Anyhow have alternatives to amazing selling machine software?

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I just finished studying the Amazing Selling Machine course which teaches about how to sell on amazon

Amazing Academy | Official Site
Real 7-Figure Business | Amazing Selling Machine

They have a few tools that are introduced in their later stages, which are custom developed by the company founders based on their amazon business model, which includes the following

Press release tool: (provided with the membership)
UB: URL Booster tool: (provided with the membership)
Promotion tool: (Provided in the member's area)
Video tool: (Provided in your member's area)
Traffic Robot: (Provided in your member's area)

The issue I'm facing is that I don't have their 4000$ membership and I already watched all the videos. I watched and documented it from a friend's account, but now I don't have access to the tools and it's a bummer.

Are there any alternatives to their custom designed tools? or do I need to pay them 4000$ for it's access?
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  • Profile picture of the author LABEShops
    Would be pretty impossible to tell without knowing what their tools do. I'm sure there are other options for these though - you will probably need to do a lot of google research.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustler101
    I already tried searching in goggle, nothing came up.

    Does anybody on here have access to Amazing Selling Machine software tools? If so could be have a discussion please, I'd like to get into the details of these tools, that would be really helpful!
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  • Profile picture of the author Holmstrom
    Hi hustler101, yeah, I have a same kind of problems. 4000$ ? damn..its insane. When they did their first launch I almost jump in. Now I´m glad I didn´t. I´m searching information every day. Those tools are for promoting your online store, right? You can have your press release written with 5 bucks on Fiverr and released it. Amazon have their own advertising system where you can promote your store!
    Start with those.
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    • Profile picture of the author ivyzya
      yes indeed!!! you can have a press release for only 5 buck on fiverr.com
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  • Profile picture of the author jkgultimate
    There are much better programs out there than Amazon Selling Machine for Amazon FBA.

    I personally figured out the ranking system in Amazon, and can rank any item on the first page for competitive keywords. I am not going to spam this thread with my links so if you are interested, PM me.
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    • Profile picture of the author JamesScarlet
      I would be interested in knowing more about your ability to gain sales rank on Amazon but am currently unable to pm you. Can you assist?

      Best Regards

      James
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    • Profile picture of the author DWaters
      Originally Posted by jkgultimate View Post

      There are much better programs out there than Amazon Selling Machine for Amazon FBA.
      I agree that there are some excellent FBA training programs available that cost far less that 4k (I guess P.T. Barnam was correct!).

      I spend some time at some excellent blogs and forums that provide great advice. Slip McGrath, Jordan Malik, Cynthis Stine, Jeccica Larrew and Jim Cockrum's sites are all very helpful.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Abreu
      Saw your post on one of the threads regarding Amazon. I am interested in how you can quickly rank a product. Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Importexport
        Originally Posted by Joe Abreu View Post

        Saw your post on one of the threads regarding Amazon. I am interested in how you can quickly rank a product. Thanks
        Sorry but I don't do any online marketing, so I can't help you there.

        My specialty is safely sourcing the products once you have chosen which products you want to sell.
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    • Profile picture of the author sachindere
      hi jkgultimate,
      Can you tell me how do you make yourr Amazon Listing appear on the first page? Sorry i cant pm as im still a newbie
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      • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
        Originally Posted by sachindere View Post

        hi jkgultimate,
        Can you tell me how do you make yourr Amazon Listing appear on the first page? Sorry i cant pm as im still a newbie
        I'm assuming your mean on the first page of amazon's listing as opposed to say Google SERPS.

        Amazon have an algorithm they use to rank listings (just like Google do when you Google something and get a page of results). The algorithm is secret. Like Google they don't want people trying to 'game' the system.

        However there are a number of factors that experience, successful, amazon sellers (like myself) 'know' are important. We just don't know all of them or the weighting that amazon gives to them.

        For example:
        sales volume,
        sales recency,
        number of reviews,
        scores of reviews,
        whether or not you are in the FBA program, etc, etc, etc.
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      • Profile picture of the author DWaters
        Originally Posted by sachindere View Post

        hi jkgultimate,
        Can you tell me how do you make yourr Amazon Listing appear on the first page? Sorry i cant pm as im still a newbie
        I think what you really want is to be in the Amazon "buy box". This means that if the buyer is on the product page and does not bother to look at all the individual listings but just clicks on "by now" that will be your sale. It also reads that the items is available from your company at the top section of that page. I know that a huge percentage of sales (like maybe 80%) are sold to the person in the buy box.

