Warrior Payments Is Your New Lead Generation Tool

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Hey Warriors/Copywriters,

First off, a prerequisite to this post is "How to Create a “Walmart on Black Friday” Riot of New Copywriting Clients" by fellow Warrior, and top-gun copywriter Rick Duris. Without it, this post will make no sense (that is... unless you're a Sherlock Holmes Fanboy ).

So if you haven't got it already... click here to grab your copy. (Not an affiliate link... just think it's a must-have for copywriters who want to pick up more clients from the WF.)

Okay, onwards...

So we've all seen the latest big deal around the WF, Warrior Payments. A service similar to Clickbank, JVzoo, etc.

Now, if you've got your hands on Rick's report, you'll know the exact way to generate leads from the Warrior Forum.

But with Warrior Payments it's 3.5x easier.

Why?

Because when a product is listed in the Affiliate Marketplace, the metrics are available to you at the click of a button (the one on the right! )



Key metrics like Sales, Conversion Rate, Earnings Per Visitor and Refund rates are all there.

So what does this mean for you?

It means that you'll be able to easily find under-performing copy.

And that is invaluable if you're using the lead generation method from the report above.

What's more is that the marketers who post their WSO on the affiliate marketplace are raising their hands as serious marketers... take that as you will... but to me it means they know the value of their copy more than your average joe.

(Of course this won't be the same for everyone, and it may well happen that every WSO is automatically posted there.)

Clickbank and JVZoo also offer the similar analytics as the new Warrior Payments, but there are already tens of copywriters trawling each listing to find under-performing copy.

Will they add Warrior Payments as one of their destinations? Probably.

But here's your edge... you'll already have a reputation on this forum as a contributor. Someone who can help marketers make money. (And if you don't, then here's a reason to get one. )

That's it... short but sweet.

Enjoy Copywriters,

Chris

P.S. Warrior Payments hasn't taken off yet... but I'd expect it to considering the hundreds of thousands of members using this forum. The new owners have also proven to be apt listeners when it comes to the needs of the members... so expect it to improve dramatically.
#generation #lead #payments #tool #warrior
  • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
    A couple of things:

    1. I like how you think. It's a wonderful application of my strategy/system.

    2. I appreciate your generosity to everyone else. You didn't have to spill the beans on the new fishing hole so soon.

    3. Just to disclaim, I did not encourage Chris to promote my report. There is no affiliate commission. But I do appreciate nonetheless. Thanks, Chris.

    The opportunity to give freely. Not saying we have a lock on it, but to me, it's what this particular forum is all about.

    Thanks again, Chris.

    - Rick Duris
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    • Profile picture of the author LinsaySmith
      Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post

      The opportunity to give freely. Not saying we have a lock on it, but to me, it's what this particular forum is all about.

      Thanks again, Chris.

      - Rick Duris
      Yeah, thank goodness he's giving freely so you can continue to charge for your report.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tim R
        Originally Posted by LinsaySmith View Post

        Yeah, thank goodness he's giving freely so you can continue to charge for your report.
        Why shouldn't he charge for his report?

        Look at how many times Rick has been thanked for his posts... you don't think he's giving away enough value for free?
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      • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
        Originally Posted by LinsaySmith View Post

        Yeah, thank goodness he's giving freely so you can continue to charge for your report.
        Congratulations, you're at post #5 and you've already got the angry mob marching towards you with rakes, torches and pitchforks.

        You'll see what I mean in the next 12 hours...

        And, oh yes, shame on Rick for charging the price of a friggin' Starbucks latte for a report that teaches people how to start a six-figure a year business.

        I guess I'll see him in that hot place cause I'd charge ten times that much.

        Good luck fighting off the mob.

        PS: I wonder if you're writing these posts from a dirty old van somewhere in the U.K.
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        • Profile picture of the author angiecolee
          Originally Posted by sethczerepak View Post

          Congratulations, you're at post #5 and you've already got the angry mob marching towards you with rakes, torches and pitchforks.

          You'll see what I mean in the next 12 hours...

          And, oh yes, shame on Rick for charging the price of a friggin' Starbucks latte for a report that teaches people how to start a six-figure a year business.

