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WTF - How 'bout you!? Warning: This is a RANT!

by Greg Stack
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I just don't think I can take it much longer.
Do we really need a language anymore to communicate with each other?
Really?? What's the point?

I was just checking out a company's website that sells websites on Flippa.com.

Header copy: Quality Detailed Oreiented.
Anyhow, if you need to sell a website, they are quite intrested!

Thanks for listening friends.

Here is some rancid sh*t that has been getting under my skin lately:
1. Rampant misspelled & misused words throughout PLR products and websites
2. Same for IM mass emails
3. Emails from IMs with "Payment Sent" as subject
4. Sales/Squeeze pages that tell me that it is not my fault that I'm not yet a millionaire from my internet marketing efforts. (Yes, it is my fault!)
5. Website sellers who refer to their graphics as gorgeous. Not sure why, just sounds ridiculous to me. My fiancee is gorgeous (at least, I think so), my website graphics are cool, eye-catching, etc.
6. Broke my toe last week and it is throbbing.

I have been working on a new product release but I think I will put it on hold and put together one concerning the importance of that little red squiggly line that appears under misspelled words: Underground Squiggly Red Line Secrets Revealed, or perhaps, The Squiggly Red Line Code. Look for it soon in the WSO's!!

Anyone else?
#bout #rant #rush is a band #warning #wtf
  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    Bro...

    Don't they give you some kind of pain medication for that throbbing?

    I hear methodone mellows people out a fair bit

    In seriousness... most people DO want to hear that it's not their fault... so you're in the minority there.

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    • Profile picture of the author Greg Stack
      No doubt, or maybe just a shot of cheap scotch. I need something to mellow me out just a tad. (Now that I ponder it, Methadone is usually used to assist good folks to kick a heroin addiction.) At any rate, it isn't my fault that I broke the toe, mind you.

      Anyhow, my apologies. I know my posts should add value (even if it's 2:00 am.)

      At any rate, thanks for the response.

      BTW, I just checked out your sales page, and that is GOOD stuff, man. That is real copywriting!!

      Let's talk. I have some projects coming up soon.
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      • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
        Greg, you can be relieved to know the broken toe you suffer from IS NOT YOUR FAULT and you have a legitimate personal injury claim against whatever (or whoever) you hit your toe against.

        It's cost you time, frustration, money and loss of happiness--as well as peace of mind. You've unfortunately been compromised.

        Now's the time to file a claim. To learn more about how you can be compensated for your pain and suffering, contact me at xxx-xxx-xxxxx.

        (Just kidding. )

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        • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
          Originally Posted by SwiftKickMedia View Post

          No doubt, or maybe just a shot of cheap scotch. I need something to mellow me out just a tad. (Now that I ponder it, Methadone is usually used to assist good folks to kick a heroin addiction.) At any rate, it isn't my fault that I broke the toe, mind you.

          Anyhow, my apologies. I know my posts should add value (even if it's 2:00 am.)

          At any rate, thanks for the response.

          BTW, I just checked out your sales page, and that is GOOD stuff, man. That is real copywriting!!

          Let's talk. I have some projects coming up soon.
          Greg
          No need to apologize. Rants are good sometimes. I just like to add some humor to the proceedings where possible.

          And thanks for the compliment.

          Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post

          Greg, you can be relieved to know the broken toe you suffer from IS NOT YOUR FAULT and you have a legitimate personal injury claim against whatever (or whoever) you hit your toe against.

          It's cost you time, frustration, money and loss of happiness--as well as peace of mind. You've unfortunately been compromised.

          Now's the time to file a claim. To learn more about how you can be compensated for your pain and suffering, contact me at xxx-xxx-xxxxx.

          (Just kidding. )

          - Rick Duris
          Quite possibly one of the best posts this year.

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  • Profile picture of the author Greg Stack
    Damn right Rick! Your encouragement during this dark time is appreciated.

    Actually, I think I will be happier, once I get off my (insert appropriate body part reference here) and get my project done! If only TimeWarner would disconnect my Internet access for a couple of days...

    I checked out your site. You have a great outlook.
    Wish you the best.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      6. Broke my toe last week and it is throbbing.
      Your toe hurts so everything ticks you off, right? My doctor's advice - take two aspirin and in the morning call someone who cares (of course, he only says that when he's off duty:p) .

      Hope tomorrow's a better toe day.

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    • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
      What is the difference between his Outlook and the run of the mill Microsoft version.

      Originally Posted by SwiftKickMedia View Post

      I checked out your site. You have a great outlook.
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  • Profile picture of the author CurtisN
    1 & 2: Bugs the hell out of me too. I'm a stickler for speling and grammers.

    3: This kind of stuff is really lame. The people who use these types of headlines probably don't care too much about their subscribers.

    4. Also lame. That's fact, not opinion

    5. Gorgeous is just another adjective used to describe beauty. Would you be pissed if someone called their graphics "pretty", "cute", "nice looking", "hot", "sexy", or "stunning"? I think you're being a little too picky

    You raise valid criticisms! I wouldn't call that "being negative" at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg Stack
      Originally Posted by CurtisN View Post


      5. Gorgeous is just another adjective used to describe beauty. Would you be pissed if someone called their graphics "pretty", "cute", "nice looking", "hot", "sexy", or "stunning"? I think you're being a little too picky

      You raise valid criticisms! I wouldn't call that "being negative" at all.