        As mentioned above the algorithm is semi-secret. Having good sales record, good seller feedback, low returns and low refunds all play into who wins the buy box, which may also alternate between different sellers over time. As an FBA seller I simply try to be the lowest priced FBA seller, unless another FBA seller is too low and then I wait for him to sell out. This often gets me the buy box.
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      • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
        Originally Posted by sachindere View Post

        hi jkgultimate,
        Can you tell me how do you make yourr Amazon Listing appear on the first page? Sorry i cant pm as im still a newbie
        Yes DWalters is correct if it is the 'buy' box you are referring to.

        In addition the best way to defeat the 'buy' box scenario is not to sell generic brand products at all but to do what we do inside of ASM - sell your own label products. Selling own label has many unique benefits and is one of the reasons that ASM is so successful.

        This dramatically reduces the 'buy' box problem because you have ownership of your own brand. (It doesn't completely get rid of 'buy' box problem 100% but it reduces it to virtually nothing the vast majority).
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        • Profile picture of the author Bigbucks
          I joined ASM and make a decent monthly wage selling now on Amazon. However I would not fret about the tools, even Traffic Robot they discontinued. I stopped using them in the end. The backlink system does not seem to be working anymore to rank on Amazon.
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        • Profile picture of the author snakeyes37
          Originally Posted by ZanyZebra View Post

          Yes DWalters is correct if it is the 'buy' box you are referring to.

          In addition the best way to defeat the 'buy' box scenario is not to sell generic brand products at all but to do what we do inside of ASM - sell your own label products. Selling own label has many unique benefits and is one of the reasons that ASM is so successful.

          This dramatically reduces the 'buy' box problem because you have ownership of your own brand. (It doesn't completely get rid of 'buy' box problem 100% but it reduces it to virtually nothing the vast majority).

          If you have any questions you need answering about ASM then just message me direct, I'll give you straight answers. Good luck with your business.
          Private label is okay if you have significant capital to start with. It also requires more promoting then selling generic products, which again requires more money.
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          • Profile picture of the author Importexport
            Originally Posted by snakeyes37 View Post

            Private label is okay if you have significant capital to start with. It also requires more promoting then selling generic products, which again requires more money.
            There is a myth that to buy direct from manufacturers overseas you must place very large orders.

            That is not the case. It is possible to ignore the huge MOQs quoted by most suppliers, and negotiate small orders. I have taught hundreds how to do it.

            Private labeling can be part of the process even on small orders. It depends on the type of product and your knowledge of the many different ways in which your own brand can be applied to a product.
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          • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
            Originally Posted by snakeyes37 View Post

            Private label is okay if you have significant capital to start with. It also requires more promoting then selling generic products, which again requires more money.
            Many think so, but it's not necessarily the case at all.

            You don't need significant capital (I guess 'significant' is a relative term).

            For those i've coached inside of ASM they have been able to private label and get their first order for somewhere between $500 and $1000. I myself never spend more than $1000 when testing a product (and I now have many).

            As for promoting it costs no more than a generic product to promote. I'm puzzled as to why you think it's more to do so. Neither amazon or facebook or google charge you any more money for advertising whether you are private label or generic.

            Good luck with your ventures.
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      • Profile picture of the author Khanda
        Originally Posted by sachindere View Post

        hi jkgultimate,
        Can you tell me how do you make yourr Amazon Listing appear on the first page? Sorry i cant pm as im still a newbie
        This guy is new in amazon. He started later of last year but have amazingly increase his sale from day to day. Learn from his system. Read this: Grow your Amazon business... Invest in yourself and make money online.
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  • Profile picture of the author upnya
    I do really well not using any paid program. If you have any questions let me know.
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    • Profile picture of the author YellowFlash2012
      Originally Posted by upnya View Post

      I do really well not using any paid program. If you have any questions let me know.
      I have got $1,000 and would like to get started with private label. How do you think I should proceed to have everything ready within the stated $1,000? i.e brand + inventory.
      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author upnya
        Hello, I don't want to steer you in the wrong direction - I don't do anything with private label. I source regular products, from U.S. distributors, then sell it. I'll be happy to help with any questions other than private label, as I don't have experience in that area.
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      • Profile picture of the author Importexport
        Originally Posted by YellowFlash2012 View Post

        I have got $1,000 and would like to get started with private label. How do you think I should proceed to have everything ready within the stated $1,000? i.e brand + inventory.
        Thanks
        To succeed at private labeling or any online selling of physical products you need to understand that profits start with buying. Unless you buy the right product at the best possible price, clever marketing will not get you maximum profits.

