Dating Copywriters

12 years ago

Anabelle,

It may have been your unfortunate experience with those 2 people.

I just met 2 copywriters in person yesterday who were in town on business. They've been happily together in a relationship for 18 months and appear to be a great match for each other IMHO.

Sometimes overconfidence is a compensation for insecurity... regardless of their profession.

Some people have a hard time separating their work life from their personal life. Kinda like the professional athlete who can't leave his work persona at the door when he gets home and just be a normal husband and father.

Food for thought,

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sethczerepak 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeHumphreys

Anabelle,

Sometimes overconfidence is a compensation for insecurity... regardless of their profession.

Interesting correlation with this post...

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RickDuris

12 years ago

Did they write for the "how to pick up girls" market? It might explain their over-confidence. Guys are taught women like men who display confidence.

- Rick Duris

PS: Interesting study: Just reading COSMO today. It said 47% of men report they're confident in bed compared to 60% of women.

Source? Survey of 18,000 people from LoveAgain.com

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AnabelleFlorida

12 years ago

Originally Posted by RickDuris

Did they write for the "how to pick up girls" market? It might explain their over-confidence. Guys are taught women like men who display confidence.

- Rick Duris

PS: Interesting study: Just reading COSMO today. It said 47% of men report they're confident in bed compared to 60% of women.

Source? Survey of 18,000 people from LoveAgain.com

Rick, one of them actually did write for the "how to pick up girls" market!

In fact he insisted he was able to pick me up because of his pick up artist knowledge :confused:

I have to admit I had to think about this, but in the end I decided that I said yes to going out with him because he loved animals and is close to his mother.

Needles to say, his overconfidence got quickly disruptive, annoying, and sometimes insulting.

I love a confident man, no question, but here I'm talking about confidence on crack.

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RickDuris

12 years ago

Originally Posted by AnabelleFlorida

In fact he insisted he was able to pick me up because of his pick up artist knowledge :confused:

Douche.

Did he mention he NLPed you too?

Just out of curiosity, did either of them write you a love letter?

Hope you find a little respect out there.

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AnabelleFlorida

12 years ago

Originally Posted by RickDuris

Douche.

Did he mention he NLPed you too?

Just out of curiosity, did either of them write you a love letter?

Hope you find a little respect out there.

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Hi Rick, no love letters. Some emails and text messages that could be considered "love" messages, but no obvious love letters.

Why do you ask?

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RickDuris

12 years ago

Originally Posted by AnabelleFlorida

Hi Rick, no love letters. Some emails and text messages that could be considered "love" messages, but no obvious love letters.

Why do you ask?

Just curious. If they were copywriters, it' be logical they'd want to put their best foot forward.

But maybe not.

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AnabelleFlorida

12 years ago

Originally Posted by RickDuris

Just curious. If they were copywriters, it' be logical they'd want to put their best foot forward.

But maybe not.

- Rick Duris

Like I said, there were emails and text messages ... the last one made sure he showed me all his "best stuff", story after story, going on and on about how great he was and how he was looking for a better, more powerful word than "guru", because he felt "guru" was just not enough to accurately describe him (not kidding)

That was early on, and even though the whole thing turned me off a bit, I was still pretty tolerant ... and I liked his cat.

But ...

Anabelle, How Did You End Up Liking A Guy like This In The First Place??

Well ... he didn't start off being obnoxiously overconfident. When we first met (a mutual friend introduced us because of our shared copywriting interest) he was a gentleman, he was charming, there was magic when he looked at me, and I was impressed with his self-confidence.

How quickly things change

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by AnabelleFlorida

Anabelle, How Did You End Up Liking A Guy like This In The First Place??

Well ... he didn't start off being obnoxiously overconfident. When we first met (a mutual friend introduced us because of our shared copywriting interest) he was a gentleman, he was charming, there was magic when he looked at me, and I was impressed with his self-confidence.

How quickly things change

So the "copy" got you but in the end the "product" sucked!

Definitely sounds like an IM relationship!

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wordwizard 12 years ago

LOL, this is one of the funniest threads I've read in a while.

Especially enjoyed the post by Mark Pescetti!

Thanks for the laughs...
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12 years ago

Originally Posted by AnabelleFlorida

.. going on and on about how great he was and how he was looking for a better, more powerful word than "guru", because he felt "guru" was just not enough to accurately describe him (not kidding)

You continued to date him after he came out with that line

If yes, then you need to become much less tolerant.