          I guess I'll see him in that hot place cause I'd charge ten times that much.

          Good luck fighting off the mob.

          PS: I wonder if you're writing these posts from a dirty old van somewhere in the U.K.
          This is probably post #25 if you count all the ones that have been deleted for the sparkling personality.

          I've been more willing to give her a shot lately since she's been toning it down a tiny bit.

          But definitely still not seeing much contribution beyond "your idea's stupid and I'm ******* brilliant". Hopefully that changes. I'd like to see more strong-willed women around here. But we're at douchebag capacity, methinks.
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          • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
            Originally Posted by angiecolee View Post

            This is probably post #25 if you count all the ones that have been deleted for the sparkling personality.

            I've been more willing to give her a shot lately since she's been toning it down a tiny bit.

            But definitely still not seeing much contribution beyond "your idea's stupid and I'm ******* brilliant". Hopefully that changes. I'd like to see more strong-willed women around here. But we're at douchebag capacity, methinks.
            If you're proposing an official "Drag Dress Day" for the men on here, I'm going to have to think about that. I have problems talking S**t in high heels.
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            • Profile picture of the author angiecolee
              Originally Posted by sethczerepak View Post

              If you're proposing an official "Drag Dress Day" for the men on here, I'm going to have to think about that. I have problems talking S**t in high heels.
              Even I have trouble talking shit in high heels.

              But picturing you guys in your Prom finery amuses me to no end.
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        • Profile picture of the author JamesDLayton
          Originally Posted by sethczerepak View Post

          PS: I wonder if you're writing these posts from a dirty old van somewhere in the U.K.
          Hey!! We don't have dirt in the U.K we have "history" :p

          But yeah he's a bit of a melon. Rick is great I've pretty much soaked his blog up the last 2 days.
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        • Profile picture of the author BudaBrit
          Great posts guys Wish I could pick up the report now, but there's too much going on that requires every penny I have.

          Originally Posted by sethczerepak View Post

          Congratulations, you're at post #5 and you've already got the angry mob marching towards you with rakes, torches and pitchforks.

          You'll see what I mean in the next 12 hours...

          And, oh yes, shame on Rick for charging the price of a friggin' Starbucks latte for a report that teaches people how to start a six-figure a year business.

          I guess I'll see him in that hot place cause I'd charge ten times that much.

          Good luck fighting off the mob.

          PS: I wonder if you're writing these posts from a dirty old van somewhere in the U.K.
          Wait, what! A Starbucks coffee is $7 in the land of the "free"? Fecking hell!
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          • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
            Originally Posted by BudaBrit View Post

            Great posts guys Wish I could pick up the report now, but there's too much going on that requires every penny I have.



            Wait, what! A Starbucks coffee is $7 in the land of the "free"? Fecking hell!
            Well, that was a marketing tactic on my part lol....

            I was assuming you'd add the double triple diabetic coma inducing flavor syrups and some whipped cream...

            ...Oh, and a Venti.

            Either way, dude, we're talking $7 here.

            *Go out to the gas station, park your car near a pump, say you're out of gas and panhandle for the money if you have to.

            *...or, go to Starbucks, fall on the floor and go to kicking. Tell everyone you're suffering from Latte withdrawal and you need some bucks to get your fix.

            Or, look below this post and grab your 14 day trial for $0 (he said self-servingly <--- like that Linsay?)

            But for God's sake, don't wait til you can afford it, that's what broke people do. That's why they stay broke.

            DISCLAIMER: Use these panhandling tips at your own risk.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Pescetti
    This quote is priceless...

    <--LinsaySmith doesn't want you to click this link. Whatever you do, don't do it, because I'll make money and you'll get copywriting Clients
    Good insight Chris. Another opportunity to use THE Report.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesDLayton
    Wait what? Linsay is a lady? Now I'm confused. Maybe it was the thought of guys in drag.
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    • Profile picture of the author JamesDLayton
      Spot on Rick. I'd just like to say that you could pretty much start that 6 figure copywriting business just reading your CopyRanger posts. And even a noob like this knows that you have to charge a fee just to weed out the dead wood. And rightly so. That which is given freely is hardly ever made use of.

