Top Copywriters - Earn Bragging Rights and $50

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I'll cut to the chase.

If you think you've got top notch copy skills,
here's a simple way to prove it - and maybe make
a little cash at the same time.

You see... I just finished a sales letter and am
looking for ways to optimize it.

I am an avid tester, and decided this would be
a great opportunity for everyone here to see what
really works and what doesn't.

You see, too many copywriters have their biases,
like

"Short headlines are best."
"Long copy works best."
"You need to have testimonials."
"This font works best."

And so on.

But now... let's test these ideas out and prove which
ones work and which don't.

Here is what I propose - Review the sales page and
provide your best ideas on what will improve its
conversion rate.

We can go back and forth about which ones we most
want to see tested. Then, I'll include all of them in a
large multivariable test and let it run for a week.

After that week is over, I'll post the results here for
all to see. You'll see which factors matter and which
don't, all in real time.

And here's the kicker - if you present an idea/copy/image
that improves the conversion rate with over a 95%
confidence rate (I'll post these, too) you get $50 to
your account, not to mention bragging rights around these parts.

If you promote your copywriting services, this could
skyrocket your credibility.

There is no limit on the payouts, either. If five people
improve the conversion rate - even if it's just 0.1% -
then five payments go out. If you nail all five yourself,
you just earned $250. Simple as that.

Right now it is Wednesday - I will accept ideas up until
late Friday, set the test up on Saturday and run it for the
week. Then, I'll post the results and pay (and praise) the
winners. So, without further ado... let the case study begin!

Auto Cash Machine
#$50 #bragging #copywriters #earn #rights #top
  • Profile picture of the author MikeHumphreys
    You do realize that "Top Copywriters" charge far more than $50 per hour, right? Most of the top guns I know charge more like $300 per hour for their time.

    They don't need bragging rights either because they have client testimonials for their copywriting already.

    Like Ken said, kudos on the chutzpah but sorry to say... you're not going to get top copywriters entering your "contest".

    Good luck,

    Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnny12345
    Your copy is filled with hype and empty cliches. It's pure, blind, curiosity copy that does little more than try to push and prod people to buy. But that type of copy typically performs poorly in this "age of skepticism."

    You would be far better off revealing a little bit about your "secret" system. Give them a taste. (Besides, anybody who's been around the block a time or two will recognize what certainly looks like a printed Clickbank account screen shot.)

    The "verified testimonial" graphic above all the testimonials made me laugh a bit. They're verified by who, exactly? This is an example of how your copy assumes that people are stupid -- but they're not.

    I'd also do something about that header graphic. It looks like an ad for a game show. Using no header graphic at all would convert better.

    If you address ANY of the above problems, your conversions are bound to increase.

    You can donate the $50 you owe me to the charity of your choice.

    Best Regards,

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Bowring
      Every couple months someone posts in an effort to start a critique competition of sorts. I know you mean well, but IMHO I think you're better off simply politely asking for a critique. It's an unsexy yet effective tactic that seems to work well for many others.

      --- Ross
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
    Good Approach:

    "Hey guys, I'd love to get some feedback on this letter if you wouldn't mind..."
    Better Approach:

    "Here's what I've been working on. I've tried to _____ with the headline but I'm not sure if it's working or not. I also want to ____ so I've ______. Am I on the right track?"
    Useless Approach:

    "Hey hotshots...

    You're all full of it. Prove yourself... for $50."
    Jess sayin'...

    BTW, who's Paul?

    Brian
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
    Nice to meet you, Dunno.

    Jess is the one SAYIN'...
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  • Profile picture of the author Zentech
    I don't particularly care about the $50, but I might take a look at this just for fun and practice.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    If you're earning $3k a day... I would assume spending some of that on a full critique from a copywriter with a proven track record would be a wise investment.

    And here's why...

    Sure... copywriters often offer free critiques... but we skim.

    While we pick up on some stuff... a lot of it is glossed over.

    If you're a newbie who has no idea what they've screwed up... and don't have the money for a critique... it makes sense.

    And we're happy to help where we can.

    But you're asking us to give you our valuable time... and advice that will make you (probably) hundreds of thousands a year... for $50.

    Maybe it's just me... but it seems a little condescending... like you're trying to shaft us.

    We're happy to help you make more money...

    ...but only if you first give us the respect we deserve.

    Paying for a critique won't just get you a much more thorough, in-depth analysis...

    ...the advice will probably make you a lot more money than a "once over".

    -Dan
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  • Profile picture of the author maximus242
    Originally Posted by cozandeffect View Post

    I'll cut to the chase.

    If you think you've got top notch copy skills,
    here's a simple way to prove it - and maybe make
    a little cash at the same time.

    You see... I just finished a sales letter and am
    looking for ways to optimize it.

    I am an avid tester, and decided this would be
    a great opportunity for everyone here to see what
    really works and what doesn't.

    You see, too many copywriters have their biases,
    like

    "Short headlines are best."
    "Long copy works best."
    "You need to have testimonials."
    "This font works best."

    And so on.

    But now... let's test these ideas out and prove which
    ones work and which don't.

    Here is what I propose - Review the sales page and
    provide your best ideas on what will improve its
    conversion rate.

    We can go back and forth about which ones we most
    want to see tested. Then, I'll include all of them in a
    large multivariable test and let it run for a week.

