What's The Psychology Behind Your Copywriting?

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Hi all!

Most anyone that works with copy knows the basic attention grab/call to action/headlines/benefits/etc that have to be in place to get general copy down and have any sort of effect.

But when I look at beautifully constructed sales copy, I can sense the masterful flow of leading, growing, and building emotions that result in conversions. It's not just a letter, it's a work of art.

Now, I'm sure many of you were already aware that psychology heavily plays into good copy, that's no news. But I'm curious how many of you actually construct the copy first with the psychology in mind, and if you do so (in general terms), what are your methods?

I personally attempt to walk myself through the shoes of the customer and experience the emotion related with the problem, and the steps I would go through as it was revealed to me this problem could be solved with x. I then go back over those steps and construct my copy accordingly.

What about you? Do you first try to lead yourself through the emotions, do you pull from experiencing other's emotions, or do you guess, tweak, and test as you go? I'd love to hear what my fellow copy experts have to say

~ Danielle Lynn
#copy #copywriting #copywriting psychology #psychology #sales psychology
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross James
    The message is in the headline.

    The human brain stops performing on average around 7 chunks of stimuli - plus or minus two.

    It's also closely related to Milton H. Ericksons little-known conversational hypnosis pattern, that was later adopted in NLP as nested loops.

    It's one of the few NLP copywriting techniques that i've learned in the past few months that actually works if you do it the right way.

    There is a lot more on it, but really not the expert behind explaining it.

    You basically use it to distract the people that tend to think "away" rather than "toward" something, much like your offer.

    Hope that helps,

    Ross
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    • Profile picture of the author Antonios
      I consider that copywriting is somewhat complex.

      You need to really train and experience it.

      Probably, you have to be born with the "instinct".

      Up to now I have tried it, but need a lot of improving.

      There is a software into the $100.oo that says that it can manage the psychology of copywriting. That it is different from those selling for $27.oo.

      I don't know if there is a real difference besides the price. I am thinking on buying it. Then there is the "how to influence prospects into buying".

      In reality, copywriting is against grammar principles since selling or buying is an emotional behavior and not a logical one.

      If not true, scammers, rip off artists, and con artists wouldn't exist. And, most of the time the same con artists repeat and people keep believing in them. Any politicians mentioned?

      If you can master the control of emotions on other people in the written word or through a video, you can master salesmanship online or offline.

      Sincerely,

      Antonios
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  • Profile picture of the author DanielleLynnCopy
    Ross, I'm a little thrown off by your explanation. Are you suggesting that you use implication to cause their minds to wander on their own rather than directly lead them with words?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross James
      Originally Posted by DanielleLynnCopy View Post

      Ross, I'm a little thrown off by your explanation. Are you suggesting that you use implication to cause their minds to wander on their own rather than directly lead them with words?
      Not exactly, actually not at all. It's used in the minds of people that think 'away' by turning off their critical state and lead them into a 'toward' attitude.

      It's hard to explain on paper because apparently it isn't resonating well enough with you, but as Antonio pointed out, it really needs to be experienced to really get a grasp on it.

      Sorry that didn't help,

      Ross
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      • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
        My psychology is:

        1) I need to do as much research as I can. Immerse yourself in your customers world

        2) I feel lazy - so I better start re-writing what I did - right away. And I will cancel everything I wrote and start from scratch - until I know this copy will make money.
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      • Profile picture of the author DanielleLynnCopy
        Originally Posted by Ross James View Post

        Not exactly, actually not at all. It's used to create the people that think 'away' to turn off their critical state of mind into a 'toward' attitude.

        It's hard to explain on paper because apparently it isn't resonating well enough with you, but as Antonio pointed out, it really needs to be experienced to really get a grasp on it.

        Sorry that didn't help,

        Ross
        Ross, I see - I think I understand the method you're talking about, if it's what I think it is, I've just been having a hard time understanding the way you're trying to explain it here.

        But I truly appreciate your efforts to explain it to me.
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  • I believe that people want to think of you as a real person - the more hype, the less believable you are. Be 'chatty' and share info about yourself - as it relates to the product you are promoting e.g. if I am writing about my dog training, I tell them some of the many stories I have to share about me and my dogs. If I am writing about starting up a home based business, I tell them some of the problems (and solutions) that I faced.
    Cheers
    Barb
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  • Profile picture of the author DanielleLynnCopy
    Hi Antonios and Barbara, thank you both for your input as well

    I agree Barbara, every time I see a hyped-up headline, my mind just shuts off. When I feel like I'm dealing with a real person, suddenly I feel more inclined to read on
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  • Profile picture of the author SingerRinging
    I like to start off with a topic of interest, something with a lot of search engine results. Then I talk about that topic like I'm talking to a friend, and include some helpful information that may not be well known. I like to appeal to my "friend" with encouragement about the topic, by making them feel important.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross James
    Originally Posted by Antonios View Post

    I consider that copywriting is somewhat complex. I agree with you here

    You need to really train and experience it. especially here

    Probably, you have to be born with the "instinct". strongly disagree here, although thinking instinctively does improve performance.

