosexuality was considered a mental illness."

Unfortunately, though, it's pretty obvious that if you're saying that's gay to imply that something is, for instance, stupid, then by that line of reasoning, gay = stupid. And no matter how stupid they might be, people in general object to being called stupid.

But what are we, the that's gay generation, supposed to do? The phrase can be used appropriately to describe anyone or anything that's being gay or is gay. It can mean that's: stupid, lame, ridiculous, unbelievable, oh no he di'int, outrageous, uncool, not heterosexual, etc. It's like the Hawaiians and their 36 meanings for the word aloha. And not only that, but it takes minimal effort to say that's gay; you just have to say that's, and then make a 'g' sound and exhale, which provides the "-ay" finish in that's gay.

The alternative would be to make yourself a virtual thesaurus, able to spit out the specific adjective to describe the topic in question. For instance, "the jerk cop gave me a ticket for listening to Clay Aiken on my iPod while driving." Instead of responding with, that's gay, you could alternatively respond with: he's gay, which would fit perfectly in this case. In another instance, had the cop given a ticket for speeding and no gay musical artists were present, there would most certainly be a more specific, and thus less offensive response to the news than that's gay. A prepared individual could instead respond with a re-assuring: that sucks.

Given recent events in schools, in which examples have been made of students displaying politically incorrect behavior, is that's gay on it's way out? Not likely. As students mature and try to check themselves, gay people become more ambivalent towards a phrase many have grown accustomed to. No ones knows how it came to be so commonplace, but it has evolved into a phrase as flexible and practical as okay. And if anything, it's constant use on school campuses across America should water the term down so much that gay won't even mean gay anymore. Yeah, that's not gonna happen.

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RickDuris

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Metronicity

But of course. Like I said - "Yeah I do have a story. It doesn't stand alone." Not only do I have a story but a deck as well -which qualifies the "Darth Vader was Gay".

I like what you've done with it though.

BTW I found this 3 year old Associated Content Article on it - 'That's Gay': Unintentionally Offensive Phrase Unlikely to Decline in Popularity - Associated Content - associatedcontent.com

In Laguna Beach where I live, we have a strong gay constituency. (For instance, they are trying to turn the home of the Boom Boom Room, Rock Hudson's old haunt, into an historic landmark.)

A couple of months ago, I was having dinner at a small local Thai place with a friend. I was sharing a story and at some point my friend exclaims:

"That's so g**!"

Everyone in the restaurant heard that comment. And stared us down. If looks could kill... I wanted the ground to open up and swallow me. These are my neighbors.

At which point, my friend whispers to me "Uh oh, what should I do?"

"There's only one thing you can do. You got to go to each and every table and you apologize. That's the thing to do."

And he did.

Now, luckily my friend is charismatic as anything. And he was able to do a mea culpa, fall his sword and make a few friends in the process. His apology took class and it took guts.

(And I was the catalyst, and I felt so bad, so I followed up with a round of drinks for the house.)

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BrianMcLeod 16 years ago

Originally Posted by RickDuris

I felt so bad, so I followed up with a round of drinks for the house.

Personally, I was utterly mortified by Mal's Darth Vader headline...

...I'll have a Jack & Coke. Thanks,man!

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- RickDuris 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by BrianMcLeod
  
  Personally, I was utterly mortified by Mal's Darth Vader headline...
  
  ...I'll have a Jack & Coke. Thanks,man!
  
  Brian
  
  Actually, I wasn't offended. Those are the headlines you see all the time in the Enquirer. And nobody ever believes the Enquirer, because they pay for stories and the stories are let's say "embellished upon."
  
  Mal, no kidding: There is a market for the kind of writing and thinking you're great at. It's called Weekly World News.
  
  Weekly World News|The World's Only Reliable News!
  
  It's a wonderful source of humor and headlines. Their creativity abounds. They used to publish and make available in grocery stores but now they don't, except on the web. But it is still funny as anything.
  