      That which is earned is mulled over and nurtured. Props to Rick for dishing out so much free content.

      Love and Light
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  • Profile picture of the author angiecolee
    I recently saw a chick in a form-fitting top and designer jeans, wearing designer sandals and carrying a designer purse. Bleach-blonde hair, fully made up.

    Standing on a street corner, holding a sign, begging for food/money.

    I'm not saying I endorse begging, but Seth's right - there's all kinds out there and they know how to get money when they need to.

    One of my best learning experiences was last year (was it really that little time? It feels like ages ago). I wanted to go to John Carlton's seminar in San Diego. I did not have the money. So I wrote a crowdsourcing campaign and pulled in more than double what I asked for between the online donations and the offline deals with clients.

    Don't get stuck in the "I can't afford it, I have to wait" mentality. Seth's right - that's what broke people do.

    You make an investment. You find a way to scare up some cash. And you get shit done. Because that's how you WIN.
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    • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
      Originally Posted by angiecolee View Post

      One of my best learning experiences was last year (was it really that little time? It feels like ages ago). I wanted to go to John Carlton's seminar in San Diego. I did not have the money. So I wrote a crowdsourcing campaign and pulled in more than double what I asked for between the online donations and the offline deals with clients.

      Don't get stuck in the "I can't afford it, I have to wait" mentality. Seth's right - that's what broke people do.

      You make an investment. You find a way to scare up some cash. And you get shit done. Because that's how you WIN.
      #WINNING

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    • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
      Originally Posted by angiecolee View Post

      I recently saw a chick in a form-fitting top and designer jeans, wearing designer sandals and carrying a designer purse. Bleach-blonde hair, fully made up.

      Standing on a street corner, holding a sign, begging for food/money.
      Well, I was going to suggest that too, but I've already made drag queen joke on this thread.
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      • Profile picture of the author angiecolee
        Originally Posted by sethczerepak View Post

        Well, I was going to suggest that too, but I've already made drag queen joke on this thread.
        I was desperately hoping it was some sort of college project/social experiment and not an indicator of what society's come to.
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    • Profile picture of the author perryny
      Originally Posted by angiecolee View Post

      You make an investment. You find a way to scare up some cash. And you get shit done. Because that's how you WIN.
      But don't spend your money if you don't intend to get shit done.

      Becuase: Make an investment. Scare up some cash. DON'T get shit done. Look for another investment. Scare up more cash. DON'T get shit done. Look for another investment...

      Is how NOT to win. But it's how most play the game.
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      • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
        Originally Posted by perryny View Post

        But don't spend your money if you don't intend to get shit done.

        Becuase: Make an investment. Scare up some cash. DON'T get shit done. Look for another investment. Scare up more cash. DON'T get shit done. Look for another investment...

        Is how NOT to win. But it's how most play the game.
        Yeah, yah gotta have the hustle...all the more reason to do what it takes to get the money. If you're willing to hustle when the money's not there, you've got the guts to make the money come to you
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        • Profile picture of the author perryny
          There are lots of reasons people will continue to spend money and fail to get things done.

          Not being willing to hustle is definitely one possibility. So is not having clarity on what they really want to do. Or not having a good plan. Or not following a plan that's been laid out for them.

          I'm sure (ok, not sure, but I'm guessing) there's more than a couple folks who were at that Carlton seminar with Angie who couldn't afford the ticket - but got the cash together anyway - and today they're still not making a living writing copy.

          Point being, BudaBrit... if you can write copy, and you want to write copy, and you're ready to write copy and all you need is a client to write copy for - $7 for Rick's report is, in my opinion, a very wise investment. Time to get shit done.

          But I have no idea what all that stuff you've got going on is, so spend your money where you see fit.

          -Rob
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          • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
            Originally Posted by perryny View Post

            There are lots of reasons people will continue to spend money and fail to get things done.

            Not being willing to hustle is definitely one possibility. So is not having clarity on what they really want to do. Or not having a good plan. Or not following a plan that's been laid out for them.

