Please Appraise My Sales Page (Harsh/Honest Is Better!)

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Hello! This is Alvin, and after asking for opinions of highly esteemed WF users, I have edited and improved my sales page accordingly, and am now here to kindly ask for some copywriting advice on my current sales page

Here's my page
Flexible Fat Burn

Many thanks:p
#appraise #harsh or honest #page #sales
  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Your header image takes up way too much space. Your headline is weak. So are your sub headers. This for example:

    "What we need is a weight loss plan to help us lose weight despite our busy schedule."

    There's no "we" about anything here. Hopefully you're addressing targeted visitors where the pronoun you want is YOU.

    Much of the language is awkward. Perhaps English isn't your first language. Good effort but if you want this pup to hunt you need to get a pro in to either dramatically revise this or start over. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      Your header image takes up way too much space. Your headline is weak. So are your sub headers. This for example:

      "What we need is a weight loss plan to help us lose weight despite our busy schedule."

      There's no "we" about anything here. Hopefully you're addressing targeted visitors where the pronoun you want is YOU.

      Much of the language is awkward. Perhaps English isn't your first language. Good effort but if you want this pup to hunt you need to get a pro in to either dramatically revise this or start over. Good luck.
      Hey, thanks for your input !

      I will reduce the header space ASAP and change my headlines and subheaders as well. I will get back again when I've completed it within a few hours!
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    • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      Your header image takes up way too much space. Your headline is weak. So are your sub headers. This for example:

      "What we need is a weight loss plan to help us lose weight despite our busy schedule."

      There's no "we" about anything here. Hopefully you're addressing targeted visitors where the pronoun you want is YOU.

      Much of the language is awkward. Perhaps English isn't your first language. Good effort but if you want this pup to hunt you need to get a pro in to either dramatically revise this or start over. Good luck.
      Alright! I removed the header, changed the headline and subheaders according to what mentioned. (WIIFM principle)

      I changed it to 'you' as much as possible as well. Improved some of the careless grammar mistake I made.

      What do you think?

      Thanks so much for your pointer!
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  • Profile picture of the author BackLinkingNinja
    I agree with Travlinguy's pointe above...

    A really good start, but if it were me (just my opinion)...

    1. Reduce the height of the header graphic to atleast half what it is.

    2. On your sales video, I'd end with a stronger call to action 'Click The Link Now To Start Burning That Fat' and include a down arrow.

    3. I'd add a buy/access button below the video (as well as in multiple spots), just in case someone wants to proceed after watching the video.

    4. The photos with the white boxed out heads I find distracting, why not consider 'blurring/pixelating' the other peoples' heads?

    5. The text paragraphs are too long. You convey the story, but I'd suggest making the blocks of text smaller and more readible. Try occasionally bolding some key points in the paragraphs for those people who 'skim' read.

    6. Stronger more customer focused sub-headlines. Think 'WIIFM' - What's In It For Me.. from the readers perspective.

    7. At the end with your signature, personally I'd use a friendlier (less cool) looking personal sign-off photo and include a P.S. statement below re-emphasising the key points - for those that skim to the end.

    8. Exit Redirect - good to see you've got one, but it seems to just repeat the page. Why not offer a 'downsell', say remove one aspect of the offer and downgrade 'Wait Before You Go A Special Discount' to $19.95 a month or even a third $9.95 (but in the follow-up email series then re-upsell to the full plan).

    9. Finally, to further reduce the risk at the end of your exits you could offer to give away a 'One Month $1 Trial' membership for $1, and then have the payment back up to full price at 30 days and thereafter.

    Once you have traffic, you've only really got one chance as squeezing them into your sales funnel :-)

    10. If you don't want to spend out cash initially on a copywriter, why not get someone else to have a read through and help smooth out the English slightly.

    11. No doubt you have a razor sharp auto-responder series following this up and offering similar products.

    12. You've probably already contacted other key active product owners in your niche on ClickBank, letting them know about the launch (and giving them some swipes) and offering a 'deal' as a bonus on their download pages, or a reciprocal banner ad on your download page?

    13, Hopefully you'll also have an affiliates/JV page that offers swipes and sample banner ads...

