How Can This Header Be Better?? (Headline Help)

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Update; Thanks for all that responded, but it looks as if I won't even need a headline...I don't think I'll be releasing this product at all....think I dove in deeper water than anticipated. :-(

Hey Warriors

I'm having trouble coming up with a good headline. I want something that will hopefully create interest while putting a smile on my reader's face. How can I make my current Headline better...if any hope at all.

P.S. Ignore the blank (____).


Discover The Money-Saving Method That Allows Me To Use The $30 I Would Have Paid to ____ and Buy All My Broke Friends Shots At The Bar
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce Wedding
    Don't try to entertain your readers. The problem with your headline is, $30 isn't enough to interest anyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    Maybe this is just me, but why would I want to spend my hard-saved cash getting deadbeats drunk?

    Seems like a disconnect.

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  • Profile picture of the author 247Copywriter
    You could try making it a little bit more irresistible than it currently is Shabit.

    Here's a suggestion for you...

    In the next hour, try to write out at least 25 benefit driven headlines. That's approximately 1 every 2 minutes, so you better get cracking.

    When you've done that, pick out which one's you think are best and post them up here for us to tear at them like mad rabid dogs.

    This current one is well... a non starter.
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    • Profile picture of the author shabit87
      Thanks everyone its back to the drawing board for me!
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      • Profile picture of the author OutOfThisWord
        Unless I know what you are selling... and to who (me)... there is no reason to read further.

        Brother where art thou?
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        • Profile picture of the author shabit87
          Originally Posted by OutOfThisWord View Post

          Unless I know what you are selling... and to who (me)... there is no reason to read further.

          Brother where art thou?
          Not exactly sure if you mean this for the thread or the heading itself, but I'll take this as I need to have the Headline be more enticing to read further.

          Thanks either way :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Carol_A
    "Discover The Money-Saving Method That Allows Me. . . "

    To finish, choose something that would appeal to all ages, all religious profiles, etc.

    I would be turned off by your original headline because I have had bad experiences related to alcohol (during my childhood), so it has a negative connotation for me.

    Personally, I am put off by vulgarity, profanity, etc.

    There are many creative ways to communicate. You would grab the attention of more potential customers if you didn't speak to a too specific (drinking) group of people.

    Just my 2¢
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    • Profile picture of the author shabit87
      Originally Posted by Carol_A View Post

      "Discover The Money-Saving Method That Allows Me. . . "

      To finish, choose something that would appeal to all ages, all religious profiles, etc.

      I would be turned off by your original headline because I have had bad experiences related to alcohol (during my childhood), so it has a negative connotation for me.

      Personally, I am put off by vulgarity, profanity, etc.

      There are many creative ways to communicate. You would grab the attention of more potential customers if you didn't speak to a too specific (drinking) group of people.

      Just my 2¢
      Excellent point, thank you! Your 2 cents was very valuable in this case ;-)
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      • Profile picture of the author Bruce Wedding
        Originally Posted by shabit87 View Post

        Excellent point, thank you! Your 2 cents was very valuable in this case ;-)
        It is not really an excellent point at all. If you try to please everyone, you'll please no one. There is nothing wrong with targeting your audience and if your audience is drinkers, hit 'em with it. There's nothing wrong with this headline at all if your target audience is college-aged boys, though Mary Kay is not going to like it:

        "5 Killer Tricks to Kick Ass At Quarters... Even When You're Shiţfaced!"

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        • Profile picture of the author shabit87
          Originally Posted by Bruce Wedding View Post

          It is not really an excellent point at all. If you try to please everyone, you'll please no one. There is nothing wrong with targeting your audience and if your audience is drinkers, hit 'em with it. There's nothing wrong with this headline at all if your target audience is college-aged boys, though Mary Kay is not going to like it:

          "5 Killer Tricks to Kick Ass At Quarters... Even When You're Shiţfaced!"

          LMAO nice heading example! But sadly my target isn't college-aged men. Darn!
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          • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
            Originally Posted by shabit87 View Post

            LMAO nice heading example! But sadly my target isn't college-aged men. Darn!
            Ryan, You have told us who your target audience isn't,
            can you tell us who are?

            Untill we know, we are only firing arrows at a non existant target.

            All the best,
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            • Profile picture of the author shabit87
              Originally Posted by ewenmack View Post

              Ryan, You have told us who your target audience isn't,
              can you tell us who are?

              Untill we know, we are only firing arrows at a non existant target.

              All the best,
              Ewen
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              • Profile picture of the author Collette
                Originally Posted by shabit87 View Post

                Target Audience, marketers using a source that requires a small investment each time the source is used

                That is not A Target.

                That is A Universe.

                Drill down.

                Tell me EXACTLY who your reader is.

                For example: Is your reader...

                - Male/Female?
                - 18 - 29 yrs old? 30 - 40? 45 - 60? 60+?
                - Annual income of <$10K? <$25K? <$100K?
                - Lives in a suburb? Lives in a city?
                - Has a mortgage and kids? Or lives in parent's basement apt, rent-free?
                - Has been using the Internet for years? Just recently? Still struggling to attach a file to their email?
                - Knows what "FB" stands for? Or thinks "LOL" means "Lots of Love"?
                - Has a brick-and-mortar biz? Never been self-employed? Employed now, but wants extra $$/wants to replace salary? Doesn't want to be 'employed' at all?

                ... and so on.

                Develop an actual picture of EXACTLY who you're talking to. Using your bar analogy, imagine you've just met this person in a bar... What would they look like, how would the conversation go, and what would you say to them to help them solve their problem?

                P.S. If you want to sell anything to this 'target prospect', he is NOT the drunk dropout slumped over at the end of the bar at 10 a.m.
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  • Profile picture of the author Carol_A
    shabit87: Is your target audience college-age drinking boys?
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  • Profile picture of the author waffle_pancakes
    Discover The Money-Saving Method That Allows Me To Use The $30 I Would Have Paid to ____ and Buy All My Broke Friends Shots At The Bar
    How about using negatives?

    Something like: Discover the exact reason why all your friends can afford to be drunk at the bar all day - EXCEPT YOU!

    I don't know. Came up with it in a few minutes. Could be better.
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    • Profile picture of the author shabit87
      Originally Posted by waffle_pancakes View Post

      How about using negatives?

      Something like: Discover the exact reason why all your friends can afford to be drunk at the bar all day - EXCEPT YOU!

      I don't know. Came up with it in a few minutes. Could be better.
      LOL its cool thanks, any help is appreciated
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross James
      Originally Posted by waffle_pancakes View Post

      How about using negatives?

      Something like: Discover the exact reason why all your friends can afford to be drunk at the bar all day - EXCEPT YOU!

      I don't know. Came up with it in a few minutes. Could be better.

      I don't mean to sound harsh but that's worse than the OP headline. If your message is that they can't afford to be broke. Your basically saying, "haha your friends are at the bar except you're not cuz your broke lol."
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  • Profile picture of the author alcymart
    Start by turning all the "me's" and "I's" into "You's" and "Your's" would be a good start. People only care about what's in it for them (Benefits) from the very first line. And get the word "broke" out a there...

    Take care,

    Bernard St-Pierre
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  • Profile picture of the author brandonacox
    Keywords aren't just good for Google, they're good for the human brain too. We scan long text looking for them, but when I scan your long text, I don't see any benefit-oriented words that jump out at me. I'd do something like...

    Save Big Money Every Time You Use This Trick/Tip/Tool.

    Your sentence should probably occur somewhere down the page. Use the top 600 pixels to grab those who will click your Buy button in 10 seconds or less.
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