What Kind of Proof Factors Work The Best?

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We all know the usual proof factors.... well, testimonials... and tonnes of them bombarding the user's screen. Specificity... Well, tons of more testimonials in video form.

There's the infamous screenshot/video of going to their clickbank account too.

Just curious.

What else do copywriters have up their sleeves?
#factors #kind #proof #work
  • Profile picture of the author John_S
    A lot of these are, as your sleeve reference suggests, just tricks.

    Testimonials are notoriously poorly done. Don't count testimonials out as undiscovered territory. Even using first and last names -- not online handles -- comes as a minor revelation to some. Few understand you can have bad testimonials.

    Design factors which aid credibility are a definite plus. I refer to an auto body or remodeling company which only shows "afters," not befores. It is difficult for anybody to figure out if you buffed out a scratch or performed a minor miracle.

    I swear some of these sites use stock photos which have nothing to do with anything the company has done.

    Don't show your Lamborghini. I don't care if I fully and absolutely believe Bernie Madoff has a Lamborghini. That doesn't prove what you think it does: Show the customer's Lamborghini -- that, along with the testimonial, shows the system works.

    A lot of people are following the advice of people who made their money by inheriting it from grandparents who earned it making bootleg alcohol during prohibition. Not the whitewashed business they wrote a book about. Yeah, maybe that laundromat could have make $300K per month for four decades ...it problably didn't.

    A major proof factor is articulating you understand the prospect's real problem and real source cause of the problem. If the prospect doesn't think you understand the root cause, they will not be convinced you've done the homework necessary to solve their problem.

    Proof you think anybody is going to use the product. A comment long ago on the old version of the Warrior forum about huge, multi DVD information products brought this home. People who think finding anything on 22 DVDs will be a chore (or impossible) won't buy. Prove the product or service has been tested by others.

    Everyone knows people who can do something -- but can not teach others how. That's a potential objection rarely being handled, even by information marketers.

    Proof of expertise. Reveal an insider trade secret “They gasped when I sprayed beer on my lawn. But you should see my golf-course green grass now!” Are you giving away the store -- No. Prove you are the expert. Prove you have done what you're supposed to be an expert in.

    How many experts in writing code come up with a product you'd have to be an expert in some other field to develop a business effective app for? Too many. The code works flawlessly. The app? ...not so flawless.

    Have employees? Then show employees. Not stock photos of fashion models pretending to be employees. Heidi Klum doesn't work for you ...Wendy the Snapple Lady might.

    Demo. Do a demonstration against competition. Show your vac picks up more. Show your process is better. Show your work.
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  • Profile picture of the author John_S
    All this is one thing -- repeated over-and-over -- authenticity.

    A nice sounding word. Difficult to fully understand or appreciate.
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  • Profile picture of the author max5ty
    Originally Posted by thehorizon View Post

    We all know the usual proof factors.... well, testimonials... and tonnes of them bombarding the user's screen. Specificity... Well, tons of more testimonials in video form.

    There's the infamous screenshot/video of going to their clickbank account too.

    Just curious.

    What else do copywriters have up their sleeves?
    Quotes from newspapers or magazines work nicely:

    "A UCLA study shows that the ability to become wealthy may be linked to a genetic gene"

    Quotes from a person can be used:

    "Eating more donuts reduces your waist size" Dr. Dunkin

    When it comes to personal testimonials, a trick that very few use, is to show a testimonial that seems negative...it can add credibility to your overall testimonials, and have a reverse effect on the reader.

    It's like reverse psychology.

    Most don't have the nerve to use a seemingly negative testimonial...

    Quick example:

    Off the top of my head, let's say you're offering web hosting...

    You have some testimonials saying how great your service is, and how excited they are to have found it.

    Then...

    You have a testimonial where the person gives it maybe 3 stars, and goes on to say they like the service but didn't need all the extras that came with it because they were just starting out and wouldn't use them.

    The reader that reads this testimonial will think:

    1. You were being honest by giving both sides

    2. The person who wrote the testimonial is an idiot...and they themselves would love the extra services.

    This is just a basic example.

