Ryan Deiss Hiring Junior Copywriters

by The Copy Nazi Banned
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Just got this email -
Hi, Ryan Deiss here...

Wanna change your career in 2011?

I currently have 3 positions open in
my business for junior copywriter trainees.

For this position you must relocate to live
and work in Austin TX at my office, with my
staff every day.

You would be part of my team and learn
copy writing direct from the best in the
business.

You would create sales letters, video
scripts and email auto responders series.

As a trainee you would start at a really
crappy salary of $600 a week.

Once you have earned your wings as
a real copywriter (90 days to 6 months)
you would be raised to $42K per year
plus points on your letters sales.

I like to pay people over $100K per year
at a minimum once they are making me
money.

I also offer profit sharing, full medical...etc
after a 90 day probationary period.

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HOW TO APPLY
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It's simple...

Sell me this toy:
AR.Drone by Parrot Now Available at Brookstone!

Just check this cool little gadget out and
watch the video, Then write me a min. 500 word
sales letter, video or email sequence to sell it to me.

Here is a great little sales letter template to follow
from killer copywriter David Frey:
12-Step Foolproof Sales Letter Template

Then email me at ryandeissjobs@gmail.com with
your sales letter attached.

You can add any other information you want in
your email, pics, videos, other writing samples etc.

Good luck and I look forward to meeting you.

- Ryan Deiss

P.S. This is a "Live in Austin" position ONLY so
if you can't relocate please do not apply.
#copywriters #deiss #hiring #junior #ryan
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    • Profile picture of the author Zentech
      Anyone Want To Know How It Feels To Fly? Then Get Ready, Because The Only Thing You'll Be You'll Be Doing Until Further Notice Is Finding Out What It's Like To Be An Eagle.

      From The Desk Of: John Q. Maverick, Flight Instructor


      Dear Pilot-To-Be,

      Let's face it - everybody wants to fly free, soaring through the skies with a bird's eye view of the world. But unless you happen to be an eagle or a fighter pilot, the incredible first-hand experience of flying has been off-limits to "the rest of us" - until now.

      The new Parrot A.R. Drone helicopter changes all of that.

      With nothing more than the AR Drone and your iPad, iPhone, or iPod Touch, you'll be able to experience the thrill of flight from a first-hand perspective.

      Ever wanted to be Tom Cruise from "Top Gun?" Yeah, who hasn't, right?

      Well, get your bomber jackets and aviator shades ready, because the AR Drone is the first game-changing breakthrough in technology that can make it happen in your own backyard, or even in your living room.

      Don't be left out of knowing what it's like to fly free one minute longer - because you don't have to be.

      The AR Drone puts YOU in the pilot's seat of an advanced space-age quadricopter. You'll control everything, and you'll see and feel everything a pilot would. Because that's exactly what you'll be.

      When you get your new AR Drone, what will be the first thing you'll do with it?
      * Will you head straight for the nearest open field and spend a few unforgettable hours finding out how it feels to prowl the skies like a hawk on the hunt?

      * Will you give some family and friends a dizzy spell by surprising them with a few buzz maneuvers and bombing runs out of nowhere?

      * Will you explore your own home or office from a perspective you've never imagined before?

      * Will you sneak off somewhere nobody can find you, because you'll be unable to stop making "dive bomb" sound effects like you did as a kid?

      The possibilities are unlimited, but I don't need to tell you that. Once you see video of the AR Drone in action, you'll see for yourself:

      { { VIDEOS } }

      And here's what some brand new pilots had to say about how it felt to discover the power of flight:

      { { TESTIMONIALS } }

      So, let's cut to the dogfight, so to speak. What would you expect to pay for something like this? What's the value of the experience of flying free? A grand? $500? Fact is, a lot of people pay more than that for flight simulators - which are nothing more than imaginary pixels on a screen.

      But you won't pay that much for the real experience of flight.

      The AR Drone quadricopter, complete with controller app, two integrated onboard video cameras, ultrasonic altimeter, intelligent autopilot software, and built-in WiFi, is just $299.00.

      No, we didn't forget a digit there. Not $1299, but just $299 - if you act fast. We cannot and will not guarantee this price for any period of time. It could be (and probably will be) history next week, or maybe even tomorrow.

