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11 years ago

You should enroll in this...

https://gracieuniversity.com/Course....KhyYHaKp8qsQ==

Learn some basic BJJ. Gracie Breakdowns on YouTube are really cool too.

I'd also watch the first UFC. Royce Gracie won with BJJ, and was probably the smallest (weight) fighter in the competition.

Here's a video of him submitting a massive sumo wrestler:

Royce Gracie vs Akebono - YouTube

I was sent this the other day...

Special Forces - Destruction Moves

No idea how it's doing, but I like the copy. Especially when he goes into detail about all his injuries.

And I think this guy's quite successful...

CQC Close Quarters Combat Self Defense Training | CQB Close Quarter Battle

Plus this...

Close Combat Training | Self Defense | Martial Arts Training | Captain Chris

Not the same as BJJ, but you might get some cool copy ideas. Also, BJJ is huge now because of the UFC. So the market might be quite crowded. You need to come up with something super unique.

Here's one example:

Kimura Trap System - The Ultimate Kimura Submission Series For MMA And BJJ That Will Stop Wrestlers With The Kimura Lock

From what I can tell this is a whole product based on multiple variations of a single submission. This would be for high-level guys.

Colm

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Raydal

11 years ago

Google "Lloyd Irvin". He is one of Dan Kennedy's inner
circle members and about the biggest and most successful
marketer in that field.

-Ray Edwards

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Robin Blinds

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Raydal

Google "Lloyd Irvin".

I did and it seems that two students of Master Lloyd Irvin have been accused of raping a 20 yr old female who also trained at the Lloyd Irvin Martial Arts school.
News Report

And now its also being reported that Master Lloyd Irvin was allegedly involved in a gang rape of a 17 yr old female
Decency: Real Issue In Rape Trial - Daily Press

Crazy stuff.

I cant wait to see how Lloyd Irvin uses his marketing skills to spin his way out of this situation

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Rezbi

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Robin Blinds

I did and it seems that two students of Master Lloyd Irvin have been accused of raping a 20 yr old female who also trained at the Lloyd Irvin Martial Arts school.
News Report

And now its also being reported that Master Lloyd Irvin was allegedly involved in a gang rape of a 17 yr old female
Decency: Real Issue In Rape Trial - Daily Press

Crazy stuff.

I cant wait to see how Lloyd Irvin uses his marketing skills to spin his way out of this situation

I misread that report. And maybe you did, too.

It's not being reported. It was reported.

It's dated April 25, 1990.

Not making excuses for anyone, but your post makes it sound current.

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Mario Castelli

10 years ago

Not sure why it has anything to do with his marketing...

But the story about his two students raping a girl in a parking lot IS current. As in, happened in 2013, and there is video evidence of it.

But surely, a teacher can't be responsible for everything their students do on their own time. That certainly isn't fair.

(Btw, the female victim is a high-level BJJ competitor herself.)

Still, Lloyd Irvin is a brilliant marketer. The actions of a few students in a high-testosterone sport shouldn't take away from the fact that he's the guy to study here.

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Rezbi

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Mario Castelli

Not sure why it has anything to do with his marketing...

But the story about his two students raping a girl in a parking lot IS current. As in, happened in 2013, and there is video evidence of it.

But surely, a teacher can't be responsible for everything their students do on their own time. That certainly isn't fair.

(Btw, the female victim is a high-level BJJ competitor herself.)

Still, Lloyd Irvin is a brilliant marketer. The actions of a few students in a high-testosterone sport shouldn't take away from the fact that he's the guy to study here.

Yes, you're right, it has nothing to do with marketing so I have no idea why he posted it.

Nor does Lloyd Irvin's students being involved in rape have anything to do with Lloyd Irvin.

But the story I'm referring to is the second one. It's definitely not current.

