How to Integrate Copy Critiques from Multiple Warriors

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I've been participating on this sub-forum for a few years now.

And every week...

People are positing their copy here looking for a professional critique.

Here's the thing that a lot of business owners don't get:

Every copywriter has a different style and approach.

So when you post your copy, you're more than likely going to get conflicting opinions about revising, rewriting and/or rebranding.

Does this actually help you (i.e. the person looking for help?)

Yes... and no.

I've seen a lot of aspiring and established business owners walk away from this forum more confused and distraught than before they posted their copy.

Because they don't know how to discern what to apply, who to listen to and how to most effectively integrate the ideas/concepts.

Let me be blunt:

If you're not already adept in writing converting copy, don't even bother asking for a critique.

It won't help you; it'll only make you more confused about what to do and how to do it.

If you are able to write decent copy, then you need to have a very clear intention on what you want to walk away with when you post for a critique:

...Tell us about your background and what makes you uniquely qualified to be perceived as an authority in your market.

...How are you driving traffic to the site?

...Who is your ideal customer/client?

...Describe your brand, USP (unique selling point) and hook.

...What emotions are you targeting?

...What do you want your prospects to feel as they read your copy?

My point is...

The more specific you are when you ask for a critique, the more relevant feedback you'll receive.

If you just throw a link up and beg for the good folks here to take time out of their day to tell you what's wrong...

...I promise you'll just get overwhelmed with a HUGE variety of opinions that get you nowhere, fast.

Remember...

Most of the professionals here normally charge a pretty penny to give an in-depth critique.

If you're not willing to approach a copywriter, whose style you like, and ask him or her for a paid critique, take the time to post your request properly.

Mark

P.S. Just like in a pitch room, one copywriter usually has his or her pulse on your market more than everyone else. Use your intuition to isolate that person and integrate their ideas the most - if not exclusively.
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  • And do remember if you are putting your magnificent promotion on the inter web.

    All you have is an Ad in cyberspace.

    You are not on the road to fame and fortune (your site just sits there with billions of others - all lonely, unloved and forlorn).

    Because...you have got to buy or get the circulation.

    The targeted traffic.

    You can have the best copy the world will never see - unless you have the right people flocking to have a look.

    I know this is blindingly obvious but it is critically important.

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    Originally Posted by Mark Pescetti View Post

    So when you post your copy, you're more than likely going to get conflicting opinions about revising, rewriting and/or rebranding.

    Does this actually help you (i.e. the person looking for help?)

    Yes... and no.

    I've seen a lot of aspiring and established business owners walk away from this forum more confused and distraught than before they posted their copy.
    And that's the price you pay for free. When you ask for FREE advice
    then you have to be prepared to do some work after that. Still for the
    price I think that many people have benefited from the advice if it
    is even a new headline.

    -Ray Edwards
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Pescetti
      Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

      And that's the price you pay for free. When you ask for FREE advice
      then you have to be prepared to do some work after that. Still for the
      price I think that many people have benefited from the advice if it
      is even a new headline.

      -Ray Edwards
      Honestly, I think more people have walked away from a critique thread more confused about what to do than ever.

      The work begins BEFORE posting the thread and giving the copywriters here all the information we'd need.

      I recently had someone from here contact me directly about a critique. I charged him $1,000 and asked him a handful of questions (like the ones in the OP) to get the ball rolling.

      Long story short...

      He didn't have total transparency about who his ideal customer was; the avatar was a faceless person. I asked him, "How the hell can you even write copy - if you don't know who you're talking with?"

      He didn't need a copy critique, yet, he either needed coaching or someone to write the copy for him. He opted for coaching, because he really wants to become a decent copywriter.

      My point is...

      A lot of people who post here don't do the intensive work, beforehand, to make sure they're totally clear about every ingredient needed to formulate the right copy.

      And if they did, great.

      But the specifics still needs to be communicated, in-depth, so the people here who respond can be effective...

      ...and so the lurkers can get something of value out of it (which for me is the bigger picture.)

      At the end of the day...

      If people want to avoid paying a copywriter to cultivate the creative process, then it's in everyone's best interest that they do the hard work before posting (and fill us in on the specifics.)

      It would also be nice if more people followed up to let the board see the revised/finished copy and/or tell us how it performed.

      Mark
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  • Mark,

    Great post, excellent advice. I have very recently posted my copy looking for a professional critique and I really appreciate your advice. I will definitely check here again next time I look for critique.

    What you said really made sense such as:
    So when you post your copy, you're more than likely going to get conflicting opinions about revising, rewriting and/or rebranding.
    Some tips you mentioned I picked up as I went; but would have been very helpful if I knew up front.

    Having some experience with marketing research did help me take the advice given and incorporate some changes.
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