        I have had book readers start off importing direct from manufacturers with less than $1,000 and make good money.

        Here is an email I received recently that proves the point:
        "Ok. From extremely skeptical to successful completion. Credit given where credit is due. I followed the book instructions you laid out. Took my time to double check everything and was able to successfully import an order from China. Not only that but it was also a "sample order" for less than 300.00. A 300% mark up has allowed to get initial investment back and I have 70% of my inventory left. Stop promoting your book. Your encouraging competition for me Many thanks."

        His comment about encouraging competition was obviously tongue-in-cheek.
        There are millions of products out there. All you have to do is choose one that you can be sure of selling and can do so at a price that leaves you a good profit after all costs.

        I don't teach how to choose the product or how to sell, but I do teach how to safely source direct from genuine manufacturers at amazing prices.
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      • Profile picture of the author HARSHA4306
        Hi Upnya,

        Can you please tell me some of the US distributors you are using ? I want to sell on amazon.
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        • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
          Originally Posted by HARSHA4306 View Post

          Hi Upnya,

          Can you please tell me some of the US distributors you are using ? I want to sell on amazon.
          What do you mean by distributor? Do you mean the company that warehouses then distributes the products once a sale has been made? If so then that is amazon (in my case and many ASMer's case). This can be done by using amazon FBA program.
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          • Profile picture of the author AadhyaMehra
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            Steps to selling on Amazon-
            Create your own seller account
            Click on the "Your Account." drop-down box on the Amazon homepage. You can find this option under your name on the top right-hand side of the page.
            Click on the seller account. this can be find on the right of the top menu.
            Click "Start Selling." This will take you to a new page where you can choose which type of seller you are. Click this option under "Individual Sellers" or "Professional Sellers," depending on the type of seller you'd like to become. Individual Sellers tend to be free from selling fees (with the exception of commission Amazon takes from each order) while the Professional Sellers are fee-based and tend to mostly be used by those who own (rather profitable) offline stores otherwise.
            Create a listing for an item.
            pack and ship your item.
            Recieve payment.
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    • Profile picture of the author awbenjamin1
      I have just started kindle publishing. Can you give me advice and suggestions to promote freely. Your help will be very much appreciated
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  • Profile picture of the author knice
    Hey I don't know where to get the amazing selling free but I know where you can download for $500.
    But I'd rather get DsDomination if I was doing amazon
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    • Profile picture of the author TrafficTrader
      We have a few ASM graduates as clients.

      They all rave about the course. I have not taken it so cannot comment directly about the course or its tools.

      But we have found a solid traffic and ranking strategy for these ASM graduates. So this may be an alternative strategy for you.

      We run RTB ad campaigns for them directing highly targeted traffic to their store, and then let Amazon do the retargeting.

      Our most recent client saw their store go from a #14 rank on Amazon to #3 in just 11 days.

      The ranking change alone had a dramatic effect on their sales (not to mention the targeted traffic)

      To do that we utilized:

      Site Targeting: (used WhatRunsWhere to compile a site list of where similar e-commerce sites were getting their prime traffic from and displayed only on those sites.)

      Geo-Targeting: US only based on sales data of their product from retail store fronts.

      Zip Code Targeting: this gave us a demographic overlay without the big data surcharges.

      Contextual Targeting: we got some decent traffic from blogs.

      Search Engine Query: allowed us to get some of the short tail keywords in the campaign too.

      Just like the SEO algos, the Amazon algos love traffic from campaigns.

      I thought I would share this strategy with you in case you didn't want to drop the $4,000 and instead invest in some RTB traffic from a platform like SiteScout.
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      • Profile picture of the author hustler101
        Originally Posted by TrafficTrader View Post

        We have a few ASM graduates as clients.

        They all rave about the course. I have not taken it so cannot comment directly about the course or its tools.

        But we have found a solid traffic and ranking strategy for these ASM graduates. So this may be an alternative strategy for you.

        We run RTB ad campaigns for them directing highly targeted traffic to their store, and then let Amazon do the retargeting.

        Our most recent client saw their store go from a #14 rank on Amazon to #3 in just 11 days.

        The ranking change alone had a dramatic effect on their sales (not to mention the targeted traffic)

        To do that we utilized:

        Site Targeting: (used WhatRunsWhere to compile a site list of where similar e-commerce sites were getting their prime traffic from and displayed only on those sites.)

        Geo-Targeting: US only based on sales data of their product from retail store fronts.

