To all you so-called "Copywriters" in here...

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Ha.

See what I did there?

I grabbed your attention and got you
to click through into the thread here.

That's the goal of your headline (dur)

But I see a lot of people asking for
critiques in here and notice this mistake
over and over and over and over and
over again.

So, I guess it needs to be said just
about as many times.

The ONLY purpose of your headline is
to get people reading more of your letter.

So make it attention getting...

In my (always accurate) opinion, there
are two kinds of headlines.

1. Pure Attention Grabber

...and...

2. Problem-Solution

The first is one you'll see more frequently
in print publications.

People are reading along and need
something to really grab them by the eye-balls
and hold them down until you're done
shoving your sales message down their throat.

This is a handy tool when people aren't
expecting to see your ad.

But the second is far more effective online.

If you've got an email list and shoot out an
message that promises 3 tricks to decreasing
your debt, your headline damn well needs
to say something to that effect.

You're gonna lose people if they get there
and have no idea what they're seeing.

This isn't a hard rule, so you need to
experiment, but it holds true most of the
time.

So think about what your prospect is doing
when they see your ads.

And make sure to use the appropriate
headline style.
#copywriting #copywriters #socalled
  • See what I just did there? Are you a JERK?

    I don't know, nor care. Just wanted you to read this post. Are you reading it?

    I'm a friggin headline writing genius, see?

    Dismissed.

    gjabiz
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  • And, I can just imagine what many copyrighters here must have thought you were going to say. Headline is very important, whether on the top of a sales page or on an email.

    If your subscriber or potential buyer doesn't read past the headline, they will miss out on everything you are trying to offer.

    Though the real hard job comes with the close where you make the call to action. By that point, you need your prospect to be boiling hot and ready to whip out the credit card to make that purchase.

    Many people don't have that strong call to action and just leave the reader hanging wondering what to do next and most times they will just click off that page if given no other valid options.









  • Yeah, I see what you did there.

    You made a classic mistake of an inexperienced marketer.

    You got attention without making a connection.

    That'll get the first 1/2 of your opening sentence read...after that, it's high bounce rate madness.
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    • This. The OP is making the same mistake of that infamous failed ad agency that would start out their copy with a headline like "HOT SEX AND BEAUTIFUL WOMEN!" and then immediately following that would say something like "Now that I have your attention, let me tell you about this new life insurance policy we're offering" or "... are not what we're offering, but we do have an excellent opportunity for you to obtain a wonderful limited edition collectible figurine."

      There's a reason that agency is no longer in business and copywriters don't try to pull this lame trick today; it's because no connection to the headline and a cheap gimmick just doesn't work.
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    • That's what I was thinking too LOL
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  • This is a discussion forum not a news site. These are discussions/threads, not stories. Its a completely different context.
  • Good read for the most part, but where is the buy now button, I cant find it,

    Saw some mention of the eye ball sucking headline, its good to have that however in real life at least in this part of the world, deceptive headlines are quite illegal.

    (It still happens all the time but things are slowly changing)
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  • Werst post iv evur read here on warrior forumz

    RG
  • I've read Chris Ramsey's emails. I'm on his list. I've bought a few of his products. He's one of the few IM email marketers I read regularly. Better than most.

    That said, I say cut him some slack. Everyone has a brain fart from time to time. He's no exception.

    - Rick Duris

    PS: Other than what I've just stated above, I don't know Chris from a hole in the wall.
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  • That was awesome! Good job!
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    • It did stroke some egos. It caught my attention because I feel the tension between posters sometimes.

      I like it. Tribal in nature... Copywriters are intense personalities.

      The old man up there would stroke most people the wrong way, but I'd like to have a cup of coffee with him. I'm driven by financial gain, not validation. I wouldn't be able to charge for the copywriting responsibility of someone else's product though. I see why it gets a bit cranky sometimes.
  • Is this supposed to be an over-analyzation of the threads title or something? I honestly think you guys are just pulling this junk out of your ass sometimes.

    RG
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    • It's being related to a headlines in sales letters (considering that's what the original post is about.)

      To say that 'relating your headline to the body' is junk is poor judgement, especially from a writer.

      I don't think anyone's having too much of a "serious" dig at Chris, but there is a lesson to be learned from Seth and Luke as well as Chris.

      On the other hand... you aren't contributing much other than troll posts.
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  • Chris Ramsey's strategy justified and embraced! Today's on Neil Patel's blog:


    It's kinda hard to ignore Neil.

    - Rick Duris

    PS: And now Chris gets to say (and rightfully so) "See. I told you so... "
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    • I'm a little surprised by the onslaught of aggressive responses here.

      It's not a bad technique. I've used it. I've helped people with it (i.e. getting their attention and sharing a powerful message they were grateful for.)

      I liked the link you shared Rick. Wasn't as over-the-top as Chris' example.

      I will say this...

      Chris came across as a little bit elitist. I also found it strange that he popped up - after being gone for a while - just to post a couple new threads... without participating in his or other people's threads. To me, that's just trying to pop a few signature clicks. But whatever. The value is there.

      Mark
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  • @ Chris Ramsey - Good one. Your title caught my attention.

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