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[help] Where to start as a copywriter?

by praveenshkgp
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Hi guys,
So I am interested in copyrighting, but don't know where to start or how to develop my skills, and frankly where to start is the biggest problem :confused:. But I am interested in it and every time I have free time and I have read some sales copy it always revolves my mind and I cant stop thinking, OK yes I will add this here and that there when I will make my own copy. And one more thing If i make a sales page where to post it just to get criticized. PLEASE HELP me guys you guys are experienced and I think every newbie will be interested in this thread
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  • Profile picture of the author stanigator
    Originally Posted by praveenshkgp View Post

    Hi guys,
    So I am interested in copyrighting, but don't know where to start or how to develop my skills, and frankly where to start is the biggest problem :confused:. But I am interested in it and every time I have free time and I have read some sales copy it always revolves my mind and I cant stop thinking, OK yes I will add this here and that there when I will make my own copy. And one more thing If i make a sales page where to post it just to get criticized. PLEASE HELP me guys you guys are experienced and I think every newbie will be interested in this thread
    What have you read already?
    Have you hand copied those ads?
    What are you hoping to do with it?
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  • Profile picture of the author praveenshkgp
    I Have read "web copy that sells" by Maria Veloso and "kick ass copywriting secrets of a marketing rebel" by John carlton
    and hope to make sale page for other people WSO or clickbank products and become so good that people will hire for their creating their sale page.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Gould
    Originally Posted by praveenshkgp View Post

    PLEASE HELP me guys you guys are experienced and I think every newbie will be interested in this thread
    You should learn to help yourself.

    A quick search would have revealed this question's been asked - and answered - over and over and over again.

    And you might find the very first sticky post useful:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...pywriters.html

    But judging from what you've written here, your English isn't good enough at the moment.
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    • Profile picture of the author stanigator
      Originally Posted by Andrew Gould View Post

      You should learn to help yourself.

      A quick search would have revealed this question's been asked - and answered - over and over and over again.

      And you might find the very first sticky post useful:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...pywriters.html

      But judging from what you've written here, your English isn't good enough at the moment.
      Great FAQ link you pulled up though. I could definitely use quite a few of those links myself.
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    • Profile picture of the author praveenshkgp
      Originally Posted by Andrew Gould View Post

      You should learn to help yourself.

      A quick search would have revealed this question's been asked - and answered - over and over and over again.

      And you might find the very first sticky post useful:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...pywriters.html

      But judging from what you've written here, your English isn't good enough at the moment.
      Thanks for this it is very use and you are right I should have seen that :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author TeamBringIt
    Originally Posted by praveenshkgp View Post

    Hi guys,
    So I am interested in copyrighting, but don't know where to start or how to develop my skills, and frankly where to start is the biggest problem :confused:. But I am interested in it and every time I have free time and I have read some sales copy it always revolves my mind and I cant stop thinking, OK yes I will add this here and that there when I will make my own copy. And one more thing If i make a sales page where to post it just to get criticized. PLEASE HELP me guys you guys are experienced and I think every newbie will be interested in this thread
    You wanna, start as a...copywriter? Visit, clickbank. See how, many of them sites/salesletters...don't even have a headline. If they do, many have poor ones...that grab no attention.

    If you, have experience..then possibly, offer to write, better headlines...for them. This, is just a start! You, can expand, to full salesletter in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author ReferralCandy
    Copywriters play with language. That's our job.

    The first thing you should do is to read as much as you possibly can. Read hungrily. Read a book a day if you can. You'll need the language to course through your veins. You can't fake that. People know it when they see it.

    Read and write as much as possible. I wouldn't advise you to get into this industry, to be honest, because there are a lot of us who already have a natural inclination for linguistic expressiveness.

    Don't let me discourage you if you're passionate about it, but make sure you're passionate to begin with. You won't go far if you're "just trying it out". Of course, you may discover your passion for it midway.

    Start by doing the reading, and see if you can tolerate that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clive Cable
    Do you have a background in sales? If you don't the best thing you could do is find a great product you are passionate about and sell it live to people. Start with something small. This gives your unconscious mind a real understanding of the persuasion process.

    Studying John Carlton is great. He's one of the best alive today. Maria Veloso is also excellent. I have studied them both.

    However there is no substitute for selling in person if you really want high conversions from your sales copy. To accelerate your sales ability get the book, "Pitch Anything" by Oren Klaff. It's nothing like the usual sales books out there.

    Also go to Kenrick Cleveland's website Maxpersuasion.com He's the best there is.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve The Copywriter
    Assuming you don't have the $150,000 plus you need to buy all the courses, books and seminars.

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  • Profile picture of the author smoor2012
    This was an excellent question and I appreciate the link that was given on the makepeacetotalpackage. I have bookmarked the site. When you understand that copy writing is the most essential skill you can learn, you start grabbing all the resources you can to learn all you can.

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  • Profile picture of the author Quality Copywriter
    There is a ton a free stuff online.

    Google my man, Google.

    Stick with the big names, preferably from the last century to get a real good basis.

    And remember, you can get lost in copywriting tricks and tips for ever.

    the key thing is get the message right to the market.
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  • Profile picture of the author johndetlefs
    John Carlton had some great advice for beginning copywriters.. he said to just write copy, for whoever and whomever would accept it, at any price, so that you could get some experience.

    He also said to just pick a product and write some copy for it as if you'd been hired to. Every word you write is a little bit more experience. Reading a book or getting coaching can only take you so far until you start to write.

    It was pretty good advice!
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  • Profile picture of the author jsmm
    I am far from a expert copy writer but the WSO section is a good place to read other sales copy .
    And my one tip that I know is a good one is write each sentence in your copy with a goal to have them read it and want to read the next sentence.
    Best of luck
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