Best Amazon Private Label Course?

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Hello!

I have been looking at starting with Amazon private label products, and I've been researching some of the (many) different courses out there.

I'm wondering if anyone might have some any recommendation about the top courses for Amazon private label products.

Many thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
    I haven't come across one yet that provides enough information that is adequate or equal to several years of experience in selling private label products or self manufactured products.
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  • Profile picture of the author andrejka007
    I also wish there was a course (or a book) on this subject specifically for non-US residents. Maybe I'll write it myself once I learn everything. ;-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Hermes Urbanus
      Originally Posted by andrejka007 View Post

      I also wish there was a course (or a book) on this subject specifically for non-US residents. Maybe I'll write it myself once I learn everything. ;-)
      Again, I've not taken this course, either. But everyone who's anyone in eCommerce knows who Barrington McIntosh is... That guy gave selling on Amazon a whole new meaning (and he did it while living in Jamaica!) I don't think he's ever even been to the U.S. and he is one of Amazon's greatest success stories.

      Anyways, he has some type of course for non-U.S. sellers (like himself) who wanted to get started. It's at http://getonaz.com/ and I know that he also has weekly podcast videos on Spreecast. Just Google his name ( Barrington McIntosh )and you'll find his videos and all kinds of other stuff. Hope it helps!
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      • Profile picture of the author Trinipirate
        Everything I've learned was free of charge on youtube. My product is selling/profiting currently. I'm in the US
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        • Profile picture of the author Hermes Urbanus
          Originally Posted by Trinipirate View Post

          Everything I've learned was free of charge on youtube. My product is selling/profiting currently. I'm in the US
          That's great to hear! However, not everyone is going to be as astute or as proficient as you were at learning things. Which is why this is a great opportunity for you to pass on some of what you have learned to some of the others outside of the U.S. trying to do something similar. (You actually can help people without giving away all of your secrets or endangering your profits.)

          You had to learn from someone else in the beginning, and here's a chance for someone else to learn from you (if you're willing to share information with them the same way someone shared it with you.)

          Congratulations on your success!
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          • Profile picture of the author Trinipirate
            Originally Posted by Hermes Urbanus View Post

            That's great to hear! However, not everyone is going to be as astute or as proficient as you were at learning things. Which is why this is a great opportunity for you to pass on some of what you have learned to some of the others outside of the U.S. trying to do something similar. (You actually can help people without giving away all of your secrets or endangering your profits.)

            You had to learn from someone else in the beginning, and here's a chance for someone else to learn from you (if you're willing to share information with them the same way someone shared it with you.)

            Congratulations on your success!
            Honestly, I wouldn't be able to help someone outside the US get set up. But I can point someone to the videos that have helped me get the jist of sellng private label on amazon.
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            • Profile picture of the author JamesF
              I self taught myself from blogs...

              It's actually really easy once you know how to source and get your products and the rules of Amazon FBA..

              Then it's just marketing..
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              • Profile picture of the author Importexport
                Originally Posted by JamesF View Post

                I self taught myself from blogs...

                It's actually really easy once you know how to source and get your products and the rules of Amazon FBA..

                Then it's just marketing..
                Most people have very little idea how to go about safe sourcing if they are importing.

                I have reviewed numerous blogs dealing with sourcing and importing and found that they are loaded with misinformation and obsolete information.
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              Would you mind pointing them out?
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  • Profile picture of the author Hermes Urbanus
    Originally Posted by Asafs View Post

    Hello!

    I have been looking at starting with Amazon private label products, and I've been researching some of the (many) different courses out there.

    I'm wondering if anyone might have some any recommendation about the top courses for Amazon private label products.

    Many thanks
    I know that this is the site my cousin used to get himself going. http://provenprivatelabel.com/
    (That's not an affiliate link, just the main website for the course.)

    From what I understand, that is just the sales page. Apparently the course has a whole different website where they teach and operate from

    I'm not at that stage in my business goals yet, but when I do get there (hopefully later this year) I will be using that course myself. Hope it helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author hbennick
    I have heard good things about Jim Cockrum's stuff, and I participate in his Facebook group. I went through ASM for free - lots of good info, but I'm not sure I would have wanted to pay $3k for it. You can also hop on my Facebook group, which is linked in my signature. Shameless self promotion.....
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    • Profile picture of the author DWaters
      Originally Posted by hbennick View Post

      I have heard good things about Jim Cockrum's stuff, and I participate in his Facebook group.
      Yes I agree, Jim Cockrum's products are excellent and his Amazon selling forum has been very helpful for me. He came out with a private label product a while back. I expect that if you check it out you will find it very useful.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lipipaliwal
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    Well, the best way to get more information about the Amazon Private label is YouTube, by which you can easily enhance your knowledge level. Apart from this, you can go with Amazing Selling Machine, but it is paid service.
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    • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
      Originally Posted by Lipipaliwal View Post

      Well, the best way to get more information about the Amazon Private label is YouTube, by which you can easily enhance your knowledge level. Apart from this, you can go with Amazing Selling Machine, but it is paid service.
      This is actually not a bad tactic. Certainly have a good look at all amazon and FBA related video on YouTube to get a little bit of a feel for things.

      However, of course, the information on YouTube cannot be in any way a substitute for learning the whole gamut of online business as it relates to amazon and fba, and cannot give you the specific process to create, maintain and develop to ensure your amazon business is as successful as those who have gone through ASM. Neither can it guide you through the numerous pitfalls.

      But, at some level, i guess you already realise that.

      I've coached a large number of new ASMers through the complete course, over the space of a couple of months. I can tell you that there are many challenges but nothing that can't be overcome with the right process and right guidance.

