Selling through Amazon FBA when you're not in the US

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Hello WARRIORS!, first post for me :-)
I'm from Europe, I live in Thailand and as the title of this thread suggest I'm looking to sell my products in the US market through Amazon FBA.
First of all is regarding the sourcing process: should I do it from China (Alibaba) or am I better off looking locally (Thailand) for cheap products ?
Once I find reliable suppliers and got samples, how do I ship them to the FBA warehouses?
What is involved in the whole process of exporting products into un unfamiliar country (sea or air shipping?finding a shipping&logistic agent? Cargo insurance? import duties/taxes? UPC codes?..and many other things..
I know is a lot of questions, but I just need a little directions from those of you experienced in these things: a little light in the darkness is what I need and questions seem to accumulate on each other as soon as I get some answer..Thanks a lot for taking the time!
Wish you all a great time and successful businesses!
#amazon #export #fba #import #selling
  • Profile picture of the author DWaters
    Ufortunately I cannot provide direct answers to your questions since I live in the US and have not had to deal with your situation.
    My first suggestion is to spend time going thru Amazon's tutorial videos. They explain a lot of things there.
    As for UPC codes if you need them they can be obtained online, just google them. I know in the US the shipping to the warehouses is with UPS at Amazon's very inexpensive rate.
    You may want to search with the search feature of this forum to find many answers.
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    • Profile picture of the author rumifdx
      Thank You for the reply DWaters, I still got a useful tip about UPS from your answer.
      I appreciate it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Riccur
    Wouldn't you have to pay a crazy amount to get the products shipped? That would impact your margins, are your margins that good?
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    • Profile picture of the author rseigel
      Originally Posted by Riccur View Post

      Wouldn't you have to pay a crazy amount to get the products shipped? That would impact your margins, are your margins that good?
      Nah! Just put it on a slow boat from China.
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      • Profile picture of the author Riccur
        Originally Posted by rseigel View Post

        Nah! Just put it on a slow boat from China.
        Really? People are looking for quick turnaronds now. 1-2 day shipping is going to be the normal very shortly.
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        • Profile picture of the author rumifdx
          yes correct, 1-2 days shipping times is what people expect, that's why in the thread I mentioned using Amazon FBA: shipped from China is my inventory, not yet sold to the customer ;-)...
          Thanks for your input!
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    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      Originally Posted by Riccur View Post

      Wouldn't you have to pay a crazy amount to get the products shipped? That would impact your margins, are your margins that good?
      If you buy from genuine manufacturers and you know how to get the best prices, (no haggling) your margins can easily cover the cost of shipping. That applies even if you ship by air courier.

      I franchised my importing business in 4 countries and every shipment was delivered by Air Courier or EMS. The margins after all costs were never less than cost X 250%.

      One of my students wrote in an email: "Ok. From extremely skeptical to successful completion. Credit given where credit is due. I followed the book instructions you laid out. Took my time to double check everything and was able to successfully import an order from China. Not only that but it was also a "sample order" for less than 300.00. A 300% mark up has allowed to get initial investment back and I have 70% of my inventory left. Stop promoting your book. Your encouraging competition for me Many thanks." Email on file for FTC inspection if required.

      Some have posted on WF about even higher margins, so in answer to your question: Yes, the margins certainly can be that good, but you are unlikely to get those margins dealing with the traders masquerading as manufacturers on Alibaba. You need to use safe sites where those identified as manufacturers really are.
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      • Profile picture of the author rumifdx
        Thank you ImportExport,
        I understand that getting to the "real source" it's crucial for any product to be sustainable and profitable in the e-commerce space. I'll be checking out your book soon ;-)

        Kind regards
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  • Profile picture of the author rseigel
    :::facepalm:::

    Apparently nobody got the joke....
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    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      Originally Posted by Z Huang View Post

      If ya have any questions or issues feel free to ask "the worst I can say is I dun know"
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      If you go to his FB blog for free info you will find that he wants to sell a sourcing service. This is copied from his site: "We are providing FREE sourcing service. Only charges a commission/minimum fee after you are satisfied with the price & your order is confirmed." FREE ..... PLUS COMMISSION???

      As I have stated in many previous posts, how can you know that a sourcing agent in China is working completely in your interest rather than his own? You don't know who he is. What are his credentials? Why should you rely on him?

      He will charge you a commission on the order you place. That order will be under his control until then. His blog makes it clear that he buys the goods in his name and resells them to you with his commission added. That makes him a trader, NOT a sourcing agent. Does he also get a big discount or commission from the supplier?

      It is easy to do your own product sourcing and buy good products direct from genuine manufacturers at extremely low prices that leave you a big margin. I have taught hundreds how to do it safely and easily. Here's a WF post by one of my book users: "I have contacted some manufacturers already (from links he supplies) and I am just shocked at the low prices they offer for products I am researching. Forget Alibaba, Global Sources, whatever. The Ebook shows you where to find manufacturers, how to verify their credibility etc."