        Zip Code Targeting: this gave us a demographic overlay without the big data surcharges.

        Contextual Targeting: we got some decent traffic from blogs.

        Search Engine Query: allowed us to get some of the short tail keywords in the campaign too.

        Just like the SEO algos, the Amazon algos love traffic from campaigns.

        I thought I would share this strategy with you in case you didn't want to drop the $4,000 and instead invest in some RTB traffic from a platform like SiteScout.
        Great, I never heard of RTB traffic from Sitescout.

        So you're basically using PPC and Media buying banner ads ?
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        • Profile picture of the author TrafficTrader
          Originally Posted by hustler101 View Post

          Great, I never heard of RTB traffic from Sitescout.

          So you're basically using PPC and Media buying banner ads ?
          RTB is based on CPM as opposed to CPC. But the premise is the same.

          The key is to target the right prospect at the right time with the right message. Those are the ones that have the highest probability of converting.

          Then any increase in ranking from the dramatic peak in traffic is a side benefit.
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    • Profile picture of the author montys
      @knice - where can I buy ASM for $500? Also what is DsDomination?

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
        Originally Posted by montys View Post

        @knice - where can I buy ASM for $500? Also what is DsDomination?

        Thanks
        I'm afraid ASM5 is now closed. Unfortunately you cannot buy it.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustler101
    Overall Amazing Selling Machine was a great course. Probably the BEST SEO course I've ever taken. I never heard of the 'Proven Amazon Course', but would be interested in taking a look into it and even purchasing it. Offcurse if I was a competitor of ASM I would be knocking down their strategy as well while promoting my own, it's just a business practice. Althought I can't judge since I haven't seen the PAC course.

    Has anybody here actually taken the Amazing Selling Machine course? And would you be willing to share in detail what these tools do exactly? Or if you use any other tools to promote your amazon products, please do share!
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  • Originally Posted by hustler101 View Post

    I just finished studying the Amazing Selling Machine course which teaches about how to sell on amazon

    Amazing Academy | Official Site
    Real 7-Figure Business | Amazing Selling Machine

    They have a few tools that are introduced in their later stages, which are custom developed by the company founders based on their amazon business model, which includes the following

    Press release tool: (provided with the membership)
    UB: URL Booster tool: (provided with the membership)
    Promotion tool: (Provided in the member's area)
    Video tool: (Provided in your member's area)
    Traffic Robot: (Provided in your member's area)

    The issue I'm facing is that I don't have their 4000$ membership and I already watched all the videos. I watched and documented it from a friend's account, but now I don't have access to the tools and it's a bummer.

    Are there any alternatives to their custom designed tools? or do I need to pay them 4000$ for it's access?
    Press release tool ( It sounds useless)
    UB ( It can be done manually) Not a big isse
    Promotion Tool ( Pretty vague) Use amazon instead
    Video Tool: (I cant figure out how it is related to Selling on Amazon)
    Traffic Robot : ( Find some real traffic)

    All these tools are almost useless.
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    • Profile picture of the author erickz
      Yes, the tools are useless. I don't use them, they are there just to make the impression that they are adding more value to the course. You can find better options to replace these tools online. Only newbies are attracted to these tools. LOL

      Press release tool: (provided with the membership)
      UB: URL Booster tool: (provided with the membership)
      Promotion tool: (Provided in the member's area)
      Video tool: (Provided in your member's area)
      Traffic Robot: (Provided in your member's area)
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  • Profile picture of the author CreativeWest
    Right, let's get straight to the point, what type of business do you want to run.

    a) your own brand - 3-5mths sourcing & 7-10mths for traction with high margins
    b) a retailer selling named brands - traction in 3-5mths with medium revenue
    c) a dropshipper selling all brands - traction in 1-2mths with low revenue
    d) an affiliate selling all brands - traction immediate but very low revenue

    Hybrid a/b - this is how Saks, Amazon, Walmart run selling brands and replacing top selling brands with their own in-house.

    ASM fits in the a) category along with Shopify. If you want to run a true retailer you need better software such as Magento. How do you gain exposure, via time or volume. Running your own brand you will have limited volume of products so you need to market it senseless. If you have a large number of branded products your marketing is made easier as it's picked up automatically, your own in-house products then gain exposure automatically where you generate high margins, think Kindle.

    Let's look at the primary function of the site, Shopify will be niche own brand such as boutique fashion. ASM will be own brand but you need to be in the top 5% otherwise it's a negative ROI. A retailer selling named products has sourcing issues however there some categories where it's easier to gain traction, this also applies to dropshippers and affiliates. As you go from a -> d your product volume increases so you need more automation, however your risk goes down along with your revenue.

