What sort of hosting is required for an ecommerce store with 100 000 products?

11 years ago

1 product or 1000000 really won't matter on who your host is, disk space is no where near the hog it used to be, a majority of hosts offer unlimited* disk space, so that really isn't a concern. What the real concern is is how much traffic you are expecting to recieve, that is the real determining factor.

That being said, I cannot fathom a reason why any store would have 100,000 products, I'm willing to be walmart.com doesn't even list that many.

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aakon7 11 years ago

Originally Posted by nathan1

That being said, I cannot fathom a reason why any store would have 100,000 products, I'm willing to be walmart.com doesn't even list that many.

Yes, Walmart has millions of products on their site. I have run many ecommerce companies with over 250,000 products - this is not uncommon.

As for the hosting environment go with rackspace cloud server. It will continue to expand as you need it to and the starting price is cheap. You only pay for what you use, you really can't beat that.
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User-Name

11 years ago

It is a very large data base for a large diamond seller
On top of that the surfer needs to be able to build their own ring
Think 10 diamond shapes 100 000+ diamonds 10 sort characteristics
I think it might need a dedciated server or at the least a shared server?
I have had numerous websites over the years with quite large traffic the main concen is the load that a database like that would cause (I do not know this at all)
Thanks for Your response greatly apreciated

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User-Name

11 years ago

Thanks aakon7
I hope they have managed solutions with both secure environments and regular back ups
I will look now
Andrew

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dburk

11 years ago

Hi Andrew,

I wouldn't try to build a store with 100,000 products on Woocommerce without first looking into a couple things. It might be possible, but I think that platform may not be be up to the task of what is required for a store of that size.

Woocommerce is fine for smaller stores when you are first starting out, and it might workout for a larger store, including the size you are planning, however I would contact support at Woothemes before attempting, to see if there are any practical limitations, or special requirements.

Also, from my experience there are certainly limitations with any shared hosting that are likely to be exceeded with a store of that size. Don't be fooled by claims of unlimited bandwidth, or unlimited storage space. Hosting companies often offer packages with no defined limitations on those features, however they always have limitations on CPU resources and memory allocation. A store of the size you are planning will definitely hit those limitations on shared hosting, unless you are on a very high end package.

I recommend that you contact support at your host and tell them the platform and the size of your planned store. They will let you know if your package can handle it or not. In many cases they will tell you to not even dare try that on their shared hosting servers.

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OnlineStoreHelp

11 years ago

Originally Posted by dburk

Hi Andrew,

I wouldn't try to build a store with 100,000 products on Woocommerce without first looking into a couple things. It might be possible, but I think that platform may not be be up to the task of what is required for a store of that size.

Woocommerce is fine for smaller stores when you are first starting out, and it might workout for a larger store, including the size you are planning, however I would contact support at Woothemes before attempting, to see if there are any practical limitations, or special requirements.

Also, from my experience there are certainly limitations with any shared hosting that are likely to be exceeded with a store of that size. Don't be fooled by claims of unlimited bandwidth, or unlimited storage space. Hosting companies often offer packages with no defined limitations on those features, however they always have limitations on CPU resources and memory allocation. A store of the size you are planning will definitely hit those limitations on shared hosting, unless you are on a very high end package.

I recommend that you contact support at your host and tell them the platform and the size of your planned store. They will let you know if your package can handle it or not. In many cases they will tell you to not even dare try that on their shared hosting servers.

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I have to agree here. While I love wordpress and its a great platform, it is not the proper platform for your customer at this time. Many of us are telling you this now as it sounds like you found a great client and we don't want you to mess it up.

If you are going to build an ecommerce site for them, then you need to get a dedicated shopping cart system. If you are doing 100,000 then I would look at Open cart or even Magento. This is one of the few times I would suggest Magento but it is the type of site that Magento was designed around. You can then integrate functionality into the cart.

That being said, if you go with Magento, or even OpenCart, I would suggest a pretty robust VPS server at a minimum and if you can go dedicated even better. I have one client that runs 6 ecommerce stores that are all virtualized on to two dedicated servers and he probably has about 5 - 10k products on each account.

If you are wondering why we are saying dont go Wordpress, this is a dedicated shopping site. Your customer needs to easily add products, handle shipping, customer management, returns, coupons and discounts and everything that goes into an ecommerce store of this caliber.

If they are this large they will be concerned with PCI-DSS compliance and a store of this size and volume, you are going to put them at risk. Their merchant account provider most likely won't want to see you using a non-pci compliant platform. You also need to consider a pretty robust SSL certificate and make sure your server has dedicated antivirus and daily scanning. If you need more information, please see here: https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/

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dburk

11 years ago

Originally Posted by wwhitley

I would offer you to look at Whitley Hosting and see that they offer you a business plan that you get

Unlimited Disk Space
Unlimited Traffic
Multi-lingual Control Panel
5 Domains Hosted
500 Email Accounts
For $3.75 a month

Hi wwhitley,

That unlimited space and bandwidth all sounds good on paper, right up to the point that you try to actually use it.

How about unlimited CPU allocation, and unlimited RAM? Without adequate RAM and CPU all that unlimited storage and bandwidth is not going to keep a store that size afloat. Infact, I would speculate that the first less-than polite bot that tries to crawl the website will bring the server crashing to it's knees.

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User-Name

11 years ago

Thanks Don
Years ago I had websites with combined traffic off over 100k vists a day
Loading images and pages presents no great strain on a server.
Loading a large data base is quite a different story
I was expecting a webhost to enter into some form of communication like wwhitley
sure hosts a large diamond website for $3.75/month

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Amod Oke

11 years ago

Highly recommended (I am using both of them for a while now)

1) The Prime Host (managed VPS)

2) Host Dime (managed VPS)

Also remember that is does not matter whether you have 1000, 10000 or 100,000 products in your database as long as the site is coded correctly and optimized for resources.

Start with a basic VPS plan so you have control compared to a shared host, and then increase/decrease your plan as per the visitors and resources consumed.

By the way, prime host has free daily backups!

Regards,
Amod

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theprimehost

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Amod Oke

Highly recommended (I am using both of them for a while now)

1) The Prime Host (managed VPS)

2) Host Dime (managed VPS)

Also remember that is does not matter whether you have 1000, 10000 or 100,000 products in your database as long as the site is coded correctly and optimized for resources.

Start with a basic VPS plan so you have control compared to a shared host, and then increase/decrease your plan as per the visitors and resources consumed.

By the way, prime host has free daily backups!

Regards,
Amod

Thanks for the recommendation, Amod!

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Amod Oke

11 years ago

Thumbs up for open cart! Highly customizable and very powerful.

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