    Good job on making a start - you're already ahead of 90% the fact you have taken action. Good luck...
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    • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
      Originally Posted by BackLinkingNinja View Post

      I agree with Travlinguy's pointe above...

      A really good start, but if it were me (just my opinion)...

      1. Reduce the height of the header graphic to atleast half what it is.

      2. On your sales video, I'd end with a stronger call to action 'Click The Link Now To Start Burning That Fat' and include a down arrow.

      3. I'd add a buy/access button below the video (as well as in multiple spots), just in case someone wants to proceed after watching the video.

      4. The photos with the white boxed out heads I find distracting, why not consider 'blurring/pixelating' the other peoples' heads?

      5. The text paragraphs are too long. You convey the story, but I'd suggest making the blocks of text smaller and more readible. Try occasionally bolding some key points in the paragraphs for those people who 'skim' read.

      6. Stronger more customer focused sub-headlines. Think 'WIIFM' - What's In It For Me.. from the readers perspective.

      7. At the end with your signature, personally I'd use a friendlier (less cool) looking personal sign-off photo and include a P.S. statement below re-emphasising the key points - for those that skim to the end.

      8. Exit Redirect - good to see you've got one, but it seems to just repeat the page. Why not offer a 'downsell', say remove one aspect of the offer and downgrade 'Wait Before You Go A Special Discount' to $19.95 a month or even a third $9.95 (but in the follow-up email series then re-upsell to the full plan).

      9. Finally, to further reduce the risk at the end of your exits you could offer to give away a 'One Month $1 Trial' membership for $1, and then have the payment back up to full price at 30 days and thereafter.

      Once you have traffic, you've only really got one chance as squeezing them into your sales funnel :-)

      10. If you don't want to spend out cash initially on a copywriter, why not get someone else to have a read through and help smooth out the English slightly.

      11. No doubt you have a razor sharp auto-responder series following this up and offering similar products.

      12. You've probably already contacted other key active product owners in your niche on ClickBank, letting them know about the launch (and giving them some swipes) and offering a 'deal' as a bonus on their download pages, or a reciprocal banner ad on your download page?

      13, Hopefully you'll also have an affiliates/JV page that offers swipes and sample banner ads...

      Good job on making a start - you're already ahead of 90% the fact you have taken action. Good luck...
      1) Reduced!
      2) It's not an entire sales video.. so I decided it will be best not to?
      3) Added the buttons
      4) I don't know how to do that with paint...
      5) Reduced the length of most paragraphs.
      6) WIIFM done! (thanks)
      7) Edited the photo:p
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      • Profile picture of the author Alex Cohen
        4. The photos with the white boxed out heads I find distracting, why not consider 'blurring/pixelating' the other peoples' heads?
        Originally Posted by alvinchua91 View Post

        4) I don't know how to do that with paint...
        There's a free image manipulation program called GIMP you can use for that purpose. It also has many other powerful features:

        GIMP - The GNU Image Manipulation Program

        Alex
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        • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
          Originally Posted by Alex Cohen View Post

          There's a free image manipulation program called GIMP you can use for that purpose. It also has many other powerful features:

          GIMP - The GNU Image Manipulation Program

          Alex
          Thanks Alex!

          I downloaded it, very useful.. I will surely make use of it for future image editing. I have decided to get rid of the pictures on my sales page though, they don't seem to add extra value anyway
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  • Profile picture of the author copyassassin
    Alvin,

    Your copy is suffering from a lack of a specific target, hook, and USP.

    Your copy will increase A LOT if you do the following:
    • Write down WHAT your target looks like
    • What is the naggy problem their added weight is causing your target?
    • Who are our targets heros?
    • Who are your targets enemies?
    • What irrational biases does your target have?
    • What offer would be unqiue to them?

    I'd think about that for a bit.

    Honestly, writing copy for your own products is really tough.

    I'm doing it right now for a 5 day hawaiian seminar I'm doing and I'm struggling.

    Why?

    Product owners "see the leaves".

    You need somebody to help you "see the forest"

    Your copy isn't bad, it just needs somebody to kick its ass.