    Depending on the product, you can get creative.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Cohen
    Originally Posted by thehorizon View Post

    We all know the usual proof factors.... well, testimonials... and tonnes of them bombarding the user's screen. Specificity... Well, tons of more testimonials in video form.

    There's the infamous screenshot/video of going to their clickbank account too.

    Just curious.

    What else do copywriters have up their sleeves?
    The core issue is believability. Without it, your promotion will fail.

    Here's a helpful article on the subject by Daniel Levis. As you'll see, testimonials are only one way to make your copy more believable,

    "20 Ways to Make Your Copy More Believable"

    How To Make Your Copy More Believable - Small Business Marketing

    Alex
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  • I totally agree with everything said.

    But...

    It's all been done many times. Fabulous promises with all the "proof" you could ever wish to see.

    And customers have been let down (often very badly and on many purchases).

    That's their big concern - despite all the "right" testimonials and abundance of the "correct" proof.

    They still have nagging doubts that the product/service just won't "work"

    Or maybe it "works" for others - but won't "work" for them.

    They best way to solve this - is

    Offer a long (3, 6, 9, 12, 24 month or even a lifetime) "no quibble, no questions no hassle" guarantee.

    You can boost the guarantee by saying -

    "You must be absolutely delighted (restate what the product/service does for them). Or we insist you get all your money back immediately. And please keep all the bonuses with our compliments. And we'll also give you $20.00 to cover your time - just for giving us a "try"

    It gives the customer that vital reassurance - and helps "push" them over the tipping point.

    By proving...

    They'll get their money back (and more) if it's not everything they hoped it would be.

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author max5ty
      Originally Posted by Steve Copywriter View Post

      I totally agree with everything said.

      But...

      It's all been done many times.

      And customers have still been let down (often very badly and on so many purchases).

      That's their big concern - despite all the "right" testimonials and abundance of the "correct" proof.

      They still have nagging doubts that the product/service just won't "work"

      Or maybe it "works" for others - but won't "work" for them.

      They best way to solve this - is

      Offer a long (3, 6, 9, 12, 24 month or even a lifetime) "no quibble, no questions no hassle" guarantee.

      (You can boost the guarantee by saying "please keep all the bonuses and we'll also give you $20.00 to cover your time - just for giving us a "try").

      It gives the customer that vital reassurance - and helps "push" them over the tipping point.

      By proving...

      They'll get their money back if it's not everything they hoped it would be.

      Steve
      The whole guarantee thing is worn out too.

      What's really hot right now in product selling is this:

      If you notice, some of the products that are selling like crazy are the one's where they say, "Try it free, if you like it, we'll bill you later".

      or...

      there's a sign up form with a box to check that says "bill me later".

      The Bottom Line (Boardroom) uses this approach very successfully.

      A lot of the exercise equipment on T.V. uses this approach now (although some charge something like $19.00 up front for shipping) then bill you the rest after 30 days or so.

      People are worn out with all the guarantee this and guarantee that.

      They'll go for getting it, trying it, then letting you charge them...

      no guarantee can beat that.

      It's becoming the cutting edge way to sell products on T.V. or the internet.

      Edit: The whole idea is nothing new...it was used to sell millions of books, cd's, albums, etc. for years.
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      • Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

        The whole guarantee thing is worn out too.

        What's really hot right now in product selling is this:

        If you notice, some of the products that are selling like crazy are the one's where they say, "Try it free, if you like it, we'll bill you later".

        or...

        there's a sign up form with a box to check that says "bill me later".

        The Bottom Line (Boardroom) uses this approach very successfully.

        A lot of the exercise equipment on T.V. uses this approach now (although some charge something like $19.00 up front for shipping) then bill you the rest after 30 days or so.

        People are worn out with all the guarantee this and guarantee that.

        They'll go for getting it, trying it, then letting you charge them...

        no guarantee can beat that.

        It's becoming the cutting edge way to sell products on T.V. or the internet.

        Edit: The whole idea is nothing new...it was used to sell millions of books, cd's, albums, etc. for years.


        Max,

        Guarantees are essential - even if customers "try before you buy" - once they've bought - the stuff is still usually guaranteed.

        But if it can be done - "try before you buy" is excellent.

        For a small business it can cause "nightmare" credit control problems if a they send a paper bill.