      Curtis,
      Yes, maybe you are correct. I'm probably being too picky on that one. I was trolling through Flippa, and it seemed like 20% of the listings were using that word. Maybe that is why it annoyed me so. Sometimes an individual will grab a word from the thesaurus to be a bit different, and then others begin to copy that.

      There are a number of common phrases that appear in many sales letters. No doubt, there are certain words and phrases that are moti      vating and tend to be call-to-action oriented, but, I think sometimes it is tempting to just plug in phrases that are tired and overworked. There's just no substitute for getting inside the prospect's head and learning and speaking to their needs and desires. Then they will beg to buy (or at least stay on a page for more than 15 seconds, lol.)

      What does the prospect desire? If, for example, the site is a money-making opp, is it money that they want? Perhaps. That is a surface, or Tier 1 desire/need. Deeper, below the surface (Tier 2), perhaps, they really want freedom, a feeling of success and peace, relief from the stress of being broke and deeply in debt, less time spent chasing a dollar and more time spent creating a life that is meaningful, etc. Sincerely speak (and sell) to those deep, Tier 2 needs, and con      versions can increase dramatically.

      Anyhow, I digress ... again!
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  • Profile picture of the author Lauryn
    Originally Posted by SwiftKickMedia View Post

    I just don't think I can take it much longer.
    Do we really need a language anymore to communicate with each other?
    Really?? What's the point?

    I was just checking out a company's website that sells websites on Flippa.com.

    Header copy: Quality Detailed Oreiented.
    Anyhow, if you need to sell a website, they are quite intrested!

    Thanks for listening friends.

    Here is some rancid sh*t that has been getting under my skin lately:
    1. Rampant misspelled & misused words throughout PLR products and websites
    2. Same for IM mass emails
    3. Emails from IMs with "Payment Sent" as subject
    4. Sales/Squeeze pages that tell me that it is not my fault that I'm not yet a millionaire from my internet marketing efforts. (Yes, it is my fault!)
    5. Website sellers who refer to their graphics as gorgeous. Not sure why, just sounds ridiculous to me. My fiance is gorgeous (at least, I think so), my website graphics are cool, eye-catching, etc.
    6. Broke my toe last week and it is throbbing.

    I have been working on a new product release but I think I will put it on hold and put together one concerning the importance of that little red squiggly line that appears under misspelled words: Underground Squiggly Red Line Secrets Revealed, or perhaps, The Squiggly Red Line Code. Look for it soon in the WSO's!!

    Anyone else?
    Will you be offering review copies :p
    Lol @ 5: I like the word gorgeous as a description.

    I am very anti-crap quality, as you can see. I am taking forever to work on my projects due to this refusal to publish or design junk!
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    I Go Hard = "Slanguage" for putting forth a lot of effort.

    Don't be an arse and try to flip something you clearly have no knowledge of against me.

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    • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
      Greg,

      Something else to consider...

      Solving other peoples problems is
      ONLY GOOD if you are doing it for
      your clients/customers.

      They are the ones paying for your living and lifestyle.

      All the best,
      Ewen
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg Stack
        Originally Posted by ewenmack View Post

        Greg,

        Something else to consider...

        Soling other peoples problems is
        ONLY GOOD if you are doing it for
        your clients/customers.

        They are the ones paying for your liing and lifestyle.

        All the best,
        Ewen
        Ewen,

        Hey, you are dead on.
        When I was just out of college, broke, recently married and a child on the way, I was struggling with a new photography business. My work was of high quality (gorgeous work, actually), and my pricing was reasonable, but I just wasn't making ends meet. I was on the road constantly so I had many lonely miles with nothing but my gear and a Zig Ziglar, See You At The Top, tape series.

        I must have listened to those same 12 tapes 100 times. Zig, among others of course, teaches that until you place the needs of others ahead of your own, success will not come.

        When I had an attitude change, my sales skyrocketed. When my motivation to sell portraits (I photographed families and children, primarily) was because my electric bill was past due, sales suffered. But then a change came. I started to believe in the importance and value of my product. I began to realize how important it was to people to have portraits of their families as their children grew older; as a record of the most important times of their lives. I reminded them that twenty years from that point, that those portraits would still be on the wall, or in an album, etc. (I should really be working right now...) But I said that because I believed it, not because I wanted to make a fast buck. People pick up on that and it becomes real and not manipulation.

        At any rate, there is no better time that RIGHT NOW to grab the opportunities that we have to help others. Folks are struggling and hurting and if we can bring to market, true solutions and strategies to help them increase their incomes, then we are truly making a difference as we increase our own incomes.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg Stack
      Originally Posted by Lauryn View Post

      Will you be offering review copies :p
      Lol @ 5: I like the word gorgeous as a description.