      If you need any further information, or if you have questions, then just message me. I will give you straight answers to anything you want to find out about.

      Good luck with your future.
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      • Profile picture of the author faith22
        Originally Posted by ZanyZebra View Post

        This is actually not a bad tactic. Certainly have a good look at all amazon and FBA related video on YouTube to get a little bit of a feel for things.

        However, of course, the information on YouTube cannot be in any way a substitute for learning the whole gamut of online business as it relates to amazon and fba, and cannot give you the specific process to create, maintain and develop to ensure your amazon business is as successful as those who have gone through ASM. Neither can it guide you through the numerous pitfalls.

        But, at some level, i guess you already realise that.

        I've coached a large number of new ASMers through the complete course, over the space of a couple of months. I can tell you that there are many challenges but nothing that can't be overcome with the right process and right guidance.

        If you need any further information, or if you have questions, then just message me. I will give you straight answers to anything you want to find out about.

        Good luck with your future.

        Thanks for offering to help, my quest to you is:- do I need to register my brand with any reg sources to do amazon private labeling? if not what is the EXACT procedure here, do I just hire somebody to design a logo and then send it to my China supplier? thanks for your replies.
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        • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
          Originally Posted by faith22 View Post

          Thanks for offering to help, my quest to you is:- do I need to register my brand with any reg sources to do amazon private labeling?... .
          No you do not need to register your brand in order to sell on amazon.

          There is a process on the inside called brand registry but it is not compulsory to do so.

          Good luck with your venture.
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          • Profile picture of the author karebear
            I would suggest that you use brand registry on Amazon for your brand. That will give you some security. Trademarking your brand as well is essential and necessary if you are planning on growing in Amazon and beyond into the retail chain stores. I have been sourcing and importing and PL for the big chains for 35 years and protecting your products and brands are of utmost importance.
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  • Profile picture of the author DWaters
    Originally Posted by Asafs View Post

    Hello!

    I have been looking at starting with Amazon private label products, and I've been researching some of the (many) different courses out there.

    I'm wondering if anyone might have some any recommendation about the top courses for Amazon private label products.

    Many thanks
    IMO starting with private label products is overly ambitious. It is like a person who has never exercised, never jogged around the block and they decise to enter a marathon as their first road race.

    My suggestion is to start small, get your feet wet in the FBA business. Once you learn how to run an FBA business then add private label products to your inventory. Just my suggestion...
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  • Profile picture of the author tyrannosaurus rex
    I just joined. I see no way of starting a new thread. I am a member of a dozen internet forums. They all have a button "New Thread." Is this a state secret? Do I have to pay a fee to post a question? Why is this so hard to find? What is the trick to posting a question? What is the Meaning of Life?


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    Hi T-Rex,

    I don't think I can help with the meaning of life but I may be able to help with the new thread question. There is a new thread button but you will not see it when you are actually in a thread.

    Try going to Quick Links >> Today's Post. From the right column select a specific forum section to visit. There you should see the New Thread button at the top left of the list of recent posts. It is black.

    Welcome to the WF. I expect you will find it to be very helpful and informative. The search feature is very useful and great for finding just what you need.
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    • Profile picture of the author tyrannosaurus rex
      Originally Posted by DWaters View Post

      Hi T-Rex,

      I don't think I can help with the meaning of life but I may be able to help with the new thread question. There is a new thread button but you will not see it when you are actually in a thread.

      Try going to Quick Links >> Today's Post. From the right column select a specific forum section to visit. There you should see the New Thread button at the top left of the list of recent posts. It is black.

      Welcome to the WF. I expect you will find it to be very helpful and informative. The search feature is very useful and great for finding just what you need.




      Thanks. I did that, but can't find the forum I want. I specifically need help with Fulfillment by Amazon. What do I do. Thanks. TR
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      • Profile picture of the author hbennick
        You are in the correct subforum.

        eCommerce Sites, Wholesaling & Drop Shipping

        It's the catchall for Amazon, FBA, eBay, drop ship, Alibaba, etc....

        Originally Posted by tyrannosaurus rex View Post



        Thanks. I did that, but can't find the forum I want. I specifically need help with Fulfillment by Amazon. What do I do. Thanks. TR
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        • Profile picture of the author tyrannosaurus rex
          Thank you very much. I'll paste my question.




          I am a leading expert in my field, and I plan to self publish a book. I want to sell this through FBA. I have tried but cannot cut through the amorphous maze of info on Amazon. I need an accurate estimate of the per book cost to me. Here are the specs. Eight and a half by eleven - 200 pages - three quarters inch thick - spiral bound - one and a half pounds - thirty dollars.





          I tried using the Amazon Fee Calculator - Huh? What? I typed in the first entry - cover price, and the whole calculator disappeared. Then I saw that even if you don't type anything in it just disappears. I don't get it. In any case, I can't figure out what my fees will be. From some other Amazon charts it seems that my book falls under the category of Large Standard.





          So far I see there is a fee for picking and packing - storage - some kind of final closing fee - handling fee - commission, and I don't know what else. I seem to get $1.04 for Picking and Packing, and .88 for weight, which makes $1.92, but I seem to recall something about some kind of final closing fee, and who knows what else. None of this includes Amazon's commission, which I think is 15%, but not sure, and that has to be added to all fees. Can anyone please give me a close idea of my per-book cost. I plan to print twenty-five copies to start, and only sell FBA. I have a printer who will print and ship free directly to Amazon within two days, so I don't think storage costs will be a significant factor.





          Thanks for any help. It's much appreciated.





