Sales Page Split Test

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Hey there, me again...

Thanks again to everyone who gave me such great advice on my website over the past few days.

I've taken all of your comments and suggestions and finally wrapped up a new sales page that is a pretty big contrast from what I started with.

If I could trouble some of you one more time to take a look at both pages and let me know if I'm on the right track, then I'll commence to being a great copywriter that can pay it forward with insightful advice and suggestions across this great forum here...eventually....

Anyway, just one more peek and I'll leave everyone at peace...

The current (old) page: www.jeremeyhunsicker.com
The new & (hopefully) improved page: Test Page | SEO Copywriting & Content ProviderSEO Copywriting & Content Provider

Thanks again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Gould
    Hi Jeremy,

    Yep, your test page is a step in the right direction.

    But I'm not sure about your positioning. To me, you're coming off as a content writer who also writes copy, rather than a copywriter who can provide content. And I think that's the lower value position.

    A few other thoughts:

    Who are you targeting with this, who's your ideal client?

    Your body copy font's a touch small.

    Will your prospects know what "post-Penguin world" means, or will you have them cowering under their desks at the fear of a penguin takeover of the world?

    I think the vertical bar on your "Build Your Traffic" subhead looks too much like the letter I.

    "And I'm telling you that I can put together the right words to make you money." Urgh. Don't tell me, show me.

    Switch your last bullet list from I, I, I to you, you, you.

    If someone reads the whole page and gets to the bottom, the only option they've got is to go to a contact page. I'd either give more options or just put the contact form there (and on your contact page give more ways to contact you).

    Get rid of the powered by Wordpress link, the link in your copyright info and the page title on your homepage - it doesn't add anything.

    Start building a list.

    On your services pages your prices are above the fold - I can see them before I read your pitch which means I'm going to be judging you on th price you charge rather than the value you offer.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremey
      Originally Posted by Andrew Gould View Post

      Hi Jeremy,

      Yep, your test page is a step in the right direction.

      But I'm not sure about your positioning. To me, you're coming off as a content writer who also writes copy, rather than a copywriter who can provide content. And I think that's the lower value position.

      A few other thoughts:

      Who are you targeting with this, who's your ideal client?

      Your body copy font's a touch small.

      Will your prospects know what "post-Penguin world" means, or will you have them cowering under their desks at the fear of a penguin takeover of the world?

      I think the vertical bar on your "Build Your Traffic" subhead looks too much like the letter I.

      "And I'm telling you that I can put together the right words to make you money." Urgh. Don't tell me, show me.

      Switch your last bullet list from I, I, I to you, you, you.

      If someone reads the whole page and gets to the bottom, the only option they've got is to go to a contact page. I'd either give more options or just put the contact form there (and on your contact page give more ways to contact you).

      Get rid of the powered by Wordpress link, the link in your copyright info and the page title on your homepage - it doesn't add anything.

      Start building a list.

      On your services pages your prices are above the fold - I can see them before I read your pitch which means I'm going to be judging you on th price you charge rather than the value you offer.
      Thanks for the insight, Andrew...I've implemented some of your suggestions to the best of my ability...

      Regarding positioning, I think right now I'm in a stronger position to lead as a content writer and follow that with my copywriting services. Simply because testimonials and results are so much more important when selling copy versus content...It's easy to use my qualifications to push the content angle, but to market myself effectively as a copywriter primarily, I'll have to show measurable results from past work and rely much more on "hard data," which I'm still trying to develop as I'm starting off.

      RE list building, I'm going to check into any effective WordPress plugins that do a good job of capturing lists - are there good backend email list managers that handle subscriptions, autoresponders, etc? I'm sure there are, I'll just have to do more research...
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      • Profile picture of the author Andrew Gould
        Hi Jeremey,

        Apologies for spelling your name wrong in my first post.