      On his blog he boasts about making 60% net profit on his eBay sales. I have letters and posts by my book users quoting profit margins ranging from 300% to 1250%. Now 300% works out at a net profit of around 66%. 1250% works out at a net of around 92%. I will post some of those posts or letters if you want to check. I don't claim everyone can make 92%, but 66% is easy for most, and they don't have to pay me a commission.
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      • Profile picture of the author rumifdx
        Originally Posted by Importexport View Post

        If you go to his FB blog for free info you will find that he wants to sell a sourcing service. This is copied from his site: "We are providing FREE sourcing service. Only charges a commission/minimum fee after you are satisfied with the price & your order is confirmed." FREE ..... PLUS COMMISSION???

        As I have stated in many previous posts, how can you know that a sourcing agent in China is working completely in your interest rather than his own? You don't know who he is. What are his credentials? Why should you rely on him?

        He will charge you a commission on the order you place. That order will be under his control until then. His blog makes it clear that he buys the goods in his name and resells them to you with his commission added. That makes him a trader, NOT a sourcing agent. Does he also get a big discount or commission from the supplier?

        It is easy to do your own product sourcing and buy good products direct from genuine manufacturers at extremely low prices that leave you a big margin. I have taught hundreds how to do it safely and easily. Here's a WF post by one of my book users: "I have contacted some manufacturers already (from links he supplies) and I am just shocked at the low prices they offer for products I am researching. Forget Alibaba, Global Sources, whatever. The Ebook shows you where to find manufacturers, how to verify their credibility etc."

        On his blog he boasts about making 60% net profit on his eBay sales. I have letters and posts by my book users quoting profit margins ranging from 300% to 1250%. Now 300% works out at a net profit of around 66%. 1250% works out at a net of around 92%. I will post some of those posts or letters if you want to check. I don't claim everyone can make 92%, but 66% is easy for most, and they don't have to pay me a commission.
        Originally Posted by rseigel View Post

        So Importexport....

        Essentially what you're doing now is putting someone else down so you can SPAM your service here?

        Is that about right?

        Yup, it sure is since your sole reason for the post(s) was to flog your $97 ebook.

        Then you go on to ask if it's ok if you SPAM some more by posting "posts and letters".

        Unbelievable....
        I'm kinda new to WF but I've read MANY posts from MANY people and I can tell some warriors stand out for their consistency and value they add to the forum, even though they have their own product/service to sell.
        NOW, taking advice -or even just considering opinions- from users with 1000's of posts and a strikingly-clear REPUTATION on the forum, is quite a different thing of doing the same from someone who got 3-4 posts and apparently just joined the forum to ONLY sell his stuff, without even bother to build FIRST certain CREDIBILITY to stand the part.
        My 2 cents.
        Thank you
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        • Profile picture of the author Importexport
          Originally Posted by rumifdx View Post

          I'm kinda new to WF but I've read MANY posts from MANY people and I can tell some warriors stand out for their consistency and value they add to the forum, even though they have their own product/service to sell.
          NOW, taking advice -or even just considering opinions- from users with 1000's of posts and a strikingly-clear REPUTATION on the forum, is quite a different thing of doing the same from someone who got 3-4 posts and apparently just joined the forum to ONLY sell his stuff, without even bother to build FIRST certain CREDIBILITY to stand the part.
          My 2 cents.
          Thank you
          @rumifdx, I appreciate the way you put some perspective into this.

          Yes I am proud of my reputation on the forum. Over 1200 posts so far, with 376 thanks, plus a huge number of people going to the trouble of expressing thanks by writing a post rather than just clicking on a "Thanks" button.

          I doubt that rseigel read my post fully or if he did it was with blinkers on. In that post I contributed a valuable service to newbies who could be taken in by yet another of the numerous product sourcing offers now being posted by newcomers to the forum.

          I legitimately showed them that there is a very low cost, and reputable alternative to the high cost and risky sourcing services being offered by those newcomer sourcing agents. rseigel might not understand the risks, but having successfully imported since 1987 I do understand and I am consistently helping warriors avoid those risks.

          I also contribute with my thread: Ask Me Anything About Product Sourcing And Importing For Profit. ― Veteran Importer Here. although I most often answer questions on other threads.
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  • Profile picture of the author rseigel
    So Importexport....

    Essentially what you're doing now is putting someone else down so you can SPAM your service here?

    Is that about right?

    Yup, it sure is since your sole reason for the post(s) was to flog your $97 ebook.

    Then you go on to ask if it's ok if you SPAM some more by posting "posts and letters".

    Unbelievable....
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