6 Reasons Why I Seldom Seek Critiques Here

Ugh, Sally Sally Sally, here we go... is it OK if I call you Sally?

Correction, I didn't know who a Vin was, there wasn't a last name. Of all people, I'd expect someone with your expertise to pay attention to a detail like that if you're going to make such bold statements. I have a Vin at work, I have a friend named Vin in college, and I read a blog by a Vin Thomas (google it if you'd like, it's good). I got confused over a common name, does that mean I must lack credibility?

But because I've been following your posts for a while, 247, I noticed that you must prove your point, so I expect that your rebuttal is going to sound something like, "This is the copywriting forum, where 'Joe' means 'Sugarman' and 'Vin' means 'Montello'." Surprise me if I'm wrong.

People piggyback on success when they have a purpose. There's no "salesy" purpose for this thread, or whatever you want to call it.

But let's presume that I was. Let's assume I have a link to my $1,500+ copywriting service in my signature and I want people to go, "this guy knows his stuff, I want to hire him." OK, great. I know a lot of folks like you will be tearing my thread to shreds, so thank you for fulfilling that expectation, number one. Number two, copywriters worldwide will agree: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. An 'original approach' is 'fixing it.' As per our assumption, I wanted to ride Bruce's wave to sell more, right? You just said that that's exactly what I did, so that would be my second expectation.

No, what I did think was that I'll get a higher viewer count if I reverse engineer his argument, lay it out the same and hopefully get as many thoughtful, challenging or perhaps even agreeing replies (which, in this forum, are rare; people seem to love disagreeing here a lot more than agreeing). My signature has nothing to do with copywriting. Well, scratch that. It is a sales copy. But who's isn't? **ahem**looks@247's** And if I make a sale off of it - which I won't - good.

We wasn't. We wasn't indeed.

Wouldn't be surprised to see that on a $247 sales copy.

Best Regards,
vip-ip ...

Down with the censorship! I realize this is a business forum, but some folks take it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously ... do you guys ever read threads like this for fun? :rolleyes:

Have you ever written someone a critique because you care about their success and really want them to up their conversions, for no reason? Here's a good test to figure it out: do you ever review a sales copy if you know there is absolutely 0% chance you'll sell anything to the OP? If your answer to both is "no," then my point stands. Reasons like "I want to give back to the community" are a rare species, and those who actually do it - AND give actionable advice - are a goldmine.

That's true, but like the title of this thread says, I seldom seek critiques, therefore I rarely have to do that.

@PJChavira: you do know you can hide affiliate links better than that, right?

Best Regards,
vip-ip ...

My mind is blown.

-Ross

Here's an old parable that comes to mind:

A Frog and a Mouse once formed a friendship on the land. The Frog, one day intent on mischief, tied the foot of the Mouse tightly to his own, in good fun. Now joined together, he gradually led him towards the pool in which he lived, looking for food, and soon discovered it was a very hot day. He suddenly jumped in, concerned only with cooling himself, dragging the Mouse down with him.

The Frog enjoyed the water greatly, and swam all croaking about, as if he had done a good deed. The unhappy Mouse was soon suffocated by the water, and his dead body, still full of air, was carried to the surface when the Frog grew tired.

A Hawk took notice, and, in the blink of an eye, pounced upon them with his talons, carrying them aloft. The Frog, still tied to the foot of the Mouse, was carried off a prisoner before he could escape, and was eaten by the Hawk.

I once read in a famous book a quote I will not soon forget: "Negative feedback always says in effect, stop what you're doing or the way you are doing it, and do something else."

That being true, it's clear a friendly discussion never got a chacne to grow legs here. Observing the reaction objectively may help you better accomplish your purpose in the future.

Marc

And me, I'm not trying to be a dick, to quote Daniel Scotts favorite expression but I just don't understand what the point is, to this thread?

Bruce Wedding had this recent topic completely covered.

I'm just at a loss what the OP is getting at or feels is to be gained by making this new thread. But, I'll let it slide and allow others to chime in with their thoughts.

Hopefully I'll be in a better position later to comment or not, as the case may be.

I have a bizarre sense of déjà vu...