      Truth is, we just want to get the AR Drone into people's hands as fast as we can, so they will start raving to everybody they know about the fun they are having. After that happens, you can bet the price is gonna go up.

      For the first time in history, less than $300 can buy you the experience of being a crack fighter ace, an eagle soaring free in the skies, or a combat helicopter pilot. If you've ever raised your eyes to the great blue beyond and wondered what it's like to experience its freedom and mystery, I don't have to tell you anything more.
      100% Iron-Clad Money-Back Guarantee: We are so sure you're going to be blown away by the amazing fun you're having while piloting your new AR Drone that we're standing behind it with a full 90-day money-back guarantee. You're either amazed, or you return it to us for a full refund - no questions asked. It's just that simple.
      Special Offer! Just to make sure we're getting the AR Drone into as many hands as we can as fast as we can, if you act before { { DATE } }, we'll include the following amazing bonuses:

      { { BONUS OFFERS } }

      It's up to you now. Will it be countless hours of Red Baron style airborne fun, or another night of sitcom reruns? All that's standing between you and the joy of taking to the skies is this little button. What would the guys from Top Gun do?

      { { BUY NOW BUTTON } }

      P.S. If you're not quite convinced yet, check this out. I think you'll enjoy it.

      { { FINAL VIDEO } }
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce Wedding
    Ryan is a nice guy, one of the few big-time marketers I respect, though he has made some poor choices in whom he chooses to befriend. This is a good opportunity for a beginner who can move to Austin. It could open a lot of doors for you and Austin has a nice enclave of mid to high level Internet marketers.

    That said, I'm a bit wary of millionaires wanting to pay peanuts. You pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zentech
    I'm going to apply - and just for fun, I'm going to put my sample letter right here in public, for all to see, for better or worse. I think it's more fun that way.

    Incoming...
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  • Profile picture of the author Zentech
    You're absolutely right. It's too long and contains unnecessary things. How about:

    Anyone Want To Know How It Feels To Fly? Then Get Ready, Because The Only Thing You'll Be You'll Be Doing Until Further Notice Is Finding Out What It's Like To Be An Eagle.

    Gets rid of the filler and keeps the punch, I think.

    I changed it to that, in case Ryan looks. Thanks for the feedback, it helped me see something I was missing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jo_Shua
    Zentech, your headline could be better by just cutting almost all of it out except the first part.

    How about this: Ever Dreamt Of How It Might Feel To Fly?

    or

    Ever Dreamt Of Soaring Through The Cotton-Like Clouds?

    Something like that...
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    • Profile picture of the author Zentech
      My only other nitpick is that Top Gun was about fighter jets, and this toy is a helicopter...so the bomber jacket and Tom Cruise reference don't really work.
      True. I thought of this while writing, but couldn't think of any really famous helicopter pilots/movies that everybody knows in popular culture, so I figured the Top Gun thing was best even though it's technically a stretch.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    Zentech, Watch this Jay Abrahams Amazon Copywriting method video - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8937503354639731229#

    then pull up the Amazon product page - Amazon.com: Parrot AR.Drone Quadricopter...Amazon.com: Parrot AR.Drone Quadricopter... Read the reviews. Then write your copy. Forget the "Ever wanted to fly/Top Gun" crap. Start again. The Amazon page is your friend. ;-)

    The AR.Drone remote-control quadricopter is a groundbreaking device combining the best of many worlds, including modeling, video gaming, and augmented reality. The AR.Drone is remote-controlled by an iPhone and features a number of sensors, including a front camera, vertical camera, and an ultrasound altimeter. The AR.Drone can also be used in video games, such as AR.FlyingAce, a dogfight between two AR.Drones.
    And keep this in mind -
    The heart of any headline is PROMISE - major promise
    This line is the key to it -
    The First Quadricopter Controlled by iPhone/iPod touch/iPad


    so it might be something like



    Oh Wow!...look what you can get now -

    An Augmented Reality Quadricopter
    controlled through
    your iPhone, iPod or iPad !!!

    how cool's that!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Oxbloom
    I've got to believe a bold headline promise that even MENTIONS the phrase "augmented reality quadricopter" is going to cause a majority of readers to go into some kind of zombie stupor.

