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Hello Warriorforum,

For the past few weeks I've been working on a new product and finished the sales page just yesterday. As this is my first sales page I was wondering whether someone could take a quick look and possibly give me some tips on how to improve it.

The URL is DareToPerform.Com

Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Bart
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  • Bart,


    some quick improvements I spotted as soon as I jumped on your page:


    The BIG one:

    You're trying to appeal to everyone. Who is your target market? Who are you trying to sell to? I realise there's people from EVERY age group wanting their dream life to come true, but you can't sell to all people in one letter.

    Focus on one market, and go from there. Trust me - this is one of your copy's biggest problems right now.




    1.) Make your headline punchier. "Stop letting"? It's boring!

    Try something like "Destroy that fear and start living your dream life!"

    Keep it short and punchy.




    2.) Space out your paragraphs. Split some of them up - they look long and boring to read, and half of your prospects will simply take one look and run. Space it out, throw in some sub-heads, and make it look easy to read. People are lazy - make it easy for 'em.

    3.) Where's your list of benefits?

    What is this product going to give your prospects? You've promised them a 'dream life', but what does that entail? Tell your prospects HOW they're going to benefit from your book. Get them excited - damnit, this is their dream life! Tell them how awesome it's going to be! (Just don't go the route of hype - that rarely sells well).

    4.) Cut back on the bolding some. It's used way too much, and detracts from your message. Enhancements like italics and bold shouldn't be noticed - they should be so much a part of the copy, they're simply there to enhance your message - and not detract and distract from it like they're currently doing.

    5.) Make your current bullets shorter. Bullets are meant to be short and snappy, not paragraphs long. Remember, some of your prospects will skim read - bullets are where you'll catch these people - make them look quick and easy (apply this to your bullet list of benefits also)

    6.) Finally, I'd suggest you get more testimonials. A $47 book is an expensive book in some people's eyes - give them some social proof and eliminate their fears of this just being another pipe dream. Make it REAL.

    Do these things and you should see a big improvement.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bart de Koning
      Thank you so much for taking your time to help me out! It's very much appreciated.

      I've tried to implement as much of the tips you've given me and I've updated the page and I must say that it looks a whole lot better already.

      The biggest problem with my sales page might still exist, though. My target market is that of people that suffer from performance anxiety, fear of failure and stage fright. It's a very small niche and I don't see how I can split it up any further without losing out on too many visitors. I have, however, tried to make it clearer that it's about those fears, not fear in general.

      I, unfortunately, couldn't get more social proof as I have only given away a few review copies of the book. It's not being sold just yet and I don't want to fake reviews. Instead, I've opted to lower the price of the book to just $27 dollars. I might raise the price again once I do get some social proof.

      Thanks again,
      Bart

      Originally Posted by CharismaticMannequin View Post

      Bart,


      some quick improvements I spotted as soon as I jumped on your page:


      The BIG one:

      You're trying to appeal to everyone. Who is your target market? Who are you trying to sell to? I realise there's people from EVERY age group wanting their dream life to come true, but you can't sell to all people in one letter.

      Focus on one market, and go from there. Trust me - this is one of your copy's biggest problems right now.




      1.) Make your headline punchier. "Stop letting"? It's boring!

      Try something like "Destroy that fear and start living your dream life!"

      Keep it short and punchy.




      2.) Space out your paragraphs. Split some of them up - they look long and boring to read, and half of your prospects will simply take one look and run. Space it out, throw in some sub-heads, and make it look easy to read. People are lazy - make it easy for 'em.

      3.) Where's your list of benefits?

      What is this product going to give your prospects? You've promised them a 'dream life', but what does that entail? Tell your prospects HOW they're going to benefit from your book. Get them excited - damnit, this is their dream life! Tell them how awesome it's going to be! (Just don't go the route of hype - that rarely sells well).

      4.) Cut back on the bolding some. It's used way too much, and detracts from your message. Enhancements like italics and bold shouldn't be noticed - they should be so much a part of the copy, they're simply there to enhance your message - and not detract and distract from it like they're currently doing.

      5.) Make your current bullets shorter. Bullets are meant to be short and snappy, not paragraphs long. Remember, some of your prospects will skim read - bullets are where you'll catch these people - make them look quick and easy (apply this to your bullet list of benefits also)

      6.) Finally, I'd suggest you get more testimonials. A $47 book is an expensive book in some people's eyes - give them some social proof and eliminate their fears of this just being another pipe dream. Make it REAL.

