Global drop shipping from China CAN be done

by pavv
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Hey guys,

I've read questions on this forum about whether drop shipping from overseas suppliers (especially China) is feasible based on shipping times. My answer is that it can be done because I'm currently doing it with several stores.

In fact it always amazes me just how quickly goods can be shipped around the world and I wanted to share this real life example of an order tracking. This is using DHL expedited shipping. Since DHL work through the weekend the delivery occurred in just 1 business day!!

http://imgur.com/2zd3S0r

#china #drop #global #shipping
  • Profile picture of the author Hampton44
    Nice--I do some shipping to Australia, but not too much. Sometimes I think I should focus more on other countries besides US.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom101
    Thats interesting, but Australia is not that far (relatively speaking) from China. It is a different ballgame with US and Europe.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gordon P
    1 business day is amazing. Though a delivery to US would take longer. I usually get my orders from china in 2-3 weeks via airmail.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aussie_Al
    I have done it for years - the company I partner with are good , they ship with EMS all over the world with very few problems - the only head ache I have is when they close for 7-10 over the Chinese new year
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  • Profile picture of the author NewParadigm
    I ordered 1 clear TPU case for my galaxy note2 from the far east. It was approx $4usd shipped! How the heck can they do that???
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    • Profile picture of the author Elisha Goodman
      I use DHL, it takes about 2-4 days from China. It's doable.
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    • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
      Originally Posted by NewParadigm View Post

      I ordered 1 clear TPU case for my galaxy note2 from the far east. It was approx $4usd shipped! How the heck can they do that???
      Very fast moving logistic operations and messy pricing structure. - For many items, you pay based on volume L*W*H. A clear phone case is very thin and thousands could probably be placed in a 1 CBM square shipping container which is then priced at maybe $300 USD for air mail from China to the U.S., which make your actual item cost pennies if a seller is sending out a large amount of items every couple of days.

      The reason why it takes many companies 10-20 business days is because they hold packages until they have enough items to be sent out where they can get a good deal on shipping because they are shipping an amount that they have determined to be profitable.

      Its very possible that an item in Shenzhen can get picked up at 8 AM, dropped off a local hub by 10 AM, get to Hong Kong by 1 in the afternoon, shipped out of the country the next day and in 20 hours be at a USPS shipping hub in the United States. Because my business (for example) pays more out of our own expense for expedited shipping and we have good volume, we can get items from our warehouse to someone in Omaha, NE in 5-7 business days at a price that is still profitable to us.
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      • Profile picture of the author todawg_not
        of course it's feasible. There are thousands of sellers from China selling to USA, UK, CAN, AU.

        They have cut throat prices and offer cheap shipping but that doesn't mean
        you can't compete with them.

        There are enough buyers (millions) on eBay that will buy locally off YOU, rather than
        a supplier in HK or China because of the following reasons

        - They simply don't trust Chinese sellers even if they have a excellent rating (old school thinking)

        - The want the item quicker than it takes to ship overseas (less than 3 days)

        -They prefer local pickups and pay cash face to face if you offer this as a option

        -They prefer sellers in their country only because it keep the money at home ( so they think lol)

        -How about this one, display your phone number, they guaranteed to speak to a English speaking
        person not a Asian that has broken English. (not being racists).

        There are heaps of reasons.

        How do I know this, because I made thousands of dollars per week using this
        exact strategy. Don't think competition is bad, open you mind to new possibilities on how you can serve the customer better.

        People bought from me not because I was the cheapest but I went beyond what
        they were use to and serve their needs better.

        Have fun
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  • Profile picture of the author Hampton44
    When is the Chinese New Year and do most of the drop shippers close? I need to find this out. My orders take 6-10 days via China DHL. I can go for a much cheaper option that is about half that takes 3 weeks--and I do that for freebie items etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
      Originally Posted by Hampton44 View Post

      When is the Chinese New Year and do most of the drop shippers close? .
      Very Soon, got an email from Alibaba from one of the suppliers, they said to expect delays ! The date is Sunday Febuary 10,2013
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      • Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

        Very Soon, got an email from Alibaba from one of the suppliers, they said to expect delays ! The date is Sunday Febuary 10,2013

        Wow. That'll cut into a profit! Or, at least make a customer mad!

