Copywriting social network / member site

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People say about buying x book on copywriting or get x pdf on it - but isn't the best way to learn to copy write to actually practice and refine what you've written getting critiques on it?

What I think would be something great, if it doesn't already exist, is some kind of social network/member site (probably paid) where you can ....
  1. Read material on various aspects/techniques on copy writing "the lesson"
  2. Get a copy writing exercise to do after on what you've learnt to practise with feedback from the community on possible improvements for maximum effect

If this exists I would be very very interested in signing up to it - I'm not interested in just reading a book - I want to be able to practice and get quality feedback so I can refine and practice everything I've learnt with a community of like-minded individuals.

What do you think? What's your opinion on something like this?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonwebb
    Its pretty what this sub forum is. Except people here are fairly easy to aggravate ( or they want you to pay)

    Ether way I would b down to join such a group. I wouldn't want to run one but ud def participate
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  • Profile picture of the author MadHattie123
    Originally Posted by m30jake View Post

    What I think would be something great, if it doesn't already exist, is some kind of social network/member site (probably paid) where you can ....
    1. Read material on various aspects/techniques on copy writing "the lesson"
    2. Get a copy writing exercise to do after on what you've learnt to practise with feedback from the community on possible improvements for maximum effect
    If this exists I would be very very interested in signing up to it
    This does exist. One of them is awaionline.com. There are probably others I don't know about.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Cohen
      The problem with "a community of like-minded individuals" is that each one will have a different opinion. Not a good way to learn.

      Work with a mentor who will structure your learning, answer your questions, and critique you work.

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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Pescetti
        Originally Posted by Alex Cohen View Post

        The problem with "a community of like-minded individuals" is that each one will have a different opinion. Not a good way to learn.

        Work with a mentor who will structure your learning, answer your questions, and critique you work.

        Alex
        Wrong.

        You take what resonates - whether it's from a guru or everyday people. That's something a lot of marketers don't get. Everyone wants to believe there's an absolute science to success, but the reality is, there are more subjective variables than any of us can possibly meet or overcome. Just because something worked for one person, it doesn't mean it'll work for everyone. That's just reality. So from that perspective, everything is just one person's opinion.

        I've learned more from interacting with the journey-people in the trenches than I ever have from a supposed mentor or guru.

        "Professional information providers" all have their own shticks, including on this nifty sub-forum.

        My wife is doing the B-School by Marie Forleo program... and man, I'm embarrassed for her (Marie that is.) Some of the exercises aren't just bad, they make the marketing process way more convoluted than it has to be.

        I've personally been to at least two dozen seminars and invested over $10,000 (edit: sorry, $100,000) in various courses since 2005 - from marketing to copywriting to mindset. And while I learned something from all of them, I discovered more from talking with the other participants (at live seminars) or coming up with my own approaches (as opposed to following the likes of John Carlton or Dan Kennedy.)

        In fact...

        Just by observing what other people (who are simply trying to make a buck) in marketing do, I made high six figures before I ever knew the names of the techniques I used. I still don't care about following a cookie-cut philosophy or tried-and-true formula.

        That being said...

        Would the exact format the OP suggested work. Maybe not. There does need to be structure in that type of environment, but I dig the idea. It's something that could flesh out with the right guidance. Being surrounded by opinions is a good thing. It helps you tune up your own intuition and add the tools to your belt that work for you.

        Mark
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        • Profile picture of the author Alex Cohen
          Originally Posted by Mark Pescetti View Post

          Wrong.

          You take what resonates - whether it's from a guru or everyday people. That's something a lot of marketers don't get. Everyone wants to believe there's an absolute science to success, but the reality is, there are more subjective variables than any of us can possibly meet or overcome. Just because something worked for one person, it doesn't mean it'll work for everyone. That's just reality. So from that perspective, everything is just one person's opinion.

          I've learned more from interacting with the journey-people in the trenches than I ever have from a supposed mentor or guru.

          "Professional information providers" all have their own shticks, including on this nifty sub-forum.

          My wife is doing the B-School by Marie Forleo program... and man, I'm embarrassed for her (Marie that is.) Some of the exercises aren't just bad, they make the marketing process way more convoluted than it has to be.

          I've personally been to at least two dozen seminars and invested over $10,000 in various courses since 2005 - from marketing to copywriting to mindset. And while I learned something from all of them, I discovered more from talking with the other participants (at live seminars) or coming up with my own approaches (as opposed to following the likes of John Carlton or Dan Kennedy.)

          In fact...

          Just by observing what other people (who are simply trying to make a buck) in marketing do, I made high six figures before I ever knew the names of the techniques I used. I still don't care about following a cookie-cut philosophy or tried-and-true formula.

          That being said...

          Would the exact format the OP suggested work. Maybe not. There does need to be structure in that type of environment, but I dig the idea. It's something that could flesh out with the right guidance. Being surrounded by opinions is a good thing. It helps you tune up your own intuition and add the tools to your belt that work for you.

          Mark
          Most people make out better learning from someone who has "been there" and has the ability to teach.

          Alex
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      • Profile picture of the author Brent Schmidt
        Originally Posted by Alex Cohen View Post

        The problem with "a community of like-minded individuals" is that each one will have a different opinion. Not a good way to learn.

        Work with a mentor who will structure your learning, answer your questions, and critique you work.

        Alex
        Well,
        Think and grow rick says otherwise.
        I would be down to join such a group as well.
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      • Profile picture of the author m30jake
        Originally Posted by Alex Cohen View Post

        The problem with "a community of like-minded individuals" is that each one will have a different opinion. Not a good way to learn.

        Work with a mentor who will structure your learning, answer your questions, and critique you work.

        Alex

        Alex, the idea would be to have structured lessons on each aspect of copywriting and the opinions would be based on that sole aspect not on all of it as a whole. Therefore the learning would be structured in to a course with lessons and practise with community responses to make sure you've nailed that aspect on copywriting before you move on to the next.
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