Amazon FBA - Shipping products

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Hi Everyone,

I'm looking to start an FBA business very soon, however I do have a question.

Would you recommend either getting the supplier to add the UPC or Amazon labels, and shipping directly to Amazons fulfilment centre, or should I get the supplier to ship to an inspection centre first?



Thanks for your help

Josh
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  • Profile picture of the author savidge4
    Originally Posted by jjbutton View Post

    Hi Everyone,

    I'm looking to start an FBA business very soon, however I do have a question.

    Would you recommend either getting the supplier to add the UPC or Amazon labels, and shipping directly to Amazons fulfilment centre, or should I get the supplier to ship to an inspection centre first?



    Thanks for your help

    Josh
    I might suggest it depends on the quantity. Depending on the item I like to "hold" stock. The minute stock is on the hands of Amazon it costs you money IE storage etc. So if you have say 100 of something I would only send say 10 to start. This also gives you the option of selling product from "home" on other platforms. Generally speaking more platforms means more sales overall. At the very least I would be selling the same product on Amazon, eBay and Facebook marketplace - that's just what I would do.

    As the amount of inventory increases to say 1000 I would without question hold inventory and supply Amazon as needed.
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    • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
      Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

      This also gives you the option of selling product from "home" on other platforms.
      Once again, people, selling on Amazon and Fulfillment By Amazon are two entirely different things. You don't have to market products at all on Amazon to use them as a fulfillment center. That's all FBA (Fulfillment By Amazon) is - a fulfillment center owned by Amazon.

      In other words, you always "have the option of selling from 'home'" using FBA.They are just a warehouse picking products and shipping them for you, regardless of where the order comes from.

      On a side note, shipping them anywhere first (your home or an inspection center) is going to increase your shipping costs since you now will have one more place that your goods have to be shipped to and then from. I'd sincerely evaluate whether those costs are worth it.
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        Originally Posted by dave_hermansen View Post

        Once again, people, selling on Amazon and Fulfillment By Amazon are two entirely different things. You don't have to market products at all on Amazon to use them as a fulfillment center. That's all FBA (Fulfillment By Amazon) is - a fulfillment center owned by Amazon.

        In other words, you always "have the option of selling from 'home'" using FBA.They are just a warehouse picking products and shipping them for you, regardless of where the order comes from.

        On a side note, shipping them anywhere first (your home or an inspection center) is going to increase your shipping costs since you now will have one more place that your goods have to be shipped to and then from. I'd sincerely evaluate whether those costs are worth it.
        I agree but the outstanding variable is the quantity... If its 10 of something sure send it to Amazon.. if its 100 of something and the key variable here is "Im looking to start" that indicates there is no actual data of movement of said product and he smart move might be to have the 100 delivered to the house and then send in 10 to see how it works. If from there the item sells well enough then you know. If the item bombs your not paying storage and then the return postage to send the item back to you.

        Part experience, part perspective and "starting" will have neither
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          Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

          I agree but the outstanding variable is the quantity... If its 10 of something sure send it to Amazon.. if its 100 of something and the key variable here is "Im looking to start" that indicates there is no actual data of movement of said product and he smart move might be to have the 100 delivered to the house and then send in 10 to see how it works. If from there the item sells well enough then you know. If the item bombs your not paying storage and then the return postage to send the item back to you.

          Part experience, part perspective and "starting" will have neither
          Actually, that's almost the opposite of what I teach. If you are only ordering 10 of something, you really have not tested it much, which means that your home is where you should be storing and shipping those things from.

          I would never order 100 of something that I hadn't already tested by either dropshipping or ordering a small quantity and shipping from home. I also wouldn't want to ship 100 or more of anything from my home - I have far better things to do with my time. When the numbers get that big is exactly when you start using a fulfillment house to take care of the menial labor.
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          • Profile picture of the author savidge4
            Originally Posted by dave_hermansen View Post

            Actually, that's almost the opposite of what I teach. If you are only ordering 10 of something, you really have not tested it much, which means that your home is where you should be storing and shipping those things from.
            oh trust me - you and I are in 100% agreement here.. but that is you and me right? BUT that is in no way the "lifestyle" aspect of the business that is seen plastered all over the internet. How many "I spent $30,000 on product and haven't sold anything" articles have you seen? I could point you to HUNDREDS if not thousands. People want easy money.. and don't understand the concept of "Market" dictating success.

            Originally Posted by dave_hermansen View Post

            I would never order 100 of something that I hadn't already tested by either dropshipping or ordering a small quantity and shipping from home.
            Primarily agree... but with eBay you can start looking at data such as sold listings and get an idea before a purchase if it is something to consider. I am not about to say that I do this all the time... but I have been known to.