    Are there alternatives to ASM, yes, Shopify which has the same average revenue per employee targeting own brand ~$40,000 per year (the ASM quoted figures are all over the place from $3k to $32k per employee revenue but we'll take their maximum for fairness). You will on average however have a 7-10mth lead time to revenue for own brand up to a 3-5yr window before you turn profitable unless you already have experience which obviously shortcuts the time but then you wouldn't need support.

    What we have been advised via via by the best minds who support the largest retailers business processes and technology is to launch a b/c store for immediate revenues and sales volumes while you work outwards towards the own brand and affiliates. You will have a much higher success rate than the ~5% you get with own brand. If you have a passion for designing your own products then it makes more sense to start with a) and something like Shopify.

    We're taking the advice and starting with b/c and working outwards, the advantage is that the kickstarter auto lists our products on their Affiliate sites and has manufacturer agreements for various sectors giving extra traction so in effect we get b/c out of the gate and fast-tracked a/d all with different maturing timeframes.

    Google know how all this works, in all cases a) is a time centric business meaning your success is directly proportionate to the amount of time you put in, the tools just try and hide that fact, and in most cases fail, hence why those businesses have a huge failure rate.
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    • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
      Originally Posted by CreativeWest View Post

      Right, let's get straight to the point, what type of business do you want to run.

      a) your own brand - 3-5mths sourcing & 7-10mths for traction with high margins
      b) a retailer selling named brands - traction in 3-5mths with medium revenue
      c) a dropshipper selling all brands - traction in 1-2mths with low revenue
      d) an affiliate selling all brands - traction immediate but very low revenue

      Hybrid a/b - this is how Saks, Amazon, Walmart run selling brands and replacing top selling brands with their own in-house.

      ASM fits in the a) category along with Shopify. If you want to run a true retailer you need better software such as Magento. How do you gain exposure, via time or volume. Running your own brand you will have limited volume of products so you need to market it senseless. If you have a large number of branded products your marketing is made easier as it's picked up automatically, your own in-house products then gain exposure automatically where you generate high margins, think Kindle.

      Let's look at the primary function of the site, Shopify will be niche own brand such as boutique fashion. ASM will be own brand but you need to be in the top 5% otherwise it's a negative ROI. A retailer selling named products has sourcing issues however there some categories where it's easier to gain traction, this also applies to dropshippers and affiliates. As you go from a -> d your product volume increases so you need more automation, however your risk goes down along with your revenue.

      Are there alternatives to ASM, yes, Shopify which has the same average revenue per employee targeting own brand ~$40,000 per year (the ASM quoted figures are all over the place from $3k to $32k per employee revenue but we'll take their maximum for fairness). You will on average however have a 7-10mth lead time to revenue for own brand up to a 3-5yr window before you turn profitable unless you already have experience which obviously shortcuts the time but then you wouldn't need support.

      What we have been advised via via by the best minds who support the largest retailers business processes and technology is to launch a b/c store for immediate revenues and sales volumes while you work outwards towards the own brand and affiliates. You will have a much higher success rate than the ~5% you get with own brand. If you have a passion for designing your own products then it makes more sense to start with a) and something like Shopify.

      We're taking the advice and starting with b/c and working outwards, the advantage is that the kickstarter auto lists our products on their Affiliate sites and has manufacturer agreements for various sectors giving extra traction so in effect we get b/c out of the gate and fast-tracked a/d all with different maturing timeframes.

      Google know how all this works, in all cases a) is a time centric business meaning your success is directly proportionate to the amount of time you put in, the tools just try and hide that fact, and in most cases fail, hence why those businesses have a huge failure rate.
      I'm afraid you are completely wrong regarding ASM, both in your thinking about how long things take and about revenue per employee numbers (in actual fact ASM only has a small handful of employees, i'm assuming you mean revenue per student?).

      It's important that people get correct information if they are considering purchasing ASM (or another course) therefore i am correcting the inaccuracies.

      I have a thriving ASM business and been inside ASM a long time. I have access to the numbers. Furthermore, I actively coach incoming ASMers completely through the training process and seen a very large number of them go onto build significant businesses.

      In other words, I have the true facts at my finger tips that you don't.

      For the sake of brevity, let's just take a few of your inaccuracies.

      1. ASM does not take 3-5 months sourcing products. In fact it takes the average ASMer much less time than this. This is because there is highly specific training and criteria guidance to newcomers. This greatly accelerates their learning and performance drive. In addition this training comes at the very beginning of the whole programme. The issues of product selection and sourcing are taken care of fast!