            I'm sure (ok, not sure, but I'm guessing) there's more than a couple folks who were at that Carlton seminar with Angie who couldn't afford the ticket - but got the cash together anyway - and today they're still not making a living writing copy.

            Point being, BudaBrit... if you can write copy, and you want to write copy, and you're ready to write copy and all you need is a client to write copy for - $7 for Rick's report is, in my opinion, a very wise investment. Time to get shit done.

            But I have no idea what all that stuff you've got going on is, so spend your money where you see fit.

            -Rob
            I can't tell you how many successful entrepreneurs I've talked to who have a rock bottom story where they spent their last $200 (or so) on something that changed their life.

            I'm convinced that's one of the biggest mindset differences between the broke and the prosperous. Broke people wait until they have the ____ to do something, successful people just get moving, knowing that the ___ will come to them if they act in faith.

            Hell, even Saint Peter didn't need to walk on water while he was still in the boat.
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          • Profile picture of the author BudaBrit
            Originally Posted by perryny View Post

            There are lots of reasons people will continue to spend money and fail to get things done.

            Not being willing to hustle is definitely one possibility. So is not having clarity on what they really want to do. Or not having a good plan. Or not following a plan that's been laid out for them.

            I'm sure (ok, not sure, but I'm guessing) there's more than a couple folks who were at that Carlton seminar with Angie who couldn't afford the ticket - but got the cash together anyway - and today they're still not making a living writing copy.

            Point being, BudaBrit... if you can write copy, and you want to write copy, and you're ready to write copy and all you need is a client to write copy for - $7 for Rick's report is, in my opinion, a very wise investment. Time to get shit done.

            But I have no idea what all that stuff you've got going on is, so spend your money where you see fit.

            -Rob
            Things are moving On this point, I'm waiting on an answer for a job that would really suit me. Copy, but also a lot of other things involved in a successful business. It will give me a lot and I'll be paid for it. If I don't get it, though, then I will be sending out my first prospecting letters. If that does happen, I will come back and buy Ricks book right then. For now, though, I'll play the waiting game for that one more week, even if that makes me broke.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mark Pescetti
              Originally Posted by BudaBrit View Post

              Things are moving On this point, I'm waiting on an answer for a job that would really suit me. Copy, but also a lot of other things involved in a successful business. It will give me a lot and I'll be paid for it. If I don't get it, though, then I will be sending out my first prospecting letters. If that does happen, I will come back and buy Ricks book right then. For now, though, I'll play the waiting game for that one more week, even if that makes me broke.
              The thing about Rick's report is...

              The technique can be used by virutally anyone in the IM service industry... from graphic and website designers... to article writers... to Facebook marketers.

              Basically anyone looking for a surefire way to get high-quality, high-paying clients.

              And BudaBrit...

              I get it.

              You've got your priorities.

              But if you're wafting for a month for money to come into your PayPal account, imagine what you can achieve in the meantime - if you buy The Report... use the technique... and totally change the story you're telling right now.

              Your circumstances change... as you change. Not the other way around.

              Just saying.

              And no...

              I don't get commissions either.

              I just know it works. My whole career is based on everything Rick talks about.

              Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author BudaBrit
      Originally Posted by sethczerepak View Post

      Well, that was a marketing tactic on my part lol....

      I was assuming you'd add the double triple diabetic coma inducing flavor syrups and some whipped cream...

      ...Oh, and a Venti.

      Either way, dude, we're talking $7 here.

      *Go out to the gas station, park your car near a pump, say you're out of gas and panhandle for the money if you have to.

      *...or, go to Starbucks, fall on the floor and go to kicking. Tell everyone you're suffering from Latte withdrawal and you need some bucks to get your fix.

      Or, look below this post and grab your 14 day trial for $0 (he said self-servingly <--- like that Linsay?)

      But for God's sake, don't wait til you can afford it, that's what broke people do. That's why they stay broke.

      DISCLAIMER: Use these panhandling tips at your own risk.
      Originally Posted by angiecolee View Post

      I recently saw a chick in a form-fitting top and designer jeans, wearing designer sandals and carrying a designer purse. Bleach-blonde hair, fully made up.