      I am very anti-crap quality, as you can see. I am taking forever to work on my projects due to this refusal to publish or design junk!
      Lauryn,

      LOL! I promise I will send you the first review copy!
      And, I think I have been overruled with regard to the usage of gorgeous.
      I officially relinquish that point.
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  • Profile picture of the author hawkhill88
    I am SO on your wavelength with all the items on your list, except for the "gorgeous" graphics, a term I'm still mulling over. Maybe it's the alliteration they like? Can illiterates alliterate? I don't know, and that's probably my fault.

    Can we add "talk soon" and "see you on the other side" to the list? This from people I've never talked to and never will. And "on the other side" of what? That's just creepy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg Stack
      Originally Posted by hawkhill88 View Post

      I am SO on your wavelength with all the items on your list, except for the "gorgeous" graphics, a term I'm still mulling over. Maybe it's the alliteration they like? Can illiterates alliterate? I don't know, and that's probably my fault.

      Can we add "talk soon" and "see you on the other side" to the list? This from people I've never talked to and never will. And "on the other side" of what? That's just creepy.
      Another vote for gorgeous. Ok, ok...

      I agree, let's add them to the list. Those are real gems. Seems like I remember a psychic who broadcast a tv program for awhile. (Can't remember his name..) He always referred to the dead as being "on the other side." So, while I may, at some point, "see you on the other side," I certainly hope it is not anytime soon. And I certainly hope that it is the place that has central AC!
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  • Profile picture of the author steve m
    Got a link to the company you are talking about?

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Schwenk
    Originally Posted by SwiftKickMedia View Post


    1. Rampant misspelled & misused words throughout PLR products and websites

    6. Broke my toe last week and it is throbbing.

    I have been working on a new product release...Look for it soon in the WSO's!!

    Anyone else?
    "Brake" a leg!
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  • Profile picture of the author deannatroupe
    LOL LOL LOL

    1 & 2. Agree. I hate it when grammar is used incorrectly. I used to critique my ex boyfriend's love letters when I was in high school. I wasn't in AP English by accident. My friends and I would say stuff like "That is a run on sentence." LOL
    3. Just plain annoying. If you have to mislead people to get them to open your emails, you must be selling some crappy stuff.
    4. While I agree with you, it is what most people teach you to put in your sales letters so you can seem sympathetic.
    5. I do like eye catching better than gorgeous.
    6. I hope your toe feels better soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lauryn
    Deanna,

    You really critiqued his love letters?! LMAO!!! awww.
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    I Go Hard = "Slanguage" for putting forth a lot of effort.

    Don't be an arse and try to flip something you clearly have no knowledge of against me.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sailorman
    Just an observation...

    A female person to whom you are engaged is called a fiancee.

    On the other hand, if your engaged partner is a male, the word is fiance is correct.

    Windblown
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg Stack
    Arhghh!
    Does this mean that you aren't going to buy my Squiggly Red Line products when they become WSOs, or do you just want to know whether I'm engaged to a man or a woman?

    BTW, welcome to The Warrior Forum windblown!
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    • Profile picture of the author valleyken
      "So your riding in you're car some day, feeling bigger then life, to happy too be paying attention to the road ..."

      Many internet marketers seem to write like this in their ads, and wonder why they are not getting rich. Granted that my English grammar isn't always the best, since English is not my native language. But that kind of writing makes me seriously doubt that this person has anything to offer that will make me rich. Obviously, they either had no good education, or they were too lazy to pay attention in school. It is not always their fault of course, people all have their own background. But if they can't write any better, then writing salescopy probably isn't the best career choice for them.

      Sadly, I have the impression that a majority of people who try to get rich online, aren't the brightest people. Chasing "to good too be treu" promises of richess, and spending "there" (or is it "they're" )money in the most obvious scams.
      I was actually delighted to find some working brain cells here when I joined the warrior forum recently. There is still some hope for internet marketing, but I sympathise with this thread. If you see this kind of writing often enough, you might start thinking they invented a new language since you left school.

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  • Profile picture of the author Megan Elizabeth
    I absolutely feel your pain! Nothing aggravates me more than people who misspell and/or misuse words, and I hate it when their grammar is atrocious. It's like they just spell check their work, without reading through it, and leave it at that! Sometimes they don't even spell check!!

    I love that you are part of the crowd, like me, who hate hearing "it's not your fault". Of course, people like to pass the blame onto something else or someone else for their problems, which is unfortunate! Own up to your mistakes!!!!

    I loved your rant! Especially the part about your toe, it was completely unexpected and got a chuckle out of me! (Sorry! )

    Megan Elizabeth
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by SwiftKickMedia View Post

    4. Sales/Squeeze pages that tell me that it is not my fault that I'm not yet a millionaire from my internet marketing efforts. (Yes, it is my fault!)
    But you can't tell people that.

    "Are you tired of being a moron who doesn't make any money?"

    Wait a minute... I kind of like that headline...
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  • Profile picture of the author cambric
    I'm there with you! I have just offered my proof writing/fixing skills to a person who sold a product (I purchased) and had a few misspellings and grammar errors. I see this ALL the time! My family teases me about being "anally retentive" when it comes to spelling and grammar.

    Sorry: If you are selling a product or advertising, get it RIGHT!!

    Nice post! I feel your pain.

    Bob
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