        Of course they can say - "we won't bill your credit card for 30 days"


        Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
      I like what Steve said about dealing with people being let down so many times.

      How I've dealt with it in the past, is create what I call
      A Penalty For Non Performance.

      I've gone as far as say I'll pay out $1,000
      if I don't meet the listed performance...

      and the client was the sole judge.

      It dealt with the biggest gripe in the marketplace.

      It gave what what the marketplace wanted
      and I was rewarded very well.

      Best,
      Ewen
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Cohen
      Originally Posted by Steve Copywriter View Post


      They still have nagging doubts that the product/service just won't "work"

      Or maybe it "works" for others - but won't "work" for them.

      They best way to solve this - is

      Offer a long (3, 6, 9, 12, 24 month or even a lifetime) "no quibble, no questions no hassle" guarantee.
      Not really.

      The best tactic is a free trial.

      The second best is a no strings, double your money back guarantee.

      Alex
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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMonkey
    Honest and open communication and authenticity will always be great ways to make sales - providing that they are true of course. I think video proof with actual over the shoulder access to sites etc is the most convincing and least likely to be faked. Screenshots etc are just sh** as proof these days as the imaages are available everywhere and if you pay attention you'll see the same image in WSO after WSO
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    • Profile picture of the author thehorizon
      Hmm. It does seem like legit methods, doing a reverse sale through a free trial.. But there's a bad problem here especially in the IM market. Human inertia. The 80/20 rule will probably predict that out of 100 people who get your product for free, 80 percent will lack the will to send you the price... Or even open up the product. If there's a double money back guarantee, there are bound to be people.. Maybe 20 percent who want to exploit the double money back to get a profit.

      Wouldn't it pose a problem, or is there valid evidence to state that the profits went up instead of down?

      I'm always up for a change in copywriting!
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  • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
    While it's subtle, one of the most effective types of proof is the tone, the style, the delivery and the formatting of the copy.

    I work in entrepreneurial areas where little proof is available. It's not uncommon that I have nothing to work with.

    When I first got started writing this this type of copy, it was because I asked a partner for proof elements. And he replied "We don't need no damn proof. Write the letter."

    The key to this type of proof is knowing your market and the customer and how they would want to be approached exactly.

    - Rick Duris
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Webb
    Best testimonials aren't -

    * Hypey crap, usually just the seller's best friends repeating sales copy as testimonial

    And are -

    * Honest, matter of fact stories about how the product/service has changed that person's business for the better.
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  • Profile picture of the author John_S
    The best tactic is a free trial.
    No. It is not.

    What, precisely, do you think you are proving? The "proof factor" is you couldn't charge for it.

    That is what you are proving. Literally,that is what you are proving.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Cohen
      Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

      If you have to give it away or pay them to take it, I'd say the market is pretty whored out, no?
      Nope.

      Originally Posted by John_S View Post

      No. It is not.

      What, precisely, do you think you are proving? The "proof factor" is you couldn't charge for it.

      That is what you are proving. Literally,that is what you are proving.
      Yes it is. Been proven to be the case over many years of testing.

      Alex
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  • Profile picture of the author John_S
    You can't take an electronic information product away from the customer
    Yup.

    However, the puppy dog close can be stated different ways. The major focus is not free, but risk reversal. The point being fostering a sense of ownership. You do not necessarily have to use the word free to use the puppy dog close.

    Is a free trial the best technique? No. It is not.

    The one most popular with the novice? No doubt. The one with great potential to get wrong? Sure. Best? Uh ...no. I rank the free trial right up there with "who else wants."

    It seems easy. That does not mean best.
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  • Profile picture of the author John_S
    Yes it is. Been proven to be the case over many years of testing.
    Many years. You couldn't be more right.

    Okay, so who won? Was it the first advertiser -- the one who used the word Free?

    The first advertiser failed and the second succeeded. The first even lost a large part of the trade he had. He cheapened his product by giving a 15-cent package away. It is hard to pay for an article which has once been free. It is like paying railroad fare after traveling on a pass.
    -- Claude Hopkins - Scientific Advertising Chapter 6 - Scientific Advertising - Psychology
    Popular. Not best.

    Proven. Not best.

    Works. Not the best.
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