Are coaching programs just after the newbies money?

Well my opinion there's a lot of "Coaches" here who come out with "Coaching" WSO" every other day and you can scan and going through the many on here you'll get familiar with their names and find little to no one comes back to say they actually learned enough or made anything from the "Coaching".Usually reviews are yeah it's doable etc. etc. but no actual money mentioned.They make their money coming up with these so called "Coaching" WSO's and are good writers or have writers to produce these offers that entice you to buy even though they have made little and thus cannot prove otherwise.But as it is they are not permitted to show proof here so they use that as excuse not to show past profits if they exist.Like I say buyer beware and do your homework and if it's too good to be true usually is.

Yeah I know that it is still up to the student but come on...if the "coach" offers 1-on-1 coaching and say that he/she gonna teach the student EVERYTHING then why cant the "coach" gurantee the student's success?

I am talking about the student doing the work and executing all the things that were taught along with the coach working side by side with the student.

Coaches, where you at?

The problem is, you can teach everything you know but it doesn't mean the person will retain it or implement it. There is a TON of work involved in being successful in most eCommerce ventures and we can show you what to do, but it is still up to the people to do the actual work. It's like most things in life, successful people are successful because they do everything it takes to be successful. They don't take "no" for an answer and when a wall is put up in front of them, they figure out a way over it, under it, or they bash right through it. All of the most successful people I know in this industry worked 60-90 hours per week on our web businesses - at least until they became successful (and some of us still do).You can't teach that!

You'd be surprised at how few people who say they are 100% committed and who will do everything they can to be successful actually are 100% committed. A few weeks or months in, they realize it's just too much work and give up. Once they hear "no" from two suppliers, they hang it up, figuring it's just too hard. Once they have their first ten link requests turned down, they give up. If they can't figure out the shopping cart platform, they throw up their arms and quit instead of buckling down and trying to learn it. There's dozens of reasons for quitting and most people will exercise them if given the chance.

As far as guaranteeing success goes, it all comes down to the definition of "success" you wish to use. We have never built a website that did not make at least some profit. We dump a ton of them because they turn out to be too much work for the relatively low amount of profit (but they did have some profit). A site that makes a few hundred profit per month is not worth our time. We would rather spend our time on the sites that have a much greater return - at least $1,000/month profit (we have about 30 eCommerce sites that do at least that amount or considerably more right now). And, of course, who is going to guarantee success when so many people just quit so easily or are just too lazy to do the work?

The hard truth is, none of us knows for certain how much money a website is going to make until we have built it (unless we know one in that niche that was sold or someone was bragging on a forum how much his website selling "X" was making). The search numbers combined with the amount of competition and the profit per sale are good indicators but things are not always as they seem. We've had sites that we only thought would make a few hundred dollars profit that made a few thousand per month and sites that we thought were going to be goldmines that only made a few hundred per month. If we knew ahead of time which ones were the real winners and losers, we'd all be multimillionaires. We'll toss up three sites in three different niches and keep the best of the three. Then, we'll do it all over again with another three.

In addition to our free course, we have many other paid services, one of which is private coaching. You'd be shocked by the number of people who pay for 4 calls per month that only show up for one and didn't accomplish a thing since the last call, 4 weeks ago. Far more people pay for things they do not use than people who use what they pay for. Life seems to often get in the way of itself and provides people with a plethora of excuses for not being successful.

Ask yourself, are you the type of person who is going to all on your own, learn image creation and editing? Are you going to work your butt off to become a better writer? Are you going to on your own learn HTML and CSS skills (at the very minimum) so that you can make your websites look even better? Are you going to learn accounting on your own? Are you going to muster up enough courage to call supplier after supplier, hearing "no" time after time, until you finally get a "yes"? There are many other skills that you pick up in this long journey and no course is going to teach you any of those things. You have to learn those things on your own or pay other people a whole lot of your profits to do them for you.

More than anything, the skills that most people seem to lack are patience and persistence. So many people are looking for the fast, immediate buck. So many have a great excuse for procrastinating. So few have the determination to keep plodding along, one step at a time when the mountain of things that they need to do and learn seems so overwhelming. So very few have the patience to wait for all those little steps to pay off down the road.

Bottom Line: We are not going to guarantee your success. You should be the one guaranteeing it to yourself. We give you all the information you absolutely need to be successful in ecommerce. What are YOU going to do with it? Plenty of people have been immensely successful with our course that never spent a dime on private coaching or anything else. They put their noses to the grindstone and got to work. When they didn't know how to do something, they Googled it and learned how. When one thing wasn't successful, they tried another. It's too easy to blame others or expect others to do everything for you when a mirror so often shows the real reason for success or lack thereof.

Funny how a wannabe coach sent me a PM and when I gave him a deal coz I do not want to pay $2000 to an unknown coach he then said that he does not want to work with me.

Far out, he was the one who approached me. I haven't even heard of him.

Come on wannabe coach please reply in this thread and give your insights please.

This thread just suits you right

Question is - what 'level' of coach is hanging around forums approaching people one by one? And what is it about your questions that made him view you as a good 'prospect'?

Waste of time to rant about what others do - focus on what you need to do. You've gotten some good advice in several threads...run with it.

Hi R,

No. Impossible. A coaching program is an inanimate object, not a sentient being, so it cannot be after anything.

That is called a joke

Some coaches are after people's money.

Some coaches love helping and inspiring people, making their focus the giving, not the getting.

Just like a billion walks of life, some folks are in it for the service, and some folks are in it for the money.

Ryan

If you ask me, talk is fine, i let them to say whatever they have.
But, dont pay a cent if there is no contract and refund policy.

Show me success, and i will stay. Show me nothing, you lose.

At the end, they are the one that gives an offer. And you are the one that accept/reject.

And by the same token, some newbies are so busy trying to look like they know what to do...they miss good advice when it bops them on the head.

Thing is - busy 'marketers' don't spend much time thinking about newbies - or other marketers - unless they are selling to them. It's not an 'us vs them' playing field.

In my view, the term 'newbie' is just a temporary label and best thing to do is learn fast and get over being a 'newbie'. We were all there at one time - some people learn/work and move on while others call themselves 'newbies' years later.

Quit online marketing right now and find a job.

I can tell you already you that with your attitude, you will never make it.

Just stop now. Don't invest any money into this and stick to your job. This is REALLY not for you, you don't have what it takes.

Thank me later.

I don't think coaches are taking advantages on newbies, just my thought

New marketers and seasoned marketers can be vulnerable at times.
Yes there are coaches that Don't have the best interest of their students as will be seen when they continue to upsell their client despite them not getting results with what they already have.

Nothing is guaranteed online so therefore I would commend the marketers that are honest in that manner.

Just because some one is teaching you doesn't mean you can duplicate their success .
You can either do better or worst. I highly doubt that any prospect or student that I teach can replicate the same results.

No, you are not - and you are close to the line with some of your comments. If you don't like someone's products - don't buy them Rudeness to other members is not acceptable.

The above is honest advice meant to help you - take it or leave it.


For posting negative comments in someone's paid WSO - when you clearly state you know nothing about the product and have no intention of buying. Don't do that.

So - you are saying someone who doesn't pay doesn't get a refund? That's what is wrong with IM today...oh wait....never mind....

splorf moment - thanks, Dave!