Importing from China? Where do you rank in the product sourcing food chain?

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There is no need to remain a bottom feeder. There are posts on Warrior Forum in which members report margins of 250%, 300%, 500% and sometimes even more over the landed cost of their products. How do they do it?

The answer is very simple. They don’t buy wholesale. They don’t buy from middlemen. They don’t buy from traders. They don’t use sourcing agents. They buy direct from the manufacturers. Before looking at how they do it, just consider the food chain hierarchy.

Strictly speaking the hierarchy should be something like this:
1. At the top of the pile is the manufacturer. These people have a factory where they actually produce the goods. Some will supply direct to resellers such as you, but you will find that if you approach local manufacturers you will often encounter barriers. They usually have their sales network already in place and small resellers are seen as a nuisance.

If however, you approach real manufacturers in China, or other exporting countries, they will usually welcome you with open arms. When you are buying from manufacturers you are almost certainly getting the lowest price possible, giving you the highest profit margins. You are buying at ex-factory prices – true wholesale.

2. Next come the wholesalers who supposedly buy very large quantities and carry them in stock for sale to resellers like you. They are supposed to carry stock, and that is usually the case in Western countries, but when dealing with Chinese suppliers you should understand that very few of them actually carry any stock. This is how it works:
*They obtain pictures of products for which they see a big demand.
*Often without any prior arrangement with the manufacturers, they post those products for sale on sites such as Alibaba.
*They get your order and your deposit, usually insisting on a high MOQ.
*Then they contact the manufacturer and bargain for the lowest price they can get.
*If that price leaves them a good margin, and the manufacturer agrees to supply them, they place an order and eventually ship the goods to you.
*If the manufacturer refuses to supply them, they cancel your order, and provided they are not scammers they will sooner or later send you a refund.

The price they have quoted you is much higher than what they expected to pay to the manufacturer, so why not go direct to the manufacturer and pay that much lower price?

3. Traders. Most of these will try to make you believe that they are the actual manufacturer. They usually have an arrangement with the manufacturer to buy at a big discount, but they don't pass that on to you.

4. Resellers, (you) are near the bottom of the food chain, but by going direct to the manufacturer you can rise to #2 position after the manufacturer. The individual consumer is at the bottom. You buy at the lowest price you can negotiate, and make a profit on reselling the goods.

Profit margins are incredibly variable. The difference between wholesale prices and direct from the factory prices can be staggering.

Don’t give up. There are big profits to be made. Make your way as near as possible to the top. Buy direct from the factories. If you have the means to sell physical products that is the hard part. Safely sourcing them even in small quantities at best prices and then importing them are the easy parts.

Walter Hay.
"If you think education is expensive - consider the cost of ignorance."
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  • Profile picture of the author Oziboomer
    Originally Posted by Importexport View Post

    If you have the means to sell physical products that is the hard part. Safely sourcing them even in small quantities at best prices and then importing them are the easy parts.
    Thanks Walter.

    I have a friend who leases 3m x 3m spaces in the highest retail rent shopping centres in Australia.

    His rental is usually around 10K per month per centre.

    He is usually selling $40 - $50 items and has done this year after year.

    Usually he employs Chinese students to run the booths...not because of costs...but because they believe in working hard for their money and are usually honest. He is not Chinese.

    He scales up and down depending on the trends but he does understand his metrics very well.

    We recently discussed a business he watched grow over the holiday period that is just coming to an end.

    Now I would have thought....No-Way....but when we did the maths the operator was making a tidy profit.

    They had imported a range of rechargeable ride-on large animals form China at about $600 each.

    They were NOT selling the animals.

    They were hiring them out for 30 minute rides...or longer so parents could ride with their kids around the shopping centre at only $10 per 30 minutes.

    The operator started with 8 of these rides.

    Within about a week they were fully booked all day every day 9am - 9pm...longer during extended trading hours.

    They had a waiting list for eager people to pay and ride.

    The operator was leasing a booth at $2K per week.

    8 animals soon became 16.

    16 rides at $20 per hour - $320 per hour.

    Average 12 hours per day = $3840 x 7 days per week = $26880 gross per week.

    16 robotic ride on animals cost $9600.

    Not bad for a temporary business running for about 10 weeks over the Xmas peak period.

    Just had to share because there are opportunities like this everywhere if someone cares to look.

    Most would baulk at the $2K+ per week to get a foot in the door.

    The inexperienced would think ... he's charging only charging $10...poor fellow....he's not making much money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Importexport
    @Oziboomer, your very helpful post should encourage others to think outside the square.

    Another great example is a person I have been guiding through the sourcing process, and he has found the one and only real manufacturer of a product that will cost him thousands of dollars per unit.

    Like your friend, he has no intention of reselling these items, but will use them himself in a totally untapped market in his country. ROI is likely to be huge, around 500% per year, and there is great room for expansion.

    I can't tell you the brilliant niche he has discovered because others might try to copy. But, even if they do try, his experience shows that bypassing the expensive middlemen and finding that one and only real manufacturer will be totally beyond the ability of most potential copycats.

    If they use the middlemen the inflated cost would lower the return to very low levels.

    True entrepreneurs will find their own niche rather than follow the herd into low margin price cutting businesses. Think "HOT SELLERS". Everyone is searching for the latest "HOT SELLERS".

    Walter Hay.
    "If you think education is expensive - consider the cost of ignorance."
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