    I walked past a Brookstone, saw this thing in the entrance, and spent twenty minutes standing there watching the promotional video. I never once had that phrase come anywhere near entering my mind.

    Mostly what I thought about was whether I could rationalize spending three hundred bucks on a cool remote control helicopter. Whether I could justify it as adult enough...as a way to recapture some of the fun of my youth...in a hip, new, technological, high-performance way that might not set the wife's teeth *completely* on edge.

    And also, I thought, more than a little bit...damn...this thing is bad-ass.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    it needs a "deck" under the headline - before "how cool's that" to explain what augmented reality is and exactly what a quadricopter is. Unless, of course, kids know what both are. In which case the "AR" will suffice.

    And Oxbloom... the prehead could be "Oh Dude...this is badass!"

    But...you know...I'm not writing the copy. I'm just trying to steer ZenTech in the right direction.

    BTW Oxbloom...you're forgetting something - the pitch is for Ryan Deiss -
    write me a min. 500 word sales letter, video or email sequence to sell it to me
    In which case you could probably say

    Oh Dude...this is badass...check this out

    An AR Quadricopter - you know - an Augmented Reality Four-Bladed Helicopter Drone -
    controlled through your iPhone while you're hanging out with Kern at the bar!
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    • Profile picture of the author Oxbloom
      Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

      BTW Oxbloom...you're forgetting something - the pitch is for Ryan Deiss - In which case you could probably say [FONT=Impact][SIZE=6]
      Me?

      I'm not forgetting anything.

      I'm merely giving my impressions from when I saw the helicopter thing, in case they can help somebody out.

      As well as, to a lesser extent, giving my impressions vis a vis some of the impressions already given, as a potential consumer for the product AND an age-demographic sharer with the target audience (i.e., Ryan).

      If they don't help anyone, they don't help anyone. But not sure why they wouldn't, when all they are is honest feedback on the product under question.

      It's almost like I'm one of those amazon.com reviews you were talking about, except that I posted mine here, AND talked about what was going on in my head the moment I was making the buying/non-buying decision.
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      • Profile picture of the author Zentech
        Zach,

        ... And on a side note I won one of these things and can't wait to test it out.
        Lucky... hehe. It really does seem like an awesome toy. Writing for it made me want one, lol.

        Let us know how it goes. The things have got to be a blast.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Maschke
    This is a cool exercise.

    You can still use the military as an example to give the mind something to relate to, but it will have to be a "futuristic", "black-budget" type of feeling to the writing.

    "Get behind the controls of a drone so advanced, even the U.S. military doesn't have anything this powerful it it's fleet"

    If I had a budget to do a video, I would start out with with footage of a real predator drone gathering intelligence, then fade into the video display screen of the toy, then fade to a father and son playing with the toy in a park on a sunny day. Pan out and watch a bunch of people gathering around the people flying the toy.

    I built a remote control airplane when I was a kid, so I'll give you some things I would want to see in a letter...

    Durable
    easy to fly
    easy to assemble
    fun to fly, and fun to watch if i'm not at the controls

    ZenTech's letter would pull me in
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by David Maschke View Post

      This is a cool exercise.

      You can still use the military as an example to give the mind something to relate to, but it will have to be a "futuristic", "black-budget" type of feeling to the writing.

      "Get behind the controls of a drone so advanced, even the U.S. military doesn't have anything this powerful it it's fleet"

      If I had a budget to do a video, I would start out with with footage of a real predator drone gathering intelligence, then fade into the video display screen of the toy, then fade to a father and son playing with the toy in a park on a sunny day. Pan out and watch a bunch of people gathering around the people flying the toy.

      I built a remote control airplane when I was a kid, so I'll give you some things I would want to see in a letter...

      Durable
      easy to fly
      easy to assemble
      fun to fly, and fun to watch if i'm not at the controls

      ZenTech's letter would pull me in
      You're not following the brief. You're pitching Ryan Deiss - not the world. You're trying to get HIM to buy.
      Sell me this toy:
      AR.Drone by Parrot Now Available at Brookstone!

