Critique my very first copywriting piece EVER...

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I'm a green 21-year-old breaking into the industry! It's a little intimidating to see all these copywriting greats out there, but I'm hoping that copywriting isn't all talent - that it can be learned, at least to an extent.

That said, BRUTALLY critique my first sales page. Have no mercy. I want to see if I have any potential at all in this industry. If I'm hopeless, then I should probably know now. :p

It's attached; it's a Word document.
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  • Profile picture of the author Toy Giraffe
    I should probably mention: the target audience = socially inept teens and young adults.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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      Hello Jess

      First write out 50 main headlines.

      There's plenty enough tips in this forum to help you out with this.

      Go to the latest thread on copywriting tips. You'll see there a post from me on p2 reply #60 I think it is - I've listed all of the top copywriters on this forum I can think of. Look over their threads and posts on copywriting and apply their advice.

      Your piece (no viruses contained within it btw folks, it's safe to click on) needs a hell of a lot of ruthless editing.

      Consider introducing a storyline to get the major benefits across. Segment this storyline to keep the readers interest.

      Try to avoid using the word 'that' as much as possible, it's a very ugly word to use in sales copy.

      You lost me about 2/3rds of the way through. Started to waffle on a bit. This is a good draft piece for starters, although it needs one hec of a lot of improvement but you've certainly got something here going for you.

      Put in another 10,000 hours at least into learning copywriting and you might just get there.

      Don't forget bullet points, subheadlines, scarcity, the guarantee and your PS points.

      Good luck!

      Best,


      Pete Walker
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      • Profile picture of the author Toy Giraffe
        Originally Posted by Pete Walker View Post

        Hello Jess

        First write out 50 main headlines.

        There's plenty enough tips in this forum to help you out with this.

        Go to the latest thread on copywriting tips. You'll see there a post from me on p2 reply #60 I think it is - I've listed all of the top copywriters on this forum I can think of. Look over their threads and posts on copywriting and apply their advice.

        Your piece (no viruses contained within it btw folks, it's safe to click on) needs a hell of a lot of ruthless editing.

        Consider introducing a storyline to get the major benefits across. Segment this storyline to keep the readers interest.

        Try to avoid using the word 'that' as much as possible, it's a very ugly word to use in sales copy.

        You lost me about 2/3rds of the way through. Started to waffle on a bit. This is a good draft piece for starters, although it needs one hec of a lot of improvement but you've certainly got something here going for you.

        Put in another 10,000 hours at least into learning copywriting and you might just get there.

        Don't forget bullet points, subheadlines, scarcity, the guarantee and your PS points.

        Good luck!

        Best,


        Pete Walker
        Thanks for the feedback! I'm a full-time college student + employee as well, but I'm making it a point to dedicate 2 hours daily to the craft, both reading and writing specs (of which, the better ones will potentially become a part of my spec portfolio).

        Just a few clarification requests:

        1. Is the advice on writing 50 main headlines more for the purpose of finding a better one for this piece? Or were you saying that beginners should start by writing 50 headlines on any topic, as the first step to honing copywriting skills in general?

        2. Regarding the word "that", interesting FYI. Why does it have such a negative connotation? Is it because it sounds accusatory? Or because it implies distance? (Rather than a more intimate-sounding "this".)

        3. Does it normally take people 10,000 hours to obtain proficiency in copywriting? Or am I starting off WAY behind most people? Does actual copywriting work experience generally count for these hours, or does only purely personal study time count? Because if it's the latter, then at 2 hours daily, it'd take nearly 14 years! If it's the former, then it's much more within reach!

        Sorry for bombarding you with questions, just wanted to dig into the feedback. I will absolutely check out the Tips thread, sounds like an invaluable resource.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Ceskavich
    If I'm correct, Pete pointed out "That" because "that" is usually a removable word. There are certain words in the English language we use, but don't really need. "That" tends to be one of them.

    Two things will save this letter:

    1) You're violating the unwritten social code when you attack your reader with this sort of headline. I believe it was David Ogilvy who said, "your reader is your wife."

    Would you beat your wife? Abuse her verbally like this?

    Focus on what you can give her, and how you'll take away her pain. This will win you friends and sales.

    2) You haven't figured out what you're selling yet.

    In the same vein as above, you simply do not know what your benefit is yet. No worries. Try doing this: Write down every feature of your product. For an info product, this is everything you do for your prospect.

    Then ask yourself, "Why did I select this feature to teach my customer?" Answer this questions.

    Then write a sentence to your prospect which begins with, "So you can ... " and then tell him what this feature will help him do.

    Finally, find both a) the obvious and b) new, interesting and unique ways to put the above statement TO WORK for your prospect.

    Show him using it in his life... show him other benefits it can get him.. etc etc etc.

    Benefits - especially dimentionalized benefits - are the ammunition you use in copywriting.

    Not enough bullets, you won't do the job correctly.

    So arm yourself with more than you need. And select only the top 10% to keep and feature.

    You'll make more money.

    - Alex
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  • Profile picture of the author RRMarketing
    Hello Tony,

    I don't think that insulting your target market helps you that much.