        One thing I haven't understood is the big appeal of: 'I would rather have it now for less profit' over: "I can wait longer for more profit'

        Dropshipping is great for convenience sake, but as business owners, aren't we all looking for cutting costs/increasing profits?

        It's all about delayed gratification= greater rewards.

        If I can wait an extra week or 2 for an extra 50% in profit margin on my items, why would that not appeal to people?

        It equals more profit in the long run?

        I'm actually asking for insight. I'm not knocking tactics. I don't buy the whole "It costs less to do it" because researching the items market worth and sell-ability before selling the item is completely feasible, and you KNOW the profit before selling--- Or the whole "I don't want to go to the post office -- story"

        Post man comes to my house every day. I never go there.

        Delayed gratification has always yielded higher profits.

        (Which is the same reason I never buy 'rushed delivery' on anything.... never saw the point. I can wait 2 more days to save 30 bucks.....)
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    • Profile picture of the author Cnklin
      Originally Posted by Hampton44 View Post

      When is the Chinese New Year and do most of the drop shippers close? I need to find this out. My orders take 6-10 days via China DHL. I can go for a much cheaper option that is about half that takes 3 weeks--and I do that for freebie items etc.
      Now the Spring Festival is coming.Many China suppliers will have a almost 7 days holiday.No one sends the products and the DHL will also have a holiday.You should think twice if you want to buy during this time as your product will delay.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sam England
        I think that an open mind and making a market work for you is very important...know who your customers are and where they live...

        I personally only sell and direct ship from manufactures in the US...I found it works better for me because of the niches that I am in and it wouldn't work for me to ship or sell outside of the US...like I said it depends on the niche and products...

        Have a great day everyone...

        Cheers,
        Sam
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        • Profile picture of the author todawg_not
          Originally Posted by Sam England View Post

          I think that an open mind and making a market work for you is very important...know who your customers are and where they live...

          I personally only sell and direct ship from manufactures in the US...I found it works better for me because of the niches that I am in and it wouldn't work for me to ship or sell outside of the US...like I said it depends on the niche and products...

          Have a great day everyone...

          Cheers,
          Sam
          Explore China Sam, You leaving a lot of money on the table trust me on this.

          My first experience in China blew my mind and I quickly realized why they are
          the manufacturing Juggernaut they are today. If you get a chance to go over
          there do it. Your mind will spin because you'll see things in China for $5-$10
          that are selling in Wal-Mart for $200-$300 then you understand why all the
          big companies in the world source and buy from China.

          There is no reason why you can not do the same as them just in your own local
          market and your own product.

          In a nut shell China is where the big profits are made.

          When you import and CONTROL the goods you CONTROL the price.

          You already know the market price for the item from your research right.

          So you know if you bought a freestyle bike for $39 ( I imported these and sold
          thousands) and the market price was $299 at the very cheapest price, then you
          know that you can undercut everyone @ 199 in your market and still make a killing,
          and sell these by the container like I did. (You can fit a lot of freestyle bikes in a container)

          So you can screw your competitors and drop your price until they either disappear
          or move onto another product that your not selling.

          because guess what.... they're buying from a middle man

          You want to be the last man standing not the one going broke.

          It's just business, nothing personal.

          When you buy from middle men your always buying at inflated prices.

          Good Luck

          Nigel
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          • Profile picture of the author Aussie_Al
            I know what Sam means

            In one of my niches, I use a Chinese supplier - used them for over 4 years now and (touch wood) 98% of all the head aches are now gone, but in the past they would change prices on items without telling me, (then change them back again a week later) change catalog numbers on items, without telling me - ship some items immediately and ship others 10 days later (driving customers mad who have the 'I want it now" mentality)

            While the Chinese are now the world's manufacturers some of their business skills are still being learned.

            I cannot ignore the great price deals they give me but I tell ya some years I was nearly driven mad but (some) of their in-explicable business practices and having a US based drop shipper who gets how US customers expect their orders to go , etc is a god send. Sometimes the head aches were just not worth the extra savings
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          • Profile picture of the author Importexport
            Originally Posted by todawg_not View Post

            Explore China Sam, You leaving a lot of money on the table trust me on this.