      In fact it took me just 4 weeks to identify and source my first product. My second product took even less (as i had gained more experience). I can tell you that most ASMers have identified and sourced their products somewhere between 4-8 weeks.

      2. Traction, to use your term, varies. It varies depending on the student, the product selected, their preponderance towards entrepreneurship, the source of the product, the time of year, and a whole lot more too complicated to go into here.

      Having said that, I can see that you like to try and jam things into little boxes despite the fact they don't fit. So I can tell you that a significant number of ASMers have gained traction within only 2-3 months. I certainly did. Many of the ASMers i have coached did too. But it varies, sometimes a lot.

      Incidentally, my definition of traction is the gaining of sales that are greater than the cost of the course and not simply the beginning of revenue generation.

      3. You absolutely do not need to be in the top 5% to get a positive ROI. Quite frankly this is utterly preposterous. Yet again, i have access to data that you don't. To be completely simplistic about it, previous ASMers had to spend approx $4k for the course. Many of them have profits of more than this with about 10 weeks only. Their ROIs are positive quickly.

      4. Your figures for ASM revenues 'per employee' are way off. I have mentioned this to you before in another thread on the forum and explained to you HOW and WHY they are off. Don't think there is any point in discussing this point further, again i have access to data that you do not.
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      Originally Posted by CreativeWest View Post


      a) your own brand - 3-5mths sourcing & 7-10mths for traction with high margins
      b) a retailer selling named brands - traction in 3-5mths with medium revenue
      c) a dropshipper selling all brands - traction in 1-2mths with low revenue
      d) an affiliate selling all brands - traction immediate but very low revenue
      I do private label using my own hybrid method combining ASM stuff, Jim Cockrum's stuff, and other ideas I cooked up myself. Took me about a month to identify my first product and find a manufacturer, working on it for 2-3 hours 5 nights a week. Times got shorter after that. I released the product about a month before Thanksgiving, so I was able to get traction very quickly on the Christmas rush.
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  • Profile picture of the author CreativeWest
    It's all very clear that ASM affiliates receive 50% of the signup fee, but this is about the tools to make a business successful not any particular product. Again, you are disagreeing with Amazing.com's own statistics (13,622 students at $36m/mth) and the Forbes article about ASM (14,000 students at $100m over 2yrs). If you have a problem with the officially quoted figures you should take it up with them or have them publish revised stats, that's business 101.

    Only the irrational can expect people to buy a $5,000 product based on information that contradicts officially quoted figures to the upside, especially when the official figures match the exact positioning of the product compared to solutions such as Shopify or other SaaS platforms.

    This is however about the tools for a startup, and that is very simple, as own brand products are time focused the tools are only a minor part of the picture so pick the best you can afford and concentrate on working out how to make more time available aligning with the top 5% who succeeded as those business models have a 95% attrition rate. For marketing the standard is 8% of revenue and Amazon.com use 4%, then you break that down by this https://www.custora.com/pulse/channel for each channel. That is how you save time and what the smart money does, use the standard metrics the best minds have provided (Forbes, Gartner, Custora).

    However there is still 92-96% of the revenue that needs to be covered from product sourcing to profit margin calculations to technology setup and so on. Which is why, no matter what anyone says, especially those with a vested interest, the standard metrics from the smart minds quote a 95% attrition rate, that 50% of all online revenue is generated by the top 5% and that most small business startups are in the $30-50k per year per employee revenue range of which most small business services and the tools are targeted.
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    • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
      Originally Posted by CreativeWest View Post

      It's all very clear that ASM affiliates receive 50% of the signup fee, but this is about the tools to make a business successful not any particular product. Again, you are disagreeing with Amazing.com's own statistics (13,622 students at $36m/mth) and the Forbes article about ASM (14,000 students at $100m over 2yrs). If you have a problem with the officially quoted figures you should take it up with them or have them publish revised stats, that's business 101.

      Only the irrational can expect people to buy a $5,000 product based on information that contradicts officially quoted figures to the upside, especially when the official figures match the exact positioning of the product compared to solutions such as Shopify or other SaaS platforms.

      This is however about the tools for a startup, and that is very simple, as own brand products are time focused the tools are only a minor part of the picture so pick the best you can afford and concentrate on working out how to make more time available aligning with the top 5% who succeeded as those business models have a 95% attrition rate. For marketing the standard is 8% of revenue and Amazon.com use 4%, then you break that down by this https://www.custora.com/pulse/channel for each channel. That is how you save time and what the smart money does, use the standard metrics the best minds have provided (Forbes, Gartner, Custora).