      Standing on a street corner, holding a sign, begging for food/money.

      I'm not saying I endorse begging, but Seth's right - there's all kinds out there and they know how to get money when they need to.

      One of my best learning experiences was last year (was it really that little time? It feels like ages ago). I wanted to go to John Carlton's seminar in San Diego. I did not have the money. So I wrote a crowdsourcing campaign and pulled in more than double what I asked for between the online donations and the offline deals with clients.

      Don't get stuck in the "I can't afford it, I have to wait" mentality. Seth's right - that's what broke people do.

      You make an investment. You find a way to scare up some cash. And you get shit done. Because that's how you WIN.
      Of course, you're right. Yet my reasons for not spending aren't that I'm flat out broke. I just have more important things to spend on (sorry Rick).

      Plus, I've got no money on Paypal right now, and I'm putting off paying someone else until I next get paid by Paypal...which isn't looking like it will happen for at least another month now :p
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      • Profile picture of the author LinsaySmith
        Originally Posted by BudaBrit View Post


        Plus, I've got no money on Paypal right now, and I'm putting off paying someone else until I next get paid by Paypal...which isn't looking like it will happen for at least another month now :p
        Don't fall for the line you have to spend money on just one more super needed special report to make it.

        Spending more money won't help you become successful.

        If you look in the stickies section, someone took the time to put together a whole library of free wealth.

        You can spend days and weeks getting a free education.

        You can go from flat broke or almost broke, and just from the free info in the sticky, you can learn all you need to become successful.

        http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...pywriters.html

        There's even a section called, "How to get clients"
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        • Profile picture of the author perryny
          Originally Posted by LinsaySmith View Post

          Don't fall for the line you have to spend money on just one more super needed special report to make it.
          http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...pywriters.html

          There's even a section called, "How to get clients"
          I don't think anyone said it's super needed.

          I will say I think it can be super helpful. And if it's a choice between clicking through the links in the thread to find actionable info to try... or having Rick, who I trust, sell me a single method for getting new clients, that he says is proven to work, that he can explain in 12 short pages - for $7... I think my time AND money would be better spent starting with option b.
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          • Profile picture of the author LinsaySmith
            Originally Posted by perryny View Post

            or having Rick, who I trust, sell me a single method for getting new clients, that he says is proven to work
            There ya go, all the clients ya need. Wealth is just around the corner for you. You've discovered the secrets.
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            • Profile picture of the author perryny
              If you can write, and you follow the advice in this thread and Rick's report... wealth could most certainly be right around the corner.
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              • Profile picture of the author LinsaySmith
                Originally Posted by perryny View Post

                If you can write, and you follow the advice in this thread and Rick's report... wealth could most certainly be right around the corner.
                Yea, we kinda get the point you're a rabid fan of his, but next time order the ad promo special where you can get spots that also run on the late shows.

                Geez dude.
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                • Profile picture of the author perryny
                  Actually, why wouldn't wealth be attainable if you have adequate writing skills, an ability to write every day, and you follow the advice in Rick's report and this thread specifically?

                  Baring an unforeseen disaster, what would prevent a copywriter willing to hustle from reaching their financial goals?
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                      • Profile picture of the author LinsaySmith
                        Originally Posted by perryny View Post

                        Bazinga? .
                        No, bazooka.

                        Would give a bang to the ending of the infomercial. Just a tip. Especially if there was like a clock or something ticking down, and then a big boom when time ran out.
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                        • Profile picture of the author perryny
                          Well, it ain't Andrews. Andrews was way sharper than this dude.
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                          • Profile picture of the author LinsaySmith
                            Originally Posted by perryny View Post

                            Well, it ain't Andrews. Andrews was way sharper than this dude.
                            Dude?

                            Well let me tell you something right now. If you're going to continue to do posts that don't advertise this special report, you're out of the infomercial.

                            No bus ride for you!!!
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                          • Profile picture of the author ThePromotionalGuy
                            RICK FRIGGIN LIED!!!

                            The report has 13 pages not 12.