  Also Fark.com has goodies everyday, that just make you giggle.
  
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  BrianMcLeod 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by RickDuris
  
  Brian, do you want me to put an umbrella in that drink?
  
  What the hell... you're buyin'.
  
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Nathan Alexander

16 years ago

Well, he did make capes fashionable. And he sure knew how to coordinate.

You know what they say, it takes a big man to cry, but an even bigger man to use a pink light saber.

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16 years ago

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fthomas137 16 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

And I almost pee'd myself on this comic!

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J. Barry Mandel

16 years ago

There's a new hope, so why not spin it into making it personal to the reader which should pique even more curiosity...

"Darth Vader was Gay & So Are You If ____________!"

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fthomas137

16 years ago

All I have to say is that this headline works - just look at the comments! LOL!!!

Frank

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jackmiloto

16 years ago

This is a proof that curiosity plus excitement equals traffic then traffic equals money no matter how ridiculous your headline looks like.

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ArturRubinstein

16 years ago

I also klicked because i thought "WTF is this" ...

I bet you will get tons of curiousity klicks. One thing to keep in mind is that it is ONLY curiousity. You´ll also loose credibility, since this is a sensible topic for some people.
You´ll attract alot of low quality traffic, but well, it will be a lot.

If you´re selling a joke/fun product, it might work out, if it at least has some sort of relevance.

If you´re selling life coaching

, well you know...

Being creative can never hurt though! Please keep this updated with a link to your site... wanna see the sales page

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jaya_allways

16 years ago

Giahahahaha.. Nice thread.. I clicked without thinking anymore.. Nice..

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cosmoslad

16 years ago

He was wearing a simple black dress.......
Great headline.

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Trapped

16 years ago

Sheesh, perhaps you could but I would care less about the sexual preferences of Darth Vader or anyone else..I mean, it is not like we found out he was a alien (third kind presence...)

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Cataclysm1987

16 years ago

I DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE SELLING BUT I'M BUYING LOLZ

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Midas3 Consulting

16 years ago

Would have been quite amusing if Vader had stood in between
the cop and the cowboy. YMCA would never have been so
appealing.

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Rezbi

16 years ago

I have to speak up on Darth's behalf.

I know a guy who was his business partner and he knows for a fact he wasn't gay.

And he never actually tried to strangle anyone with the force. That was an imposter trying to set him up.

I believe him as I know it's quite easy to make it look real in the movies.

You can do all sorts of stuff with special effects.

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Mr. Enthusiastic

16 years ago

Hi Mal,

When there's a Dark Lord that can choke enemies with a wave of a hand, order destruction of an innocent planet, use a light saver and dispose of an Emperor...

do you really think I'm gonna try to pinch that?

(Whether or not he's gay?)

Chris

P.S. As an Internet Marketing headline I think it's a miserable idea. As a personal blog title it could get a lot of worthwhile attention.

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Rezbi

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Mr. Enthusiastic

Hi Mal,

When there's a Dark Lord that can choke enemies with a wave of a hand, order destruction of an innocent planet, use a light saver and dispose of an Emperor...

do you really think I'm gonna try to pinch that?

(Whether or not he's gay?)

Chris

P.S. As an Internet Marketing headline I think it's a miserable idea. As a personal blog title it could get a lot of worthwhile attention.

I told you, he didn't really do all that. It's the media trying to portray him as a terrorist when he's not.

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Mr. Enthusiastic 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Rezbi

I told you, he didn't really do all that. It's the media trying to portray him as a terrorist when he's not.

So your headline could be,
DARTH VADER WAS FRAMED!

You and Mal could have a lively debate between your Vader blogs.
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Brad Callen

16 years ago

Caught my attention. I thought it was funny. If that's what you're going for, I think it's good. As long as you follow it up with something meaningful so they immediately know what your page is about. Otherwise they'll just leave.

Brad

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