            Originally Posted by dave_hermansen View Post

            I also wouldn't want to ship 100 or more of anything from my home - I have far better things to do with my time. When the numbers get that big is exactly when you start using a fulfillment house to take care of the menial labor.
            Here is where the line between us is drawn... I prefer this method. The more control I have on the Buyer Experience the better. KNOWING that I can have an item at my customers door step in no more than 3 days ( unless weight and size dictates FedEx shipping ) - that's huge. A good buying experience creates customer satisfaction which translates to future sales and referrals - Online marketers refer to "The List" as being the holy grail... fast shipping in the e-comm world is about equal.

            To have 100 of the same thing ( using the example here ) all you have to do is pre package the item and stack it up. when you sell one, you stick a shipping label on it. Its really not that hard - The cost of shipping is less. There are no storage fees. Financially for the "little guy" it makes no sense what so ever to use fulfillment.

            The other aspect of this... Once you go the fulfillment route you start limiting options. I would suggest at this point, the option of getting your items across as many platforms as possible is short of critical. The newest addition of Facebook Shop is a bit of a game changer. Having a Shopify or WooCommerce back end with the ability to directly sell from the site itself, Instagram and Facebook is more than appealing. Add Additional platforms like Amazon ( self fulfillment ) eBay and others and your eggs are no longer in one basket.

            You have 1,000,000 million boxes of Borax soap. Are you going to put all 1,000,000 in one store, or are you going to put 100,000 each in 10 stores?

            Right now in todays e-comm environment there is a whole lot to be said for the integration of Platforms. ( Amazon, eBay, Facebook, Your own website, Etsy etc ) many of these have built-in traffic. The fees associated with these as I see it are less than my own efforts to draw traffic. The idea of developing a Shopify store and thinking you are going to draw traffic and make sales is flawed.

            Don't get me wrong, It can be done.. I am assuming YOU do it... I do it... but someone just starting... they basically don't stand a chance. Even people thinking they will sell something using Amazon and Amazon FBA get slapped with a big ol dose of reality that they inevitably have to create their own traffic. The reality is there are easier ways to get started and get both success and experience under your belt with a far less learning curve.

            You and I both know the secret to being "successful" in e-comm is the ability to develop traffic. The very unspoken truth about Amazon is YES they are this huge store and have tons of traffic, but to get your product to list well you have to focus on CTR and Conversions.. and if you are on the bottom of the list its hard to develop either. So you have to bring your own traffic, or drop your price. More than many a shirt has been lost is all I can say. LOL
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            • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
              Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

              The idea of developing a Shopify store and thinking you are going to draw traffic and make sales is flawed.

              Don't get me wrong, It can be done.. I am assuming YOU do it... I do it... but someone just starting... they basically don't stand a chance. Even people thinking they will sell something using Amazon and Amazon FBA get slapped with a big ol dose of reality that they inevitably have to create their own traffic. The reality is there are easier ways to get started and get both success and experience under your belt with a far less learning curve.

              You and I both know the secret to being "successful" in e-comm is the ability to develop traffic. The very unspoken truth about Amazon is YES they are this huge store and have tons of traffic, but to get your product to list well you have to focus on CTR and Conversions.. and if you are on the bottom of the list its hard to develop either. So you have to bring your own traffic, or drop your price. More than many a shirt has been lost is all I can say. LOL
              Actually, it depends on the website, but very few we build these days are done with the mindset that we are going to dominate organic traffic. Everything we build these days is done with the notion that we are going to get the lion's share of traffic from advertising. What we use for advertising depends on the type of store it is - high ticket brand name dropshipping or low ticket private label stock and ship. Certain forms of advertising do not work with one model or the other or with some products.

              These days, organic is something we work on AFTER we have done as well as we can with paid advertising. If paid advertising is not panning out, we're definitely not going to waste time on organic.
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                Originally Posted by dave_hermansen View Post

                Actually, it depends on the website, but very few we build these days are done with the mindset that we are going to dominate organic traffic. Everything we build these days is done with the notion that we are going to get the lion's share of traffic from advertising. What we use for advertising depends on the type of store it is - high ticket brand name dropshipping or low ticket private label stock and ship. Certain forms of advertising do not work with one model or the other or with some products.

                These days, organic is something we work on AFTER we have done as well as we can with paid advertising. If paid advertising is not panning out, we're definitely not going to waste time on organic.
                Across the board for me, I list items on platforms that have traffic flow IE eBay, Facebook, Etsy, etc. I have in the last year started creating what I call micro stores that we are developing sites and social presence for but use ads very little.

                I do not "dropship" so that obviously makes my approach different to yours.

                Either way which or whatever the common ground here is neither of us are shooting for Organic reach across search engines. ME the SEO guy will openly admit in the world of e-comm that is absolutely a waste of time. Will my platform listings ( eBay, Etsy ) rank? They do, and its nice when it happens, but not something I count on.
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