      However there is still 92-96% of the revenue that needs to be covered from product sourcing to profit margin calculations to technology setup and so on. Which is why, no matter what anyone says, especially those with a vested interest, the standard metrics from the smart minds quote a 95% attrition rate, that 50% of all online revenue is generated by the top 5% and that most small business startups are in the $30-50k per year per employee revenue range of which most small business services and the tools are targeted.
      LOL

      I have no idea why you continue this track. As i've told you before (and it can be checked by anyone by going to Amazing.com)... Amazing.com is NOT ASM. It is a site that sells courses. Only one of those courses is ASM.

      There are, in fact, at present, EIGHT (8) course being sold on the site. The figure you quote is for ALL the courses not ASM alone. The figure you quote is way more than double, in terms of ASM students. I know because I am on the inside of ASM and can see the figures (and I can also see them for some of the other courses too).

      For the second, or is it third, time your market analysis is completely and fundamentally flawed. But it's okay I know you are genuinely trying to be helpful.

      Good luck with your ventures.
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  • Profile picture of the author CreativeWest
    Shall we just cut through the marketing hyperbole (cool word). ASM is a set of concepts to generate a business, however this is where the interesting part arises. As it is open to interpretation you will have concentration to the top of success vs failure, this occurs in any industry and strategy using concepts as their basis.

    So where is the true value, experience however with experience you need trust as you need to follow the smart money. That means you need access to the knowledge at the top, however if there is no entry criteria then how do you know you are talking to the 'knowledge' and not someone selling air. This causes a dilution effect and as with all communities it runs as fast as the lowest common denominator. Some will break out which is where the 95% failure vs 5% success comes in.

    The hedge fund sends out this information (they fund the eCommerce rollouts) which filters it's way down to us.

    “I don’t think trading strategies are as vulnerable to not working if people know about them, as most traders believe. If what you are doing is right, it will work even if people have a general idea about it. I always say you could publish rules in a newspaper and no one would follow them. The key is consistency and discipline.” - Richard Dennis

    The Turtles were taught an set of methodologies with the key being that they had exact rules to follow, based on this there was a 95% success rate. Many people tried to mimic the published strategies mostly with failure. Therein lies the difference, an open concept will always have a 5%/95% success/failure rate regardless of industry, a closed exacting methodology will always have a 95%/5% success/failure rate as it's not open to interpretation. The difference is that the methodology will either only allow the best of the best and/or give people a chance but remove them rapidly if under performing, the concept allows anyone. This is built in to business economics.

    eCommerce follows the same rules, the group we have access to, the lead architects are the ones who design the strategic architecture for the multi-nationals and their marketplaces that ASM uses to generate the strategies to the open public. One of their clients has a per employee revenue of $4.5m per year.

    It still comes back to the fact that Forbes interviewed Matt Clark and the quoted figure is $100m revenue over 2yrs on 14,000 students which is $3,500/yr average per employee revenue. You then have to ask yourself this, does the selling party gain anything from your ongoing success via a one-time payment. The smart money makes sure that they take a cut of your profits for the privilege of having access to their experience ie. Turtles.

    If you can extract the information from the mass of hopefuls then you may be on to something. We don't bother, they tell us what to do, we do it, and it falls in to place, if there are problems it filters it's way up the chain until it's solved. However the downside, we were told a few months back a $multi-million retailer was asked to leave the architecture as they were under performing. It's based on the Yoox Group model who just purchased Net-A-Porter, they run Prada, D&G and other luxury brands taking 40% of the retailer revenue so there's precedent involved.

    A 95% success rate is "this is what you do, here's is the infrastructure, now follow it exactly, you can interpret when we've made our investment back and you know what you are doing", a 5% success rate is "this is the concept, now go try and replicate it, we've made our revenue so we'll make sure your supported enough to bring in the next member"!

    Anyone selling the 5/95 concept approach will always have to have the last word, they don't have the luxury of asking people to leave the community. But's on the plus side in the long term it's cheap if you can break in to the 5% and it may just given you some motivation, think of it like a gym membership where 95% of clubs have a 30% or greater attrition rate each year.

    http://www.ptdirect.com/images/perso...ning-attrition

    The conclusion is very simple, you get what you pay for but it's not what you know, it's who you know. Gain direct access to that knowledge and the world is your oyster, spend time with the wrong people and those dreams stay just that plus you just lost your investment and more importantly, your time.