Mind you I've just be snorting with laughter at his statement, so maybe you just wanted to hear more amusing statements from him? You should have put them on facebook. Indeed, you could create a website with "Sh!t my ex came out with " and at least earn a few bucks

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The Copy Warriors 12 years ago

Originally Posted by AnabelleFlorida

In fact he insisted he was able to pick me up because of his pick up artist knowledge :confused:

LOL, what a wiener.
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AeroBuilders

12 years ago

He was probably so filled with confidence for finally getting out of his Mom's basement where he used to write his "How to pick up chicks" copy!

Originally Posted by AnabelleFlorida

Rick, one of them actually did write for the "how to pick up girls" market!

In fact he insisted he was able to pick me up because of his pick up artist knowledge :confused:

I have to admit I had to think about this, but in the end I decided that I said yes to going out with him because he loved animals and is close to his mother.

Needles to say, his overconfidence got quickly disruptive, annoying, and sometimes insulting.

I love a confident man, no question, but here I'm talking about confidence on crack.

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BrianMcLeod

12 years ago

Dave Miz... what'd you do to our new flower, Anabelle!?

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AnabelleFlorida 12 years ago

Originally Posted by BrianMcLeod

Dave Miz... what'd you do to our new flower, Anabelle!?

I'm sorry ... Dave who?
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- BrianMcLeod 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by AnabelleFlorida
  
  I'm sorry ... Dave who?
  
  Can't detect a joke... Would not date.
  
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  AnabelleFlorida 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by BrianMcLeod
  
  Can't detect a joke... Would not date.
  
  My post was a joke.
  
  Can't detect a joke ... would not date.
  
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  BrianMcLeod 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by AnabelleFlorida
  
  My post was a joke.
  
  Can't detect a joke ... would not date.
  
  I said it first. Jinx. You owe me a coke.
  
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  Claude Whitacre 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by BrianMcLeod
  
  Can't detect a joke... Would not date.
  
  Originally Posted by AnabelleFlorida
  
  My post was a joke.
  
  Can't detect a joke ... would not date.
  
  Man, I can feel the sexual tension in the room. We have just got to get you two kids together.
  
  This post was a joke.
  
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  Jeremey 12 years ago
  
  Easiest way to date a copywriter?
  
  Simple ... just cut them in half and count the rings.
  
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  BrianMcLeod 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre
  
  Man, I can feel the sexual tension in the room. We have just got to get you two kids together.
  
  Honestly, the only way I could ask Anabelle on a date is if I get a note from my wife first.
  
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Mark Pescetti

12 years ago

We live in a society where people always feel like they need to prove their worth. "You're not good enough - unless you know a lot."

That makes a lot of people (and copywriters are people) overdevelop their professional persona - oftentimes at the expense of expressing their true feelings and revealing their more spirituality side.

It's healthy to have an ego about being awesome at what you do. But if you aren't able to drop the BS and meet your lover (or other people) in a real way, I don't care how good you are, you're an idiot.

Everyone is worthy of having confidence. No exceptions.

But if you quantify your confidence by having made a handful of people money, you're in for a rough, deeply unfulfilling, hollow life.

Go wander in nature. Get lost. Sleep under the stars. Bring THAT person back to your lover, friends and clients.

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Ross Bowring

12 years ago

I know copywriters who are some of the biggest and most insecure dickheads walking planet earth, (Yes, I'm talking about YOU!) and others who are true salt-of-the-earth give-you-the-shirt-off-their-back guys. (Yes, I'm talking about YOU!) Isn't that the same across all professions? You get good dudes and bad.

--- Ross

P.S. Shouldn't this thread be in the dating sub-forum?

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BrianMcLeod 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Ross Bowring

I know copywriters who are some of the biggest and most insecure dickheads walking planet earth, (Yes, I'm talking about YOU!)

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Raydal 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Ross Bowring

P.S. Shouldn't this thread be in the dating sub-forum?

I thought the OP was looking for a copywriter in the dating niche.

Goes to show.

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- Enfusia 12 years ago
  
  People are people everywhere. Ive met people in many industries that were nice and those that were not.
  
  As far as confidence it's a thought and so like all your thoughts should be constantly evaluated to ensure it's leading you to your desired goal.
  
  Here is something that I wrote for my paid monthly newsletter that I publish that might be useful.
  
  "A man only attains to the exact measure to which he aspires. When he affixes his mind with unerring focus he in as much as his commitment foreordains his achievement. What he becomes is only bounded by his own belief of what he can be."
  