      Do these things and you should see a big improvement.
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  • Profile picture of the author SamKane
    I think the headline needs work. It should reveal a little bit about what the book is about.

    Try using what you have in one of your benefits:

    BRAIN HACKING:
    How To Rewire Your Brain To
    Make Your Fears Disappear
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  • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
    Here are some ideas.

    TARGET Market.

    "The idea of making a presentation in public is the No. 1 fear reported by people in the U.S." according to Dr. Paul Witt.

    The fear of performing in public has killed many a bright future.

    Ever hear of pro golfer Moe Norman?

    He is considered by his peers as being one of the greatest golfers in history but he suffered from PERFORMANCE anxiety and was unable to fulfill his potential.

    Are you letting FEAR keeping you from fulfilling your potential?

    &&&&&&&

    Flip and twist the above and you get a more targeted headline to involve your readers. Keep your gym story in, edit it a bit...but it works AFTER you present the PROBLEM...then you can offer up the solution.

    The yellow is hard to read on the blue.

    I'd put in page numbers on the bullets, it is tested and proven for selling books.

    That's for starters, hope it helps a little.

    gjabiz




    Originally Posted by Bart de Koning View Post

    Hello Warriorforum,

    For the past few weeks I've been working on a new product and finished the sales page just yesterday. As this is my first sales page I was wondering whether someone could take a quick look and possibly give me some tips on how to improve it.

    The URL is DareToPerform.Com

    Any help would be greatly appreciated,
    Bart
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  • Profile picture of the author aroth
    I'd say your headline and sub-headline needs a lot more punch! It's just bland.

    "Crush your fears and live your dream life"

    ^^^It's too straight-forward, you want to punch up the emotion. Like just off the top of my head I'd say something like...

    "What has your fear cost you? When will it be Enough Already? How about TODAY! Discover how you can transform the "power" that holds you back to the "power" that sets you free!"

    Following something like that come in with the sub-headline, so it'll read something like this:

    "What has your fear cost you? When will it be Enough Already? How about TODAY! Discover how you can transform the "power" that holds you back to the "power" that sets you free!
    Instantly Download the secret to Getting over your fear of failure, performance anxiety, and stage fright Today!"

    Bam! a headline like that immediately pulls them in emotionally. From there your job is to not "screw it up!"
    I like that you open with a story in your copy about how you were where they are...I think you could use more benefits though. I'd layer the bulletpoints you have. Sell the gratification.

    For Example your first benefit simply adding something in a parenthesis that sells the relief will give it more emotional punch like so:

    You will start to love competition instead of hate it!(This took me from a run of the mill employee to promoted in 90 days)

    ^^^You see how that adds extra punch. Outside of that I think you could use some more bulletpoints, you want to stack the awesome! And, I think you could use more copy. The page is too thin.

    I hope this helps, best of luck with your product.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bart de Koning
    Thanks a whole bunch guys! I really appreciate all the effort you put into helping me. I'm getting to work on my headline and other problems right now.

    Bart

    Edit: Aroth, are you okay with me using your headline? I absolutely love it.
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    • Profile picture of the author aroth
      Originally Posted by Bart de Koning View Post

      Thanks a whole bunch guys! I really appreciate all the effort you put into helping me. I'm getting to work on my headline and other problems right now.

      Bart

      Edit: Aroth, are you okay with me using your headline? I absolutely love it.
      Sure, use it. I have no problem with it whatsoever. Let me know how it performs. Good luck bro.
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      • Profile picture of the author andrewkar
        Hi Bart,

        1) Get rid of photo (or leave it for later on...)
        2) Headline is weak...
        3) ...because you don't know who your target is...
        4) ... and what they want...
        5) No one gives a shit about "your competition during gymnastics..."
        6) Logo doesn't work...
        7) Page is too wide...
        8) Copy is too short...
        9) overall GOOD try!

        Keep in mind. I'm not a PRO like many guys out there so take my advice easy...

        Anyway, your offer in current state is weak... You need to focus on and learn your target market!

        Then, find out your BIG IDEA... meaning you MUST present your product as a completely new idea.

        Just my 5 c
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        • Profile picture of the author Bart de Koning
          Hey Andrew, thanks for the reply! Appreciate it.

          I do have a few questions though.

          1) May I ask why I should get rid of the photograph?
          2) Do you have any suggestions for a new headline? I personally really like this one.