                            All kidding aside, here is a slant to buying other people's information.

                            When I was a tradesmen for 26 years, I quickly learned that to increase my invoices I had to stay up-to-date on changes in the hardware industry. If I relied on outdated material I lost business. That meant classes, seminars, books, tests, training material, certifications, licensing and building, fire, ADA federal laws and life safety compliance.

                            All the training I purchased and studied took me from working out of the trunk of a car to having a security clearance as a vendor for the Department of Defense, FBI, Homeland Security, IRS and other federal agencies.

                            That thought pattern for me transferred over to copywriting and marketing and is why I've spent over 6 figures in books, reports, classes, courses, DVDs, cassettes, events and so on for the past 20+ years. Plus $7 today.

                            I'm in freelance copywriting not to beg for freebies or discounts. I'm out to win and why I've been privileged to write copy in 42 different industries. It's all about "ON GOING TRAINING!" not why someone is charging for a report.

                            I personally don't like Rick. His hair looks better than mine plus he probably surfs better to...the scumbag.

                            But regardless of what your reason might be for not spending $7 on a 13...12 page report - note this you will never be my competitor.

                            Competitors know that to stay on the cutting edge you spare no expense to learn.
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                              • Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post

                                Either you just read Robert Ringer's "Why I Hate Jay Abraham" advertorial. Why I Hate Jay Abraham - My Note Taking Nerd (The copy is brilliant.) Or you just watched Keanu Reeves in The Advocate. I can't tell. But you're funny.

                                Either way, I appreciate the admirable commitment to yourself and your craft. And thanks for your purchase today.

                                - Rick Duris
                                Rick,


                                You have excellent taste in copy. I feel blessed to have come across that piece. I think my favorite part of it was Robert saying he wanted to light Jay's beard on fire after he'd ripped his "brilliant" copy to shreds so benevolently.

                                But Robert was the bigger man. There were certain things he didn't like about Jay but he was willing to be open to seeing the positive intention behind some of Jay's quirks instead of rigidly adhering to a limited impression of him that didn't encompass the full spectrum of who Jay was. And he profited as the result of this, as do many who avail themselves of Jay's wisdom/friendship.

                                It is kinda weird/awesome that this topic of belief change comes up now because it directly coincides with notes I'm taking on the 13 hour ******* of a course titled, "Conversational Magic" that was presented by Robert Dilts, one of the pioneers of Neuro Linguistic Programming.

                                For years now I've been telling marketers that there is absolute gold locked in this course that was dedicated to the art of conversational belief change. This is the kind of belief change that Robert Ringer was able to use to make the perfect prospect for Jay Abraham want to lynch Jay because the headline states that he is on the enemy list of their guru . . . and by the end of the piece want to shower Jay with praise and money. And have fun while having their beliefs expanded.

                                I'm highly interested in the art of having your perfect prospects enjoy the process of convincing themselves that it would be in their best interest to pay you their attention and their money.

                                And for me, it’s never about taking your money.

                                I’ll take all the money you want to give me where I can provide value. And if I can, I’ll get you to give me more money than you’re comfortable giving me if I know you get great value in return for doing so.

                                I have no hesitancy in taking your money. I have no hesitancy in persuading you to give me your money as long as I’m convinced that there is an equitable or greater return in value to you.

                                If you want to give me your money and I don’t believe I can fulfill the value that this money represents, I won’t take your money.

                                And when it comes to information marketing it can be a challenge because I know people have ****ed up beliefs about money, ****ed up beliefs about themselves, and then I fully understand how some people are rebelling against "paying to play" because of the how the education system, first of all at the level of our children, is just so corrupt.

                                We’re teaching kids that we fundamentally don’t want them to know.

                                The basic message in school is, “Don’t make trouble, fit in, be good, and someone else has all the real important shit – information, money, opportunity, etc. and what you need to do is find a way for them to bestow upon you some of their largesse. If they sprinkle some of their pixie dust on you, you’ll be okay because you’re not okay, unfortunately.”

                                The school system does this in every which way from the second we put a kid in a classroom with a teacher. And then we do it again when we put them into a work environment. And then we do it again when we send them to get a university education.