And now its also being reported that Master Lloyd Irvin was allegedly involved in a gang rape of a 17 yr old female
Decency: Real Issue In Rape Trial - Daily Press

Decency: Real Issue In Rape Trial

JIM SPENCER

April 25, 1990|By JIM SPENCER Columnist

I'm glad I wasn't on the jury that had to decide whether Terrence Gatling and Lloyd Irvin Jr. were guilty of gang-raping a 17-year-old Hampton University freshman

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Robin Blinds 10 years ago

Yes, he is a great marketer.
I hope he really didn't do this Lloyd Irvin purchases LloydIrvinRape.com, turns it into a marketing site - Bloody Elbow

Originally Posted by Rezbi

It's not being reported. It was reported.

It's dated April 25, 1990.

Im not sure that its been confirmed that it is the same Lloyd E. Irvin Jr. But since they attended the same school and are of same age, it is assumed they are one in the same.
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Andrew Gould

11 years ago

There are some useful links in this thread:

http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...-magazine.html

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Daniel Scott

11 years ago

Good god, Colm. Is there anything you don't know about?

-Daniel

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colmodwyer 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Scott

Good god, Colm. Is there anything you don't know about?

-Daniel

How to make love to a beautiful woman. My girlfriend is disgusted with me.

Also, Mark Ford (aka Michael Masterson) used to have copy cubs train BJJ to weed out folk who weren't competitive. So the story goes, anyway. So one of my buddies who trained with Ford (fighting and copywriting) is big into BJJ.

Colm
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NikNikAndCauliflower

11 years ago

Jordon Wallace (trained under Lloyd Irvin)
Under 170lb Grappling Coach

Buchecha
This is it, The Final Run!!

Buchecha (the instructor) just had a great showing against a legend of the sport (Roger Gracie) and I think that helped sales more than anything, but they sold 246 copies of the DVDs at $147 (I think) in a day.

Lloyd Irvin sites:
Free Grappling Sponsorship CD | Get My Six Figure Sponsorships CD
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Made Easy with Lloyd Irvin, Mike Fowler and JT
FREE Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Mixed Martial Arts MD,DC,VA|MMA BJJ Thai Boxing Training Classes|Submission Wrestling|Grappling Classes in Maryland Virginia & Washington DC

Jason Scully runs a membership site which looks amazing
The Grapplers Guide |

David Avellan
Kimura Trap System - The Ultimate Kimura Submission Series For MMA And BJJ That Will Stop Wrestlers With The Kimura Lock
David Avellan - Watch MMA, MMA Scraps, and Learn Martial Arts

Steven Whitter (BJJ 40+)
40 Plus BJJ - Boards | WordPress

And, of course, Matt Furey, who is well-known by BJJers (and widely hated on, lol) and is in a slightly different space (some of his stuff is anti-BJJ or 'how to defeat jiu-jitsu')

Matt Furey - Zen Master of the Internet

-Nick

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NikNikAndCauliflower

11 years ago

This site isn't much unless you sign up, but Eddie Bravo at Home | 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu is very interesting.

He's carved out a cult-like following amongst people rejecting the traditional gi BJJ (the uniform they wear, like Karate pyjamas) and he does 100% No-Gi (typically rash guard and shorts, you're not allowed to grab the uniform in No-Gi).

His followers are the most intense and loyal of any in BJJ, they throw up the '10' gang sign in podium photos, and they have managed to survive the constant abuse and belittling from a lot of traditionalists in BJJ (largely Brazilians).

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NikNikAndCauliflower

11 years ago

One last thing, the number 1 forum is MMA news, fighter profiles and events - they have sub-forums for BJJ too.

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BrandonLee

11 years ago

Thanks for all of the links and feedback guys. It has given me a few good bits to work with.

Lloyd seems to be the big dog in the marketing department of that world to be sure. The guy I'm working with is actually in Lloyd's mastermind for gym owners, and he's also going to be at his four day long Internet Marketing event from tomorrow till sunday.

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DigitalCopyWriter

10 years ago

Check what John Carlton wrote in this niche. His self-defense promotions are legendary. One is based on your own appeal - small guy takes big, violent, neo-nazi group.

Razvan

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