        RE list building, I'm going to check into any effective WordPress plugins that do a good job of capturing lists - are there good backend email list managers that handle subscriptions, autoresponders, etc? I'm sure there are, I'll just have to do more research...
        Aweber or GetResponse are probably your best options. I can't speak for GetResponse as I've never used it, but Aweber is very easy to use with Wordpress - you can either use their plug-in or just copy and paste the code from their online form editor.

        And there are third party plug-ins for both to make them look nice, integrate them with Facebook, etc.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeremey
          Originally Posted by Andrew Gould View Post

          Hi Jeremey,

          Apologies for spelling your name wrong in my first post.



          Aweber or GetResponse are probably your best options. I can't speak for GetResponse as I've never used it, but Aweber is very easy to use with Wordpress - you can either use their plug-in or just copy and paste the code from their online form editor.

          And there are third party plug-ins for both to make them look nice, integrate them with Facebook, etc.
          Thanks so much Andrew, I will look into both options and see which is best suited to integrate into my site.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheSalesBooster
    You implemented some good ideas, like using your picture.

    But you're still lacking in your presentation. Like I mentioned before... Your text is too small and its annoying to read being off to the left in such small font.

    2. Your headline? If you call that a headline, Isn't easy to read. Make your headline text and not an image. Your headline is the first thing people are going to see. If you don't catch their attention with a strong headline they won't read the rest of your pitch.

    Stop thinking like a graphic designer and start thinking about whats important. Your 'cool' designed site isn't going to sell anything for you. Only your words can convince someone to buy.

    Either make your text more presentable and easier to read or ditch the design. It's not doing you any favors having all that crap on the right hand side. You should be including that into your pitch. Otherwise its a distraction. You don't want to break the flow of your pitch by having a bunch of nonsense begging people to look to see what this big red shiny image is on the right.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremey
      Originally Posted by TheSalesBooster View Post

      You implemented some good ideas, like using your picture.

      But you're still lacking in your presentation. Like I mentioned before... Your text is too small and its annoying to read being off to the left in such small font.

      2. Your headline? If you call that a headline, Isn't easy to read. Make your headline text and not an image. Your headline is the first thing people are going to see. If you don't catch their attention with a strong headline they won't read the rest of your pitch.

      Stop thinking like a graphic designer and start thinking about whats important. Your 'cool' designed site isn't going to sell anything for you. Only your words can convince someone to buy.

      Either make your text more presentable and easier to read or ditch the design. It's not doing you any favors having all that crap on the right hand side. You should be including that into your pitch. Otherwise its a distraction. You don't want to break the flow of your pitch by having a bunch of nonsense begging people to look to see what this big red shiny image is on the right.
      Thanks, I am using a WordPress template and had to get into the code a bit but I was able to adjust the headline and body fonts (those weren't images in the headline, it was just the font the theme had set up)...Hopefully things are a bit more readable at this point - I'm not sure I'm ready to part with the sidebar images of the services, although I did tone them down and make them quite a bit smaller. There really isn't any other graphical content on the site at all, and the sidebar doesn't interfere with the function and usability. So I'm not sure how to punch up the page other than a few tasteful badges along the sidebar...
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  • I'm not a fan of photos where the subject is touching, or blocking their face.

    I developed this aversion from years doing stand-up and public speaking. Sometimes stand-ups or speakers will have a head shot where they look to be resting their chin on their fist, or sort of in between their thumb and forefingers. Really annoying and 1980s-ish.

    It doesn't mean you have to be all smiley or fakey, but I'd change the photo.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremey
      Originally Posted by Joe Ditzel View Post

      I'm not a fan of photos where the subject is touching, or blocking their face.

      I developed this aversion from years doing stand-up and public speaking. Sometimes stand-ups or speakers will have a head shot where they look to be resting their chin on their fist, or sort of in between their thumb and forefingers. Really annoying and 1980s-ish.