    Up to now I have tried it, but need a lot of improving. practicing anything new until you understadnd it makes complete sense. this is the most important distinction that enables you to use it effectively.

    There is a software into the $100.oo that says that it can manage the psychology of copywriting. That it is different from those selling for $27.oo. would love to hear how that worked out for you.

    I don't know if there is a real difference besides the price. I am thinking on buying it. Then there is the "how to influence prospects into buying".

    In reality, copywriting is against grammar principles since selling or buying is an emotional behavior and not a logical one.

    If not true, scammers, rip off artists, and con artists wouldn't exist. And, most of the time the same con artists repeat and people keep believing in them. Any politicians mentioned?

    If you can master the control of emotions on other people in the written word or through a video, you can master salesmanship online or offline.

    Sincerely,

    Antonios
    In response to your post about the NLP distinctions I pointed out above.

    Best,

    Ross
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  • Profile picture of the author DanielleLynnCopy
    Hi Singer Welcome, I appreciate your thoughts.

    So it seems like another vote for the 'build rapport' area of psychology. I like it, but now I'm curious:

    Does anyone have thoughts on this: Who are people more likely to buy from?

    A Friend? Or a Professional?
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    • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
      Originally Posted by DanielleLynnCopy View Post

      Hi Singer Welcome, I appreciate your thoughts.

      So it seems like another vote for the 'build rapport' area of psychology. I like it, but now I'm curious:

      Does anyone have thoughts on this: Who are people more likely to buy from?

      A Friend? Or a Professional?
      A professional friend.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross James
      Originally Posted by DanielleLynnCopy View Post

      Hi Singer Welcome, I appreciate your thoughts.

      So it seems like another vote for the 'build rapport' area of psychology. I like it, but now I'm curious:

      Does anyone have thoughts on this: Who are people more likely to buy from?

      A Friend? Or a Professional?
      Why not seem like the friend that is professional?

      I have to say that I intuitively made that up but it makes sense to me.

      Hope that helped this time,

      Ross
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  • Profile picture of the author jurisaragih
    Harlan Kilstein taught this.
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  • Profile picture of the author DanielleLynnCopy
    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    I consult C. G. Jung, read chicken entrails, and write the fabled Wall Street Journal control piece out by hand while chanting my secret mantra. I am revealing these secrets because no one will act on them. My relationship with the occult will remain intact.

    Let he who has ears hear.

    HEY. I thought those secrets weren't supposed to be revealed outside of the Copywriter's Guild!
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  • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
    The somewhat cryptic, PictoGrigm of Persuasion

    Pictogrigm Of Persuasion

    On the left is ME the copywriter.
    On the right is my target audience.

    I try to meet them on THEIR TRACK going in their direction and use a PreOccupational Interrupter which resonates with what is on their mind at the time of 'meeting' of the minds.

    You'll see Maslow's "Pyramid" on the right side, always on the mind.

    I want to know, sex, age, location, income and where on the Pryamid my product fits...I don't try to sell Rolex watches to people in low income areas.

    The more I know about who my target market is (which is and has been a central theme of almost all my postings at copywriting forums) and what is on her mind at the time she runs over my promotion, all of this "psychology", helps me craft the best possible promotion which will resonate within her and help her make a decision on taking whatever action is called for (not always buying action).

    By using this PictoGrigm (and there are more advanced, Copywriting specific, culled from successful Remote Direct Marketers) of Persuasion and understanding first and foremost it is NOT about what I want (a sale?) BUT it is ALL ABOUT THEM.

    What he/she wants, why, if they can afford it at the time and easiest way to make it happen.

    I (and many successful copywriters who routinely sell massive amounts of product) use this CUSTOMER/ client/Consumer FIRST approach

    that is, whenever I'm the Professional/Provider/Product

    The psychology of putting THEIR interests first, is a good way to see some great results, no matter what other "technique" you think you are applying.

    gjabiz



    Originally Posted by DanielleLynnCopy View Post

    Hi all!

    Most anyone that works with copy knows the basic attention grab/call to action/headlines/benefits/etc that have to be in place to get general copy down and have any sort of effect.

    But when I look at beautifully constructed sales copy, I can sense the masterful flow of leading, growing, and building emotions that result in conversions. It's not just a letter, it's a work of art.

    Now, I'm sure many of you were already aware that psychology heavily plays into good copy, that's no news. But I'm curious how many of you actually construct the copy first with the psychology in mind, and if you do so (in general terms), what are your methods?

    I personally attempt to walk myself through the shoes of the customer and experience the emotion related with the problem, and the steps I would go through as it was revealed to me this problem could be solved with x. I then go back over those steps and construct my copy accordingly.