          T-Rex




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          • Profile picture of the author tyrannosaurus rex
            By the way, I might be in the right forum, but I still see no "New Thread" button anywhere. I've posted the above question as a reply, merely in desperation, since at least it will be seen, but it really should have been a new thread. TR
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          • Profile picture of the author hbennick
            Here is the Amazon FBA Calculator:
            https://sellercentral.amazon.com/gp/...TF8&lang=en_US

            I put in your rough specs, and you should expect to see about $22. I didn't count your inbound shipping in that amount, so you'll need to take that into account as well. When you sell FBA in the USA, you get a significant shipping discount using UPS ground.

            Feel free to PM me if I can be of further assistance.

            Originally Posted by tyrannosaurus rex View Post

            Thank you very much. I'll paste my question.




            I am a leading expert in my field, and I plan to self publish a book. I want to sell this through FBA. I have tried but cannot cut through the amorphous maze of info on Amazon. I need an accurate estimate of the per book cost to me. Here are the specs. Eight and a half by eleven - 200 pages - three quarters inch thick - spiral bound - one and a half pounds - thirty dollars.





            I tried using the Amazon Fee Calculator - Huh? What? I typed in the first entry - cover price, and the whole calculator disappeared. Then I saw that even if you don't type anything in it just disappears. I don't get it. In any case, I can't figure out what my fees will be. From some other Amazon charts it seems that my book falls under the category of Large Standard.





            So far I see there is a fee for picking and packing - storage - some kind of final closing fee - handling fee - commission, and I don't know what else. I seem to get $1.04 for Picking and Packing, and .88 for weight, which makes $1.92, but I seem to recall something about some kind of final closing fee, and who knows what else. None of this includes Amazon's commission, which I think is 15%, but not sure, and that has to be added to all fees. Can anyone please give me a close idea of my per-book cost. I plan to print twenty-five copies to start, and only sell FBA. I have a printer who will print and ship free directly to Amazon within two days, so I don't think storage costs will be a significant factor.





            Thanks for any help. It's much appreciated.





            T-Rex




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            • Profile picture of the author tyrannosaurus rex
              Thanks for the calculator, I tried it, but as I said, I've been there four times now, and it just disappears. Go to it yourself and wait about five seconds - it disappears, and tells you to go search for some item. I don't get it. TR
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              • Profile picture of the author tyrannosaurus rex
                And I still can't find any "New Thread" button anywhere. Is there a probationary period for new members to start a thread? Can I pay a fee for the forum to forego the probationary period? Will prayer help? Supplication?


                I certainly appreciate the responses here, but I can't help thinking that a new thread will be seen by more members, who might not necessarily be reading this particular thread.


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                • Profile picture of the author hbennick
                  Take a look at the attached image, I circled the "New Thread" button. You should see it on this page:
                  eCommerce Sites, Wholesaling & Drop Shipping


                  Originally Posted by tyrannosaurus rex View Post

                  And I still can't find any "New Thread" button anywhere. Is there a probationary period for new members to start a thread? Can I pay a fee for the forum to forego the probationary period? Will prayer help? Supplication?


                  I certainly appreciate the responses here, but I can't help thinking that a new thread will be seen by more members, who might not necessarily be reading this particular thread.


                  T-Rex
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              • Profile picture of the author hbennick
                So, you have to put in an item. I just put the word "book" into the item search box, and picked one that was close to your specs.

                Originally Posted by tyrannosaurus rex View Post

                Thanks for the calculator, I tried it, but as I said, I've been there four times now, and it just disappears. Go to it yourself and wait about five seconds - it disappears, and tells you to go search for some item. I don't get it. TR
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      • Profile picture of the author DWaters
        Originally Posted by tyrannosaurus rex View Post



        Thanks. I did that, but can't find the forum I want. I specifically need help with Fulfillment by Amazon. What do I do. Thanks. TR

        Use the search feature with "FBA" and that will provide all threads that have FBA in them. There is not a specific FBA forum section, just threads that deal with FBA
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  • Profile picture of the author SaanviRao
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    I would like to go with YouTube for learning about Amazon Private Label, because, I think , YouTube is the best way to gain knowledge about what you want to learn. I also would like to suggest everybody for YouTube.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kai Law
      If you are serious about learning about FBA, hands down the best course available is Amazing Selling machine. Its an intensive 8 week course that runs you through how to get a product selling well on amazon.

      I joined last October and have been doing about 5 figures every month since January. Check out this interview where I talk about my success.

      To learn more about it you can check it out here: Amazing.com | Amazing Selling Machine

      They will be relaunching the course again soon if you are interested, feel free to private message me for more details.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrbenz
    The Bestest Amazon FBA course is soon opening its doors and this may be the last one. I bought this course in October, 2014 and this is the first serious course I invested in. The money was very well-worth it. I am already making $5000 in sales. This result can be achieved a lot faster if you put in more hours.
    There are many other Amazon courses, ebooks, youtube videos, etc., but what makes this course unique is that it is extremely easy to follow. The course content is structured in a step-by-step fashion and you will not even notice that you are already running your business after a few steps. What's more is that this program has students from more all over the world. Every single detail is taught in a precise way and because there are so many details, facts, questions, information about being an Amazon seller, other courses out there, not to even mention ebooks, can cover such a comprehensive content.

    This course is definitely for not everyone. However, if you are spending any money about learning how to become an Amazon Seller, this is the course to invest in. I had zero online business experience prior to this course. Private Label Physical Products Business
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    • Profile picture of the author panorama
      Originally Posted by mrbenz View Post

      The Bestest Amazon FBA course is soon opening its doors and this may be the last one.
      As an existing ASM member, I'm sure you know that this is likely not the last time the course will be available. It may not be in the same launch format as it has been in the past, but it will still be available for purchase.