      Just check this cool little gadget out and
      watch the video, Then write me a min. 500 word
      sales letter, video or email sequence to sell it to me.
      ZenTech's copy is...in a word...lame (sorry mate). I'm not going to dissect it all but for starters the headline is rubbish. Never ever address "Anyone". Keep it close and personal. Use "You". And in this case it's very personal because you're pitching directly to Ryan Deiss. No one else. You have to convince him and him alone to rush out and buy this thing. So this headline doesn't cut it. You'll also note that he's repeated "you'll". You all see that?

      Anyone Want To Know How It Feels To Fly? Then Get Ready, Because The Only Thing You'll Be You'll Be Doing Until Further Notice Is Finding Out What It's Like To Be An Eagle.

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      • Profile picture of the author David Maschke
        Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

        You're not following the brief. You're pitching Ryan Deiss - not the world. You're trying to get HIM to buy.
        Your attention to detail has always been a real pain in the BLEEP, but it's the same thing that makes your posts interesting to read I wish I could hire you

        Let's try it again...

        Subject: hey, what's up ryan?

        your last launch was pretty cool.

        Hey, I had a cool idea for your next video that will
        provide a cool "proof" element

        There's a cool new remote control helicopter that just came out, and you should take advantage of it...

        {email link here...}

        The idea is, fly it and take a video of the property you own. Then send it to your friends and have them take video of their homes too.

        That would be a great video to show the Internet marketing lifestyle. cool homes, cool toys, cool freinds and lots of free time to just screw around.

        Dave


        That of course, would be part of an autoresponder series to get ryan to just click on a link. the sales letter would have to do it's job.
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        • Profile picture of the author Zentech
          Watch this Jay Abrahams Amazon Copywriting method video... Forget the "Ever wanted to fly/Top Gun" crap. Start again... I'm just trying to steer ZenTech in the right direction... ZenTech's copy is...in a word...lame (sorry mate). I'm not going to dissect it all but for starters the headline is rubbish.
          Heh... because Ryan's going to be looking at this, if I didn't know better, I'd think somebody was trying to kill my chances. I mean, someone can't PM me that they think it's garbage? And did I ask for critiques here? Sure hope he doesn't scroll down, lol. I think this is kind of odd, though:

          ZenTech's letter would pull me in
          That's what David Maschke said before he was told the letter was rubbish. Guess he'd have to ask for a refund on the basis - "whoops, failed to realized sales letter was bad until after buying."

          Appreciate the feedback, though. I'm sure much of it is valuable. And I'm the one who chose to do my pitch here, anyway, so it's on me ultimately. Left myself open for it, really.

          Not too worried anyway, as he's looking for for junior copywriters and starting them at low pay. That suggests to me that he's looking for people who he can teach his preferred style of copywriting rather than people who are coming in with a lot of pre-conceived notions. Could be completely wrong, though. If I am, then life goes on. Not going to freak out about it in any case. I'm leaving something unsaid in all of this, anyway.

          I did consider personally addressing it to Ryan, but ended up decided not to go that route. Mistake? Maybe. We'll see. I stand by the pitch I did and if it's crap, then I won't hear from Ryan. That's life - can't expect a 100% conversion rate even if you're the best.
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          • Profile picture of the author Zach Booker
            Originally Posted by Zentech View Post

            Heh... because Ryan's going to be looking at this, if I didn't know better, I'd think somebody was trying to kill my chances. I mean, someone can't PM me that they think it's garbage? And did I ask for critiques here? Sure hope he doesn't scroll down, lol.

            Appreciate the feedback, though. I'm sure much of it is valuable. And I'm the one who chose to do my pitch here, anyway, so it's on me ultimately. Left myself open for it, really.

            Not too worried anyway, as he's looking for for junior copywriters and starting them at low pay. That suggests to me that he's looking for people who he can teach his preferred style of copywriting rather than people who are coming in with a lot of pre-conceived notions. Could be completely wrong, though. If I am, then life goes on.