    Go hire somebody.

    Adam

    p.s. I noticed you are Asian. If your target is also asian, perhaps your angle could be "the fat buring furance of an asian male is different, and requires a different type of diet" that might work. That is a good about dieting based on your blood type. that did well.
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    • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
      Originally Posted by copyassassin View Post

      Alvin,

      Your copy is suffering from a lack of a specific target, hook, and USP.

      Your copy will increase A LOT if you do the following:
      • Write down WHAT your target looks like
      • What is the naggy problem their added weight is causing your target?
      • Who are our targets heros?
      • Who are your targets enemies?
      • What irrational biases does your target have?
      • What offer would be unqiue to them?

      I'd think about that for a bit.

      Honestly, writing copy for your own products is really tough.

      I'm doing it right now for a 5 day hawaiian seminar I'm doing and I'm struggling.

      Why?

      Product owners "see the leaves".

      You need somebody to help you "see the forest"

      Your copy isn't bad, it just needs somebody to kick its ass.

      Go hire somebody.

      Adam

      p.s. I noticed you are Asian. If your target is also asian, perhaps your angle could be "the fat buring furance of an asian male is different, and requires a different type of diet" that might work. That is a good about dieting based on your blood type. that did well.

      Hi Adam,

      Thanks for your feedback! I tried improving the subheadlines especially, and removed unnecessary ramblings in the sales copy.

      My target need not necessarily be Asian; it works for people of all races.

      Alvin
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  • Rule 1 - make the product as good as it can be

    Rule 2 - chances of anyone actually using a "diet" product is remote

    Rule 3 - you still have to apply Rule 2 to Rule 1


    So ironically the secret to a weight loss products' success.

    Is to make sure it works.

    And the copy is all about proving that it does.


    Steve


    P.S. Yes, the logic is a bit bizarre. Even although the vast majority of people won't use your product. They'll happily buy it if they "know" it works.
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  • Profile picture of the author RichBeck
    I would remove the header..... It wastes precious real estate above the fold...

    It duplicates the video "start" image directly below...

    As a potential customer, I don't arrive at the page.... Immediately wonder.....

    What is the name of this product? I must know the name of the product! What is it?

    Instead, I get to the page....

    I immediately wonder WIIFM.....

    Take Care,

    Rich Beck BCIP, MCSD, MCIS
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    • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
      Originally Posted by RichBeck View Post

      I would remove the header..... It wastes precious real estate above the fold...

      It duplicates the video "start" image directly below...

      As a potential customer, I don't arrive at the page.... Immediately wonder.....

      What is the name of this product? I must know the name of the product! What is it?

      Instead, I get to the page....

      I immediately wonder WIIFM.....

      Take Care,

      Rich Beck BCIP, MCSD, MCIS

      I was thinking that too, but wasn't sure. Alright, I shall get rid of it temporarily and see if it gives me better results. Thanks Rich.
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    • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
      Originally Posted by RichBeck View Post

      I would remove the header..... It wastes precious real estate above the fold...

      It duplicates the video "start" image directly below...

      As a potential customer, I don't arrive at the page.... Immediately wonder.....

      What is the name of this product? I must know the name of the product! What is it?

      Instead, I get to the page....

      I immediately wonder WIIFM.....

      Take Care,

      Rich Beck BCIP, MCSD, MCIS
      Yup! I also edited some sub headlines to help consumers better understand WIIFM. Should work better now?

      Thanks again:p
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      • Profile picture of the author RichBeck
        Originally Posted by alvinchua91 View Post

        Yup! I also edited some sub headlines to help consumers better understand WIIFM. Should work better now?

        Thanks again:p
        Alvin,

        I'm glad you removed the header....

        I haven't had a chance to dig into the WIIFM changes....

        But, I did watch the video.... Here is how I would change it....

        1. Delete the first two seconds of the intro.
        2. After the intro, add a new slide; show a picture and introduce yourself.

        Example: "Hi, Alvin Chua here. <pause>
        <show next frame> Do you want to lose weight.....

        Why remove the first two seconds of the video?

        It slows things down..... without adding any value.

        Why add an intro?