      I seriously don't understand why people can't just be truthful. ASM is a great course that changed my life too, so at least be honest about it.
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      • Profile picture of the author mrbenz
        Originally Posted by panorama View Post

        As an existing ASM member, I'm sure you know that this is likely not the last time the course will be available. It may not be in the same launch format as it has been in the past, but it will still be available for purchase.

        I seriously don't understand why people can't just be truthful. ASM is a great course that changed my life too, so at least be honest about it.
        I do not know and you do not know for sure either. Nobody knows what is going to happen tomorrow. That is why I used the word "may".
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          Originally Posted by mrbenz View Post

          I do not know and you do not know for sure either. Nobody knows what is going to happen tomorrow. That is why I used the word "may".
          Of course, no one knows what the future holds with absolute certainty, but it's still misleading to imply that this may be the last time it's available when there's no real basis to believe that's the case.

          I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you may have received incorrect information, but for the record it's not likely to be the last time ASM will be available.
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    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      Originally Posted by mrbenz View Post

      The Bestest Amazon FBA course is soon opening its doors and this may be the last one. I bought this course in October, 2014 and this is the first serious course I invested in. The money was very well-worth it. I am already making $5000 in sales.
      How much of that $5000 is profit? Sales figures mean nothing unless people know the profit.
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      • Profile picture of the author mrbenz
        Originally Posted by Importexport View Post

        How much of that $5000 is profit? Sales figures mean nothing unless people know the profit.
        Roughly half of it is profit.
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          Originally Posted by ZanyZebra View Post

          You are correct. Sales figures mean little without knowledge of the margin involved.

          My own ASM business has an average profit margin of 51%. This margin I have managed to build up from 43% when I started. Whenever I talk to retailers (both online and offline) they are envious of the size of margin.

          In addition, I have coached a large number of new ASMers through the course material on the inside of ASM. I've seen many of them go onto build very substantial businesses. The average profit margin for them is somewhere between 40 - 45%.

          ASM5 launches today for a brief period. If you want any more information or have difficult and awkward questions just message me. I'll give you straight answers with no BS.
          If you follow the overseas sourcing instructions, repeated in ASM5, you will struggle to make margins like that.

          This is due to the fact that the course advises the place to source supplies overseas is Alibaba.

          There is no doubt, as I have explained many times on this forum, that one of the worst places to try to find genuine manufacturers and reliable suppliers is Alibaba. Newbie ASM members who follow that advice from people who obviously have very limited knowledge of overseas sourcing and importing are potentiallylosing thousands.

          Those lost thousands can be from:
          • Scams. Scammers abound on Alibaba, and to tell gullible newbies that they can be safer by using only Gold Suppliers displays gross ignorance of the facts.
          • Traders. Traders can never give you the amazing low prices that you can get when you buy direct from the manufacturer. Profit begins with buying! You must buy right if you are to maximize profit potential.
          I recently had an ASM member buy my book because of the inadequacy of the advice on the subject of overseas sourcing in the ASM course. Possibly others have done likewise, but I know about this one because he told me.
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          • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
            Originally Posted by Importexport View Post

            If you follow the overseas sourcing instructions, repeated in ASM5, you will struggle to make margins like that.

            This is due to the fact that the course advises the place to source supplies overseas is Alibaba.

            There is no doubt, as I have explained many times on this forum, that one of the worst places to try to find genuine manufacturers and reliable suppliers is Alibaba. Newbie ASM members who follow that advice from people who obviously have very limited knowledge of overseas sourcing and importing are potentiallylosing thousands.

            Those lost thousands can be from:
            • Scams. Scammers abound on Alibaba, and to tell gullible newbies that they can be safer by using only Gold Suppliers displays gross ignorance of the facts.
            • Traders. Traders can never give you the amazing low prices that you can get when you buy direct from the manufacturer. Profit begins with buying! You must buy right if you are to maximize profit potential.
            I recently had an ASM member buy my book because of the inadequacy of the advice on the subject of overseas sourcing in the ASM course. Possibly others have done likewise, but I know about this one because he told me.
            I get that you may be trying to sell your services to others by stating your expertise. I don't know you so can't make any comment on that. But misinforming warriors, deliberately or otherwise, about ASM/Sourcing/Profits does you no good at all.

            I can tell you unequivocally that many, many ASMers sourcing from China (and other countries) make these sort of margins. Unless you are inside ASM and have access to literally hundreds of ASMers i don't know how you can possibly even claim to know!

            I coach incoming ASMers completely through their training and i have access to a lot of information. I don't know if you really 'think' you know or whether it is simply a very poor marketing ploy on your part. Either way i personally don't really care but you are misleading warriors.

            Do ASM tell you to source from Alibaba exclusively? > No.
            Does ASM teach you how to source from a huge variety of places? > Yes.
            Has there ever been difficulties sourcing from Alibaba? > Yes.
            Is it significant? > No (i can count on one hand the problems against individual orders numbering near a thousand)
            Were these handful of difficulties ever resolved? > Yes.
            Do middlemen sell on Alibaba? > Yes.
            Is this is a problem? > No (adding a $1 to product cost when you're selling at $29.99 is not significant)
            Is there an advantage to dealing with middlemen? > Yes (you can often get smaller quantities, and fast)
            I could go on and on but i wont. You get the picture.

            You are correct. There are many sourcing/profit questions to ask. But 'frightening' warriors so that you can position your service is really not a smart and transparent marketing tactic.
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            • Profile picture of the author Importexport
              Originally Posted by ZanyZebra View Post

              I get that you may be trying to sell your services to others by stating your expertise. I don't know you so can't make any comment on that. But misinforming warriors, deliberately or otherwise, about ASM/Sourcing/Profits does you no good at all.