    After that week is over, I'll post the results here for
    all to see. You'll see which factors matter and which
    don't, all in real time.

    And here's the kicker - if you present an idea/copy/image
    that improves the conversion rate with over a 95%
    confidence rate (I'll post these, too) you get $50 to
    your account, not to mention bragging rights around these parts.

    If you promote your copywriting services, this could
    skyrocket your credibility.

    There is no limit on the payouts, either. If five people
    improve the conversion rate - even if it's just 0.1% -
    then five payments go out. If you nail all five yourself,
    you just earned $250. Simple as that.

    Right now it is Wednesday - I will accept ideas up until
    late Friday, set the test up on Saturday and run it for the
    week. Then, I'll post the results and pay (and praise) the
    winners. So, without further ado... let the case study begin!

    Auto Cash Machine
    HAHAHAHAHAHA
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  • Profile picture of the author Zentech
    After taking a look at it, you have a huge amount of copy you want reviewed for the mere possibility of a $50 prize. I'm gonna have to pass, and echo what Daniel Scott said.

    If there was a lot less copy to look at, I was considering doing it just for fun (as I have free time right now), but that's just too much. I'd be effectively devaluing myself as a copywriter by doing that much essentially free work. Best of luck to you, though.
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  • Profile picture of the author MouseandMice
    Wait...

    So I can possibly make $50 if I totally rewrite your copy?

    Why are all these guys saying no... That is 5 pizzas from Dominos-- They have new CRUST!!!!!

    O.o
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
      Originally Posted by MouseandMice View Post

      Wait...

      So I can possibly make $50 if I totally rewrite your copy?

      Why are all these guys saying no... That is 5 pizzas from Dominos-- They have new CRUST!!!!!

      O.o
      Not over here they don't... it still tastes like cardboard with crappy tomato sauce and bad cheese.

      Are they markedly better over in the States with the "new recipes"?

      They sure looked good in the commercials...

      -Dan
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      • Profile picture of the author MouseandMice
        Originally Posted by Daniel Scott View Post

        Not over here they don't... it still tastes like cardboard with crappy tomato sauce and bad cheese.

        Are they markedly better over in the States with the "new recipes"?

        They sure looked good in the commercials...

        -Dan
        Really? You should write a note or something! The new pizzas are actually pretty darn good!

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  • Profile picture of the author MouseandMice
    P.S. Thank you for "Cutting to the chase."

    I was unsure if you were a "big shot marketer," but that cleared it up.

    Oh, and nice job slamming the bank statement on the table. Did Clickbank merge with Chase recently?
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    So you claim to be making over $60k a month and you're offering a whole $50 to critique this page. I'm so excited.

    I'll give you this for nothing - when I see a page with claims about "auto-cash" with notes falling from the sky - over a mansion...with a fancy car...and the perfect-looking couple with the 2.5 children what is my first impression?

    Scam. Pure and simple. And I run a mile.

    If you promote your copywriting services, this could skyrocket your credibility.
    - or totally ruin it.
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    • Profile picture of the author MouseandMice
      Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

      So you claim to be making over $60k a month and you're offering a whole $50 to critique this page. I'm so excited.

      I'll give you this for nothing - when I see a page with claims about "auto-cash" with notes falling from the sky - over a mansion...with a fancy car...and the perfect-looking couple with the 2.5 children what is my first impression?

      Scam. Pure and simple. And I run a mile.

      - or totally ruin it.
      I feel like I have to speak up...

      You're obviously just jealous of his success. I have never seen you offer $50 for a rewrite of a sites copy. Ever.

      This guy slams his bank statements on tables when talking to his friends. He lives the dream.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Raybould
    Here's the deal:

    If you were really making $60k/month,
    you'd NEVER let a group of unknown
    quantities on a public forum critique
    your page.

    You'd have hired a pro to write it in
    the first place.

    Second:

    That Clickbank statement image is
    clearly fake.

    If you're making so much dough why
    do you need to use doctored images?

    The only logical conclusion is that
    you're NOT making that kind of money.

    And so no decent copywriter with a
    shred of ethics is going to get involved.

    Even if they do have the chance of
    winning a whole $50.

    Originally Posted by cozandeffect View Post

    "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world."
    Looks like you need a longer lever
    bro.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jag82
      Originally Posted by David Raybould View Post


      Originally Posted by cozandeffect

      "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world."
      Looks like you need a longer lever
      bro.
      And also one hell of a strong fulcrum too.

      - Jag
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    • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
      Hi all,

      I think it's time we called back the "copywriting hounds of hell" on this one. I think the point's been made pretty clear.

      - Rick Duris

      PS: Man, you guys have a bite!


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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    @ Rick, yeah...you're right. We've been a bit hard on him. There are some classic lines in there. Like "and I had the bank statements to back it up." - followed by a shot of a crumpled-up Clickwank statement.

    and "At 9:00 AM sharp the doorbell rang. It was Gabe - and he was just as nervous and excited as I was." - like on a first date?

    and "And then, for the first time ever - I heard my friend Gabe start to cry." pussy.

    but the best one is "My life has become a fairy tale".

    I know what you mean brother. I know what you mean.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kirimanjaro
    ha! I am smiling. This thread and the response to the thread has been most amusing. I kinda think people in this forum are more alert than they are given credit for. All the same good luck in your quest.
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