Where are all the great female copywriters ?

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Dave d 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Maria Veloso.

Maybe not Maria Veloso, then. :confused:

Yes that was it. Seemed like some people were having a laugh her expense and then one person posted a you tube vid that poked more fun.
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Collette 14 years ago

'Great' is a subjective term, but here are some names that have made millions for their clients:

Donna Baier Stein, Tina Lorenz, Carline Angelade Cole, Susanna Hutchinson, Marcia Yudkin, Kim Krause Schwalm, Emily Soell, Joan Throckmorton, James Chartrand.

That's off the top of my head.

Case History BTW: James Chartrand (Men with Pens) is a woman. She took on a male nom de plume because of the bias in the copywriting and direct response industry.

Briefly, James began copywriting under her own name. She got tired of being condescended to and always having to 'justify' her competence and her fees. As an experiment, she began marketing herself as "James Chartrand" and noticed an immediate difference in the way she was perceived by prospects and clients. So, she kept "James Chartrand" and her career flourished.

James only 'came out' because someone who knew her real name threatened to go public with the information. Even so, she has not revealed her 'real' name, and continues to write as James Chartrand.

Although there are a number of excellent female direct response copywriters, many of them simply choose to avoid the testosterone hoopla. It gets old, and it's not worth the energy.
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- CDarklock 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Collette
  
  'Great' is a subjective term, but here are some names
  
  IMO, your name belongs on any list of great female copywriters.
  
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  Irish Intuition 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by CDarklock
  
  IMO, your name belongs on any list of great female copywriters.
  
  Only if she's hot
  
  of course I know she could grind my nuts into a fine dust. I am just playing Collette!
  
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  Collette 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by IM Viper
  
  Only if she's hot...
  
  Better stock up on a lifetime supply of asbestos gloves then, darlin'...
  
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  Irish Intuition 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Collette
  
  Better stock up on a lifetime supply of asbestos gloves then, darlin'...
  
  I don't know what that means, but I think I am turned on
  
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  Rezbi 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Collette
  
  Better stock up on a lifetime supply of asbestos gloves then, darlin'...
  
  Flirting again, I see...
  
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  Alex Cohen 14 years ago
  
  Here's a list (some previously mentioned) with websites ...
  
  Carline Anglade-Cole Carline Anglade-Cole
  Chris Marlow The Copywriter's Coach
  Donna L. Doyle Copy By Doyle | Donna L. Doyle -- Direct Response Copywriter, Health Copywriter
  Kim Krause Schwalm Welcome
  Lorrie Morgan-Ferrero RED HOT COPY
  Maria Veloso Copywriting - Web Copy That Sells
  Renee Renaud milliondollarcopy.com
  Roberta Rosenberg The Copywriting Maven
  Robin Meyers Writing To The Rescue - Freelance Writer and Copywriting Service
  Susan Landry Freelance Copywriter Susan Landry | Elegant Writing for Exceptional Results
  Susanna K. Hutcheson Freelance Copywriter| Advertising copywriter| Website Copywriter| Direct Mail Copywriter | copywriting service
  Tina Lorenz Tina Lorenz Writes
  
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  Collette 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Rezbi
  
  Flirting again, I see...
  
  I am a Shameless Keyboard Slut.
  
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  Dave d 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Collette
  
  I am a Shameless Keyboard Slut.
  
  Is this a private party or can anybody join in :p
  
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  Rezbi 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Dave d
  
  Is this a private party or can anybody join in :p
  
  And read my blog. You know you want to.
  
  That's in her sig. file.
  
  You make up your own mind.
  
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  MikeHumphreys 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Collette
  
  Better stock up on a lifetime supply of asbestos gloves then, darlin'...
  
  Collette, let me know when it's on pay-per-view. Howard Stern won't have nothing on you.
  
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  Collette 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by CDarklock
  
  IMO, your name belongs on any list of great female copywriters.
  
  Sheesh, Mr. Darklock! You made me blush!
  
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  Ken Strong 14 years ago
  
  Where are all the great female copywriters?
  
  They all ran off with the "Good Guys" from the other thread.
  
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Andrew Gould

14 years ago

Carline Anglade-Cole

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Dave d 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Andrew Gould

Carline Anglade-Cole

OMG all that screaming she and her friend did on Dr. Oz was ridiculous and embarrassing.
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maximus242

14 years ago

Shes also one of the best copywriters in the world, she can scream all she likes

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Irish Intuition 14 years ago

Originally Posted by maximus242

Shes also one of the best copywriters in the world, she can scream all she likes

Her style is very in your face. I bet this forum would shred any of her stuff (if they did not know it has worked).