        People buy from people they know and like....

        You need to introduce yourself... Show them your smiling face...

        You are a real person.... Not some voice over actor reading a script for a faceless Marketer.

        Remember, you are selling yourself and your product.

        All The Best,

        Rich Beck BCIP, MCSD, MCIS
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        • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
          Originally Posted by RichBeck View Post

          Alvin,
          1. Delete the first two seconds of the intro.
          2. After the intro, add a new slide; show a picture and introduce yourself.

          Example: "Hi, Alvin Chua here. <pause>
          <show next frame> Do you want to lose weight.....

          You need to introduce yourself... Show them your smiling face...

          You are a real person.... Not some voice over actor reading a script for a faceless Marketer.
          Thanks Rich! Finally got the video up and running on my website Flexible Fat Burn once again.

          Revamped the entire thing, with pictures of myself, and no more 'cinematic video intro'.

          Looking forward to the improved conversions!
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  • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
    I tried as much as possible to do the WIIFM formula, how else can I improve my script?
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    • Profile picture of the author BurtL
      Originally Posted by alvinchua91 View Post

      I tried as much as possible to do the WIIFM formula, how else can I improve my script?
      I thought it was interesting that one headline says "This is not going to be about me, it's going to be about YOU."

      Then 2 headlines later you say on the same screen, "
      2 years ago I was, like you, chubby and overweight!" then from that point on you go on about telling your story for about 50% of the copy.

      The health/fitness industry is results driven, you need more proof that it works from other people not just you.
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      • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
        Originally Posted by Screen Text View Post

        I thought it was interesting that one headline says "This is not going to be about me, it's going to be about YOU."

        Then 2 headlines later you say on the same screen, "
        2 years ago I was, like you, chubby and overweight!" then from that point on you go on about telling your story for about 50% of the copy.

        The health/fitness industry is results driven, you need more proof that it works from other people not just you.
        Hi, thanks for your feedback! I have edited my copy accordingly :p

        I am currently working on getting testimonials
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  • Profile picture of the author mialove
    A few things:

    When i see your pic, where you supposed to be fat, i see just a normal guy. I think it will be better if you will find a pic where you looks fatter , other way, your target market can feel "it will not help me, he never been that fat".

    And...please don't get offended, but i think that copyassassin idea about Asian target, can work better.
    You have a strong accent, and for many it can be a big turn off. (I also have an accent and because of that, i use native speakers, to read the text).
    Well, i can be wrong, but i would test 2 versions and see whats convert better.
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    • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
      Originally Posted by mialove View Post

      A few things:

      When i see your pic, where you supposed to be fat, i see just a normal guy. I think it will be better if you will find a pic where you looks fatter , other way, your target market can feel "it will not help me, he never been that fat".

      And...please don't get offended, but i think that copyassassin idea about Asian target, can work better.
      You have a strong accent, and for many it can be a big turn off. (I also have an accent and because of that, i use native speakers, to read the text).
      Well, i can be wrong, but i would test 2 versions and see whats convert better.

      Thanks Mia!

      Okay, I didn't really have pictures of myself shirtless when I was 'fatter', so.. Let me try to find (:

      Yes, I am open to suggestions. I have already deleted that video. In fact before you typed that message, I was already looking for people to create a sales video for me.

      Thanks for your help
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  • Profile picture of the author scrofford
    I don't believe the headline and sub-headline. That's as far as I got.
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    • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
      Originally Posted by scrofford View Post

      I don't believe the headline and sub-headline. That's as far as I got.
      I'm sorry it didn't work out for you. But that's really the truth in the program I have come up with, so I should leave it there
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      • Profile picture of the author scrofford
        Originally Posted by alvinchua91 View Post

        I'm sorry it didn't work out for you. But that's really the truth in the program I have come up with, so I should leave it there
        Well you can do that, but if it's not believable, you aren't going to have many conversions, and I bet I'm not the only one who doesn't believe it. Sounds like a bunch of hype.

        There's nothing new under the sun about fat loss. There's no real secrets. There's only stuff some people don't know about yet.

