Care to explain split testing?

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Hey Guys and Gals,

I'm reading through Clayton's course at the moment and it has touched on something I've wondered about before. As the title shows, this is split testing.

For marketing online:

When testing a piece for something online, how is this done?

Do you run one version of a salesletter for a period of time and then switch? Or do you simply test between two websites?

It doesn't seem logical to me to split between two sites because in some cases that would imply having/needing two suitable domains, double the traffic generation, etc. Plus if you're trying to build a brand in the process, it could create confusion.

So...

In retrospect - do you just simply direct to two directories on your page?
Ex. - mysqueezepage.com/a vs. mysqueezepage.com/b

For marketing offline:

I don't really know how to ask this, so I will just cite an example from the course.

It was said that in the process of boosting response, sometimes changes for a current control were made and tested by running "two headlines and four offer variations". I'm assuming that's one headline and two offer variations per mailing piece. Also, I understand that those specific numbers and changes aren't an only option, just what they did.

What I'm not getting, in regard to how to split test them, is this:

1.) Is this done by splitting a current list in half and running your changes against eachother simultaneously, or...

2.) Run one version, wait for your responses and then push the other out?

Given the term ("split testing"), the first option is the only one that really makes any sense. Not to mention the amount of time you would have to wait for the postal service to mail, deliver and return for the second to move.

However, I'm unsure, so I just want to know in case I am wrong.

I haven't reached the point of mailing anything out or anything online, but I'm the kind of person that won't be able to concentrate until I properly comprehend whatever is bothering me.


Thanks for your time,
Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author ghyphena
    Hi Mike,

    Split-testing is usually done in parallel. Online, there are scripts available that redirect traffic to one of several alternative pages on a random or cyclic basis. Offline, the mailing list is usually split into several piles and, again, tested against each other at the same time.

    As a side note, I would read "two headlines and four offer variations" to mean that there were two different headlines being tested and four different offer variations with each tested headline - i.e. eight versions in all. I may be wrong.

    You're correct to assume that that's just what they did and not the "rules". You can split test literally anything that's part of your promotion:

    Headlines... prices... bonuses... length of guarantee... graphical layout... page numbers or no page numbers... there are endless possibilities.

    Bear in mind, though, that while it's possible to test page numbers vs no page numbers, it's unlikely to have as much significance as a headline split test... or tests involving price, guarantee, offer and other such crucial factors.

    Hope this puts your mind at ease

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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Schwenk
      Originally Posted by ghyphena View Post

      Hi Mike,

      Split-testing is usually done in parallel. Online, there are scripts available that redirect traffic to one of several alternative pages on a random or cyclic basis. Offline, the mailing list is usually split into several piles and, again, tested against each other at the same time.

      As a side note, I would read "two headlines and four offer variations" to mean that there were two different headlines being tested and four different offer variations with each tested headline - i.e. eight versions in all. I may be wrong.

      You're correct to assume that that's just what they did and not the "rules". You can split test literally anything that's part of your promotion:

      Headlines... prices... bonuses... length of guarantee... graphical layout... page numbers or no page numbers... there are endless possibilities.

      Bear in mind, though, that while it's possible to test page numbers vs no page numbers, it's unlikely to have as much significance as a headline split test... or tests involving price, guarantee, offer and other such crucial factors.

      Hope this puts your mind at ease

      Gil-Ad
      Gil-Ad,

      Thanks for your response.

      I completely forgot about there being scripts for split tests online.

      In regard to my previous post, it looks like most of my assumptions were correct. Either way, thank you for the clarification.

      Also, it's interesting that whether a page has numbers on it or not could change results. I suppose that it could be because it could make the copy "feel" longer.

      Thanks again,

      Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author robyna
        Thanks for asking this question Mike because I've had a similar question and got nowhere Googling b/c the language was all so technical.

        For those who know about this: Is there a particular software you use for the scripts? Is the split test run on the same domain, just redirecting to different subdomains?

        I know this is probably elementary for most of you but I'm coming from a background of article marketing (I know...I just heard the collective gag from most of you! ) and am moving into copywriting. I need to know more than just how to write sales copy to do this correctly and learn what works and what doesn't.

        If I were to split test something, is there an ebook or some website that explains this to a newbie?

        Thanks guys!
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        • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
          Originally Posted by robyna View Post

          Thanks for asking this question Mike because I've had a similar question and got nowhere Googling b/c the language was all so technical.

          For those who know about this: Is there a particular software you use for the scripts? Is the split test run on the same domain, just redirecting to different subdomains?

          I know this is probably elementary for most of you but I'm coming from a background of article marketing (I know...I just heard the collective gag from most of you! ) and am moving into copywriting. I need to know more than just how to write sales copy to do this correctly and learn what works and what doesn't.

          If I were to split test something, is there an ebook or some website that explains this to a newbie?

          Thanks guys!
          There are lots of testing tools.

          But Google's free Website Optimizer is good for the basics as well as beyond.

          Here are Google's video tutorials on :

          Website Optimizer - Google

          There are also a number of quality, easy to learn videos on YouTube as well as other video sites and blogs.

          - Rick Duris

          PS: The biggest draw back is Google gets to take advantage of all the data you're collecting. If you're ok with that, it's wonderful for what you are trying to accomplish. Just open up an account.
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          • Profile picture of the author robyna
            Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post

            There are lots of testing tools.