              1 I can tell you unequivocally that many, many ASMers sourcing from China (and other countries) make these sort of margins. Unless you are inside ASM and have access to literally hundreds of ASMers i don't know how you can possibly even claim to know!

              I coach incoming ASMers completely through their training and i have access to a lot of information. I don't know if you really 'think' you know or whether it is simply a very poor marketing ploy on your part. Either way i personally don't really care but 2 you are misleading warriors.

              3 Do ASM tell you to source from Alibaba exclusively? > No.
              4 Does ASM teach you how to source from a huge variety of places? > Yes.
              5 Has there ever been difficulties sourcing from Alibaba? > Yes.
              6 Is it significant? > No (i can count on one hand the problems against individual orders numbering near a thousand)
              7Were these handful of difficulties ever resolved? > Yes.
              8 Do middlemen sell on Alibaba? > Yes.
              9 Is this is a problem? > No (adding a $1 to product cost when you're selling at $29.99 is not significant)
              10 Is there an advantage to dealing with middlemen? > Yes (you can often get smaller quantities, and fast)
              I could go on and on but i wont. You get the picture.

              You are correct. There are many sourcing/profit questions to ask. But 'frightening' warriors so that you can position your service is really not a smart and transparent marketing tactic.
              1 I can and do know all that is worth knowing about dealing with Alibaba. Many people are lucky when sourcing via the huge lottery that is called Alibaba. I have never said that is not possible.
              2 You have made the claim, but it is totally untrue and unsubstantiated.
              3 In relation to sourcing overseas it does.
              4 Yes, I did not say they do not, but for overseas buying they do. That is what I am talking about as I stated in my post.
              5 Those significant difficulties can be as significant as total loss of your money even when dealing with Gold Suppliers.
              6 Alibaba admit that 2236 Gold Suppliers have scammed buyers. And there are many other cases that I can show you.
              7 If you are one of the lucky ones who encounter a genuine and reliable supplier,, the problems will be resolved, but there are many thousands that are not. See for example ripoffreport.com.
              8 The majority of suppliers on Alibaba claiming to be manufacturers are middle men. Look for the post by Rookikan "As some post have been showed to you that many manufacturer on Alibaba.com are not real manufacturers,there are just traders,To be honest,I ever worked in a trade company but always shows the customers that I worked in a manufacturers that I can give you the lowest price."
              9 $1 margin for a middleman on a $29.99 price???? Don't make me laugh.
              10 If you know what you are doing you can buy small quantities with fast delivery direct from manufacturers. Amateurs don't know how to do it.
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              • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
                Originally Posted by Importexport View Post

                1 I can and do know all that is worth knowing about dealing with Alibaba. Many people are lucky when sourcing via the huge lottery that is called Alibaba. I have never said that is not possible.
                2 You have made the claim, but it is totally untrue and unsubstantiated.
                3 In relation to sourcing overseas it does.
                4 Yes, I did not say they do not, but for overseas buying they do. That is what I am talking about as I stated in my post.
                5 Those significant difficulties can be as significant as total loss of your money even when dealing with Gold Suppliers.
                6 Alibaba admit that 2236 Gold Suppliers have scammed buyers. And there are many other cases that I can show you.
                7 If you are one of the lucky ones who encounter a genuine and reliable supplier,, the problems will be resolved, but there are many thousands that are not. See for example ripoffreport.com.
                8 The majority of suppliers on Alibaba claiming to be manufacturers are middle men. Look for the post by Rookikan "As some post have been showed to you that many manufacturer on Alibaba.com are not real manufacturers,there are just traders,To be honest,I ever worked in a trade company but always shows the customers that I worked in a manufacturers that I can give you the lowest price."
                9 $1 margin for a middleman on a $29.99 price???? Don't make me laugh.
                10 If you know what you are doing you can buy small quantities with fast delivery direct from manufacturers. Amateurs don't know how to do it.
                LOL.

                Mr importexport 'expert' i make no claims as to your 'expertise' and your business (although you clearly think highly of yourself - "I can and do know all that is worth knowing about dealing with Alibaba"). You, on the other hand, do the exact opposite and make claims that are totally misleading regarding ASM, profit levels and its sourcing. Claims that you cannot possibly make as you are not on the inside of ASM with access to the information.

                I repeat: not only do the hundreds new ASM members make profits in the range 40%-50%, most of them do quite quickly. (I myself currently have an average profit of 53% for my amazon business). Many of them source from Alibaba with only a few ever having had issues. These were resolved to satisfaction. Many of them source from other sites too, in different countries, including USA and UK, with a similar result.

                I myself, and many of the new ASMers I coach, source from China. I have been doing so for many years. We can teach you how to do it properly if you are having so many problems achieving this.

                Once beginners get over the cultural differences in business practice, it's not hard. It's easy, providing you apply diligence and common sense. But that information is "inconvenient" if you happen to be selling a service such as your's.

                But, hey, why let the real facts get in the way of your 'marketing' spiel?

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                By the way, it's none of my business, but I would be very careful if I were you to avoid a call from Alibaba lawyers on maliciously damaging their reputation! As you well know, the 2236 suppliers that you refer to was way, way back in the very early days 2007-11. for which buyers were compensated. A very long time ago, when the company and the whole East-West trading context, was very different. They might take the legal view that you are intentionally framing them today for something in the historical past that was dealt with, and in such a negative way for your own financial gain.