            I did consider personally addressing it to Ryan, but ended up decided not to go that route. Mistake? Maybe. We'll see. I stand by the pitch I did and if it's crap, then I won't hear from Ryan. That's life - can't expect a 100% conversion rate even if you're the best.
            Just write another one and submit it. But attach it as a PDF or Word doc not linking him to the forum if that's what you did.
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            • Profile picture of the author Zentech
              Just write another one and submit it. But attach it as a PDF or Word doc not linking him to the forum if that's what you did.
              Thanks, but I'm fine with things the way they are.

              I did this on purpose (posting it here that is). Mistake? Quite possibly, but oh well. It's not something I'm losing sleep over one way or the other. The idea was to do a unique sort of application by exposing the sample pitch to public criticism, and that's definitely what I got.

              After all, aren't the letters written by whoever Ryan hires going to have face public criticism, as well as criticism from Ryan himself? I mean, if I don't have the guts to let it be trashed by Mal, then how am I going to write for Ryan when mistakes could cost him money?

              So really, I guess I got what I asked for. It might kill my application but that's the chance I took - on purpose. Just the way my mind works, for better or worse.

              I highly doubt Deiss will look at this thread. He outsources that kind of stuff.
              Yep, you could be right. If so, then he might see it someday when he (or staff) is Googling, I guess. Hehe.
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          • Profile picture of the author Bruce Wedding
            Originally Posted by Zentech View Post

            Heh... because Ryan's going to be looking at this, if I didn't know better, I'd think somebody was trying to kill my chances. I mean, someone can't PM me that they think it's garbage? And did I ask for critiques here? Sure hope he doesn't scroll down, lol. I think this is kind of odd, though:
            Dude, you're the one that dropped your pants here. What compelled you to post it here in the first place when Ryan asked that you email him?
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      • Profile picture of the author Marvin Johnston
        Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

        You're not following the brief. You're pitching Ryan Deiss - not the world. You're trying to get HIM to buy.
        Good point!

        Something I see missing from *all* of the responses is doing a bit of research to find out what Ryan Deiss likes, and what his hot buttons might be. And then personalizing the sales letter.

        Marvin
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Roy
    I'd just send Ryan the helicopter and give him a bill along with it.

    Better yet, I'll buy one and fly it over to his place with a little note on it that says, "dude, you should buy this thing it's badass, go to this link"
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    Here's another one just for fun. Addressed to Ryan Deiss directly.


    "Dude...stick your head out the window. To the east. See that thing coming over the treetops? That's a drone Dude - a Parrot AR Quadricopter to be precise. A badass four-bladed helicopter running an augmented reality program and controlled by Frank Kern's iPhone. He's coming for you bud. You know Frank - he's always got the best toys. And I gotta say - this one is dope.

    Is that your doorbell Dude? That'll be your drone that Frank's sent over from Brookstone. You owe him $299.99. Just hook it up to your WI-FI and you're good to do battle with Frank's drone. May the best man win. Oh yeah - it's got two built-in video cameras too - one for vertical shots and the other looking straight ahead. Whack the clip up on YouTube when you get a chance.

    Best, ZenTech - your new Junior Copywriter."
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    • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
      Mal has just delivered a master class lesson on how to lock the reader into using it,
      or anything that you sell.

      Don't under estimate what he's written.

      That's all I can say.

      Best,
      Ewen

      Originally Posted by The Copy Nazi View Post

      Here's another one just for fun. Addressed to Ryan Deiss directly.


      "Dude...stick your head out the window. To the east. See that thing coming over the treetops? That's a drone Dude - a Parrot AR Quadricopter to be precise. A badass four-bladed helicopter running an augmented reality program and controlled by Frank Kern's iPhone. He's coming for you bud. You know Frank - he's always got the best toys. And I gotta say - this one is dope.

      Is that your doorbell Dude? That'll be your drone that Frank's sent over from Brookstone. You owe him $299.99. Just hook it up to your WI-FI and you're good to do battle with Frank's drone. May the best man win. Oh yeah - it's got two built-in video cameras too - one for vertical shots and the other looking straight ahead. Whack the clip up on YouTube when you get a chance.

      Best, ZenTech - your new Junior Copywriter."
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  • Profile picture of the author Zach Booker
    If your on the fence about at least applying I highly suggest you do.