        I think it's more the sub-headline that makes me not believe what you are saying. "Lose weight eating all your favorite foods and not going to the gym?" Most people won't believe that, especially with the picture of the cut dude you have pasted there near the headline and sub.

        In any case, just because it's the truth about the program you came up with, doesn't mean it's worded right. You really should play with your headline and sub-headline.
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  • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
    How else can I improve? Should I add in a professionally done video? Or will a sales script be sufficient?
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  • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
    I improved the script once again, how does it look? Better?
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    • Profile picture of the author charlesanthony
      Originally Posted by alvinchua91 View Post

      I improved the script once again, how does it look? Better?
      Instead of using too much bold words/sentences, why don't you use H1, H2, H3, H4 etc tags for the heading of each paragraph?
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  • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
    I have read up a lot more on copywriting and edited it drastically.. How does it look now?
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  • Profile picture of the author scrofford
    This is the beginning of your copy:

    From Alvin:

    This is me!

    PS. Let me tell you a secret; most fitness magazines are squeezing you dry of your money without giving you results. STOP believing what they are telling you!

    If you truly want to start seeing visible results, you need to understand right now that 99% of what these magazines are saying are lies. If you want to finally succeed, listen carefully.

    Will you like to get six pack abs like mine? I managed to lose 25.4 pounds in just 2 months.

    I’m here to tell you that YOU can lose as much weight as I did. I’m here to show you how.

    Will you rather starve yourself OR eat donuts/cheesecakes/fries to lose weight?



    First off, Alvin who? And what makes you an authority about all of this? Why would I want to read beyond knowing you are "Alvin?" Do you have any credentials? Who are you? Why should I believe you?

    Second, you need to change "will" to "would." "Would" is proper English.

    Third, why wouldn't I believe a magazine over what you say? They are squeezing me dry of my money? I would find another way to open this letter. It's kind of dry and boring.

    "Will you rather starve yourself OR eat donuts/cheesecakes/fries to lose weight?" - Nobody is going to believe they can eat donuts/cheesecake/fries and lose weight. Also, it's "cheesecake" not "cheesecakes."

    This is as far as I got. Hopefully others here that have more experience can put in a better input.
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    • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
      Originally Posted by scrofford View Post

      This is the beginning of your copy:

      From Alvin:

      This is me!

      PS. Let me tell you a secret; most fitness magazines are squeezing you dry of your money without giving you results. STOP believing what they are telling you!

      If you truly want to start seeing visible results, you need to understand right now that 99% of what these magazines are saying are lies. If you want to finally succeed, listen carefully.

      Will you like to get six pack abs like mine? I managed to lose 25.4 pounds in just 2 months.

      I'm here to tell you that YOU can lose as much weight as I did. I'm here to show you how.

      Will you rather starve yourself OR eat donuts/cheesecakes/fries to lose weight?



      First off, Alvin who? And what makes you an authority about all of this? Why would I want to read beyond knowing you are "Alvin?" Do you have any credentials? Who are you? Why should I believe you?

      Second, you need to change "will" to "would." "Would" is proper English.

      Third, why wouldn't I believe a magazine over what you say? They are squeezing me dry of my money? I would find another way to open this letter. It's kind of dry and boring.

      "Will you rather starve yourself OR eat donuts/cheesecakes/fries to lose weight?" - Nobody is going to believe they can eat donuts/cheesecake/fries and lose weight. Also, it's "cheesecake" not "cheesecakes."

      This is as far as I got. Hopefully others here that have more experience can put in a better input.
      I have changed will to would, cheesecakes to cheesecake.

      It's true that the program really allows you to eat foods that you are 'normally' told not to eat. I'm not lying, so why can't I put that there?

      Unless you mean to paraphrase it, in which case, how do I do so? What's a quick example?
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      • Profile picture of the author scrofford
        Originally Posted by alvinchua91 View Post

        I have changed will to would, cheesecakes to cheesecake.

        It's true that the program really allows you to eat foods that you are 'normally' told not to eat. I'm not lying, so why can't I put that there?