  Confidence is a belief and is extremely healthy when in balance and of course destructive when not.
  
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Robert_Rand

12 years ago

All of the comments here assume her words are gospel - that these people she dated are in fact "bad" or in the wrong.

But in reality... that's probably not reality. Rarely are conflicts black and white. I wonder what these "expert copywriters" would say. Maybe they would define Annabelle as neurotic, critical, or overly dramatic.

At a bare minimum, Ms. Annabelle decided to spend time with, and date these people. I guess I'm one of those that believes one should take responsibility for his/her actions. Kind of shocking to many, I know.

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AnabelleFlorida

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Robert_Rand

All of the comments here assume her words are gospel - that these people she dated are in fact "bad" or in the wrong.

But in reality... that's probably not reality. Rarely are conflicts black and white. I wonder what these "expert copywriters" would say. Maybe they would define Annabelle as neurotic, critical, or overly dramatic.

At a bare minimum, Ms. Annabelle decided to spend time with, and date these people. I guess I'm one of those that believes one should take responsibility for his/her actions. Kind of shocking to many, I know.

Robert, you'd be assuming right, my words in this case ARE gospel!

I may be overly dramatic sometimes, but I'm not critical or neurotic!

I am very responsible for my actions, that's why I'm no longer with either of these men.

Want to know what they would say?

Here's what one of them would say ...

"I was too much for her."

The other would say ...

"Her loss."

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ewenmack

12 years ago

Originally Posted by AnabelleFlorida

Robert, you'd be assuming right, my words in this case ARE gospel!

I may be overly dramatic sometimes, but I'm not critical or neurotic!

I am very responsible for my actions, that's why I'm no longer with either of these men.

Want to know what they would say?

Here's what one of them would say ...

"I was too much for her."

The other would say ...

"Her loss."

Some say women test men at first by asking about their previous relationships.

If he bad mouths others, then she thinks he would do it to her
if they ever parted ways.

Guys, don't be dumb and kill your chances at hello.

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Mark Pescetti

12 years ago

[Scene: Two copywriters talking to each other after sex]

"Wow, that was the best orgasm I ever had." she said

"I tried a new technique. I'm thinking about writing an ebook about it. The copy writes itself: 'Revealed! Give Your Woman Mind-Blowing Orgasms Every Night, Guaranteed!' What do ya think?"

"I don't like it. In fact, I hate it. How about this: 'Who Else Wants To Quiver With Ecstasy By Having One Earth-Shaking Orgasm After The Other?" Better, yeah?"

"I hate those 'who else' headlines. They're so frickin' lazy!"

"Oh yeah?!?! Starting off a headline with 'revealed!' isn't just as cliche? Really?"

"Ah, whatever. Go to sleep!"

"Sure, just take your tail between your legs. It wasn't that good of an orgasm anyway. P.S. I hope we get married. My vows will be SO much better than yours."

"Did you really just say PS?"

[End scene]

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AnabelleFlorida

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mark Pescetti

[Scene: Two copywriters talking to each other after sex]

"Wow, that was the best orgasm I ever had." she said

"I tried a new technique. I'm thinking about writing an ebook about it. The copy writes itself: 'Revealed! Give Your Woman Mind-Blowing Orgasms Every Night, Guaranteed!' What do ya think?"

"I don't like it. In fact, I hate it. How about this: 'Who Else Wants To Quiver With Ecstasy By Having One Earth-Shaking Orgasm After The Other?" Better, yeah?"

"I hate those 'who else' headlines. They're so frickin' lazy!"

"Oh yeah?!?! Starting off a headline with 'revealed!' isn't just as cliche? Really?"

"Ah, whatever. Go to sleep!"

"Sure, just take your tail between your legs. It wasn't that good of an orgasm anyway. P.S. I hope we get married. My vows will be SO much better than yours."

"Did you really just say PS?"

[End scene]

Mark

Cute story, but in my case, with both men, I had no problem accepting that they were better copywriters, I looked up to them, their knowledge, their talent.

Too bad they had to mess it up with disruptive, insulting cockiness.

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Steve The Copywriter

12 years ago

A few more possible reasons for "trying" to be over confident.

(You can never pull it off because if you have true confidence - you don't have to try. It's just there. It doesn't burst into demented neon colors bragging and shouting).

A copywriters life can be isolated - 18 hours a day hammering away on the typewriter - so when you go out - you can get a bit over the top "high" - "Look at me I'm a Copywriter! So I am!" (just calm down and relax).