    They are socially inept but that doesn't mean they don't have an ego.

    Plus, they consider their lack of a social life is thanks to some exterior circumstance, parents, society, friends, looks, etc.

    "It's not your fault. I've been there too. And God knows that I've tried to change something. However, with such strict parents and a society that is as forgiving as the African jungle, I've found it difficult. This is until when ..."

    You are assuming things in the first paragraph. He may not have been told these things.

    Try to understand him, don't judge him, critique him. It's depressing to read. He doesn't want to read this unless it inspires him. Remember, the ego comes first.

    Also, why do you use so many complicate words? Use simple language. It's hard to read.

    The main appeal should be that he wants to be like one of his friends, a star, a VIP. He considers that if only that happens, every one of his problems will be solved.

    Talk about him, not about social dynamics. You've lost me by the second page.

    Look, you need to be likable to sell. He needs to respect you. He needs to see you as the person that finally understands him. He needs to be motivated and even relieved by reading your sales letter.

    It's like in the weight loss niche. He doesn't want to hear the truth. He wants to hear that his extra weight is due to the additives used by McDonald in their products.

    So I suggest you start writing this again, this time with a little bit more empathy.

    Thanks,
    Razvan
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  • Profile picture of the author Toy Giraffe
    Hah, I think my copy's just way too long! The bullets are at the bottom of the page! Great feedback so far, if anyone else has thoughts, please chime in!
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  • Profile picture of the author Vincenzo Oliva
    For one, the success of any sales letter hangs on the ability of it's headline. Not only don't you have a headline but you have a question that's really a statement and it doesn't speak to anyone really. The goal of the headline is to get the person to read the rest of the salesletter, nothing more.

    You're not calling anyone out, making a big promise or giving anyone any reason to read the rest. You need to "hook" them in to the letter, make then so curious that they MUST read more.

    "FORMER PARTY REJECT WHO COULDN'T GET THE TIME OF DAY LEARNS A "WEIRD' SOCIAL CODE THAT MADE HIM THE MOST POPULAR GUY AT THE PARTY WITH SO MANY BABES NUMBERS HE HAD TO BUY A NEW CELL PHONE!"
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    • Profile picture of the author Toy Giraffe
      Originally Posted by Vincenzo Oliva View Post

      For one, the success of any sales letter hangs on the ability of it's headline. Not only don't you have a headline but you have a question that's really a statement and it doesn't speak to anyone really. The goal of the headline is to get the person to read the rest of the salesletter, nothing more.

      You're not calling anyone out, making a big promise or giving anyone any reason to read the rest. You need to "hook" them in to the letter, make then so curious that they MUST read more.

      "FORMER PARTY REJECT WHO COULDN'T GET THE TIME OF DAY LEARNS A "WEIRD' SOCIAL CODE THAT MADE HIM THE MOST POPULAR GUY AT THE PARTY WITH SO MANY BABES NUMBERS HE HAD TO BUY A NEW CELL PHONE!"
      My headline was "Still have no social lfe? This is why" or something to that extent.

      The book was written from the perspective of a normal person (socially healthy), so the ebook is meant to be a source of genuine advice. Kind of like "Skinny Bitch" - a tough love sort of thing.

      It seems that people don't like that approach then? Surprising, because I thought most people preferred brutally honest truths (I do) in lieu of feel-good "empathy."

      It seems that my goal should be to integrate both - which I tried to do when painting the "worst case scenario" regarding 50-year-old virgins, etc.

      Another concern of mine is that people becme accustomed to associating bold loud claims in headlines with scammy sales pages, which I was afraid of resembling overly much. Should I be worried about this too much? I'm just worried about it appearing hyped-up/dumbed-down and insulting their intelligence.

      I may be biased though. I'm a left-brained, chess-addicted law student.

      Really appreciate everyone's refreshing honesty, btw!
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  • Profile picture of the author Vincenzo Oliva
    That's cool, bold claims still work though. It's something that you need to test.
    I feel like "Still have no social lfe?" seems like you're jumping in at the middle of the conversation somewhere. Like, what exactly are we talking about many would think.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tiptopcat
    Some good advice left here for you.

    My thoughts:
    I was turned off by the first sentence so would have left your squeeze page.

    It took far too long to get to the solution to this dilemma. If I had made it past the first sentence, I still wouldn't have been on the site long enough to get to helpful part.

    Sometimes it is best to work your way backwards. Write about all of the benefits of your product and then you can extract the right sort of questions that a buyer would be looking to answer.

    Good luck with it.

    Tiptopcat
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  • Profile picture of the author Toy Giraffe
    yikes...I really do suck at this. <_<
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Cohen
    Originally Posted by Toy Giraffe View Post

    Have no mercy. I want to see if I have any potential at all in this industry. If I'm hopeless, then I should probably know now. :p
    If you can communicate effectively in writing, then you can learn to write good copy.

    The copywriters above have given you a lot of good advice. Think of each point as something new to learn.

    Don't be discouraged. You'll be there before you know it!

    Alex
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