        Unless you mean to paraphrase it, in which case, how do I do so? What's a quick example?
        You can put anything you want. It's just not believable that's all. Put yourself in your customer's shoes. If you came to your site and saw that, would you believe it or click away thinking the statement was full of crap?
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  • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
    I edited it once again
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  • Profile picture of the author Igor Fridrihs
    Hey, Alvin

    You do not sell anything from this page. Just some notes for you:

    1. Start with your hook: This can be a solution to loose weight, a storyline, proof, the offer, bonuses, or all of the above. It’s the “Big Promise” that ONLY YOU can make. You’ll use your hook in the headline, sub-headline, and opening paragraph.

    2. Show the proof: This can be testimonials, a success story, third-party statistics, or a demonstration of your product.

    3. Explain what they get: Introduce your product and list all the benefits with bullet points.

    4. Reveal the price: explain why it’s such a good deal by comparing with alternatives. Explain how it can save them time and/or make their life easier.

    5. Add some bonuses: You can create your own or use another PLR product that complements the offer.

    6. Minimize the risk: close the deal by offering a crazy guarantee, like double your money back.

    7. Ask for the order: this is where you can add scarcity and recap the offer, price, and guarantee.
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    • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
      Originally Posted by Servicy View Post

      Hey, Alvin

      You do not sell anything from this page. Just some notes for you:

      1. Start with your hook: This can be a solution to loose weight, a storyline, proof, the offer, bonuses, or all of the above. It's the "Big Promise" that ONLY YOU can make. You'll use your hook in the headline, sub-headline, and opening paragraph.

      2. Show the proof: This can be testimonials, a success story, third-party statistics, or a demonstration of your product.

      3. Explain what they get: Introduce your product and list all the benefits with bullet points.

      4. Reveal the price: explain why it's such a good deal by comparing with alternatives. Explain how it can save them time and/or make their life easier.

      5. Add some bonuses: You can create your own or use another PLR product that complements the offer.

      6. Minimize the risk: close the deal by offering a crazy guarantee, like double your money back.

      7. Ask for the order: this is where you can add scarcity and recap the offer, price, and guarantee.
      I'm not quite sure if you read my page...

      I will add in point 4 (comparing pricing)..

      I am intending to add in 5 so yeah

      The rest I believe I more or less have them but of course I'm still going to work on them.

      Thanks for your insight
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  • Profile picture of the author elmo033057
    Alvin, just remember that many entrepreneur's/copywriter's edit and re-edit their material over and over again.

    Dan Kennedy just recently wrote in one of his newsletters that he knows a man that rewrites his stuff almost every night.

    That would seem kinda drastic to me, but I'm still a novice at this stuff myself, so what do I know? From what I have read here, and other places, as I study copywriting, if I have heard one thing over and over again it is:
    TEST, TEST, TEST and TEST, and of course, revise as needed.

    Good Start my Friend!
    God Bless,
    ELMO
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  • Hi there

    Here's a few thoughts...

    No real benefit in the headline...ok a bit of curiousity but why should I read on?

    this below is more like a headline

    If you want a hot body, while eating your FAVORITE foods and not travelling to the gym, then THIS will be the most life-changing message you will ever read.


    Lose the tons of fats...make it a ton of fat

    Look at the amount of time you use "I" in the subheads.

    you need to change them to "you's"

    product is presented far to late in the copy
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    • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
      Originally Posted by Quality Copywriter View Post

      Hi there

      Here's a few thoughts...

      No real benefit in the headline...ok a bit of curiousity but why should I read on?

      this below is more like a headline

      If you want a hot body, while eating your FAVORITE foods and not travelling to the gym, then THIS will be the most life-changing message you will ever read.


      Lose the tons of fats...make it a ton of fat

      Look at the amount of time you use "I" in the subheads.

      you need to change them to "you's"

      product is presented far to late in the copy
      I changed my headline already

      Changed to - a ton of fat

      Working on changing to 'you's

      When should I present my product then?

      Thanks :p
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Warriors
    Here are a few basic tips:


    1. Change "astonishing" to something more evocative, like "jaw-dropping" or even "mind-boggling." "Astonishing" just doesn't seem like a good word to attach to "conspiracy." It has too many positive connotations; when you speak of a conspiracy, you're trying to hit the fear trigger, and "astonishing" is hitting moreso on the "wow that's so amazing" trigger. Make it more consistent.


