Any Recommended Copywriter For ClickBank Product?

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Hey all,

Anyone can recommend a solid copywriter who can
write a high quality, top converting sales copy
for Clickbank products particularly in the financial
trading niche?

I haven't got quite a huge budget so...about $300
to be precise.

Regards
Mister Bryan
#clickbank #copywriter #product #recommended
  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    You may want to check the copywriting forum.
    But for HIGH FINANCE, I can tell you that
    your budget is very low.

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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Sounds like you may need to improve your product.

      If you don't have more than $300 to spend to have a professional copywriter do your copy for a financial trading product, it sounds like maybe the financial trading product doesn't work too well, else you'd have a bigger budget, no?
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Look at it this way, Mister Bryan: do you think the successful Clickbank-page copywriters are experienced, successful professionals, who've had many years of training, researching and perfecting their skills? You'd like your copy to be written by someone fitting that description, wouldn't you?

        How much do a reasonably successful dentist, architect, lawyer or accountant charge for one hour's work? It's about $300, or a little bit more, isn't it - depending on location, of course?

        How many hours' work does your copy represent? How many hours of researching the market and the competition before even a single word's written?

        Successful, professional copywriters will typically take around 40 hours, give or take, for a Clickbank sales page. I know it surprises a lot of potential clients, but it's true.

        Are you starting to see why $300 is probably going to buy you only the services of someone pretending to be a successful copywriter?

        Yes, you can get lucky, of course, and get a $3,000 job done for $300. It happens. You might find an aspiring young star on the way up, who'll be charging $3,000 next year and getting it. But it's seriously against the odds.
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        Sounds like you may need to improve your product.

        If you don't have more than $300 to spend to have a professional copywriter do your copy for a financial trading product, it sounds like maybe the financial trading product doesn't work too well, else you'd have a bigger budget, no?
        This is exactly why even if you DID have a big budget, most copywriters wouldn't touch the project with a barge pole.

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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Hancox
    Hey Bryan

    Don't take people's comments the wrong way. The point they're simply making is you want "high quality, top converting" copy... and you're going to pay them peanuts, relatively speaking.

    How much money do you intend to make with your product?

    All copywriters claim to offer "high quality, top converting" copy. (They're not going to say they suck, are they?)

    The difference between a 1% and a 2% conversion sounds miniscule, right?

    But let's say you have 10,000 visitors, and you make $50 profit per sale.

    10,000 x 1% = 100 sales = $5,000 profit.
    10,000 x 2% = 200 sales = $10,000 profit.

    The difference is a profit of $5,000 or $10,000. Which would you prefer?

    That might be the difference between a $300 and a $3,000 copywriter.

    Sure, you'll get "high quality, top converting" copy for $300. I can tell you, it won't be anywhere near as "top converting" as if you'd hired a $3,000 copywriter.

    Why?

    Because a $3,000 copywriter will put a LOT MORE TIME AND EFFORT into your copy. Plus, they will almost certainly have the skills a $300 copywriter doesn't have (otherwise they'd be charging more, too.)

    Sure, you might not *think* you can afford $3,000 right now... but what if you were to LOSE $5,000 of sales EVERY MONTH, because you hired a $300 copywriter?

    Can you afford to LOSE $50,000 a year because of it?

    Hiring a good copywriter is an INVESTMENT.
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  • Profile picture of the author TracyNeedham
    Hi Mister Bryan,

    Everyone else has already made a lot of great comments. I just want to point out that not only are you talking a highly competitive and technical niche with financial trading...ClickBank is a super competitive market.

    You'll be going head-to-head with sales pages written by copywriters getting paid 10 to even 30+ times more. I'm not saying it's impossible to compete with them with $300 copy...but the likelihood is pretty small.
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  • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
    I would just like to make a point, for those people who actually have the funds to hire a professional, experienced copywriter to really do your home work.

    I think we all stress the fact that $300 to hire a copywriter will get you (unless your lucky) f* all HOWEVER no one seems to have stressed the point that even if you DO have the capital to hire a professional copywriter, make sure they are a professional.

    What I mean by this is, there are a lot of copycats out there, scammers who are just looking for a quick buck at other peoples expenses.

    Be sure to research whether your copywriter has the following:

    Positive Feedback/Testimonials & Conversion Results from Prior Clients

    The last thing I want to hear about is someone through reading the above comments to go and splash out $3,000 on a scammer pretending to be a professional copywriter to then come back with some lame-ass, unconvertible copy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Irish Intuition
      Originally Posted by willyboy104 View Post

      I would just like to make a point, for those people who actually have the funds to hire a professional, experienced copywriter to really do your home work.

      I think we all stress the fact that $300 to hire a copywriter will get you (unless your lucky) f* all HOWEVER no one seems to have stressed the point that even if you DO have the capital to hire a professional copywriter, make sure they are a professional.

      What I mean by this is, there are a lot of copycats out there, scammers who are just looking for a quick buck at other peoples expenses.

      Be sure to research whether your copywriter has the following:

      Positive Feedback/Testimonials & Conversion Results from Prior Clients

      The last thing I want to hear about is someone through reading the above comments to go and splash out $3,000 on a scammer pretending to be a professional copywriter to then come back with some lame-ass, unconvertible copy.
      Agreed

      Also, copywriters should be cautious over accepting a low paying fee
      on a product that's supposed to create wealth.