Her style has a place and she is using it very well.
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Jag82

14 years ago

Carline Anglade-Cole's copy is smoking hot.

Just look at her million-dollar controls. I wish
I had a CV like that (working towards that).

Woman can write just as well as man. Maybe even
better.

- Jag

P.S Yes, Collette belongs to that list.

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Chris1203

14 years ago

I can't think of any well known female copywriters either. But there's GOT to be some!

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davis1985

14 years ago

The rules of copywriting have DEFINITELY CHANGED. In fact, I'd say we've moved into Copywriting 2.0. For the first ever YOU can learn how to write copy that speaks to her in HER LANGUAGE.

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Dave d

14 years ago

The main reason I posed this question is because everybody always say something like "you should read that book by John Carlton" or "This book by Dan Kennedy" or "study all the copy written by Halbert". Maybe all the women are just keeping a low profile, apart from that one that likes to scream a lot on daytime tv.

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Collette 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dave d

...Maybe all the women are just keeping a low profile, apart from that one that likes to scream a lot on daytime tv.

Picture this:

You're hanging out at home. Maybe you're washing the dishes or changing the oil in the car or doing some other mundane thing.

The phone rings.

You pick it up.

It's Oprah.

She wants you to write the promo package for "O", her magazine.

(There are how many copywriters in the United States, again?)

Yes. Oprah wants you.

I suspect you'd scream like a 13-year old at a Jonas Brothers concert, too.
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Anita Ashland

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dave d

The main reason I posed this question is because everybody always say something like "you should read that book by John Carlton" or "This book by Dan Kennedy" or "study all the copy written by Halbert". Maybe all the women are just keeping a low profile, apart from that one that likes to scream a lot on daytime tv.

If you're looking for a "great female copywriter," then check out Susanna Hutchenson, who became a copywriter in the 1960s. Here's her website: Freelance Copywriter| Advertising copywriter| Website Copywriter| Direct Mail Copywriter | copywriting service.

Michel Fortin wrote about her in this post: http://www.michelfortin.com/is-copyw...sculine-skill/

She used a male pen name when first starting out and even dressed like a man to get her first job writing copy.

If you think copywriting is male-dominated now, it was even more so when she first started out, and she's had a very impressive career. She's an inspiration.

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ewenmack 14 years ago

If you are thinking of writing to the female market, then Lorrie Morgan-Ferrero is one of the better female copywriters who understands them.

Even though she has been trained by Gary Halbert, John Carlton and Dan Kennedy, she knows writing to women is a little different, as they respond differently.

Good thing to know because they control most of the spending!

She has training on how you go about it too.

Alex above has a link to her website.

All the best,
Ewen
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- Jag82 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by ewenmack
  
  Even though she has been trained by Gary Halbert...
  
  Speaking about Gary Halbert...if you read his
  newsletter archives, you might have came across
  sales copy done by his secretary, Theresa.
  
  You can see a sample yourself here:
  http://www.thegaryhalbertletter.com/...denWriting.pdf
  
  Compelling read, isn't it? Even Gary Halbert himself thinks so.
  
  The funny thing is that Theresa isn't even
  a copywriter. But she became so good at it -
  even unknowingly to her - because she has simply
  been typing out all of Gary Halbert's sales copy
  for a long time.
  
  Gary's style was "burned" into her subconscious just
  by virtue of being constantly exposed to it for a
  prolonged period.
  
  Amazing. Just wanted to share.
  
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MikeHumphreys

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dave d

The main reason I posed this question is because everybody always say something like "you should read that book by John Carlton" or "This book by Dan Kennedy" or "study all the copy written by Halbert". Maybe all the women are just keeping a low profile, apart from that one that likes to scream a lot on daytime tv.

Completely different. It's self-promotion and best at teaching copywriting vs. best writing skills.

You're talking about the people who have done the best job promoting (marketing) their books and brand. Halbert's stuff is solid but I think he gets mentioned as much as he does because he has so many free to read newsletters on his website.

There are alot of great copywriters (male and female) who don't have a 'learn copywriting' book or course and have no desire to create one.

Really, if your goal is to learn copywriting, the gender of your teacher is irrelevant.

Take care,

Mike

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Frank Scherer

14 years ago

There's loads of female copywriters out there doing great work.

The fact is thought that a person doesn't have to be female to write content that's targeted for female buyers.

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colmodwyer

14 years ago

A female freelancer had a 4-year control at the company I work for... historically, this is probably our best-selling product too, so it's likely a lot of folk (men) would have tried to beat that letter and failed.

Also, the copy director at Casey Research is a lady.

In the financial niche it's about 75% male buyers, so being a successful copywriter in it - without having a wiener - is pretty bad ass!

Colm

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