          Hope to get a reply,
          Bart
          Originally Posted by andrewkar View Post

          Hi Bart,

          1) Get rid of photo (or leave it for later on...)
          2) Headline is weak...
          3) ...because you don't know who your target is...
          4) ... and what they want...
          5) No one gives a shit about "your competition during gymnastics..."
          6) Logo doesn't work...
          7) Page is too wide...
          8) Copy is too short...
          9) overall GOOD try!

          Keep in mind. I'm not a PRO like many guys out there so take my advice easy...

          Anyway, your offer in current state is weak... You need to focus on and learn your target market!

          Then, find out your BIG IDEA... meaning you MUST present your product as a completely new idea.

          Just my 5 c
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  • Profile picture of the author Bart de Koning
    Updated the copy with an excerpt of the book providing a little more actual value in the sales page. Any input is still very much appreciated, though!
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  • Profile picture of the author copyassassin
    Bart,

    Instead of just saying your sales page sucks, which it does, here are a couple of helpful pointers I urge you to consider:

    Your Mark
    Gordon already mentioned this, but I feel it's worth stating again:

    There is no clear avatar.

    A well done sales letter should disqualify 95% of everybody, and just be focused on a specific person.

    ONE person.

    And this ONE person has ONE primary issue. Pick one. Only one.

    And don't say, "the market is too small to focus on one."

    If you like sport performance, go with that one. If you like stage acting, go with that one. Maybe since you live in the Netherlands, you can do a book on how females can achieve real orgasms while on stage as complete strangers watching.

    Whatever niche you choose, make a commitment to serve that niche.

    And beyond a niche, serve ONE person.

    Why You?
    There is no real reason to trust you, based on the copy.

    Now, I did read you don't have a lot of social proof.

    This, by the way, is very common for NEW projects.

    A quick work-o-round is to get video testimonials of your friends saying they knew you when you were a scared little kid, and now you're a fearless dude. That you discovered some "secrets" that you haven't shared, but they've noticed a major change in you.

    You can also cite scientific literature on the subject, and incorporate that into your copy and product itself.

    For example, you could say, "I accidently discovered this method, which I called "X" that boosted my confidence and overcame childhood fears almost immediately. I was shocked. It was only when reviewing Harvard Psychology today, volume 2 issue 3, where Professor "Z" validated this same method did I realize just how powerful "X" is."

    BTW, there is so much "scientific research" over there that you can find just about anything to prove your point. Just make sure it comes from a university that has credibility where you live.

    Be Real
    You think you can actually get rid of fear?

    I don't think so.

    Fear, while in many cases is "bad", can serve for good purposes as well.

    Therefore, "fear" isn't the true issue.

    The true issue is being able to perform even in the midst of fear. To not be negatively effected by fear.

    To be able to use fear to your personal benefit. To be able to master fear and evaluate that emotion to it's highest use.

    That is something worth reading.

    And trust me, "A" players DO experience fear. They just happen to not let it effect their performance results. (As a quick aside, if you are a professional who no longer gets "butterflies in their stomach", that's when you should really be afraid!)

    What did you find helpful about my post?

    I look forward to your reply.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bart de Koning
      Thanks so much for the feedback, I really appreciate it and will try to implement most of it right away!

      I have a question though.

      Do you have any suggestions on how to improve the avatar? I'm not a graphic designer and this was one of the standard avatars that came with my sales page package.

      Oh, one more thing. I agree that getting rid of fear is absolutely impossible. However, I know from experience that it feels like that. There is a big difference between being actually terrified and just feeling nervous, the latter hardly qualifies as true fear in my opinion.

      Anyway, your post is very, very much appreciated, I'm sure it's going to help me a whole lot!

      Bart

      Originally Posted by copyassassin View Post

      Bart,

      Instead of just saying your sales page sucks, which it does, here are a couple of helpful pointers I urge you to consider:

      Your Mark
      Gordon already mentioned this, but I feel it's worth stating again:

      There is no clear avatar.

      A well done sales letter should disqualify 95% of everybody, and just be focused on a specific person.

      ONE person.

      And this ONE person has ONE primary issue. Pick one. Only one.

      And don't say, "the market is too small to focus on one."

      If you like sport performance, go with that one. If you like stage acting, go with that one. Maybe since you live in the Netherlands, you can do a book on how females can achieve real orgasms while on stage as complete strangers watching.

      Whatever niche you choose, make a commitment to serve that niche.