                Alibaba is, in the main, a good service that did over $1,000,000,000 in wholesale business b2b in 2014. Clearly you don't get into billions of sales if you are not providing an excellent service. It's not that they have no problems, they do but they are tiny in comparison to the overall volume of transactions (just like other big companies). As I said before, we have certainly found Alibaba to be excellent with virtually no issues over a very large number of transactions.
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                • Profile picture of the author Importexport
                  I have inserted my comments within the quote so that people can see that I have answered all.
                  Originally Posted by ZanyZebra View Post

                  LOL.
                  I am pleased to note that in this new edited version of your original post you have removed your offensive and libelous language.
                  Mr importexport 'expert' i make no claims as to your 'expertise' and your business (although you clearly think highly of yourself - "I can and do know all that is worth knowing about dealing with Alibaba"). For years I have been a registered vendor on Alibaba (though I don't sell anything) and I also consistently read all the fine print. If you need to know anything about Alibaba, just ask me, as hundreds of other of people have, who know how important due diligence is when product sourcing.You, on the other hand, do the exact opposite and make claims that are totally misleading regarding ASM, I have made no claims about ASM other than the indisputable fact that they advise that for overseas sourcing, Alibaba is the place to go. profit levels I have made no claims about ASM profit levels. and its sourcing. Claims that you cannot possibly make as you are not on the inside of ASM with access to the information. You are incorrectly assuming that I have no access to the ASM information. Please say if I am wrong that ASM advise that for overseas sourcing, Alibaba is the place to go and I will provide proof.

                  I repeat: not only do the hundreds new ASM members make profits in the range 40%-50%, most of them do quite quickly. Never disputed by me (I myself currently have an average profit of 53% for my amazon business). Never disputed by me Many of them source from Alibaba with only a few ever having had issues. Never disputed by me These were resolved to satisfaction. Never disputed by me Many of them source from other sites too, in different countries, including USA and UK, with a similar result.Never disputed by me. My point was ONLY that ASM advsie that Alibaba is THE place to source overseas.

                  I myself, and many of the new ASMers I coach, source from China. I have been doing so for many years. We can teach you how to do it properly if you are having so many problems achieving this. I have been sourcing from China and other countries since 1987 after years of experience exporting to China and other countries. This is why I have been able to teach hundreds of newbies how to safely source overseas.

                  Once beginners get over the cultural differences in business practice, it's not hard. My book readers don't have to "get over the cultural differences." I teach them in simple language in my book. It's easy, providing you apply diligence and common sense. It's much easier if someone who has been there - done that teaches you instead of doing it the hard way. But that information is "inconvenient" if you happen to be selling a service such as your's.

                  But, hey, why let the real facts get in the way of your 'marketing' spiel?
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                  By the way, it's none of my business, but I would be very careful if I were you to avoid a call from Alibaba lawyers on maliciously damaging their reputation! As you well know, the 2236 suppliers that you refer to was way, way back in the very early days 2007-11. for which buyers were compensated. Alibaba's confession was made in 2011. For those readers who want to actually learn some facts, see my posts on the thread: How Trustworthy is Alibaba.com? It quotes from an Economist article headed "Alibaba and the 2236 Thieves."
                  . A very long time ago, when the company and the whole East-West trading context, was very different. They might take the legal view that you are intentionally framing them today for something in the historical past that was dealt with, and in such a negative way for your own financial gain. I agree that 2011 is a long time ago, but the scams continue today. See Ripoff Report | alibaba Search of Complaints & Reviews See also: AlibabaScam.com - Gold Supplier Scammers on Alibaba.com - Stop scammers right here! (Alibaba Bogus Manufacturer Directory - Fake Suppliers, Unknown Manufacturers, Crook Exporters & Importers) and if you think these are people trying to "maliciously damage their reputation", have a look at the huge number of complaints on Alibaba's own community forum.
                  Alibaba is, in the main, a good service that did over $1,000,000,000 in wholesale business b2b in 2014. Clearly you don't get into billions of sales if you are not providing an excellent service. Big is not necessarily better. Alibaba owe a lot of their huge traffic to the constant recommendations on forums, in blogs, and in importing/marketing programs (not only ASM) by "experts" who don't know the real facts. It's not that they have no problems, they do but they are tiny in comparison to the overall volume of transactions (just like other big companies). As I said before, we have certainly found Alibaba to be excellent with virtually no issues over a very large number of transactions. Never disputed. I repeat: The only thing I have ever said about ASM is that they teach that for overseas sourcing Alibaba is THE place to go. You have been wasting a lot of effort tilting at windmills. I have never said anything derogatory about ASM. You appear amazingly touchy.
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          • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
            Originally Posted by Importexport View Post

            If you follow the overseas sourcing instructions, repeated in ASM5, you will struggle to make margins like that.

            You - "I repeat: The only thing I have ever said about ASM is that they teach that for overseas sourcing Alibaba is THE place to go."

            Not only is that not true, it misses the point i was making completely. LOLOL.

            I'm not sure whether you are simply confused or have 'conveniently' forgotten what my original point was. I've posted it above. Post #51 in this stream.

            You said that people would struggle to achieve the levels of profit I had mentioned (ie 40-50%). I replied that this is simply not true, that I coached a large number of new ASMers completely through the ASM materials.

            I have information you do not have access too and that the above range of profits was not only achievable it is completely 'normal' within ASM to achieve this.

            That's it.
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            • Profile picture of the author Importexport
              Originally Posted by ZanyZebra View Post

              You - "I repeat: The only thing I have ever said about ASM is that they teach that for overseas sourcing Alibaba is THE place to go."

              Not only is that not true, it misses the point i was making completely. LOLOL.

              I'm not sure whether you are simply confused or have 'conveniently' forgotten what my original point was. I've posted it above. Post #51 in this stream.

              You said that people would struggle to achieve the levels of profit I had mentioned (ie 40-50%). I replied that this is simply not true, that I coached a large number of new ASMers completely through the ASM materials.