      A plethora of failed sales pages from crappy products does not help
      them either.
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  • Profile picture of the author Topgunb
    I would consider doing it at around $3000, but since you can't handle that.

    I suggest you do the folloowing.

    Find a way to sweeten the pot for the copywriter.

    I have a few suggestions. Drop me an email Mister Bryan

    Thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author copycashvalve
    The thing that really tickles my funny bone is that it seems that people that come here looking for copywriters have no idea what goes into copy.

    Gary Halbert said that it took him seven years to be a copywriting gangster. SEVEN YEARS TO REACH GANGSTERDOM! Whatever the hell that is, i'll probably never know!

    You think someone even close to his level which could be considered "good" is going to write copy for 300$?
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  • Profile picture of the author copycashvalve
    Ok - ok I'll admit it. I'm a beta sh!tweasel in training and I'll write your sales letter for 300$.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
      Originally Posted by copycashvalve View Post

      Ok - ok I'll admit it. I'm a beta sh!tweasel in training and I'll write your sales letter for 300$.
      PROTIP: The dollar sign goes BEFORE the number.
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      • Profile picture of the author copycashvalve
        Originally Posted by Daniel Scott View Post

        PROTIP: The dollar sign goes BEFORE the number.
        I usually have my assistant proof read my grammer.
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        • Profile picture of the author ARSuarez
          Mister Bryan,

          I have to agree - $300 is piss for a flat fee.

          However, Brian had a good suggestion - sweeten the pot.

          You could offer $300 + 10% gross royalty on profits.

          This way, if you have a decent product for about $99... your copywriter can make about $9.90 on every sale. Multiplied a hundred times, the copywriter would be making $990.

          Multiplied by a thousand, the copywriter scored $9,900 + $300 = $10,000.

          This is just an option, and you'd be surprised how many writers will take it. Using this strategy, the $300 is a "I'm Serious" statement.

          This isn't GREAT, but you can probably entice a fair few young copywriters into it.

          Personally, I love having a high royalty and small fee, so long as the marketing and other details are being executed properly.**

          Hope this helps.

          Best,

          Angel

          PS - I put the bolding and underlining so everyone understands - this is not a good arrangement when your client is completely incompetent at the marketing aspect. If the marketing and traffic sucks, the royalties will be worth $0.
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          • Profile picture of the author copycashvalve
            Originally Posted by ARSuarez View Post

            Mister Bryan,

            I have to agree - $300 is piss for a flat fee.

            However, Brian had a good suggestion - sweeten the pot.

            You could offer $300 + 10% gross royalty on profits.

            This way, if you have a decent product for about $99... your copywriter can make about $9.90 on every sale. Multiplied a hundred times, the copywriter would be making $990.

            Multiplied by a thousand, the copywriter scored $9,900 + $300 = $10,000.

            This is just an option, and you'd be surprised how many writers will take it. Using this strategy, the $300 is a "I'm Serious" statement.

            This isn't GREAT, but you can probably entice a fair few young copywriters into it.

            Personally, I love having a high royalty and small fee, so long as the marketing and other details are being executed properly.**

            Hope this helps.

            Best,

            Angel

            PS - I put the bolding and underlining so everyone understands - this is not a good arrangement when your client is completely incompetent at the marketing aspect. If the marketing and traffic sucks, the royalties will be worth $0.
            Isn't that a joint venture? Now bear in mind I'm just a beta sh!tweasel but I remember hearing Ben Settle say something about it being a joint venture that way.
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            • Profile picture of the author ARSuarez
              Originally Posted by copycashvalve View Post

              Isn't that a joint venture? Now bear in mind I'm just a beta sh!tweasel but I remember hearing Ben Settle say something about it being a joint venture that way.
              Ross,

              He might've. But honestly, I don't consider this a JV. I owned a carpet cleaning biz for a while, and a JV is more like this: I've got a product or service we can sell to your list. There are variables on this, like co-op mailings, endorsements, etc. However, they don't strike me the same way.

              This fee + royalty doesn't involve you being a "partner."

              It's more like a fee for the work, and then continuous pay for the license to use the work.

              Make sense?

              Best,

              Angel
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            • Profile picture of the author MikeHumphreys
              Originally Posted by copycashvalve View Post

              Isn't that a joint venture? Now bear in mind I'm just a beta sh!tweasel but I remember hearing Ben Settle say something about it being a joint venture that way.
              $300 plus 10% royalty is a fee plus royalty deal.

              I've done countless numbers of those types of deals and it can be a real win-win situation for all involved.

              JV deal is typically a straight profits split, like being business partners or co-owners.

              Hope that helps,

              Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author copycashvalve
    Yeah I like it better the way you put it. For some reason, maybe since I'm still green behind the ears; the sound Joint Venture scares me. I'm sure as time goes on and I start needing more co-op for leads I'll be tickled pink to have a nice relationship with a JV.
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  • Profile picture of the author copycashvalve
    Thanks for clearing that up!



    Ross
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