No testimonials/have not made money yourself for salespage.

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What do you do if you have no testimonials for a salespage. Or what do you do if you are teaching methods that universally work for making money but you have not made any money on it yourself. How do you get past that obstacle if you have no proof. Like most people want a screenshot of earnings or something.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Pescetti
    Simple.

    Don't sell something that you haven't demonstrated actually works.

    If your methods really do make money...

    ...Then make the money and use your experiences as fodder for your copy.

    Until then, there's plenty of people selling surefire formulas and methods that don't work.

    In fact, there's a whole host of authors in the self-help genre who preach about how to find inner-peace, manifest wealth and heal your body... without actually doing any of it themselves.

    The money-making, financial freedom, get-rich-quick market is already flooded with nonsense.

    Go back to the drawing board and originate something that really works, then come back with your ingenious revelation!

    Mark

    P.S. Why is it called self help when you're looking for someone else to tell you what to do? Is that really self help? Having made tons of money in that genre myself, I wish there was something more appropriate to call the market.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
      Originally Posted by Reflection Marketing View Post

      Simple.

      Don't sell something that you haven't demonstrated actually works.

      If your methods really do make money...

      ...Then make the money and use your experiences as fodder for your copy.

      Until then, there's plenty of people selling surefire formulas and methods that don't work.

      In fact, there's a whole host of authors in the self-help genre who preach about how to find inner-peace, manifest wealth and heal your body... without actually doing any of it themselves.

      The money-making, financial freedom, get-rich-quick market is already flooded with nonsense.

      Go back to the drawing board and originate something that really works, then come back with your ingenious revelation!

      Mark

      P.S. Why is it called self help when you're looking for someone else to tell you what to do? Is that really self help? Having made tons of money in that genre myself, I wish there was something more appropriate to call the market.
      You, sir, are my new hero.

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  • Profile picture of the author Shawn Lee
    How about putting it up for sale first? Then, ask your customers for a testimonial if they thought your product is good..
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  • Profile picture of the author Affillionaire
    Originally Posted by bigballin6161 View Post

    What do you do if you have no testimonials for a salespage. Or what do you do if you are teaching methods that universally work for making money but you have not made any money on it yourself. How do you get past that obstacle if you have no proof. Like most people want a screenshot of earnings or something.
    Don't sell anything...

    Let me ask you a question. Would you want to buy something from somebody that teaches YOU how to make money online, when the methods you are learning from HAVEN'T been used by the person who is teaching you?

    If that was confusing, I'll just simply say that don't you think it is a little unfair to the person who is buying your product if they THINK that what your selling is new and never seen before?

    I suggest you put a little more time into your product instead of just trying to sell anything. You might as well just buy some plr if you want to go that route. But even if you do have a product, lets just say it's what you intend to sell, who are you going to sell those universal (already tried and tested) techniques too?

    Chances are someone has already tried those techniques and are of no real value to your course when someone can probably just find out for free on their own.

    I suggest you only sell techniques that YOU personally have tried and tested yourself. That way you aren't lying. You have proof and it's something that is unique to you and your business.

    But there are people out there all the time selling things that themselves haven't even tried and making money, so you can follow there footsteps , but in the end you'll just get a bad rep or you can sell something new, unique and something that offers value and have a good reputation in the end.

    As far as I know on how to answer your question. I don't think you should personally do it, but people pay people on Fiverr all the time to do both video and written testimonials and reviews.

    But like I said before it's your rep on the line and in the end, if ripping people off is what you want to do, then you'll have that guilt to live with every dollar you spend.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Write about something you like to do outside of the MMO market. A hobby maybe. You're still going to need testimonials for credibility but you won't need earnings proof.

    People can comment on how well written your stuff is and how easy the instructions are to follow, etc. There's a section on this forum where you spend $5 and can get an ad out there offering review copies. It's the "warriors looking to hire you" section.

    Then when you have some success with something like this you'll be able to grab those earnings screenshots from the sale of your guide or whatever you call it if you still want to trudge through the slimy MMO marketplace.
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  • Profile picture of the author bigballin6161
    This is a proven method of making money I am just putting my own twist on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author maximus242
    Okay dude, you are wasting your time.

    There are thousands of people who are selling make money products with proven results

    You have no proof whatsoever that what you say works

    Why in the hell would anyone ever believe you - if your proven method works then go make money at it, otherwise stop trying to scam people.
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    • Profile picture of the author bigballin6161
      Originally Posted by maximus242 View Post

      Okay dude, you are wasting your time.

      There are thousands of people who are selling make money products with proven results

      You have no proof whatsoever that what you say works

      Why in the hell would anyone ever believe you - if your proven method works then go make money at it, otherwise stop trying to scam people.

