The Power of Aged Domains and Ecommerce

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I have always toyed with the idea of buying expired domains with age. I see a lot of people say buy old domains with PR. The problem is, the only PR domains in the niches I was searching were in the $1000's. I am not paying that much for a domain.

So, I found some cheap expiring domains with no PR, but that were 7-10 years old. What was even better was the fact that I paid $6 for each of the domains.

Here is where the power comes in. I was looking for suppliers in a couple of niches and couldnt find any. I found some wholesalers, but no dropshippers.

So, I started calling the wholsalers and showing them that I had been in business for 7-10 years, by showing them the age of my domain. I was able to secure several dropship accounts with these wholesalers because I was established.

If you are in ecommerce, and are frustrated about not being able to find PR domains, go for aged, expiring domains.
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  • Profile picture of the author akoni
    thanks for this tips
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  • Profile picture of the author TheMagicShow
    Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery View Post

    I have always toyed with the idea of buying expired domains with age. I see a lot of people say buy old domains with PR. The problem is, the only PR domains in the niches I was searching were in the $1000's. I am not paying that much for a domain.

    So, I found some cheap expiring domains with no PR, but that were 7-10 years old. What was even better was the fact that I paid $6 for each of the domains.

    Here is where the power comes in. I was looking for suppliers in a couple of niches and couldnt find any. I found some wholesalers, but no dropshippers.

    So, I started calling the wholsalers and showing them that I had been in business for 7-10 years, by showing them the age of my domain. I was able to secure several dropship accounts with these wholesalers because I was established.

    If you are in ecommerce, and are frustrated about not being able to find PR domains, go for aged, expiring domains.
    Good luck Charles! I was in the ecom/wholesale/dropshipping biz for lots of years and it's both an exciting and unpredictable ride!
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    • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
      Hey man, if you think establishing business based on expiring domain names for credibility is cool, you should see what Greg Jacobs does with his WP Mage system.

      You can really trick the search engines into giving you super high rankings just by picking up an old domain names.

      He gets his sites to the top of Google practically instantly. It's insane. The man knows how to work the system. I recommend checking it out if you like this concept.

      http://www.wpmage.com
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      • Originally Posted by Cataclysm1987 View Post

        Hey man, if you think establishing business based on expiring domain names for credibility is cool, you should see what Greg Jacobs does with his WP Mage system.

        You can really trick the search engines into giving you super high rankings just by picking up an old domain names.

        He gets his sites to the top of Google practically instantly. It's insane. The man knows how to work the system. I recommend checking it out if you like this concept.

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        Im not sure I want to go down the road of tricking google. That could come back and bite me in the butt.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
          Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery View Post

          So, I found some cheap expiring domains with no PR, but that were 7-10 years old. What was even better was the fact that I paid $6 for each of the domains.

          Here is where the power comes in. I was looking for suppliers in a couple of niches and couldnt find any. I found some wholesalers, but no dropshippers.

          So, I started calling the wholsalers and showing them that I had been in business for 7-10 years, by showing them the age of my domain. I was able to secure several dropship accounts with these wholesalers because I was established.
          Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery View Post

          Im not sure I want to go down the road of tricking google. That could come back and bite me in the butt.
          So, you draw the line at deceiving Google, but find it okay to deceive your suppliers? You don't think that might come back to bite you?
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        thanks for tips and course.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    Another awesome idea Charles, thanks a lot
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Ive found its more-so about the SEO attributes of the domain, rather than its age. An old domain doesn't always gaurantee better ranking, although it can help to a degree.
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  • ^^^ Nope, I am okay with that

    I might enter a new ecommerce niche, but I have been selling stuff online for around 7 years now. So when I say, I have been doing this for X number of years, I am telling the truth. Same principles apply acoss all niches.
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    • Profile picture of the author L41db4ck
      Hi, where do you find the expiring domains?
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      • Originally Posted by L41db4ck View Post

        Hi, where do you find the expiring domains?
        I got mine from Godaddy's auctions. Look at domains that expired 25-30 days from the day you are looking. They do not transfer it to you until day 45.
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        • Profile picture of the author marciayudkin
          So, I started calling the wholsalers and showing them that I had been in business for 7-10 years, by showing them the age of my domain.
          If you have not been in business for 7-10 years, it is wrong to tell people you have been. Are you saying that you are proud of having misled these suppliers?

          Perhaps I have misunderstood what Charles was telling us he did, but I do find it disturbing to see lying being recommended as a smart business tactic.

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        • Profile picture of the author L41db4ck
          Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery View Post

          I got mine from Godaddy's auctions.
          Thanks, the godaddy site(www.tdnam.com) was given in the wp mage blueprint as well

          Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery View Post

          Look at domains that expired 25-30 days from the day you are looking
          How?
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          • Originally Posted by L41db4ck View Post

            Thanks, the godaddy site(www.tdnam.com) was given in the wp mage blueprint as well



            How?
            I looked at the sites for sell and it showed how many days they were expired on the actual site. So, visit the site.