      It doesn't mean you have to be all smiley or fakey, but I'd change the photo.
      Thanks Joe, that's actually not me...I did an image search with the keywords "Handsome" and "smart," and found that guy, so I plugged it in the site.

      Actually, I know what you mean...But I have to use that standard pose in photos to block my giant goiter. :rolleyes:

      Ahhhhhhh.....so...anyway (LOL)

      But seriously, thanks for the insight. Unfortunately the only pro shots I have are "pub" shots from my music career, so I'm kinda stuck with the "thoughtful, hand on chin" pose or "surly rock dude glaring at the camera." If I can ever get to the point to get a few more shots done (that aren't from my wife's iPhone or me holding my kids up to my mug) I'll try to change things up...

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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremey
        From the comments here, it's clear that the test page is much more effective than the original, so I'm going to go ahead and replace it. Thanks again everyone!
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  • Hi Jeremey,

    The pages and graphics are much improved. The copy is better but still a bit bland and general.

    You do give lots of features. "Riveting," 'Dynamic" and "Engaging" are great power verbs but where are the benefits? - you have to write them, even if they are blindingly obvious.

    Don't leave it to your audience to work them out. Because the vast majority won't bother.

    There's not enough emotional impact - making people say "Yes, yes yes, we need this and we must have it now!"

    Essentially you're saying what everybody else is saying - "Excellent SEO writing" But you need to do lots more.

    If not, I don't think you'll get you the response you want.

    In an overcrowded marketplace you have to completely differentiate yourself from the hoards of competition by showing HOW you improve on all the ways that make SEO outstandingly good. And hammer those point across. Your people now see - you truly are leagues better than the rest.

    This might be more difficult. But If you have a way of ensuring your writing is so much better - this is usually done by creating a new "mechanism" ** - a different and better way of doing it, then you need to REALLY emphasise it.

    You'll stand out from the crowd and with the right traffic and lots of it, you'll start getting the clients you want.

    Hope this helps a bit.

    Steve


    P.S. I know it's not easy particularly when you are very close to your copy.

    Try this as an experiment -

    Say we gave you this headline 'Why My SEO Articles Consistently Drive 67% More Qualified Visitors To My Clients' Websites" - could you prove how this is done?

    If that's too much of a stretch. Assume you have a new client. The "client" wants an article proving why he is the best SEO writer on the planet. Now just write a spellbinding article.

    What they do, how they do it and why they're better than the rest.

    It's a lot simpler when it's not you isn't it?

    So do it, then make it you.


    ** from "Breakthrough Advertising" - Eugene Schwartz
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremey
      Originally Posted by Steve The Copywriter View Post

      Hi Jeremy,

      The pages and graphics are much improved. The copy is better but still a bit bland and general. You do give lots of features - "Riveting" "Engaging" and great power verbs but what is the benefit? There's not don't have enough emotional impact. Essentially you're saying what everybody else is saying. And I don't think you'll get you the response you want.

      In an overcrowded marketplace you have to completely differentiate yourself from the hoards of competition by showing HOW you improve on all the ways that make SEO outstandingly good. And hammer those point across. Your people now see that you truly are leagues better than the rest.

      This might be more difficult. But If you have a way of ensuring your writing is so much better - this is usually done by creating a new "mechanism" (read "Breakthrough Advertising" - Eugene Schwartz) - a different and better way of doing it, then you need to REALLY emphasise it.

      You'll stand out from the crowd and with the right traffic and lots of it, you'll start getting the clients you want.

      Hope this helps a bit.

      Steve


      P.S. I know it's not easy particularly as you are very close to your copy.

      Try this as an experiment -

      Say we gave you this headline 'Why My SEO Articles Consistently Drive 67% More Qualified Visitors To My Clients Websites" - could you prove how this is done?

      If that's too much of a stretch. Assume you have a new client. The "client" wants and article proving why he is the best SEO writer on the planet. Now just write a spellbinding article.