      And beyond a niche, serve ONE person.

      Why You?
      There is no real reason to trust you, based on the copy.

      Now, I did read you don't have a lot of social proof.

      This, by the way, is very common for NEW projects.

      A quick work-o-round is to get video testimonials of your friends saying they knew you when you were a scared little kid, and now you're a fearless dude. That you discovered some "secrets" that you haven't shared, but they've noticed a major change in you.

      You can also cite scientific literature on the subject, and incorporate that into your copy and product itself.

      For example, you could say, "I accidently discovered this method, which I called "X" that boosted my confidence and overcame childhood fears almost immediately. I was shocked. It was only when reviewing Harvard Psychology today, volume 2 issue 3, where Professor "Z" validated this same method did I realize just how powerful "X" is."

      BTW, there is so much "scientific research" over there that you can find just about anything to prove your point. Just make sure it comes from a university that has credibility where you live.

      Be Real
      You think you can actually get rid of fear?

      I don't think so.

      Fear, while in many cases is "bad", can serve for good purposes as well.

      Therefore, "fear" isn't the true issue.

      The true issue is being able to perform even in the midst of fear. To not be negatively effected by fear.

      To be able to use fear to your personal benefit. To be able to master fear and evaluate that emotion to it's highest use.

      That is something worth reading.

      And trust me, "A" players DO experience fear. They just happen to not let it effect their performance results. (As a quick aside, if you are a professional who no longer gets "butterflies in their stomach", that's when you should really be afraid!)

      What did you find helpful about my post?

      I look forward to your reply.
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      • Profile picture of the author copyassassin
        Originally Posted by Bart de Koning View Post

        Do you have any suggestions on how to improve the avatar? I'm not a graphic designer and this was one of the standard avatars that came with my sales page package.

        Bart
        Bart,

        Great question with a simple answer.

        Avatar has two meaning, with one being specific to copywriting (the other to design).

        In the world of copywriting, an "avatar" is a mental picture of your target buyer.

        This "avatar" is a market researched based drawing of your target customer.

        In other words, this has nothing to do with design.

        For example, my primary source of income is as a "wealth protector". My client avatar looks like this:
        • Male
        • 40-60 age
        • white
        • Socially liberal, fiscally conservative
        • College educated
        • Married (usually once)
        • Make over $250,000 a year
        • have two or more homes
        • they travel around the world
        • They hate paying taxes
        • They enjoy watching sports


        Although somewhat basic, this is the "avatar" I'm speaking about.

        You need to create one for your product.

        If you are having problems with creating one, use yourself.

        Trust me, you do have profile that other people share.

        And once you have a clear understanding of your avatar, you can write copy that would CONVINCE that person.

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        • Profile picture of the author Bart de Koning
          Aha okay! That makes sense. You're right, though. I haven't got a clear avatar now. I'll get on it right this moment.

          Thanks again for the immense amount of feedback and help you're giving me!

          Bart

          Originally Posted by copyassassin View Post

          Bart,

          Great question with a simple answer.

          Avatar has two meaning, with one being specific to copywriting (the other to design).

          In the world of copywriting, an "avatar" is a mental picture of your target buyer.

          This "avatar" is a market researched based drawing of your target customer.

          In other words, this has nothing to do with design.

          For example, my primary source of income is as a "wealth protector". My client avatar looks like this:
          • Male
          • 40-60 age
          • white
          • Socially liberal, fiscally conservative
          • College educated
          • Married (usually once)
          • Make over $250,000 a year
          • have two or more homes
          • they travel around the world
          • They hate paying taxes
          • They enjoy watching sports


          Although somewhat basic, this is the "avatar" I'm speaking about.

          You need to create one for your product.

          If you are having problems with creating one, use yourself.

          Trust me, you do have profile that other people share.

          And once you have a clear understanding of your avatar, you can write copy that would CONVINCE that person.

          Adam
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  • Profile picture of the author CurtisSWN
    I don't know about your actual plan, but if I didn't know better you're basically giving the visitor one shot to buy your ebook, then they are gone forever.

    What if you had a squeeze page offering a free shortened ebook of your course/plan and then they are on your list and you can drip feed them info, all the while whetting their appetite for your full ebook/course/membership site?

    It seems here they have to swallow the whole enchilada right off the bat. How about if you present some irresistible free stuff in a above-the-fold squeeze page: 3 or 4 of your most powerful bullet points and email capture?