            My first experience in China blew my mind and I quickly realized why they are
            the manufacturing Juggernaut they are today. If you get a chance to go over
            there do it. Your mind will spin because you'll see things in China for $5-$10
            that are selling in Wal-Mart for $200-$300 then you understand why all the
            big companies in the world source and buy from China.

            There is no reason why you can not do the same as them just in your own local
            market and your own product.

            In a nut shell China is where the big profits are made.

            When you import and CONTROL the goods you CONTROL the price.

            You already know the market price for the item from your research right.

            So you know if you bought a freestyle bike for $39 ( I imported these and sold
            thousands) and the market price was $299 at the very cheapest price, then you
            know that you can undercut everyone @ 199 in your market and still make a killing,
            and sell these by the container like I did. (You can fit a lot of freestyle bikes in a container)

            So you can screw your competitors and drop your price until they either disappear
            or move onto another product that your not selling.

            because guess what.... they're buying from a middle man

            You want to be the last man standing not the one going broke.

            It's just business, nothing personal.

            When you buy from middle men your always buying at inflated prices.

            Good Luck

            Nigel
            At last, someone who has woken up to the huge advantages of direct importing v dropshipping.

            First let me say you do not have to buy container loads. In the importing business I ran for 22 years, selling B2B in 4 countries via franchisees, the shipments were often less than $500 value, and almost daily my franchisees received parcels costing less than $100.

            There were plenty of much bigger orders, but the point is you do not have to buy big to get factory prices if you know how to do it. (I explain how in my book.)

            Dropshipping suppliers have done a great job convincing people that importing is extremely complex, but in reality it is ridiculously easy provided you don't try to learn all the rules and regulations yourself.

            On the Internet I have seen for sale too many "How To Import" programs that help maintain the fiction that importing is complex, because those books, video courses etc., are themselves complex.

            Do yourselves a favor and try importing a small amount of a product direct from a reliable factory and start laughing all the way to the bank, but as I point out on my website, there are traps for the unwary.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lehi
      Originally Posted by Hampton44 View Post

      When is the Chinese New Year and do most of the drop shippers close? I need to find this out. My orders take 6-10 days via China DHL. I can go for a much cheaper option that is about half that takes 3 weeks--and I do that for freebie items etc.
      The Lunar Chinese New Year start on Feb 10, howver most people in China closes down their business one week before for their staff to travel back to their home town. Official holidays is only 2 days but since this year it fall on a Sunday, the official holidays end on a Wednesday 12 Feb. It is common for folks in China to take leave and be home for the whole one week. Do not expect much commercial activities until the 18th Feb. However company with International operations would most likely have staff on standby according to official calenders. DHL/Fedex/UPS would most likely keep their operation going from Wednesday 13th onwards. We uses DHL ourselves and find them very reliaable and efficient.
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  • Profile picture of the author pinacolada
    This is very true
    Every time I order from China I go through Fedex and it's here in California by 10 am 2 business days later.
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  • Profile picture of the author pavv
    @auctiondebteliminator

    Not exactly sure what point you are making. Are you saying you don't understand why people drop ship if it costs more money? Or, you don't understand why people pay extra for faster shipping?
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  • Profile picture of the author anton433
    Customs and VAT can be a problem in some countries. For example Finland just lowered the treshold this year and now you have to pay customs duty for all imported goods from outside the EU that have a value of over 20 euros. If you are using dropshipping your customers have to handle the customs and VAT. I think many people are not very happy about that. Of course not every parcel gets caught.
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  • Profile picture of the author createvalueshare
    very nice information. All my drop shippers are in USA. I am Chinese, but I do not have too much confidence in quality from suppliers from China. Would you please let us know which ones (drop shippers) you are currently dealing with. very much appreciate!
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  • Profile picture of the author molsted
    Interesting thread. I've been looking for a reliable Chineese dropshipping company (Various types of products) but it is hard knowing which ones are trustworthy and especailly what to do with returns etc.

    Any ideas on where to find a good and reliable drop shipper or list of drop shippers?

    And what do you do with possible returns?
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  • Profile picture of the author johnzhang
    you can use the air mail less than 2 kg see the General sent Airmail Condition
    Air Mail - China Airmail - Shipping From China Via Air Mail!
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