              I have information you do not have access too and that the above range of profits was not only achievable it is completely 'normal' within ASM to achieve this.

              That's it.
              You have only partially quoted my post, and missed the point that I said "Newbie ASM members who follow that advice from people who obviously have very limited knowledge of overseas sourcing and importing are potentially losing thousands."

              I have never denied that you, or your fortunate students have made the margins you claim. I do maintain however, that anyone who follows the advice in ASM5 that Alibaba is the place to source overseas can potentially lose a lot.

              Your experience and that of your students may be different, but I know from vast experience that sourcing on Alibaba is a potential wealth hazard and I have give reasons why.

              Your only argument against that is that your own experience is different. Well I have been importing since 1987 and my experience, backed up by the evidence that I have quoted, (but you choose to ignore) substantiates what I say.

              If you and your students are happy with the margins you are achieving, that's great for you, but my students report margins much higher.

              Here is an email from one: "Ok. From extremely skeptical to successful completion. Credit given where credit is due. I followed the book instructions you laid out. Took my time to double check everything and was able to successfully import an order from China. Not only that but it was also a "sample order" for less than 300.00. A 300% mark up has allowed to get initial investment back and I have 70% of my inventory left. Stop promoting your book. Your encouraging competition for me Many thanks." Email on file for FTC inspection if required.

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        • Profile picture of the author Dante Galahad
          Originally Posted by ZanyZebra View Post

          You are correct. Sales figures mean little without knowledge of the margin involved.

          My own ASM business has an average profit margin of 51%. This margin I have managed to build up from 43% when I started. Whenever I talk to retailers (both online and offline) they are envious of the size of margin.

          In addition, I have coached a large number of new ASMers through the course material on the inside of ASM. I've seen many of them go onto build very substantial businesses. The average profit margin for them is somewhere between 40 - 45%.

          ASM5 launches today for a brief period. If you want any more information or have difficult and awkward questions just message me. I'll give you straight answers with no BS.
          So tell me your take on these course
          How To Create A Profitable Online Store And Sell Online | A Course On Ecommerce

          These course also cover many aspect of building a profitable online business ranging from FBA, DS/ inventory and even PL but their price is still reasonable compare to ASM
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          • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
            Originally Posted by Dante Galahad View Post

            So tell me your take on these course
            How To Create A Profitable Online Store And Sell Online | A Course On Ecommerce

            These course also cover many aspect of building a profitable online business ranging from FBA, DS/ inventory and even PL but their price is still reasonable compare to ASM
            Dante, i'm afraid i'm not familiar with the course. Looking at the face value it is different from ASM. ASM is about building a long term online business using Amazon as the principle route to market. The course you mention looks to me as if it's focus is different and is based around building an online store that has its own website as the route to market.

            Sorry I can't be more helpful. Good luck with your venture.
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  • Profile picture of the author panorama
    In response to the original poster's question, there are a couple of good courses available in addition to ASM. It's hard to say which one is the best because their offerings are all a little different and they are available at different price points, but there are definitely more options today than there were six months ago.

    I spent a lot of time going through the various alternatives, but given that I'm an affiliate for each of them (as well as Amazing Selling Machine), I'd rather not post it here. Anyone with interest is welcome to contact me to discuss the various options.
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    You may want to check Jordan Malik's blog. A while back he posted some unbiased reviews of various FBA training courses. If I recall the topic of private labeling was part of the courses he reviewed.
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      Originally Posted by DWaters View Post

      You may want to check Jordan Malik's blog. A while back he posted some unbiased reviews of various FBA training courses. If I recall the topic of private labeling was part of the courses he reviewed.
      Jordan's view on private labeling has been so misguided and is definitely not unbiased. While he does provide good value with respect to other Amazon business models, I wouldn't rely much on what he says about private labeling at this point.
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      Originally Posted by DWaters View Post

      You may want to check Jordan Malik's blog. A while back he posted some unbiased reviews of various FBA training courses. If I recall the topic of private labeling was part of the courses he reviewed.
      Hi Dwaters, thanks for the mention.

      I am not a private label expert (I've never claimed to be one), but I do evaluate, test and filter out the most honest, thorough providers, and make recommendations to my audience. If you click on the "Free Amazon/eBay help here" link in my signature, and then click on 'resources', you'll find my best free/not free recommendations for wholesale, private label, and other Amazon/eBay seller help tools/tutorials. etc.

      For some free information by a trusted partner re: private labeling, check out the podcast and facebook page of TheAmazingSeller.com (I am not compensated in any way for referencing that page/podcast.)
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  • Profile picture of the author panorama
    The original post asked what the best private label course is. The thread has obviously become overrun by affiliates who are adding very little value to the conversation, so I'd like to make an offer:

    I'm happy to speak with anyone one-on-one to discuss any of the 5 different private label courses that I've personally reviewed in depth. I pledge to only offer non-affiliate links.

    Following the conversation, you can decide if you think I offered enough value to the purchase decision warrant earning a commission.

    I'm making this offer because I'm confident that I can provide extreme value to anyone interested in private labeling. Additionally, because I'm intimately familiar with all the major courses, I have no incentive to steer people in a direction that's not right for them.

    As you can see, I provide a personal phone number in my signature below. I speak with people interested in private labeling quite regularly.
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    • Profile picture of the author DWaters
      Originally Posted by panorama View Post

      The original post asked what the best private label course is. The thread has obviously become overrun by affiliates who are adding very little value to the conversation, so I'd like to make an offer:

      I'm happy to speak with anyone one-on-one to discuss any of the 5 different private label courses that I've personally reviewed in depth. I pledge to only offer non-affiliate links.