    This way you have now the luxury of relationship building through a list, and the possibility of further monetizing through affiliate sales of other products/services.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bart de Koning
      I am going to set up a squeeze page, I just chose to do my sales page first.
      Originally Posted by CurtisSWN View Post

      I don't know about your actual plan, but if I didn't know better you're basically giving the visitor one shot to buy your ebook, then they are gone forever.
      By the way, I have updated the page again. I now focus solely on performance anxiety in sports.

      My avatar looks like this:

      -Age 18-30
      -Highly competitive in sports
      -Performance anxiety is holding them back
      -Intense desire to win
      -Intense hatred for losing
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  • Profile picture of the author Bart de Koning
    Updated the sales page again.

    -Added some more benefits and features of the book
    -Added a testimonial from a friend that has known me since birth
    -Added a reason for the creation of this product

    I hope it improves the sales page a bit, suggestions are still very welcome, though!
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    • Profile picture of the author copyassassin
      Originally Posted by Bart de Koning View Post

      Updated the sales page again.

      -Added some more benefits and features of the book
      -Added a testimonial from a friend that has known me since birth
      -Added a reason for the creation of this product

      I hope it improves the sales page a bit, suggestions are still very welcome, though!
      Bart,

      This is an improvement!

      It's nice to see a person take our advise and actual change their sales page AND show it to us.

      I appreciate that.

      However, still more work to be done.

      I'm not sure how to say this in terms of actual copy, but I think the idea that somehow those that are successful are those that can effectively manage their emotions AND STILL get results.

      Example: A.) Kobe is in court for rape charges, yet still manages to fly to the game and score 30 points B.) Tiger loses his father and still wins the Masters C.) you get the idea.


      The key issue is: WHEN you are overcome with emotions that COULD negatively effect performance, how methods/strageteges/tactics can an average person do to effectively be able to "hit the override button to kick ass".

      The imagine that comes to me here is the Olympics.

      Basically these athletes train for 3 1/2 years to do be perfect for about 10 seconds.

      And in those 10 seconds the person's fate is sealed: Gold = fame. Silver = sadness. Everything else puts you as irreverent.

      In other words, do you want to waste 3 1/2 years of life because you can't handle the emotion of the moment, get a little distracted, and blow the Gold by .053 because fear messed you up.

      Winners perform even in the face of fear. They temporarily overcome it, master it, for a belief moment to get the result they want.

      Again, I don't know how to put this into copy without spending a little time on this one.

      However, I think it's worth developing.

      I think you should also emphasize what it means to win, and what it means to lose.

      Glory vs Disgust.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bart de Koning
    In other words, do you want to waste 3 1/2 years of life because you can't handle the emotion of the moment, get a little distracted, and blow the Gold by .053 because fear messed you up.
    This little piece of text is absolutely brilliant and the fear to get into such a situation was exactly where my performance anxiety came from.*

    I think you should also emphasize what it means to win, and what it means to lose.

    Glory vs Disgust.
    Brilliant idea as well! Should not be too hard to implement. However, it does take away another part of the letter - putting things in perspective.

    Looking at my avatar, though, people I want to sell to don't want to put anything in perspective so I guess I'll go for your suggestion.


    Thanks so much for taking out your, undoubtedly valuable, time to help me!

    Bart
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  • Profile picture of the author Bart de Koning
    I've updated the sales page again.

    -Changed the headline to implement the "olympic image"
    -Improved the syntax of the first six paragraphs.
    -Improved the "Yes" and "No" list.
    -Made a better approach to the book-excerpt, giving it more value.
    -Added another sub-headline right before the 'add to cart' button.

    I think all of these things are improvements, I do, however have a question.

    If I'd receive more testimonials, what would be the best place to put them. I was thinking to do it just before I reveal the price. Giving even more proof leading up to the big decision.

    This sales page wouldn't be half as good as it is now without your help. It might still suck because of the terrible foundation it was built on, though.

    Any input on the new update is very much appreciated!

    Bart
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    • Originally Posted by Bart de Koning View Post

      I've updated the sales page again.

      Changed the headline to implement the "olympic image"
      OK, you have that logo or whatever acting as a kind of pre-head: "Dare To Perform," "Get Over Your Anxiety and Start Winning." From that I can deduce that the page has something to do with performance anxiety. The "Start Winning" may or may not be some figurative promise that has nothing to do with actual sports winning -- it could just be a life promise using a sports metaphor.