    I've had the pleasure of dealing with a lot of people in Ryan's office and anyone who gets to work in the same office is in for a treat.

    ... And on a side note I won one of these things and can't wait to test it out. Mal's copy just makes me want it even more.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Maschke
    I highly doubt Deiss will look at this thread. He outsources that kind of stuff.

    I heard he has so much money, he outsources going to the park to have fun. It's on elance. You then have to write back and tell him if he had fun or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    Zentech, when I first started writing copy a long while ago my boss rejected pretty much every piece of copy I passed over his desk. I grew to hate the sonofabitch. But he was a great writer. I kept going, he kept rejecting but eventually he looked up from the latest bit of copy and said 'Nice work Lambe...tell the A.D. we're running with your idea" then he reached in his drawer and pulled out a dirty great cigar and threw it at me. I felt a great weight lift from my shoulders.

    After work I headed for the nearest bar, bought a pint of beer, lit up the cigar and then spent half an hour in the john throwing up.

    Never be precious about your copy. Copy can always be improved. If you think I'm being harsh here then you're in the wrong game.

    BTW what I gave you in that Jay Abraham Amazon Copywriting Method video is absolute GOLD. Seems like you haven't even bothered to watch it. A pity. You can lead a horse to water...

    As for your assertion
    if I didn't know better, I'd think somebody was trying to kill my chances.
    Why the hell would you think that? Grow up. And grow a pair while you're at it. I'm the O.P. remember? I didn't post this as some kind of put-down exercise. Or to show what a fine writer I am. And why would I PM you with a critique? Others can learn from what we're all discussing here. You're the dill that whacked it up here. Bad luck that you can't take criticism and your feelings are hurt. What do you think it's going to be like working for Ryan huh? You think he's got time to mollycoddle you? I very much doubt it. And wasn't it you who said -

    I'm going to put my sample letter right here in public, for all to see, for better or worse. I think it's more fun that way.
    You're right - it is more fun. Pity you don't see it that way.

    Anyway...to the others - I think the input is great. Keep it coming. And for God's sake if you think something's crap - say its crap. But be prepared to say why you think it crap. This is how it works in the real world. It's a hell of a lot different that sitting in your bedroom thinking up killer headlines to run past your Mummy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zentech
      Never be precious about your copy. Copy can always be improved. If you think I'm being harsh here then you're in the wrong game.
      No no, I agree. You could be absolutely right and the copy could be crap. I happen to think it's decent, but that's just me. What either one of us thinks doesn't really matter in this case (or really in any other), does it? It's what the market (in this case Ryan Deiss) thinks that is all that matters.

      Will he agree with you? He very well could. Time will tell. I'm not crying about anything here. I asked for this, but I guess I was just a little taken aback by how aggressively you trashed it right in front of everyone (Deiss or his staff potentially included). That's just human nature, though. I'm over it.

      What I gave you in that Jay Abraham Amazon Copywriting Method video is absolute GOLD. Seems like you haven't even bothered to watch it. A pity. You can lead a horse to water...
      Dude, I've been at WF for less than an hour today. I have not watched it yet, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to. I actually set aside some time this evening for it.

      Why the hell would you think that? Grow up. And grow a pair while you're at it. I'm the O.P. remember? I didn't post this as some kind of put-down exercise. Or to show what a fine writer I am. And why would I PM you with a critique? Others can learn from what we're all discussing here. Bad luck that you can't take criticism and your feelings are hurt. What do you think it's going to be like working for Ryan huh? You think he's got time to mollycoddle you? I very much doubt it.
      I understand your point (and agree with it), but is there really a need for that kind of tone? Are you paying me? Am I getting checks signed with your name on them? If not, then why are you talking to me in that tone?

      Seriously...

      It's a hell of a lot different that sitting in your bedroom thinking up killer headlines to run past your Mummy.
      I guess maybe you figure that's what I do, eh?

      Okay. Fair enough Mal... we're all grown people here and if this Billy Badass routine is the kind of stuff you want to dish out (for whatever reason), I can take it. You're absolutely right that the real world is a tough place... I think maybe I know a little more about that than you realize, but suit yourself.