                                Joseph Campbell says, “PHD’s are in the womb of education so long that even when they get out and somebody asks them a question, you listen to them and they can never seem to give a straight answer. You get a baseball player or a football player on the same show and ask them the same question and they give a straight answer right from the hip. The PHD’s are still in the auditorium of their professors thinking that they’re supposed to give the right answer and hoping they’ll get full credit for the answer they give.”

                                This is the society that we’re raising.

                                And some people are recognizing this and are trying on the 180 degree "**** THE TEACHERS - **** THE MONEY GRUBBING AUTHORITIES" approach to life.

                                If you know Robert Ringer's stuff, you know he's all about undermining the bullshit beliefs we as a society have been conditioned to buy into that are keeping you locked up in a prison of your own making.

                                So is Robert Dilts.

                                Beliefs give meaning to things.They can stand in the way of our progress or open up doors that lead us to becoming the next best version of ourselves.

                                Robert’s mother, Pat Dilts, had been diagnosed with having breast cancer.

                                The doctors had done a mastectomy to make sure they got all the cancer out and told her they got it all and she didn’t have to worry, but two years later she got cancer in her other breast and it had metastasized and spread to her immune system, her lymph system, her bladder, her uterus, her ovaries, and to pretty much every bone in her body.

                                This was diagnosed as stage 5 breast cancer and there is no stage 6. Not good.

                                At this time, this was the worst thing that had every happened to her. Of course she was devastated and depressed by this and did not expect to live very long.

                                10 years later she was still alive and was very healthy, swimming a mile a day, amongst other things and she was able to look back on that diagnosis as being the best thing that had ever happened to her.

                                So this begs the question of, “How does the worst thing that ever happened to you become the best thing that ever happened to you?”

                                The event is the same yet your relationship to it is different.

                                Belief is ESSENTIAL when you don’t know the answers, when you don’t know how you’re going to get from where you are to where you want to be. Think about how in the case of Robert’s mother where the time for her to believe she could beat cancer was precisely the time when she was the most ill – precisely the time when the reality was the polar opposite of that belief.

                                People say, “Seeing is believing.” Robert says, “Hey man, by the time you see it you don’t need to believe it anymore.”

                                His mom needed to believe that it was possible for her to get better precisely when she was the most ill. That was when belief was most essential. Not when she was healed.

                                BELIEF IS NOT A REFLECTION OF REALITY; IT IS HOW YOU CREATE REALITY.

                                The persons who built a flying machine had to believe they could create a flying machine before they actually built it. They didn’t have the luxury of being able to say, “Well, once I build one, THEN I’ll believe it is possible.” They believed it could be done and THEN they found the way to make the when, the how, the where happen.

                                Many people who brought about inventions or social change, did so where the objects and social norms did not already exist.

                                The question to ask is “How do you create reality?”

                                It’s one thing to live in reality and another thing to recognize reality. It is an entirely different thing to create it. Especially when the reality you want to create is wildly different that what the reality is now.

                                Most people are stuck in what reality looks like now.

                                When people tell Robert that something is impossible, his response is, “Everything is impossible until it isn’t.

                                It was impossible to go to the moon until it wasn’t. It was impossible to have a cell phone until it wasn’t. It was impossible for a black man to become the President of the United States until it wasn’t. Everything is impossible until it isn’t.

                                The beginning of making the impossible possible is believing.

                                Your beliefs determine how you approach the events of your life – the actions you take, the level of motivation you have, etc.

                                THIS is why information gets a bad name primarily. Yeah, of course some information is shit and is not even worth our alert attention - what I believe to be our most valuable asset - but I believe this is not the norm.

                                Especially if you take on the stance that another belief change authority I admire, Joseph Riggio, does which is that he doesn't care how "bad" other people say the content that he's paid for is. Why? Because he tells himself before he even goes to the seminar or reads the book or listens to the course that he's going to get his money's worth out of it. Over. Period. Done.

                                He doesn't put this responsibility onto the creator. He tasks himself with finding the value inside of the content that pays for itself. And I trust that he does.