    What about you? Do you first try to lead yourself through the emotions, do you pull from experiencing other's emotions, or do you guess, tweak, and test as you go? I'd love to hear what my fellow copy experts have to say

    ~ Danielle Lynn
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    Originally Posted by DanielleLynnCopy View Post

    But when I look at beautifully constructed sales copy, I can sense the masterful flow of leading, growing, and building emotions that result in conversions. It's not just a letter, it's a work of art.
    I think you and I should get married. Right now.

    In response to your Q... putting yourself in the prospect's shoes is a good start. Understanding them better than they understand themself is an even better one.

    Then write the copy to allay their fears... reveal their dreams... and maybe hit their pain points.

    Like you said... it's art... and hard to explain on a forum, of all things.

    But one thing you'll notice is the better you get... the more layers you'll see in copy.

    Sometimes I put one line in there... maybe 15 words. Not much... but it can carry a crucial point that'll get people over the fence.

    Good copy is full of those little things.

    It's one of the many ways you know you're reading copy written by a pro... but you have to have a fairly decent baseline understanding to see it for what it is.

    One thing I've learned is killer copywriters don't have a single word that's superfluous. Every word has been carefully placed there to achieve a sale..

    ...even the stuff you think might not matter.

    I know this was a bit of a rant, but you're asking a pretty open question... and maybe this rant will help.

    -Daniel
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    • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
      Originally Posted by Daniel Scott View Post

      I think you and I should get married. Right now.

      -Daniel
      Have I been missing this courtship Dan?

      Or do always blurt out the idea of marriage on first meetings?

      All the best,
      Ewen
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    • Profile picture of the author DanielleLynnCopy
      Hi gjabiz,

      I was wondering when someone was going to bring up Maslow! I really like your model, I bet you do wonders for your clients

      Hi there Daniel glad to meet a like-minded copywriter.

      I've seen ya around the board, but it's a pleasure to finally say hi!

      I love what you wrote right here:
      Originally Posted by Daniel Scott View Post

      But one thing you'll notice is the better you get... the more layers you'll see in copy.

      Sometimes I put one line in there... maybe 15 words. Not much... but it can carry a crucial point that'll get people over the fence.

      Good copy is full of those little things.

      It's one of the many ways you know you're reading copy written by a pro... but you have to have a fairly decent baseline understanding to see it for what it is.

      One thing I've learned is killer copywriters don't have a single word that's superfluous. Every word has been carefully placed there to achieve a sale..
      Because that's EXACTLY what I try to convey to clients and starting-off copywriters who don't seem to get that it's more than just "writing" or even "sales-y writing"

      Well said For that alone I just might've say 'yes' :p
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
        Originally Posted by ewenmack View Post

        Have I been missing this courtship Dan?

        Or do always blurt out the idea of marriage on first meetings?

        All the best,
        Ewen
        Ewen... when you meet "the one"... you just know.

        No time to waste, my man.

        Originally Posted by DanielleLynnCopy View Post

        Well said For that alone I just might've say 'yes' :p
        I know, I know... hard to resist my charms.

        I'll wait for the ring to come via post.

        -Daniel
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  • Profile picture of the author DanielleLynnCopy
    Daniel, you charmer you. Witty, and a great name to boot!

    Haha, I'm loving this thread, wonderful ideas, wonderful posters, good stuff my fellow copy-warriors!

    I'd love to hear from anyone else, be it voodoo, card tricks, spelling out letter with alpha-bits, or whatever else you have up your sleeve!

    -Danielle
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  • Profile picture of the author Hank Rearden
    I'm boggled when I see this much "psychology" going into copy.

    The truth is: We all want things to happen in our self interest.

    Take your product. Take his self interest.

    Connect the two.

    Add scarcity, urgency and a good deal.

    There's salesmanship, and there's good copy.

    Confusing yourself in the rest of it is getting lost in the details, in my opinion.

    Details in the sense they come FROM above... Instead of leading towards your intended goal.

    Just my - not so humble - opinion.

    - HR
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  • Profile picture of the author DanielleLynnCopy
    Hi HR,

    Nice to meet you

    I agree that in many cases, simplicity is the best answer. Bogging the mind with too much complexity can result in messy writing and messy thoughts!

    I also agree that self interest governs all - and if you can tickle a reader's self interested, you've won more than half the battle.

    But I can't help but notice and appreciate that anytime sales are involved, there's a good deal of emotion going into a product. Why do so many people buy name brands instead of the store kind? You might argue it tastes better, I think people are buying into an idea. They like to experience the enjoyment of Coke, the twist of the Oreo, that distinctive Pepperidge Farm cookie (boy I'm making myself hungry!)

    I truly believe that what separates 'good copy' from 'artful copy' is that intangible psychological aspect, and that's why I'm searching for it with you

    All that being said, I appreciate your not so humble opinion HR

    Danielle
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