    Concepts are heavily marketed - ~95% options - driven by your time - 5% success - easy entry

    Methodologies are word of mouth - ~5% options - driven by your revenue - 95% success - difficult entry

    *The graph is the standard bell curve in finance, all the interesting stuff happens at the fat tails, the 5%s!
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  • Profile picture of the author CreativeWest
    However, you need this to make it all glue together, there are two types of methodologies. Concepts are the left side of the bell curve, non-transferable methodologies are the peak, transferable methodologies are the right side of the bell curve. It’s all about revenue vs time.



    Concepts are a framework, you need to generate your own non-transferable methodologies from it, this covers all training programs including ASM. Non-transferable methodologies are just that, for whatever personal or business reason or simply that the person cannot put the exact rules on paper to be reproduced, this covers successful ASMers. Transferable methodologies are a list of rules to follow allowing income generation for all parties involved with limited risk, used by the large multi-nationals and billionaires.

    Those using transferable methodologies understand themselves and both non-transferable and concepts, those using non-transferable methodologies sometimes understand themselves but understand concepts, concepts are always looking for direction.

    For example, if you generate $10k revenue per month on Amazon marketplace you will be paying $1,500/mth referral fee, did you know that you can rank products on Google next to Amazon & eBay using a transferable methodology cluster hosting architecture costing the same. Did you know that Amazon have a 30% gross profit margin undercutting almost all other retailers, that their average marketing budget is only 4% of revenue and that their average ppc cost is under $1 but have a customer lifetime value in the $1,000s. With transferable methodologies you not only learn that information, you are also provided the architecture to offset it.

    The core difference between non-transferable & transferable methodologies, months to years compared to days to weeks to launch a business. To measure something you need two reference points, with concepts and non-transferable methodologies you don’t know what you are measuring, with transferable you do. In the end, money makes money! There’s nothing wrong buying in to a concept, but there is if you’re buying in to one which is sold as a transferable methodology. We use transferable methodologies daily and can very clearly state, ASM just doesn't come close, you will only find them at companies like Rocket Internet, Consortium Internet or Yoox Group!
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    There are none of the tools are available for sell. The easy and genuine process of selling through website is good and also profitable.
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  • Profile picture of the author Excellance
    There's a lot of free content online if you just google how to private label on Amazon. I think with courses these days, it's all recycled. You can find it anywhere. Wouldn't it be better to purchase your first shipment with that $4000?
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    • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
      Originally Posted by Excellance View Post

      There's a lot of free content online if you just google how to private label on Amazon. I think with courses these days, it's all recycled. You can find it anywhere. Wouldn't it be better to purchase your first shipment with that $4000?
      You are correct, there is a lot of information around. But I can absolutely assure you that the lion's share of strategy, methods and tactics of ASM are not available elsewhere.
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    following :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Ravenvox
    Guys, I bought a copy of ASM 2015 but I'm too busy into other stuff that I still didn't take any action... It have all the video modules, the interviews, the hangouts, PDF files... I'm willing to sell my copy at a fraction of the price if anyone is interested. Just add me on skype: support.1000appreviews .
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    • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
      Originally Posted by dhollings View Post

      Amazon is hot hot hot!

      ...it is quite complimentary to ASM. Same skill-set required, just safer, less costly and faster profits.

      Sorry but this is NOT complimentary with ASM at all.

      It is, in fact, the complete opposite.

      You clearly have not understood the core essence of ASM which is to create a brand that is unique and that will return much greater levels of profit margin (not a service that seeks to sell somebody else's product and thus dramatically reducing your profit margin).
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  • Profile picture of the author FBA Lifestyle
    ASM is an awesome course for those left wondering...learnt everything we know and the proof is in the bank fortnightly.....sure it cost 4k or whatever but id be still a struggling internet marketer if it wasn't for a step by step program that they provided.

    If you purchased ASM and put in the effort you WILL be successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author DontSleep
    Hey, I was wondering whether if you submit a press release about your Amazon products, do you link to the product or do you only try to rank for keywords+brand name?

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
      Originally Posted by DontSleep View Post

      Hey, I was wondering whether if you submit a press release about your Amazon products, do you link to the product or do you only try to rank for keywords+brand name?

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      You should try and link twice from a press release.

      Once directly to your amazon listing. The other to your brand website (or sometimes directly to your product page on your brand website).

      This is the 'standard' approach. But it depends upon your objectives.

      Hope this helps.

      Good luck with your venture.
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