    2. The "conspiracy... that's making you fat" phrasing just sounds a little amateurish in general. I'd polish it a little.


    3. Try using a before and after photo instead of just a photo of you being thin. You need to pay close attention to which niche you're targeting. If you're targeting the muscle and supplements niche, you might just go with a single picture that shows your six pack and other muscles. If you're targeting the weight loss niche, you want to include a "before" picture where you looked fat. I see you use a before and after photo halfway down the page, maybe use that at the top instead of the just the 'after' picture.


    4. There's just a general inconsistency in the tone and style of the letter that's hard to describe. You say "this is the most life changing letter you'll ever read," but then the letter just looks like the most normal, standard internet marketing template, and the copy is totally standard too. To really make the "life changing" angle work, you need to actually have a buildup, something to make the claim look like it has substance. And more importantly, you need to indicate HOW you're going to change their life.


    5. Develop the section underneath the headline "Would you rather starve yourself OR eat donuts/cheesecake/fries to lose weight?" a little more. This is good stuff but you need to bring it to life more... You need to talk a little about that "conspiracy" you were alluding to earlier. You need to make it more juicy, emotionally resonant.


    6. In general, the close needs to be stronger.

    Hope that helped man. PM me if you want more detailed tips!
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    • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
      Originally Posted by The Copy Warriors View Post

      Here are a few basic tips:


      1. Change "astonishing" to something more evocative, like "jaw-dropping" or even "mind-boggling." "Astonishing" just doesn't seem like a good word to attach to "conspiracy." It has too many positive connotations; when you speak of a conspiracy, you're trying to hit the fear trigger, and "astonishing" is hitting moreso on the "wow that's so amazing" trigger. Make it more consistent.


      2. The "conspiracy... that's making you fat" phrasing just sounds a little amateurish in general. I'd polish it a little.


      3. Try using a before and after photo instead of just a photo of you being thin. You need to pay close attention to which niche you're targeting. If you're targeting the muscle and supplements niche, you might just go with a single picture that shows your six pack and other muscles. If you're targeting the weight loss niche, you want to include a "before" picture where you looked fat. I see you use a before and after photo halfway down the page, maybe use that at the top instead of the just the 'after' picture.


      4. There's just a general inconsistency in the tone and style of the letter that's hard to describe. You say "this is the most life changing letter you'll ever read," but then the letter just looks like the most normal, standard internet marketing template, and the copy is totally standard too. To really make the "life changing" angle work, you need to actually have a buildup, something to make the claim look like it has substance. And more importantly, you need to indicate HOW you're going to change their life.


      5. Develop the section underneath the headline "Would you rather starve yourself OR eat donuts/cheesecake/fries to lose weight?" a little more. This is good stuff but you need to bring it to life more... You need to talk a little about that "conspiracy" you were alluding to earlier. You need to make it more juicy, emotionally resonant.


      6. In general, the close needs to be stronger.

      Hope that helped man. PM me if you want more detailed tips!

      I changed it drastically already..

      What do you think? (:
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  • Profile picture of the author dudeco
    One quick and easy thing I noted: 1st image, right hand side... you don't lose "a staggering amount of fats". It should be "a staggering amount of fat", with no "s" on the end.
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    • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
      Originally Posted by dudeco View Post

      One quick and easy thing I noted: 1st image, right hand side... you don't lose "a staggering amount of fats". It should be "a staggering amount of fat", with no "s" on the end.
      Alright, thank you, corrected
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  • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
    I have studied famous sales script and videos and edited my page accordingly again What do you all think? I'm getting more cold traffic order form impressions already
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  • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
    1) I narrowed the page width.

    2) I added in testimonials.

    3) I rewrote my copy entirely, after reading through proven sales copy.

    What do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    Change the main title "2 months or less" to "60 days or less".

    Days sounds better.
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    • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
      Originally Posted by Curtis2011 View Post

      Change the main title "2 months or less" to "60 days or less".

      Days sounds better.
      Alright, done Thanks
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