      Then I read the headline and see "When Will You Stop Letting Your Anxiety Prevent You From Getting Your Gold Medal?" Again, I still can't tell whether this is a general performance-anxiety product that's clumsily using a sports metaphor. The hyperbolic "gold medal" actually reinforces the possibility that it's just some trite sports metaphor.

      It's only when I start reading your body copy that I eventually figure out you're talking about literal winning and literal gold medals.

      I also think the headline requires too much thinking. There's thinking about the question, there's thinking in resolving the meaning of "stop letting ... prevent" (which is akin to a double negative), there's thinking in translating the whole thing to a positive benefit. I think one of the copywriting nerds on this forum could generate a far more punchy headline for you.

      The other main above-the-fold stuff delivers a three-pronged attack on your credibility:
      1. Your photo, sorry to say, has you young-looking, handsome, and Justin Bieberish. I'd expect this photo to work much better in the music niche, not in the rough-and-tumble sports competition niche. My avatar photo, on the other hand, has universal appeal that would work really well for you.
      2. "From the desk of" makes me want to punch my computer screen. I really wish I could dismember the testicles of the cretin who first started using that online (sorry for any sexism here).
      3. You have a very unfortunate name. Bart de Koning just doesn't resonate as credible with us American idiots. Most of us are going to think Bart Simpson. Or Bart Simpson coning at his local drive-thru. Essentially, the name seems made-up.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bart de Koning
        Thanks a whole lot for your insightful reply!

        You're absolutely right on the pre-head and headline. Changing them will be the first thing on my list when I get to work on my sales page again.

        Aside from that, I know my name and looks are indeed, for this type of business, terrible. But, I really don't know what to do about it. Would you advise just putting up a fake name and picture?

        Well, thanks again,

        Bart

        Originally Posted by WhoElseWantsTheTruth View Post

        OK, you have that logo or whatever acting as a kind of pre-head: "Dare To Perform," "Get Over Your Anxiety and Start Winning." From that I can deduce that the page has something to do with performance anxiety. The "Start Winning" may or may not be some figurative promise that has anything to do with actual sports winning -- it could just be a life promise using a sports metaphor.

        Then I read the headline and see "When Will You Stop Letting Your Anxiety Prevent You From Getting Your Gold Medal?" Again, I still can't tell whether this is a general performance-anxiety product that's clumsily using a sports metaphor. The hyperbolic "gold medal" actually reinforces the possibility that it's just some trite sports metaphor.

        It's only when I start reading your body copy that I eventually figure out you're talking about literal winning and literal gold medals.

        I also think the headline requires too much thinking. There's thinking about the question, there's thinking in resolving the meaning of "stop letting ... prevent" (which is akin to a double negative), there's thinking in translating the whole thing to a positive benefit. I think one of the copywriting nerds on this forum could generate a far more punchy headline for you.

        The other main above-the-fold stuff delivers a three-pronged attack on your credibility:
        1. Your photo, sorry to say, has you young-looking, handsome, and Justin Bieberish. I'd expect this photo to work much better in the music niche, not in the rough-and-tumble sports competition niche. My avatar photo, on the other hand, has universal appeal that would work really well for you.
        2. "From the desk of" makes me want to punch my computer screen. I really wish I could dismember the testicles of the cretin who first started using that online (sorry for any sexism here).
        3. You have a very unfortunate name. Bart de Koning just doesn't resonate as credible with us American idiots. Most of us are going to think Bart Simpson. Or Bart Simpson coning at his local drive-thru. Essentially, the name seems made-up.
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        • Originally Posted by Bart de Koning View Post

          Aside from that, I know my name and looks are indeed, for this type of business, terrible. But, I really don't know what to do about it. Would you advise just putting up a fake name and picture?
          Fake names and pictures are saintly compared with what I'm betting some of these evil marketers here do to take my pizza money.

          But I think fake names -- or, if you prefer, pseudonyms -- are a long-standing tradition in the literary world and nothing to be ashamed of.

          I'm not sure whether using fake pics is equally aboveboard. Using a fake pic isn't your only alternative to using the current pic, though. You can try not using a pic (many of the sites with video sales "letters" don't bother using pics). Or you can try a real pic but a different one: say, get yourself a baseball cap and lose the smile, which may convey a bit more sporting intensity, helped by your masculine jawline.

          The best pic choice of all would be getting my avatar on there. Get the big guy on there, and he'll convert for you like crazy.
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