      And I do sincerely thank you for this, by the way. You're a talented guy who writes well and knows what he is talking about. Your feedback *is* valuable to me, even if it comes with a few slaps in the face.
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    • Profile picture of the author NickN
      Originally Posted by The Copy Nazi View Post


      After work I headed for the nearest bar, bought a pint of beer, lit up the cigar and then spent half an hour in the john throwing up.
      Sorry to keep bumping this old thread -- but what a great mental image.
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        Originally Posted by NickN View Post

        Sorry to keep bumping this old thread -- but what a great mental image.
        I didn't know you're not supposed to inhale the cigar smoke. Doh!
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        • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
          Originally Posted by The Copy Nazi View Post

          I didn't know you're not supposed to inhale the cigar smoke. Doh!
          Geez I didn't know that either...then again I always thought
          cigar smokers looked silly so never gave the finer intracies
          of smoking those fat smokers a second thought.

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            Originally Posted by ewenmack View Post

            Geez I didn't know that either...then again I always thought
            cigar smokers looked silly so never gave the finer intracies
            of smoking those fat smokers a second thought.

            Best,
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  • Profile picture of the author David Maschke
    Zentech,

    Good recovery bro

    Nice show of professionalism
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  • Profile picture of the author Vincenzo Oliva
    The Amazon method works well with a product like this toy. You can clearly identify the markets top frustrations and go after them. "Lousy instructions" "Doesn't work" "breaks fast (1st fly)" "hard to control"....etc.
    and what they liked best "the joy on my son's face"......."the time we spent together playing with this...."
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Carter
    For anyone applying to that job here is a big tip for you.

    When I look at the helicopter offer, the thing that struck me as the Unique Selling Proposition for it is the fact that I can fly the thing all over the place outside while I am sitting in my armchair in my living room with my feet propped up. I would include that in my headline.

    Later,
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    • Profile picture of the author jukeboxhero
      Here's my take on the A.R. Drone.

      Is You Or Someone You Love...

      Unhappy With Traditional Christmas Gifts?

      "Been Searching For a Proper Way to Not Only Destroy Your Kids Christmas, but Vaporize His Belief In Santa As Well..."


      Dear Mr. Scrooge,

      If the thought of your 4 year old son having another "Merry Christmas" makes you wanna gargle Drano, then this will be the most electrifying message you'll ever read, because I've discovered (quite by accident) a four bladed dream crusher that will vaporize your child's Santa fixation forever...

      Here's the story: to be cont...
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  • Profile picture of the author Zentech
    Since it's been a while, I think it's safe to say what I "left unsaid" earlier. I never wanted the job, as I don't do regular employment. Just wanted to see if I could get a bite on it, for the hell of it. Apparently the "post the sample at WF angle" did not work, which is fine because it admittedly wasn't what the ad called for. Didn't really expect it to work, just a shot in the dark, and no skin off my back as I wasn't interested in the job but rather just seeing if I could make something happen. Not this time, it seems. Oh well.
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  • Profile picture of the author FranciscoDancon
    When I looked at this the first thing that came to my mind way: Wow, this is going to be a great way to impress people and be the center of attention!

    When you are selling someone something like a toy helicopter, they're not actually buying a helicopter. They're buying a feeling. Either a warm and fuzzy feeling of seeing their kid enjoy something, the approval of their spouse (i.e. good job honey, you got the kid a toy he loves) or if they want it for themselves, they're buying it because they can use it to get attention.

    The fact that it runs via iPhone means you're really using it to get attention. No five year old has an iPhone.

    So shouldn't the headline be selling that benefit?

    "Everyone Wants To Be Friends With A Man Who Owns a Helicopter"

    Just a thought....
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  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    For this position you must relocate to live
    and work in Austin TX at my office, with my
    staff every day.
    I just saw this thread now, but that's ok.
    I didn't want want to live in his office anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author davemiz
    rule of thumb with advertising: never get married to your ideas.

    twisted for copywriters: never fall in love with your copy.

    as much as it pains me to admit... lol mal is 100% correct... (and trying to help you) learn to take criticism and grow a pair... this isn't for the weak of heart.
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