            And yes, Mudbutt, get them before they expire.
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    Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery View Post


    So, I started calling the wholsalers and showing them that I had been in business for 7-10 years, by showing them the age of my domain. I was able to secure several dropship accounts with these wholesalers because I was established.
    Isn't this lying to your partners even before the relationship starts? Even if you're been selling online in another niche, suppliers want to know your staying power in their niche, so my understanding this is a lie. I understand the value of aged domains from Google's perspective and for this reason age is becoming less of a valuable asset, since Google also checks the registrar's ownership changes, if it's not private. So even for Google's perspective, we're not big on aged domains since authority and ranking comes real quick with the right content.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
      Originally Posted by scottgallagher View Post

      Isn't this lying to your partners even before the relationship starts? Even if you're been selling online in another niche, suppliers want to know your staying power in their niche, so my understanding this is a lie. I understand the value of aged domains from Google's perspective and for this reason age is becoming less of a valuable asset, since Google also checks the registrar's ownership changes, if it's not private. So even for Google's perspective, we're not big on aged domains since authority and ranking comes real quick with the right content.
      He is not lying, he has been in business 7 years and the domain has been around multiple years too.

      This is exactly what he said he says, now...if people wish to translate that to something else that is their business but he deceives no one. He simply stretches the truth a little as you would on any CV

      No one ever stated anywhere that in order to have dealings with anyone you are forced to hold onto the same domain exclusively all the rest of your days otherwise the internet would never have got started.

      Domains come and go, the people "leasing" them don't...the exact opposite of the real world yet people don't have a hissy fit about that.

      Charles is one of the more respected marketers here, all that he says is listened to by the big dogs. He has been in this business many years and he shouldn't have to qualify every life choice he has ever made from before the internet was born to anyone.

      The only thing people care about is which he is showing is that he has been around the block a few times...nothing wrong with taking an empty property and giving it a lick of paint, just like any storefront.
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  • All you guys playin the "High Road" card.

    Im sure none of you make fake blog posts and articles reviewing your affilite products even though you have never read them or tried them, or hire people to do it for you.

    I bet none of you create forum profiles breaking sites TOS.

    I bet none of you use automated software for backlink submissions which break site's TOS.

    I bet none of you post Yahoo! Questions just to answer your own question with a different account so you can promote your affiliate site.

    The domina ages I purchased are in line with how many years I have been seling physical products on the internet. I am not lying.
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      Im sure none of you make fake blog posts and articles reviewing your affilite products even though you have never read them or tried them, or hire people to do it for you.

      I bet none of you create forum profiles breaking sites TOS.

      I bet none of you use automated software for backlink submissions which break site's TOS.

      I bet none of you post Yahoo! Questions just to answer your own question with a different account so you can promote your affiliate site.
      I can't speak for anyone else, but I have never done any of those things or anything like them. Nor have I advocated such tactics.

      Honesty is not a "card." It's a way of life for some of us.

      I'm glad to know that you actually have been in business for 7-10 years. I don't understand, though, why you would need to buy aged domains to prove it.

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      • Originally Posted by marciayudkin View Post

        I don't understand, though, why you would need to buy aged domains to prove it.

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        There are so many people new to internet marketing contacting these companies asking if they will dropship products for them that they need to know the person working with them knows what they are doing.

        I know what I am doing, but if I show them a new site, they simply think I am just another one of those people that heard about dropshipping and is trying it out.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Wanderer
      Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery View Post

      All you guys playin the "High Road" card.

      Im sure none of you make fake blog posts and articles reviewing your affilite products even though you have never read them or tried them, or hire people to do it for you.

      I bet none of you create forum profiles breaking sites TOS.

      I bet none of you use automated software for backlink submissions which break site's TOS.

      I bet none of you post Yahoo! Questions just to answer your own question with a different account so you can promote your affiliate site.

      The domina ages I purchased are in line with how many years I have been seling physical products on the internet. I am not lying.
      Well, now, I was actually finding the, "I've actually been selling online this length of time so it's not a lie" line pretty reasonable until this post. I might think that finding a way to make more credible a statement that's actually true is acceptable-- but all of the above are stretching things WAY too far.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    Think of it this way guys then, you are Mr Joe Bloggs looking to find a product to buy, are you going to go hunting around on page 9 for a site to buy from or are you going to stick to the top page?

    Fact: Many dropshippers/distributors will tend to not touch a brand new domain unless it is exceptional in keywords because they know they will have a hard time ranking and it will just waste their time and resources. It is the same with offline stores, if they do not know you or think your USP is great they will not touch you, which is why many people go on Dragons Den to gain the influence of someone such as Peter Jones or Theo Pathetis

    They are very well known businessmen in England and one phone call from them will open many doors simply because of their name. Someone could spend years trying to no avail to get their product stocked in stores, getting one of the Dragons on board will get them virtually guaranteed audience with major stores the very next week.

    Most will allow aged domains regardless of how you came by them because they know that they stand a far greater chance of being noticed and so they will profit.

    Still, you leave it to me and Charles, I don't mind :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Landis
    ive read that if you buy an aged domain after it expires it will appear as a new domain. so make sure you buy it BEFORE it expires. also, just ignore the people here questioning your "morals" and "business ethics", im pretty sure theyre not heaven sent angels either.
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  • Profile picture of the author sl19
    Nice thought to use the aged domain to your advantage.
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  • Profile picture of the author najani
    This is really good idea. Moreover it is supposed that the older the domain, the more trust it acquires. If the PR is also achieved, nothing like it. Cost is fine too.
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