Hardly anyone knows or understands what we do - so you tell, tell and tell. And to reinforce what your saying you boast, boast and boast (big mistake don't do this - people will quite rightly flee. You can't blame them. If you were listening you would leg it too).

If your date is a copywriter - inevitably it gets into a "competition". Which one is better? Who knows more? Whose got the best clients? Which one makes more money?

This ensures there won't be much of a romance.

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OutOfThisWord 12 years ago

You are not describing copywriters.

You are describing men.

That being said, I would suggest you try dating a graphic designer.
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- AnabelleFlorida 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by OutOfThisWord
  
  You are not describing copywriters.
  
  You are describing men.
  
  That being said, I would suggest you try dating a graphic designer.
  
  Tell me about it.
  
  Regarding dating a graphic designer ... I have a friend who's a graphic designer, he spends waaaay too much time on his computer/laptop/iphone, and has a serious obsession with video games.
  
  I would imagine a guy like that prefers to remain in the matrix and date a sim.
  
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AnabelleFlorida

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Steve The Copywriter

A few more possible reasons for "trying" to be over confident.

(You can never pull it off because if you have true confidence - you don't have to try. It's just there. It doesn't burst into demented neon colors bragging and shouting).

A copywriters life can be isolated - 18 hours a day hammering away on the typewriter - so when you go out - you can get a bit over the top "high" - "Look at me I'm a Copywriter! So I am!" (just calm down and relax).

Hardly anyone knows or understands what we do - so you tell, tell and tell. And to reinforce what your saying you boast, boast and boast (big mistake don't do this - people will quite rightly flee. You can't blame them. If you were listening you would leg it too).

If your date is a copywriter - inevitably it gets into a "competition". Which one is better? Who knows more? Whose got the best clients? Which one makes more money?

This ensures there won't be much of a romance.

Steve

Like I said above, Steve, I had no problem accepting that they were both better copywriters, so that wasn't really an issue with me.

Sue me, but if my man is really good at something, I tend to become a fan ... maybe that was my problem ... I gave these guys way too much

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KingOfContentMarketing

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Ross Bowring

I know copywriters who are some of the biggest and most insecure dickheads walking planet earth

How many copywriters does it take to change a light bulb?
One. He holds the bulb and the world revolves around him.

How many copywriters does it take to change a light bulb?
None, he has his copy cubs do it.

How many copywriting forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?
Seven. Three recommend to read the books in the stickies, two say to hire a professional, one suggests NLP, and the seventh says NLP is voodoo.

Try the veal!

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JakeDaly 12 years ago

Originally Posted by joe golfer

Try the veal!

Speaking of veal, the two restaurants I always get it at have recently stopped serving it.

Has veal gone up grossly in price? Or are people anti-baby cow eating all of a sudden?
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12 years ago

What's that saying?

Some girls...

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davemiz

12 years ago

HAHA @BMac..... nah.... i've been happily off the market for a while...

gotta practice what you preach :-)

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Dan Axelrod

12 years ago

Women line up left and right to date overconfident men. Didn't work on you but I bet you that guy isn't sleeping alone. ;-)

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elmo033057 12 years ago

Mark P. is the new Woody Allen!!!!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa! Hilarious!!!!!!

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by AnabelleFlorida

I've dated two expert copywriters, no, I won't mention any names ...

Their overconfidence really got in the way.

So I'm here to remind you that confidence is super hot, but overconfidence that goes into cockiness and conceit can mess things up.

Get a hold of yourself before you ruin something good.

I'm a copywriter and I married an SEO guy

I think he liked me enough to overlook any small overconfidence issue!

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Mikhail Hunter

12 years ago

LOL at Mark P Anyone here ever tried copywriting erotic letters to their significant other in a pre-launch sequence? Making them hot and anticipating, so when it's launch time they'll be gushing with sales.. you know what I mean

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by AnabelleFlorida

I've dated two expert copywriters, no, I won't mention any names ...

Their overconfidence really got in the way.

So I'm here to remind you that confidence is super hot, but overconfidence that goes into cockiness and conceit can mess things up.

Get a hold of yourself before you ruin something good.

Why are copywriters overconfident when other people who are good at what they do are normal? Although I suppose you have to be kind of bright to do it.

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12 years ago

Do volunteer work that sincerely interests you. Good way to meet real, decent people. And if you don't meet someone there, they know people...

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