            But Google's free Website Optimizer is good for the basics as well as beyond.

            Here are Google's video tutorials on :

            Website Optimizer - Google

            There are also a number of quality, easy to learn videos on YouTube as well as other video sites and blogs.

            - Rick Duris

            PS: The biggest draw back is Google gets to take advantage of all the data you're collecting. If you're ok with that, it's wonderful for what you are trying to accomplish. Just open up an account.
            Thanks Rick! I knew one of the Masters would know. Plus, for now, I like the price of "free!" Gosh, is there anything Google does not offer?

            I'm also curious, is this part of the "package" when a client orders a sales letter from you? Or, is it a separate add on to do split testing and such. I'm guessing a lot of clients don't realize the value of this.

            I had a client that was ready to hire me to write an auto responder last week at an hourly rate. I told him research would be "extra" in addition to my hourly writing fees. I haven't heard from him again.

            I'm just wondering how you handle all of this in your business.
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            • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
              Originally Posted by robyna View Post

              Thanks Rick! I knew one of the Masters would know. Plus, for now, I like the price of "free!" Gosh, is there anything Google does not offer?

              I'm also curious, is this part of the "package" when a client orders a sales letter from you? Or, is it a separate add on to do split testing and such. I'm guessing a lot of clients don't realize the value of this.

              I had a client that was ready to hire me to write an auto responder last week at an hourly rate. I told him research would be "extra" in addition to my hourly writing fees. I haven't heard from him again. Duh!

              I'm just wondering how you handle all of this in your business (minus the dumb bozos like I encountered).

              1. Yes, as a copywriter, I do testing and tracking at the most details of levels I can. It's a part of the "package." It's incremental, methodical optimization. There are lots of ways to implement, but that's the intent.

              2. Part of my work is making sure a prospective Client is a good fit in a collaborative sort of way. I do not tell them "everything" they are going to get. In their eyes, I over deliver.

              But there's a bit of a qualification process with me.

              Not that I'm arrogant nor do marketers have to justify their existence to me, but I really am not for everyone. I have "eccentricities," which those of you who have talked with me know all too well.

              But most of all, marketers know I am serious about making money for them and their business--sometimes more serious than they are--because I see opportunity and possibility they can't (yet.)

              Those that decide to move forward, they stay with me for a very long time. And it's because I do not sell words, I sell results. On their books, I always want to be in the income side of the ledger, never the expense.

              - Rick Duris
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeHumphreys
            Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post


            PS: The biggest draw back is Google gets to take advantage of all the data you're collecting. If you're ok with that, it's wonderful for what you are trying to accomplish. Just open up an account.
            Rick, that's one of the biggest reasons why my customers tell me they buy my multi-variate testing script, Easy Multi Tracking. Easy Multi Tracking: Professional Copywriter Reveals His Proven Conversion Boosting Tool That You Can Use To Skyrocket Your Conversion Rates FAST!

            They don't want to share their conversion or sales data with outside parties, especially one that they buy their advertising from.

            Mike, you can test online a bunch of ways. Typically, people choose to do A/B tests (split testing), page rotator (i.e. salesletter 1 vs. salesletter 2) testing, or multi-variate testing.

            Any multi-variate testing script or service will do also do split testing. (Easy Multi Tracking also does page rotator testing.)

            Simplest way to explain multi-variate testing is you're running either one test with 3 or more variations for a single element (i.e. 3 challengers to your opening control headline)... OR you're running multiple tests on a webpage at once (i.e. preheadline, opening headline, subheadline, offer, etc.) that has two or more variations being tested against each other.

            The best free report I've seen to date to learn the fundamentals of online testing is John Ritz's Profit DNA. You can contact John to get a copy of it or shoot me a PM/email as John's given me permission to share with any of my customers/subscribers who want a copy of it.

            The best paid report I've seen to date is Paul Hancox's Small Changes Big Profits. Here's a direct non-affiliate link: Small Changes: Big Profits (2008 Edition)

            If you have any additional questions, feel free to drop me a email or PM privately.

            Take care,

            Mike
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            • Profile picture of the author Jag82
              Originally Posted by MikeHumphreys View Post


              The best paid report I've seen to date is Paul Hancox's Small Changes Big Profits. Here's a direct non-affiliate link: Small Changes: Big Profits (2008 Edition)
              Hey Mike,

              Paul Hancox's Small Changes Big Profits book is indeed
              an excellent book testing.

              I like it so much I even bought resale rights to it.

              - Jag
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashley Gable
      Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

      I second the conversion chicken. Its a very easy to use script.

      Plus he has added a bunch more features and helpful additions.

      2nd plus is that if you are just starting out, you can use it free if you have less than 1,000 visitors per month!
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  • Profile picture of the author robyna
    Thanks Rick. I appreciate your explanation. Good for you that you can be a bit choosy about your clients. That's a great place to be. I love learning from you guys that are so good at what you do, quirks and all. Thanks again!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Schwenk
    Yes, thank you for all of the input.

    Now my only problem is coming up with a product to keep in mind while I go through the course. I've continued anyway to get my daily amount of pages I've set for myself done, while brainstorming for an idea.

    I'm either going to just grab a product on clickbank to base everything off of, or write a spec piece for whatever I choose.

    Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and to Mal for the link.

    - Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author tswartz
    You can do this with simple PHP:

    dave-tips.web-l.com/2007/03/ab-split-test-in-php.php
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