      It has occurred to me that there is actually more money selling the method than the actual method makes itself.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    Thats easy my son. You just offer "review" testimonials or fabricate testimonials and partner it with bodgey earnings screenshots. How do you think most of these M.M.O. Clickbank scammers got ahead? Of course its a bit more difficult these days - but its still going on. Then you too can be making whoopey in Vegas with Cocaine parties and "rentals" doing pole-dances in the shower in your private suite. Of course you'll either blow it all before you hit 30...have the FTC on your ass, end up in the nick - or all three. But thats what internet marketing is all about - right?

    Now I can do you a very nice line in Javascript that will enable you to change any Income Statement - PayPal/Clickbank/your income tax form - pretty much anything. For you - $997. But you must act now. This page will come down in exactly 24 hours.

    Cheers,

    Santa

    p.s. remember - it's not a "cost" but an "investment". 99 out of 100 internet marketers fail because they don't take action. Pull finger and send me $997 now.
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    • Profile picture of the author bigballin6161
      Originally Posted by The Copy Nazi View Post

      Thats easy my son. You just offer "review" testimonials or fabricate testimonials and partner it with bodgey earnings screenshots. How do you think most of these M.M.O. Clickbank scammers got ahead? Of course its a bit more difficult these days - but its still going on. Then you too can be making whoopey in Vegas with Cocaine parties and "rentals" doing pole-dances in the shower in your private suite. Of course you'll either blow it all before you hit 30...have the FTC on your ass, end up in the nick - or all three. But thats what internet marketing is all about - right?

      Now I can do you a very nice line in Javascript that will enable you to change any Income Statement - PayPal/Clickbank/your income tax form - pretty much anything. For you - $997. But you must act now. This page will come down in exactly 24 hours.

      Cheers,

      Santa

      p.s. remember - it's not a "cost" but an "investment". 99 out of 100 internet marketers fail because they don't take action. Pull finger and send me $997 now.
      Thanks Santa, good answer. How did you know the reason why I got into IM?
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  • Profile picture of the author maximus242
    There are one of two outcomes:

    A. you dont sell the product very well

    B. you go to jail

    Nobody is going to buy your crappy method, unless you completely falsify your advertising, in which case, you will be taking option b.

    This is a very stupid idea, and you are going to end up wasting your time. Find something worthwhile.

    Your product obviously sucks because you dont even want to use it.

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    • Profile picture of the author Stephen Bray
      I really don't believe I'm reading this!
      If you're in business you're always going
      to have to solve basic problems, such as
      cash-flow, customer acquisition, and getting
      worthwhile testimonials.

      This one is easy.

      Step 1. Use the product to make sure it
      works in practice, and not just in theory.
      This is also a prerequisite to step 2.

      Step 2. Find five, people, of different
      educational background, gender, and
      professional class to whom you agree to
      teach the method in exchange for:

      a) A video of them working the system


      b) A written testimonial.

      c) Screen shots of their Clickbank,
      Paypal, or whatever.

      Be sure to include one hopeless
      'deadbeat'.

      Since you know the method works 'ride'
      them all until they deliver the results
      you need.

      Step 3. Roll out a product launch using
      those materials.

      Remember to include a 'results are not
      typical disclaimer'.

      It's not rocket science.

      Does that help?

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  • Profile picture of the author bigballin6161
    So I should just drive a ****load of traffic with ppc and show how much I make. They wont know even if my conversion sucks. And dont act like this is all wrong more people than not have gotten rich off of selling methods while the haters sit there and dont got sh*t but are sure to put other people down because they are just talkers not doers.
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    • Profile picture of the author maximus242
      Originally Posted by bigballin6161 View Post

      So I should just drive a ****load of traffic with ppc and show how much I make. They wont know even if my conversion sucks. And dont act like this is all wrong more people than not have gotten rich off of selling methods while the haters sit there and dont got sh*t but are sure to put other people down because they are just talkers not doers.
      The most powerful marketing advantage you can have is to have a better product. Marketing is only a reflection of a product.

      Think of:

      A. What am I most passionate about
      B. Where can I deliver the most value

      Then create a truly outstanding product. Marketing is a reflection of your product - if your product is good your marketing is far better.

      "Good marketing starts with a good product" - Donald Trump

      I am telling you dude, sell something other than internet marketing - forget about what other people do, you dont have to be corrupt to make money. Its really not nessecary and even dangerous to you.

      Start by thinking of how to create the best, product that delivers unique advantages no one else does. Start with a good product that delivers unique advantages other people dont and your marketing will be 10x better.

      All of marketing is based on your product and your company.
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