                                That's a different belief than I would say 99% of people who buy info products believe. And this is why they either A) don't get results because they didn't do anything with it and they beat themselves up for this or B) they don't get results because they didn't do anything with it and they put the blame on the authority because the truth is ugly or C) They consume the information and put it to the test and get awesome results or they flop and they ask for help from the creator, on how to refine their approach.

                                That's not everyone who buys an info product but I believe it entails 90+% of the people who do.

                                And when it comes to information, I know that I've never said anything that I didn't learn from someone else. That's part of being a human. So with this in mind, I'm continually open to the idea of someone feeding the hungry beast that is my mind so that it enriches and enhances the material already stock piled there and serves as the rich reservoir I can tap into in the future.

                                When information, free or paid for, lands on our lap, our beliefs determine what happens next - NOT the information. If we can embrace the belief that we can find and will use something in this information that will help us become the next best version of ourselves, we can consistently evolve forward. But if we don't believe in ourselves enough to even try, nothing will help us.

                                As Robert Dilts says, "Everything is impossible until it isn't."

                                Thank you Rick for reminding me of this important lesson and for the shout out here. I very much appreciate both! I wish you continued success on your mission here and in life.
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        • Profile picture of the author angiecolee
          Originally Posted by LinsaySmith View Post

          Don't fall for the line you have to spend money on just one more super needed special report to make it.

          Spending more money won't help you become successful.

          If you look in the stickies section, someone took the time to put together a whole library of free wealth.

          You can spend days and weeks getting a free education.

          You can go from flat broke or almost broke, and just from the free info in the sticky, you can learn all you need to become successful.

          http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...pywriters.html

          There's even a section called, "How to get clients"
          Nothing she's said here is untrue. Take it from someone who chose living in her car to pursue this field over moving back in with the parents.

          But time is more a premium to me these days than cash. For others, cash is more premium than time. Only you can decide what is worth what.

          But for the love of all that is holy and Gary Halbert's magic fingertips, TAKE ACTION NOW.
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    Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
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    I'm kinda wondering how we go from a site that charges people to advertise, to one where Mr. Durris uses the cheap way out and uses the forum to advertise his special report for free.

    If the guy is so successful, why wouldn't he reach into his deep pockets and support the forum by paying to advertise his latest breakthrough secrets?

    Also, to be completely blunt about things, it seems odd that he jumps in with both feet to endorse the new program offered by the forum when in their ads they explicitly call out 2 other established programs that are already in existence, and show how they're gonna undercut their prices., which basically kicks the legs out from under them.

    Seems Mr. Durris is all happy to sponsor something when his name is mentioned, and it helps sell his stuff, even at the expense of a couple established groups that have given a lot back to the forum.

    Yea, knew I couldn't go a whole night without keeping it real.
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      Originally Posted by LinsaySmith View Post

      I'm kinda wondering how we go from a site that charges people to advertise, to one where Mr. Durris uses the cheap way out and uses the forum to advertise his special report for free.

      If the guy is so successful, why wouldn't he reach into his deep pockets and support the forum by paying to advertise his latest breakthrough secrets?

      Also, to be completely blunt about things, it seems odd that he jumps in with both feet to endorse the new program offered by the forum when in their ads they explicitly call out 2 other established programs that are already in existence, and show how they're gonna undercut their prices., which basically kicks the legs out from under them.

      Seems Mr. Durris is all happy to sponsor something when his name is mentioned, and it helps sell his stuff, even at the expense of a couple established groups that have given a lot back to the forum.

      Yea, knew I couldn't go a whole night without keeping it real.
      Well, not sure who this Mr. "Durris" is (or maybe it's just really cold where you are)....but why pay for advertising when you've got a thread like this working for you already? On that point, maybe he'll send you a free fruit basket for pouring some gas on the fire.

      P.T. Barrrrrrnum would be proud.
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    There is no end to learning. If you want to stay on top of the success ladder, you have to keep on learning. The day one stops learning is the day one dies.
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    This is super valuable information and anyone having a problem getting clients should take note of this strategy *closing mouth quickly
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