      Following the conversation, you can decide if you think I offered enough value to the purchase decision warrant earning a commission.

      I'm making this offer because I'm confident that I can provide extreme value to anyone interested in private labeling. Additionally, because I'm intimately familiar with all the major courses, I have no incentive to steer people in a direction that's not right for them.

      As you can see, I provide a personal phone number in my signature below. I speak with people interested in private labeling quite regularly.
      Yes that is sometimes the problem with asking certin questions here as the answers my sometimes be biased but you cannot always tell for sure.

      It is the buyer's responsibility to perform due dilligence and reseach extensively. Everyone has an opinion and you need to dig up the real facts on a topic to form your own opinion. Never take another person's opinion as gospel on the internet.
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  • Profile picture of the author bstalling48
    My post may be deleted...but you don't need a course anymore to learn about private labeling. All of the ASM tricks have been leaked..some are not as effective. However, everything is out there.

    Youtube is the premier source. In particular Ryan Moran's "The Tribe" videos is excellent. You may have to spend a couple of weeks listening to everything, but it is worth the trouble.

    Then, there are Facebook groups and Reddit. Learned everything in a few weeks and am earning profitably.

    There is just no one stop shop course that will teach you everything from bottom to top. However, I did take Ezra Firestone's Channelizer Method and learned quite a bit. He offers a double whammy because he is profitable with ecommerce, but he knows are to effectively impart knowledge to other. Matt Clark is just not a very good teacher.
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    • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
      Originally Posted by bstalling48 View Post

      My post may be deleted...but you don't need a course anymore to learn about private labeling. All of the ASM tricks have been leaked..some are not as effective. However, everything is out there.

      Youtube is the premier source. In particular Ryan Moran's "The Tribe" videos is excellent. You may have to spend a couple of weeks listening to everything, but it is worth the trouble.

      Then, there are Facebook groups and Reddit. Learned everything in a few weeks and am earning profitably.

      There is just no one stop shop course that will teach you everything from bottom to top. However, I did take Ezra Firestone's Channelizer Method and learned quite a bit. He offers a double whammy because he is profitable with ecommerce, but he knows are to effectively impart knowledge to other. Matt Clark is just not a very good teacher.
      Well, I hope they don't delete your post as it is important to state views and ask pointed questions of such a course as ASM.

      As i've said above it is simply not possible to gather information that comes anywhere near doing the ASM course. ASM is expensive, but for a very good reason. Obviously the majority of the most critical information simply is not available on free sources such as YouTube and Reddit.

      Further, the people you mention that you admire eg Ryan Moran and Ezra Firestone are on the INSIDE of ASM. And, they are on the inside for a very good reason. That reason is that they themselves are using it and making a very large income from it.

      But it is not only people like Ryan and Ezra who are using it, the vast majority who have joined are people with little or no background in online business. Or, have tried and failed several times. I've coached many of them through the whole ASM program and seen a large number go onto build significant businesses.

      I hope this helps and clarifies. If you have any questions just message me and I will give you straight answers.

      Good luck with your future.
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        Originally Posted by ZanyZebra View Post

        Well, I hope they don't delete your post as it is important to state views and ask pointed questions of such a course as ASM.

        As i've said above it is simply not possible to gather information that comes anywhere near doing the ASM course. ASM is expensive, but for a very good reason. Obviously the majority of the most critical information simply is not available on free sources such as YouTube and Reddit.

        Further, the people you mention that you admire eg Ryan Moran and Ezra Firestone are on the INSIDE of ASM. And, they are on the inside for a very good reason. That reason is that they themselves are using it and making a very large income from it.

        But it is not only people like Ryan and Ezra who are using it, the vast majority who have joined are people with little or no background in online business. Or, have tried and failed several times. I've coached many of them through the whole ASM program and seen a large number go onto build significant businesses.

        I hope this helps and clarifies. If you have any questions just message me and I will give you straight answers.

        Good luck with your future.
        I've seen the course. Nothing in it warrants special coaching..it is very straight forward. I'm guessing the majority interested need some intense hand holding or something, but anyone fairly smart about online sales will pick it up quickly.
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        • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
          Originally Posted by bstalling48 View Post

          I've seen the course. Nothing in it warrants special coaching..it is very straight forward. I'm guessing the majority interested need some intense hand holding or something, but anyone fairly smart about online sales will pick it up quickly.
          Interesting. Have you worked fully through all the material and tactics?

          You are correct, fairly smart people will pick it up quickly. And, to be clear, I coach them through the 8 week program. For the vast majority there are elements in the ASM business building process that they are unfamiliar with and need advice on.

          For example, sourcing strategically from China/India/Far East... or, selecting an initial product that will then serve to open up a group of products for branding a strategic portfolio, in relation to positioning and of competition.

          So, it is the STRATEGIC thinking and elements that incomers to ASM need most help with. (The single TACTICAL issues that you refer to are usually quickly understood and, after a bit of hand holding and a few tries, usually newcomers get the hang of these.)
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    I have been looking at starting with Amazon private label products, and I've been researching some of the (many) different courses out there.

    I'm wondering if anyone might have some any recommendation about the top courses for Amazon private label products.

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    I took the Private Label University programs. They are not marketers or new to private label. They have been sourcing, importing and private labeling for the chain stores and come with 35 years of experience. They teach you what you need to know "before" and "after" amazon. The stuff no one teaches. Listing and selling on Amazon is the easy part. Finding the products to sell and the best suppliers that was the hard part for me. They offer a free bootcamp that was great too. here is the site. Consider It Made - Private Label University | Unlocking The Secrets To Your Online Selling Success
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