      What they do, how they do it and why they're better than the rest.

      It's a lot simpler when it's not you isn't it?

      So do it, then make it you.
      Thanks again Steve for some valuable insight. I am getting to the point where I see that the copy aspect of my site will be something of a long term work in progress where I work at perfecting it a little at a time. I agree, it's a "close" subject and I'm extra sensitive and maybe a little overly critical of my abilities due to my shortage of real world success stories. I've worked the copy on the entire site for about 2 weeks now and I'm going to need to spend some quality time at this point trying to generate more work, as I'm starting to hear a few wolves at my door here. I just finished my first "official" web copy project today, generated from my WFH ad, so hopefully some work will start filtering in.

      I will be sure to mark the Schwartz book and add it to my reading list as well.

      Thanks again!!
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  • Now, now you mustn't reply before I've finished editing my post (lol).

    The great thing is - you're listening to, taking in and implementing the suggestions people are giving.

    Use the ones you most agree with and feel will work best for you.


    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author JimDucharme
    Hi Jeremey,

    Don't be afraid to call up any ESP/AR you are considering and ask questions! Feel free to drop me a note via Skype or Twitter if you have any about GetResponse or call or email our customer care team.

    Good luck!

    Regards,
    jim
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremey
      Originally Posted by JimDucharme View Post

      Hi Jeremey,

      Don't be afraid to call up any ESP/AR you are considering and ask questions! Feel free to drop me a note via Skype or Twitter if you have any about GetResponse or call or email our customer care team.

      Good luck!

      Regards,
      jim
      Thanks Jim, I'm going to check this out as soon as I can get my head above water here in the next day or so!
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremey
        Well, after a week or so of having the site online, I'd love to give some feedback about the results I've seen but I haven't had much luck getting anything rolling yet, LOL. I'm running 2 articles in the Warriors For Hire forum and had a couple hits last week, but when I bounced them both yesterday I got a 0.0 response rate. So I think I must be really off the mark with my presentation and pitch. I do have a lot of very cheap work I booked last week that is keeping me busy for the next day or so, so once the dust clears I'll be trying to revamp things again. Is there any other places (besides the bid sites) that are good to advertise or contribute to that are worth checking out? I'd rather it not be the case, but circumstances have put me in a position where this is the only source of income I have for the time being, though I feel like I'm making some steady progress.

        Thanks again everyone for the great tips!
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        • Profile picture of the author Andrew Gould
          Originally Posted by Steve The Copywriter View Post

          ...Andrew it might be the OP prefers to go with the herd. Or maybe all the threads here have the right "copy" pheromones.
          Dreadful.

          Originally Posted by Jeremey View Post

          Is there any other places (besides the bid sites) that are good to advertise or contribute to that are worth checking out? I'd rather it not be the case, but circumstances have put me in a position where this is the only source of income I have for the time being, though I feel like I'm making some steady progress.
          This collection of links by Joe might help you:

          http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...ml#post6836743

          And put links to your Warriors for Hire posts in your sig.

          One of the best pieces of advice I've received on self-marketing is to think of yourself as your own client. For example, if you had a graphic designer who's just turned freelancer approach you for marketing consulting, what would you tell them? Now apply that to yourself.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jeremey
            Originally Posted by Andrew Gould View Post


            This collection of links by Joe might help you:

            http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...ml#post6836743

            And put links to your Warriors for Hire posts in your sig.

            One of the best pieces of advice I've received on self-marketing is to think of yourself as your own client. For example, if you had a graphic designer who's just turned freelancer approach you for marketing consulting, what would you tell them? Now apply that to yourself.
            Wow, thanks Andrew and Joe..That's quite a comprehensive list and it will keep me reading for a while. I have my website in my sig but you're right, the WFH ad makes much more sense.
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  • ...Andrew it might be the OP prefers to go with the herd. Or maybe all the threads here have the right "copy" pheromones.


    Steve
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